14:00:50 <randomuser> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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14:00:50 <randomuser> #meetingname Fedora Docs
14:00:50 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
14:00:51 <randomuser> #topic Roll Call
14:00:59 <jjmcd> Good morning
14:01:22 <jjmcd> Cold here in the middle of the mitten this morning
14:01:32 <randomuser> and good afternoon? ciupicri
14:01:43 <ciupicri> good afternoon indeed
14:01:53 <randomuser> warming up here, ~10F already
14:02:33 <jjmcd> seems to be going the other way here
14:04:26 <randomuser> lnovich, ping?
14:04:29 <ciupicri> all I can say is that I miss the spring right now
14:06:13 <randomuser> well, shall we carry on?
14:09:13 <randomuser> ... that wasn't rhetorical, I'm really asking if you guys want to continue the meeting
14:09:25 <ciupicri> #agree
14:09:56 * iWelcome here
14:10:09 <randomuser> worksforme
14:10:21 <randomuser> #topic New Writer Check-In
14:10:23 <randomuser> :)
14:10:41 <randomuser> iWelcome, you've been around for a bit, how are things going for you?
14:10:59 <iWelcome> yes i am :)
14:11:49 <randomuser> iWelcome, what are you working on lately?
14:13:20 <iWelcome> randomuser, doing nothing specifically these days, but love to work if anything is available
14:13:57 <randomuser> iWelcome, there's certainly work available - do you need help finding something specific?
14:14:45 <iWelcome> please let me know what I have to do now
14:15:28 <randomuser> well, do you have an area of interest you'd like to explore?
14:17:13 <randomuser> I've got a small maintenance thing: starting with F20, we have unversioned directories in /usr/share/doc
14:17:41 <randomuser> so we need to check guides for instances of <filename>/usr/share/doc/package-version</filename and correct them
14:17:47 <randomuser> iWelcome, interested?
14:17:57 <randomuser> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Docs_Project_tasks?rd=Docs_Project_tasks
14:18:30 <jjmcd> While not very exciting, it would be a good way to get familiar with Publican and git without too much pain
14:19:24 <randomuser> and you'd finish with all the guides downloaded, ready for more interesting work
14:19:48 * lnovich is back
14:20:26 <iWelcome> randomuser, I can try
14:21:11 <randomuser> iWelcome, you're familiar with how to find the git repos, and clone them?
14:22:34 <randomuser> iWelcome, and how to make a patch using git?
14:23:06 <iWelcome> I know how to clone and make patch
14:23:48 <randomuser> we can help you in #fedora-docs if you have questions
14:23:58 <randomuser> I remembered correctly then, good
14:25:10 <randomuser> ciupicri, you seem to get the hang of our processes quickly, any questions?
14:27:05 <ciupicri> yes. I was just looking at the list of bugs having the NEW status and I've noticed stuff like "Migrate to Bluez 5", "Fedora 20 Boost 1.54 Uplift" etc which I thought were already covered
14:27:22 <randomuser> yeah, I need to do some cleanup on those tracking bugs
14:28:06 <randomuser> I thought I had set it up for them to be closed by an RPM, but it was either a dream or done wrong :/
14:28:45 <ciupicri> do you mean by the RPM's changelog section?
14:29:03 <randomuser> well, by bodhi
14:30:43 <randomuser> #action randomuser to clean up his mess with the release notes bugs
14:32:23 <randomuser> ciupicri, have you found something to work on, and time to do it?
14:33:42 <ciupicri> I see there are some small bugs like typos on which I'd like to give a shot
14:33:58 <randomuser> cool, you know where to look for help if you need it
14:34:05 <ciupicri> e.g. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1021137
14:35:04 <randomuser> that one looks easy enough
14:35:16 <jjmcd> good way to get started
14:36:04 <ciupicri> then I'll take it
14:37:28 <randomuser> #topic Docs Website
14:37:50 <randomuser> So, this is one I think we need to start taking into our own hands
14:39:02 <randomuser> lnovich, i think we last heard that rudi was going to tackle this in december?
14:39:41 <lnovich> tackle the website? - he didn
14:39:54 <lnovich> didn't say anything to  me about it
14:40:05 <lnovich> want me to ping him after the new yr?
14:40:31 <randomuser> no thanks, I think I will write a mail on the list
14:41:40 <randomuser> lnovich, you seem to keep in touch with him, so i thought you might have gossip to share :P
14:42:50 <lnovich> nah - sorry wish i did
14:43:21 <lnovich> no gossip
14:44:05 <randomuser> It might be best at this point if we try to make this more of a group effort
14:44:52 <randomuser> jjmcd, how's your free time looking these days?
14:45:03 <lnovich> what needs to be done?
14:45:15 <jjmcd> randomuser, Not as bad as a few months ago, although my February is already filling up
14:46:04 <iWelcome> randomuser, what to do after cloning the guides?
14:46:15 <jjmcd> I got some nagging things done last week so feeling pretty good right now
14:46:34 <jjmcd> Major problem is that every few days I seem to burn a few hours shoveling sneaux
14:46:51 <randomuser> jjmcd, any chance I could talk you into coming up with an action plan for this?
14:47:02 <jjmcd> For the website?
14:47:07 <randomuser> yes
14:47:34 <jjmcd> I could do that - will need to do some educating myself, tho.  I haven't been following all that closely
14:48:14 <randomuser> there's one infra trac ticket and one releng track ticket to read, i'll see if i can find them
14:48:24 <jjmcd> roger
14:49:02 <randomuser> jjmcd, past that, you're hopefully familiar with how koji works on a general level
14:49:09 <jjmcd> of course
14:49:20 * randomuser winks
14:49:44 <jjmcd> I haven't set up a local koji but mock works fine and is almost as much of a hassle ;-)
14:51:22 <randomuser> awesome
14:51:22 <randomuser> jjmcd, will ping you in #fedora-docs or out of band
14:51:28 <randomuser> #topic Free Play
14:51:57 <jjmcd> roger that - For the time being, I can't idle on IRC as much as I would like.
14:51:57 <randomuser> complaints, grievances, anecdotes ?
14:52:10 <jjmcd> FAD?
14:52:51 <randomuser> availability is looking like february - hopefully mid-to-late, as I won't be able to do it for 4-6 weeks
14:53:06 <lnovich> what is the story w/funding?
14:53:14 <randomuser> I haven't heard that Sparks got a response re:funding
14:54:37 <randomuser> jjmcd, here's one: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3860
14:55:26 <randomuser> and the other: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5214
14:56:08 <ciupicri> I have a question about reviewing. If I change something how can I double check with someone else? Also is there a test website or another way of testing my changes?
14:56:40 <randomuser> ciupicri, you can build the document locally
14:56:58 <jjmcd> randomuser, qsl - got em bookmarked
14:57:19 <randomuser> ciupicri, in *theory* there is a docs-qa group, with their own mailing list, tasked to do that kind of work
14:57:36 <jjmcd> ciupicri, When I'm working on a doc, I tend to do dozens or hundreds of builds, of course, I have unusually fat fingers
14:57:44 * nb is around but doesn't really have anything to say
14:57:48 <ciupicri> which reminds me of an (easy) publican question: how do I set the output directory to something under /tmp ?
14:58:15 <randomuser> in practice, I suggest you hack with confidence and ask for reviews as frequently as you need it
14:58:50 <randomuser> ciupicri, um... symlink $documentroot/tmp to /tmp/$documenttmp ?
14:59:31 <ciupicri> ok, I'll try that. I tried some command line switches, but without any luck.
14:59:53 <randomuser> yeah, i don't know that there's a way to do that
15:00:42 <randomuser> allright, our hour is up
15:00:54 <randomuser> iWelcome, we can help with your question in #fedora-docs
15:00:59 <randomuser> #endmeeting