21:00:26 <sesivany> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2014-01-08
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21:00:30 <sesivany> #meetingname emea ambassadors
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21:00:35 <sesivany> #topic Roll Call
21:00:43 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
21:00:45 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
21:00:48 <mailga> .fas mailga
21:00:49 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <mailga@fedoraonline.it>
21:00:50 <sidkizz> .fas sidki
21:00:52 <zodbot> sidkizz: sidki 'Sidki KBOUBI' <kboubi.sidki@gmail.com>
21:01:03 <pandaconstantin> .fas pandaconstantin
21:01:03 <zodbot> pandaconstantin: pandaconstantin 'Drabo Constantin' <panda.constantin@gmail.com>
21:01:25 <13WABOVRG> .fas churchyard
21:01:26 <zodbot> 13WABOVRG: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' <mhroncok@redhat.com>
21:01:36 <mhroncok> .fas churchyard
21:01:39 <zodbot> mhroncok: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' <mhroncok@redhat.com>
21:01:48 <dglarod> .fas dimitrisglaros
21:01:51 <zodbot> dglarod: dimitrisglaros 'Dimitris Glaros' <dimitrisglaros@gmail.com>
21:02:18 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
21:02:19 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
21:02:37 <sesivany> ok, let's wait a few more minutes.
21:03:35 <kmf> .fas kmf
21:03:37 <zodbot> kmf: kmfcandu 'Kyle Fletcher' <kyle.fletcher@candu.com> - kmf 'Karl Fischer' <kmf@fischer.org.za>
21:03:53 <robyduck> .fas robyduck
21:03:54 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
21:04:56 <sesivany> ok, let's start with announcements...
21:05:02 <sesivany> #topic Announcements
21:05:11 <sesivany> anyone any announcement?
21:05:35 <tonydyer> .fas tonydyer
21:05:36 <zodbot> tonydyer: tonydyer 'Tony Dyer' <mrtonydyer@gmail.com>
21:05:47 <sesivany> I've got one.
21:06:13 <robyduck> only one? I have the other :P
21:06:19 <sesivany> #info Fedora 20 media has arrived from the vendor. If you want some, file a ticket.
21:06:24 <sesivany> #link https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152106748730480&set=a.10151626431320480.1073741827.8064650479&type=1&theater
21:06:36 <sesivany> 6096 of them :)
21:06:50 <sidkizz> Great :D
21:07:02 <mhroncok> sesivany: why that cool number?
21:07:32 <sesivany> mhroncok: I don't know. They produced a bit more for the price of 6000.
21:07:33 <pandaconstantin> That sounds great
21:07:56 <sesivany> robyduck: what was your announcement?
21:08:03 <robyduck> Fedora 21 election season has begun
21:08:20 <sesivany> robyduck: good point
21:08:34 <robyduck> it's already open end ends at 23:59 of 13th
21:09:16 <sesivany> #info Fedora 21 elections will start soon. cwickert will be the election wrangler for FAmSCo elections. The nomination phase should be from Jan 8-13th.
21:10:02 <sesivany> so if you'd like to run for FAmSCo or know someone who'd be a good candidate, make a nomination.
21:10:08 <mhroncok> is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections pretty outdated?
21:10:25 <sesivany> EMEA currently has 3 out of 7 members in FAmSCo.
21:11:03 <sesivany> mhroncok: yes, it is. You should speak to jreznik about it.
21:11:28 <mhroncok> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_nominations
21:11:48 <sesivany> robyduck: maybe we can also announce the badges for f20 release event owners, what do you think?
21:11:59 <robyduck> sure
21:12:17 <robyduck> will you do the info?
21:12:27 <sesivany> robyduck: sure
21:12:45 <mhroncok> ?
21:13:13 <sesivany> #info You can get a special Fedora badge for organizing a F20 release event. You just need to register it and then write a report.
21:13:18 <sesivany> mhroncok: shoot
21:14:22 <mhroncok> how it works with famsco election? there are 3 seets available, but there is no rule, form whar region the ambasadors should be?
21:14:49 <sesivany> mhroncok: candidate can be from any region.
21:14:49 <mhroncok> so if we are agile enough, we can push more and more emea people there?
21:15:12 <sesivany> so in the extreme situation, there could be 7 people from one region.
21:15:16 <robyduck> mhroncok: teoretically yes, but I think this would not be a good thing
21:15:19 <mhroncok> eventually overwhelm it?
21:15:32 <sesivany> but that wouldn't be very heathly.
21:15:59 <gnokii> thats an discussion we already had on flock
21:16:00 <mhroncok> yes, I know it wouldn't, I was just curious
21:16:16 <robyduck> sesivany: Release Party owners also will get the 10 years anniversary tshirt!
21:16:26 <sesivany> I'd love to see some candidates from NA because NA is not currently represented by anyone in FAmSCo.
21:17:17 <sesivany> robyduck: I didn't know that. We've sent all packages without t-shirts, will have to send them separately then.
21:17:31 * gnokii loves to see active members there not just from regions
21:17:59 <robyduck> sesivany: I talked about this with giallu, but we need to have the reports, so we can'r send it before IMHO
21:18:10 <sesivany> #info F20 release event owners also get 10 years anniversary t-shirts!
21:18:29 <sesivany> ok, if there is no other announcement, let's move on to requests.
21:18:57 <robyduck> but yes, would be nice to reward the RP owners not sending 2 packages but giving them out by hand or at Flock or...
21:19:21 <sesivany> #topic Requests
21:19:35 * sesivany is looking at the track
21:20:37 <sesivany> first of all, I'd like to say that I'm trying to satisfy all swag requests as soon as possible.
21:20:48 <pandaconstantin> oki
21:21:15 <sesivany> some people complained that they had to wait for several weeks, but it was just because F20 media weren't available until Monday.
21:21:57 <sesivany> we've shipped all packaged today, the only one yet to be processed is the French one which was filed yesterday.
21:22:20 <pandaconstantin> We will appreciate to have tracking number
21:22:54 <sidkizz> +1 pandaconstantin
21:22:54 <pandaconstantin> Sometime the packages stay in the post during several days
21:22:56 <sesivany> pandaconstantin: I told my assistant to add tracking numbers to the ticket as soon as she gets them.
21:23:20 <sesivany> I'll remind her.
21:23:34 <pandaconstantin> Fantastic
21:23:44 <sesivany> now we've got several FOSDEM sponsorship tickets... one by one.
21:24:07 <pandaconstantin> I did not get still yet the  stickers you send to me lastly
21:24:53 <sesivany> #info FOSDEM travel sponsorship - pandaconstantin - #329
21:25:03 <sesivany> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/329
21:25:04 <pandaconstantin> Oki
21:25:36 <sesivany> just for your information, I got additional funding for fosdem, so we should be able to satisfy all requests.
21:25:52 <pandaconstantin> great new
21:26:32 <sesivany> from me it's +1 because pandaconstantin hasn't been accepted for several events before that, so I think it'd be nice to sponsor him for FOSDEM.
21:26:43 <mhroncok> +1
21:26:46 <gnokii> +1
21:26:52 <sesivany> even if it's a larger chunk of money
21:27:04 <pandaconstantin> Thanks for all
21:27:11 <kmf> +1
21:27:17 <mailga> +1
21:27:17 <dglarod> +1
21:27:29 <sesivany> great, we reached the quorum.
21:27:36 <tonydyer> +1
21:27:45 <sidkizz> +1
21:27:47 <sesivany> #info the ticket #329 has been accepted.
21:28:29 <thunderbirdtr> .fas thunderbirdtr
21:28:30 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com>
21:28:51 <sesivany> #info FOSDEM travel sponsorship request - dimitriglaros
21:29:02 <sesivany> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/331
21:30:10 <sesivany> the same dimitri has been an active ambassador for a long time, I think he deserves it. And he helped us at the booth a lot last year.
21:30:21 <sesivany> +1
21:30:23 <robyduck> +1
21:30:25 <mhroncok> +1
21:30:29 <mailga> +1
21:30:30 <gnokii> +1 and !
21:30:33 <pandaconstantin> +1
21:30:41 <kmf> +1
21:30:48 <thunderbirdtr> +1
21:31:21 <sesivany> #info the ticket #331 has been accepted.
21:31:28 <sesivany> gnokii: your turn
21:31:32 <dglarod> Tnk you very much
21:31:39 <dglarod> ;)
21:32:12 <gnokii> as we speak only about fosdem tickets just to make sure that they are doing booth service, plz take a look to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2014 before u simple give a +1
21:32:13 <gnokii> eof
21:33:26 <sesivany> gnokii: I checked before and will make sure they will do the service.
21:33:31 <gnokii> ok
21:33:32 <sesivany> but it's a good point
21:34:03 <sesivany> just for the reminder: everyone who gets sponsored for FOSDEM will have to do a booth service.
21:34:13 <pandaconstantin> Yeah
21:34:55 <sesivany> pandaconstantin: I think #333 is pretty much included in your original ticket.
21:35:09 <sesivany> I'd like to book accommodation for all of us if you don't mind.
21:35:22 <sesivany> this way, we can avoid reimbursement hassle.
21:35:49 <sesivany> one more fosdem ticket
21:36:12 <sesivany> #info FOSDEM travel sponsorship - mailga
21:36:21 <thunderbirdtr> (!) when FOSDEM requests done..
21:36:26 <mhroncok> ?
21:36:27 <sesivany> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/337
21:36:41 <sesivany> guys, wait, after this ticket.
21:37:04 <mailga> sesivany, please erase hotel if you book accomodaion. The amount will be 100 euro.
21:37:17 <sesivany> originally mailga gave his place to others because we didn't have much money at first.
21:37:45 <sesivany> but I asked for extra fundig mainly for him because I think he deserves it for the hard work with F19 and F20 t-shirts.
21:38:14 <sesivany> from me, it's big +1
21:38:20 <robyduck> +1
21:38:21 <kmf> +1
21:38:25 <gnokii> +1
21:38:26 <thunderbirdtr> +1
21:38:35 <mhroncok> +1
21:38:41 <dglarod> +1
21:38:45 <mailga> sesivany, the hard work was by contributors
21:38:50 <mailga> thx
21:38:51 <tonydyer> +1
21:39:03 <gnokii> so mailga where is my shirt :D
21:39:12 <sesivany> #info ticket #337 has been approved
21:39:24 <mailga> gnokii, is at home my home! :-)
21:40:17 <sesivany> gnokii: you can pick it up at devconf I think
21:40:24 <gnokii> ok
21:40:53 <sesivany> I think that's for the requests.
21:40:58 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr: your turn
21:41:08 <thunderbirdtr> sesivany,  I have one 2013 past ticket and I want to ask for status because I sent messages and write a mail but still nothing happened so I wonder ?
21:41:29 <thunderbirdtr> ticket #314
21:41:30 <thunderbirdtr> eof
21:41:41 <mhroncok> https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/314
21:41:42 <sesivany> let me take a look
21:42:07 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr: you're waiting for reimbursement?
21:42:13 <thunderbirdtr> yes.
21:42:45 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr: you have to nag jsimon. He's the only one who can make reimbursements.
21:43:08 <thunderbirdtr> sesivany, okey I will send a another mail .. then thanks.
21:43:51 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr: if it doesn't work, try one of the German ambassadors, they have his number and can call him.
21:44:07 <thunderbirdtr> sesivany, sure..
21:44:22 <sesivany> mhroncok: your turn
21:44:35 <mhroncok> "sesivany: I'd like to book accommodation for all of us if you don't mind"
21:45:13 <mhroncok> so I should find myself a ho(s)tel and just ask you to book it, if my ticket is accepted?
21:45:20 <mhroncok> *approved
21:45:34 <sesivany> mhroncok: I can book it for you.
21:46:04 <mhroncok> sesivany: ok, will talk to you about it later
21:46:09 <sesivany> first it's better to have all ambassadors in one hotel, second we would avoid reimbursement.
21:46:33 <sesivany> anything else to requests?
21:46:57 <thunderbirdtr> sesivany, !
21:47:04 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr: shoot
21:47:31 <dglarod> !
21:47:46 <thunderbirdtr> I want to come "devconf" event but I will get support from University they asking invite letter even I will be attendee , so is it possible to get it. ? by you
21:48:20 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr: sure, send me an email and I'll get you an invitation letter.
21:48:27 <thunderbirdtr> sesivany, thanks you
21:48:36 <sesivany> thunderbirdtr: no problem
21:48:46 <sesivany> dglarod: your turn
21:48:54 <dglarod> Some people all ready make a accoumodation
21:49:09 <dglarod> With friends i thikn is a litle problem
21:49:26 <sesivany> dglarod: in this case, no problem if you stay somewhere else.
21:49:44 <dglarod> To be all ambasaador together and to be with our friends
21:49:47 <sesivany> dglarod: I'm trying to make it easier for those who haven't booked their accommodation yet.
21:49:57 <dglarod> Ok...
21:50:11 <dglarod> I can cancel my accomodation
21:50:19 <dglarod> If we go all together
21:50:31 <dglarod> And my friend close to same hotel
21:50:33 <dglarod> Eof
21:50:33 <tonydyer> got to go bye. see you next time
21:51:13 <sesivany> dglarod: whatever flows your boat. If you already book it and you're ok with waiting for reimbursement, just keep it the way it is now.
21:52:01 <biker> is/was there meeting today?
21:52:05 <biker> EMEA *
21:52:15 <thunderbirdtr> biker, yes
21:52:32 <mhroncok> biker: is
21:52:33 <sesivany> biker: it's going on right now.
21:52:45 <biker> oh dammit,., good i arrived,., i thought it was next week
21:52:46 <biker> thanks (:
21:53:12 <sesivany> biker: no, we skipped last week because everyone was still hungover :)
21:53:33 <biker> xD
21:53:56 <sesivany> #topic Ambassador's schedule
21:54:05 <sesivany> not much to say here.
21:54:20 <sesivany> I don't think there is any final schedule for Fedora 21, right?
21:54:32 <robyduck> no, there isn't
21:54:33 <gnokii> see jrezniks blogpost from today
21:54:39 <mhroncok> link?
21:54:46 <sesivany> but from what I heard F21 will be released in August.
21:54:54 <sesivany> quite late
21:55:00 <gnokii> lets talk about that on open floor already wanted to do that
21:55:07 <sesivany> because of the transition to Fedora.Next
21:55:22 <sesivany> ok, let's move to events then.
21:55:34 <sesivany> #topic Events
21:56:00 <mhroncok> !
21:56:02 <sesivany> so the next big and actually the biggest FLOSS event in Europe is FOSDEM.
21:56:15 <sesivany> mhroncok: is it related to fosdem?
21:56:20 <mhroncok> nope, will wait
21:56:28 <sesivany> ok, let's finish fosdem.
21:56:47 <sesivany> we've gone through the requests, but I'd like to discuss ideas for the booth.
21:56:56 <sesivany> the booth is confirmed btw.
21:57:20 <sesivany> #info The booth for Fedora at FOSDEM is confirmed by the organizers.
21:57:36 <sesivany> our booth was not very good last year, let's face it.
21:57:49 <sesivany> compared to openSUSE's one for example.
21:58:09 <sesivany> we should look for ways to improve it.
21:58:15 <sesivany> any ideas?
21:58:25 <biker> the pidora photo booth?
21:58:56 <mailga> ?
21:58:58 <sesivany> biker: that would be nice, but we would need Raspberry and a camera :)
21:59:05 <thunderbirdtr> sesivany, I have full set
21:59:12 <biker> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_photobooth
22:00:22 <sesivany> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_photobooth
22:00:28 <mhroncok> a 3D printer, huh?
22:00:37 <gnokii> sesivany: u need a camera who can do tethering, not just a camera
22:00:48 <thunderbirdtr> gnokii, uhm pi-camera ?
22:00:53 <thunderbirdtr> mhroncok, +1000 :)
22:01:04 <sesivany> mhroncok: well, it wouldn't be so impossible to bring it on the bus.
22:01:11 <biker> a 3d printer would be awesome (:
22:01:19 <mhroncok> actually, Felix is coming by car
22:01:24 <mhroncok> so we can have more of them :D
22:01:33 <sesivany> mhroncok: than the 3d printer it is :)
22:01:46 <sesivany> mhroncok: can you talk to Felix about it?
22:01:57 <mhroncok> already talking to him
22:02:07 <biker> if you want to bring something big like the 3d printer or something else,., you can ship to me and ill take it on the train
22:02:08 <sesivany> mhroncok: cool
22:02:10 <biker> (:
22:02:35 <dglarod> !
22:02:50 <sesivany> biker: Felix is coming by car and me and Miro are going by bus that goes from our office to our hotel. So no problem with that.
22:02:57 <sesivany> dglarod: shoot
22:03:21 <dglarod> We have in Greece a boton machine....
22:03:31 <dglarod> I can take it with me
22:03:39 <gnokii> !
22:03:50 <sesivany> dglarod: to make adhoc buttons? That would be cool :)
22:04:08 <sesivany> gnokii: yes?
22:04:17 <dglarod> But i don't know if we have supplace to mae bottons
22:04:43 <dglarod> Eof
22:04:57 <dglarod> I can look about this tommorow
22:05:06 <gnokii> sesivany: would it be possible to equipe all booth ambassadors with 10 years shirt? Then 3D print the 10 years logo and of course I will do some button designs with 10 years
22:05:07 <sesivany> dglarod: please do so
22:05:08 <dglarod> Now eof
22:05:24 <km> edit
22:05:35 <sesivany> gnokii: that's actually a good idea.
22:05:48 <sesivany> gnokii: it could have a theme - 10 years of Fedora
22:05:52 <mhroncok> Felix is bringing the printer
22:05:58 <sesivany> we can do that
22:06:05 <mhroncok> do we have a poster, rollup and such thins with that theme?
22:06:07 <gnokii> that will be definitely visible as everyone is used to our ambassador shirts and now we would look different
22:06:11 <sesivany> I'll take care of the t-shirts.
22:06:19 <gnokii> mhroncok: can be done
22:06:27 <kmf> sorry for all the fails :)
22:06:47 <biker> are banners and stands covered?
22:07:02 <gnokii> biker how far do u live from Brussel?
22:07:22 <sesivany> biker: I'm bringing a rollup banner and tablecloth.
22:07:29 <sesivany> but if we have a special banner...
22:07:59 <gnokii> sesivany: u would have only to print the thing, not buy whole rollup
22:08:29 <biker> gnokii: i live in eindhoven (netherlands), is like 2-3 hours by train
22:08:38 <gnokii> thats to far
22:09:06 <sesivany> gnokii: do you want to make a special banner?
22:09:07 <biker> sesivany: I have two banners that biertie gave me, one only says fedora, and the other one is about the 4 foundations
22:09:13 <mhroncok> gnokii: if there is something to produce and bring, feel free to ask me or sesivany
22:09:14 <gnokii> sesivany: why not
22:09:32 <mailga> +1 gnokii
22:10:02 <sesivany> gnokii: ok, I can get funding for that and produce it.
22:10:24 <gnokii> sesivany: lets find that out, I think its worth it
22:10:59 <sesivany> biker: bring either of them. It's actually better to have two. We'll bring another. Either our ones or the new special by gnokii :)
22:11:15 <biker> sesivany: oki doki (:
22:12:08 <sesivany> mhroncok: design some cool "10 years" thing to print ;)
22:12:24 <mhroncok> is there a svg somewhere available?
22:12:28 <gnokii> mhroncok: u can have the svg
22:12:33 <mhroncok> :)
22:12:44 <sesivany> ok guys, we've got 18 minutes left, then it's LATAM's turn.
22:12:59 <sesivany> we're done with fosdem now.
22:13:10 <sesivany> mhroncok: what did you want to talk about?
22:13:16 <pandaconstantin> Is it possible  to make feel free Fedora banner ? I'm thinking how to produce here  an amazing banner and bring it
22:14:05 <mhroncok> #info possible Flock Prague dates: July 11-14, August 1-4, August 8-11, will be decided soon
22:14:17 <gnokii> pandaconstantin: I dont like banners done by others, have seen an hungarian one I was shocked
22:14:28 <biker> august august :P
22:14:31 <pandaconstantin> Oki
22:14:46 <sesivany> gnokii: you mean the design or production itself?
22:14:55 <gnokii> I mean the production
22:15:14 <gnokii> the scaled an png up the banner was blurry totally
22:15:48 <pandaconstantin> :(
22:15:53 <sesivany> jarcher had a great vendor for banners. We had one made for LinuxCon, we paid 40 pounds and it was really good for that price.
22:16:28 <sesivany> he had a good contact at the vendor.
22:16:41 <gnokii> lets move on
22:17:08 <sesivany> I'd like to announce DevConf.cz schedule.
22:17:14 <mhroncok> sesivany: anything about devconf? I believe the schedule is now public
22:17:15 <mhroncok> oh
22:17:39 <sesivany> #info DevConf.cz 2014 schedule has been published: http://devconf.cz/schedule
22:17:55 <sesivany> one whole day is devoted to Fedora
22:18:29 <sesivany> just one week after FOSDEM
22:19:08 <sesivany> any other events?
22:19:33 <biker> sesivany: did approving/failing tickets was already done?
22:19:43 <sesivany> biker: yes
22:20:02 <sesivany> biker: did you have a favourite there? :)
22:20:19 <biker> sesivany: yeah,., mine :p
22:20:29 <sesivany> biker: number?
22:20:30 <biker> ticket #335
22:21:26 <sesivany> biker: we missed this one, but no problem. It's under the limit and I can approve it myself.
22:21:36 <sesivany> #topic Openfloor
22:21:44 <gnokii> !
22:21:49 <biker> sesivany: thanks n_n
22:22:02 <sesivany> gnokii: just speak, it's open floor.
22:22:07 <gnokii> http://borntobeopen.blogspot.cz/2014/01/wheres-fedora-21-schedule.html
22:22:39 <kmf> twohot, and myself are still waiting on feedback from the Idlelo guys regarding sponsorship
22:22:57 <gnokii> thats the blogpost u asked for, we as Ambassadors should think a little bit how fedora.next will afflict our work, it will be with media, release parties and some other things
22:23:57 <sesivany> #info we're still waiting for feedback from Idlelo organizers.
22:24:20 <sesivany> gnokii: sure
22:24:23 <kmf> twohot, mailed them again yesterday :)
22:24:39 <sesivany> I don't like the fact that there is not going to be any codename any more.
22:24:45 <gnokii> +1
22:24:54 <mhroncok> :(
22:25:23 <gnokii> but the board decision says not there will be no name anymore as the way should be changed
22:26:06 <sesivany> gnokii: yes, but the board is pretty much paralized.
22:26:20 <sesivany> they are not able to make any decisions.
22:26:25 <gnokii> for design team that makes it harder, for F20 we had no release name already so it was hard without one to create something
22:26:32 <sesivany> I'm going to bring this up at FAmSCo.
22:27:02 <sesivany> if they're not able to decide for another way to choose codenames they should not terminate the current one.
22:27:31 <gnokii> if I got jreznik right its up to the working groups to set release cycles thats a bad dream for me
22:27:33 <misc> well, the board said "if anyone want to do it, they can propose" https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2013-October/012209.html
22:28:07 <misc> ( at least, that's what i understood ), ie, interested people can fully organise among themself, it would be totally fine for the board
22:29:04 <sesivany> misc: I don't like cancelling something before we have something to replace it. It doesn't change anything if they say we have a chance to propose something.
22:30:29 <sesivany> there are just some things with Fedora that are not going well :-/
22:30:42 <misc> sesivany: I guess we can discuss in lenght during devconf over a beverage :) cause i do not want to distrub the meeting
22:30:42 <mhroncok> gnokii: will you e-mail be to fedora 10 years svg if it is private?
22:30:51 <sesivany> ok, out time is up, anything lese?
22:30:57 <gnokii> mhroncok: yes will to right after meeting
22:31:02 <mhroncok> thanks
22:31:02 <sesivany> misc: sure, looking forward to that ;)
22:31:08 <gnokii> do not to
22:32:08 <sesivany> so if there is nothing else, thank you for coming and don't forget that the next meeting will be in 2 weeks, not next week. Since we skipped last week, you're folloing a new schedule.
22:32:10 <mhroncok> sesivany: next meeting
22:32:18 <mhroncok> again late :)
22:32:34 <sesivany> #info The next meeting will be on Jan 22nd.
22:32:43 <sesivany> meet you in two weeks!
22:32:51 <sesivany> #endmeeting