19:59:46 <suehle> #startmeeting
19:59:46 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Dec 16 19:59:46 2013 UTC.  The chair is suehle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:59:51 <suehle> #meetingname Fedora marketing team
19:59:51 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing_team'
19:59:55 <suehle> #topic roll call
19:59:58 * roshi is here
20:00:02 <roshi> and on time this time
20:00:12 <roshi> almost, as if I remembered this time
20:00:19 <john_terrill> * is here
20:00:29 <mailga> .fas mailga
20:00:30 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <mailga@fedoraonline.it>
20:01:16 <suehle> How's everyone's fine Monday?
20:01:32 <john_terrill> Cold, but good otherwise
20:01:33 <roshi> wonderful, testing a new pour over coffee maker
20:01:38 <roshi> :)
20:01:46 <jzb> howdy
20:02:00 <suehle> #topic Fedora 20 launch!
20:02:23 <suehle> john_terrill, if you didn't see, croberts said he's finishing up the screenshots to close out that ticket.
20:02:40 <john_terrill> okay great - i'll update Engadget once that's wrapped
20:03:05 <jzb> john_terrill: are any press still around this week? :-)
20:03:22 <suehle> jzb, you had some ideas about tomorrow?
20:03:47 <john_terrill> jzb, waaaaay more than i thought
20:03:55 <john_terrill> we should see great coverage tomorrow
20:04:08 <jzb> suehle: well, we need either a good post for the magazine tomorrow, or put the announcement in the magazine tomorrow morning
20:04:12 <jzb> I'd like to see a good post.
20:04:21 <jzb> (e.g., not just reposting the announcement we'll send out)
20:04:30 <jzb> we need all hands on social media tomorrow
20:04:34 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
20:04:35 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <zacharias.mitzelos@gmail.com>
20:04:37 <mitzie> Hey all
20:04:37 <suehle> Ideas about what that post includes?
20:05:17 <jzb> suehle: highlights of the release, a few screenshots, etc. Just more conversational than the announcement.
20:05:47 <jzb> do we have any volunteers?
20:05:50 <mitzie> Agree, more magazine style
20:05:59 <suehle> Do you want to work on that in an etherpad or something with me this afternoon, or hoping for another volunteer? :)
20:06:04 <suehle> As I type that...
20:06:52 <jzb> going once...
20:07:07 <jzb> (Don't everybody step forward all at once, now.)
20:07:13 <mitzie1> Sorry folks
20:07:30 <jzb> suehle: OK, let's kick off an Etherpad link + send to the list.
20:07:31 <suehle> we can work together...
20:07:32 <suehle> #link http://openetherpad.org/p/f20releasepost
20:07:56 <mitzie1> Don't know what someone answered but I can help on the mag post, although I wont have it ready tomorrow
20:08:07 <jzb> #action jzb suehle finish F20 blog / magazine post
20:08:19 <jzb> mitzie1: well, tomorrow's sort of non-negotiable being the release date and all ;-)
20:08:32 <mitzie1> Yeah, definitely
20:09:03 <suehle> anything else related to tomorrow?
20:09:11 <jzb> suehle: just social media
20:09:27 <jzb> please, folks - tweet, give things a boost on Facebook, Reddit, etc.
20:10:02 <jzb> that's really it, just spread the word.
20:10:15 <jzb> and encourage your friends to do the same
20:10:24 <suehle> #topic open floor
20:10:26 <jzb> friends, co-workers, even your enemies if they're easily bribed
20:10:39 <mitzie1> Here in Greece there is a blog (osarena.net) about open source and stuff, will contact them Ifbthere is anything ready otherwise I will post something
20:11:13 <suehle> mitzie1, sounds good
20:12:04 <jzb> since we're on open floor
20:12:18 <jzb> I'd suggest this is our last meeting until 2014
20:12:28 <suehle> I think that sounds reasonable.
20:12:29 <jzb> since next week is day before major holiday, and then new year's
20:12:47 <mitzie1> +1
20:13:19 <jzb> oh, we've sorta fallen off on the "10th anniversary" monthly post idea.
20:13:24 * jzb is glad that we didn't try for weekly.
20:13:50 <jzb> we had a great flurry of activity around the magazine for a while, but it's fallen by the wayside.
20:14:05 <suehle> Perhaps time to try to go back to the beats idea?
20:14:17 <jzb> suehle: perhaps. I'm happy to take the workgroup beat.
20:14:21 <jzb> if that's a beat. :-)
20:14:29 <mitzie1> I would contribute, but I don't have much experience on fedora things :(
20:14:30 <jreznik> ops, I missed the meeting... sorry
20:14:52 <jzb> mitzie1: if you can write and follow a mailing list, we can teach you the rest ;-)
20:14:53 <mitzie1> (on the 10th anniversary I mean)
20:14:57 <jzb> oh
20:15:10 <mitzie1> Great jzb!
20:15:16 <suehle> #action suehle to start a discussion on list about claiming beats.
20:15:18 <jzb> jreznik: I assume you need a textified version of the release announcement.
20:15:41 <mitzie1> Sorry but what is beats?
20:15:49 <jreznik> jzb: rbergeron needs it :) not sure if she already did it or not - I sent her a link to announcement
20:15:53 <mitzie1> Dump question :(
20:15:59 <jreznik> let me check mail
20:16:01 <suehle> mitzie1, basically it means that people volunteer to be responsible for writing about a topic area
20:16:27 <mitzie1> Ahh thanks for clarifying
20:16:28 <jreznik> jzb: for final, it's fpl responsibility to send announcement
20:16:59 <jzb> jreznik: ah, OK
20:17:27 <jzb> jreznik: will check in with rbergeron then :-)
20:17:31 * jzb waves at rbergeron
20:17:56 <jzb> OK, any other topics
20:17:57 <jzb> ?
20:18:01 <mitzie1> Also something short about the mag, I see that the magazine slideshow is fixed on big monitors, and since I don't see much contribution on the new design I would like to call it off (th e new design) and go with the current one
20:18:17 <jzb> mitzie1: maybe raise that on the mailing list?
20:18:19 <mitzie1> For a while. Thought?
20:18:24 <jzb> mitzie1: so that folks who aren't here can weigh in.
20:18:28 <mitzie1> Sure
20:18:39 <jzb> mitzie1: I think we need to dump the slideshow either way, even if we don't overhaul the site.
20:19:05 <mitzie1> I tried that and the mag looks bad without it
20:19:23 <mitzie1> So if we go without it we have to chan gee tje design
20:19:31 <suehle> It would need to be replaced with something. Maybe a static image that changes monthly or so.
20:19:44 <mitzie1> That would be easy
20:19:53 <mitzie1> Even one static image
20:20:06 <mitzie1> Would do
20:20:11 <jzb> suehle: ah. I just think it drives content too far down the page.
20:20:38 <jzb> oh well
20:20:39 <suehle> jzb, could be smaller or something... is somebody actively working on this redesign?
20:20:45 <mailga> ?
20:20:51 <jzb> suehle: not as far as I know.
20:21:24 <mitzie1> It was designed by mizmo and the whole design team, it is not one person
20:21:27 <suehle> I didn't think so. The best thing to do if we really need one is to open a design ticket, but it's going to need specific things.
20:21:33 <suehle> I thought tatica did it?
20:22:02 <jreznik> jzb: so, no reply from robyn yet... if you could text format it and send it to her/cc me/logistic list, thanks
20:22:10 <suehle> At any rate, since the design team's already done it once, they're going to want to know why we want a do-over.
20:22:28 <mitzie1> True suehle
20:22:30 <suehle> I think our efforts are probably better spent filling it with content than worrying too much about the design.
20:23:14 <jzb> suehle: OK
20:23:21 <jzb> jreznik: will do
20:23:29 <mitzie1> But we should choose a static image altogether and I don't jave an idea about it
20:23:34 <jzb> suehle: I keep getting bumped from the etherpad :-(
20:23:50 <suehle> jzb, huh... I have no idea how to troubleshoot that.
20:24:00 <jreznik> jzb: and if you could ping rbergeron later today, it would be great too :) it's getting late here...
20:24:19 <jzb> jreznik: will do
20:24:23 <jreznik> thanks
20:24:27 <mitzie1> Anyway will continue on the list
20:25:07 <jzb> mitzie1: groovy
20:26:03 <suehle> anything else for today?
20:26:09 <jzb> suehle: I want cookies
20:26:17 <jzb> oh, marketing related? No.
20:26:29 <mailga> ?
20:27:14 <mailga> suehle, before said that there are topic areas in the fedmag, are they defined yet?
20:27:15 <suehle> jzb, I have a dining room table full of them after last night's cookie party. :)
20:27:24 <suehle> mailga, you mean for beats?
20:27:32 <mailga> yes
20:27:49 <suehle> I think we'll just use the old FWN list for a start. I'll start that discussion on-list so more people see it.
20:28:37 <suehle> last call...
20:28:44 <mailga> ok, think this is an important step, without this fedmag couldn't have a
20:28:50 <mailga> regular beat.
20:29:21 <mailga> eof
20:29:41 <suehle> #endmeeting