#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting

Meeting summary

1. Roll call (adamw, 16:00:11)
   
2. Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:11:20)
   1. "adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email" - I sent one - https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-December/119820.html - but didn't cover the thinp bug, whoops (adamw, 16:13:20)
   
   
3. QA/Join page revision (adamw, 16:20:12)
   1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-January/119890.html (adamw, 16:20:41)
   2. roshi and danofsatx came up with a proposal for a revised QA/Join page (adamw, 16:20:54)
   3. roshi will send out a new draft based on list feedback (adamw, 16:21:18)
   4. general agreement to try and avoid mentioning 'bugzappers' and 'proven testers' directly to avoid confusion (adamw, 16:22:56)
   5. seems like everyone's happy with the current approach to the rewrite, thanks for the work roshi and danofsatx (adamw, 16:24:50)
   
   
4. Meeting minutes (adamw, 16:27:14)
   1. currently we keep meeting minutes in a hand-written format at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings (adamw, 16:30:39)
   2. the wiki meeting pages are usually created before the meeting and in theory can be edited to add something to the agenda (adamw, 16:34:03)
   3. AGREED: from 2014 on, we'll drop the manual handling of meeting minutes and do it all via meetbot (adamw, 16:35:41)
   4. side note: kparal has added the meeting schedule to fedocal for 2014 (adamw, 16:36:41)
   5. fedocal link for QA: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/ (adamw, 16:38:08)
   
   
5. open floor (adamw, 16:40:07)
   1. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2445 (cmurf, 16:40:13)
   2. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6868 (cmurf, 16:41:15)
   3. Viking-Ice points out Matthew Miller's mail about plans for 2014, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/193401.html (adamw, 16:43:58)
   4. ACTION: adamw to send a mail to test@ about the ten year t-shirt thing (adamw, 17:00:13)
   5. once again, we all registered concern at the direction of the Fedora.next project and its implications for testing given the apparent broadening of the scope of deliverables without a plan in place for testing (adamw, 17:04:30)

Action items

1. adamw to send a mail to test@ about the ten year t-shirt thing

Action items, by person

1. adamw
   1. adamw to send a mail to test@ about the ten year t-shirt thing

People present (lines said)

1. adamw (123)
2. handsome_pirate (70)
3. cmurf (63)
4. Viking-Ice (55)
5. roshi (50)
6. tflink (40)
7. jokerdino (23)
8. kparal (22)
9. danofsatx (20)
10. brunowolff (17)
11. nirik (14)
12. zodbot (8)
13. pingou (4)
14. satellit (4)
15. jreznik (4)
16. nb (2)
17. mkrizek (1)
18. pwhalen (1)
19. satellit_e (1)
20. pschindl (1)