06:03:13 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n
06:03:13 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 27 06:03:13 2013 UTC.  The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:03:20 <smaitra> ok
06:03:40 <pravins> #meetingname i18n
06:03:40 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:03:56 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
06:04:02 <pnemade> hi
06:04:04 <mfabian> Hi!
06:04:06 <smaitra> hi
06:04:09 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-11-27
06:04:12 <smaitra> hi
06:04:15 <anish_> Hi
06:04:18 <mgiri> Hi this is Manoj
06:04:30 <fujiwara_> hi
06:04:56 <pravins> hi pnemade mfabian smaitra anish_ mgiri fujiwara_
06:05:36 <pravins> as you know today tagoh is away so i am going to chair this meeting
06:05:40 <epico> hi
06:05:41 <juhp> hi
06:05:46 <pravins> hi epico juhp
06:05:46 <dueno> hi
06:06:17 <pravins> again thanks to tagoh for making creating agenda process automated. It helps lot to keep all things consistent
06:06:37 <pravins> Lets start for the agenda
06:06:53 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:07:01 <pravins> #info 2013-11-26	Final Change Deadline
06:07:02 <pravins> #info 2013-12-10	Fedora 20 Final Release
06:07:39 <juhp> ah TC3
06:08:15 <skore> hi
06:08:40 <pravins> hi skore
06:09:12 <pravins> good to see no i18n-related final blocker now
06:09:20 <pnemade> nice
06:10:28 <pravins> lets move to next topic
06:10:29 <pravins> #topic Outstanding topics
06:11:09 <pravins> #info #25: Bugs Corner (i18n@lists.fedoraproject.org)
06:11:14 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/25
06:11:57 <pravins> if you want to discuss any i18n related bug please paste link here
06:12:27 <pravins> .bug 1031848
06:12:31 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1031848 xkb-converted layouts do not include multiple mappings where they are commonly expected - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031848
06:12:32 <juhp> mfabian, any more news/updates on the systemd kbd issues btw?
06:12:48 <mfabian> No, I’ll test again with TC3 now.
06:12:49 <juhp> yeah
06:12:54 <pravins> discussed in last meeting is now  in "CLOSED ERRATA" stage
06:12:55 <juhp> okay
06:13:05 * juhp hasn't had time to follow the bugs...
06:13:13 <juhp> ah okay
06:13:34 <mfabian> It looked like systemd-208-6 and kbd-1.15.5-11 fixed the problem that it didn’t work for the keyboard chosen in anaconda during the installation.
06:13:45 <juhp> hm
06:14:02 <mfabian> What will surely not work yet is changing the keyboard later with "localctl set-keymap <some map>"
06:14:59 <juhp> I see
06:15:02 <mfabian> The idea was that this should work as well if vconsole.keymap=<map>  is removed from the kernel command line. I tried to test that idea on TC2, but it didn’t work for me and I became quite confused. So I’ll try again today on TC3.
06:15:25 <pravins> mfabian: can you put bug number in irc.
06:15:37 <pravins> .bug 1028207
06:15:41 <mfabian> .bug 1028207
06:15:43 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1028207 non US keyboard layouts not working at console - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028207
06:15:48 <pravins> thanks mfabian
06:15:50 <zodbot> mfabian: Bug 1028207 non US keyboard layouts not working at console - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028207
06:16:12 <pravins> it is also in close state presently
06:16:24 <mfabian> .bug 1033250
06:16:28 <zodbot> mfabian: Bug 1033250 The keyboard layout for the virtual console cannot be changed using “localectl set-keymap ; dracut -f; reboot;” - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033250
06:17:00 <pravins> mfabian: yes good to test with TC3 and see if any more issues
06:17:49 <mfabian> So 1028207 is probably fixed,1033250 is most likely not fixed and we are not sure whether removing the keyyboard layout from the kernel command line will fix it (although it seems likely that it does, only it didn’t work for me on TC2)
06:17:49 <pravins> if no more bugs to discuss today lets move to next topic
06:19:15 <pravins> .bug 1033250
06:19:19 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1033250 The keyboard layout for the virtual console cannot be changed using “localectl set-keymap ; dracut -f; reboot;” - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033250
06:19:55 <pravins> mfabian: sure, will test with TC3 and discuss more in next meeting.
06:20:08 <pravins> #info #26: proposal: move to using IMEs for ASCII/Latin input (i18n@lists.fedoraproject.org)
06:20:14 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/26
06:20:15 <juhp> okay hope this won't drag into the next release like Schroedinger's Cat
06:20:59 <pravins> yes
06:21:01 <juhp> I am afraid I don't have any more update since previous meetings/discussions here
06:21:10 <mfabian> Schrödinger’s Cat is still alive.
06:21:18 <juhp> I know hence my comment
06:21:32 <juhp> half-alive at least ;o) :)
06:21:33 <mfabian> We should have kept some non-ASCII stuff in the release name.
06:21:55 <pravins> juhp: might be good to send email on fedora-devel? we can get some more view on this
06:21:59 <juhp> I dunno :)  unless we can have some kanji :-P
06:22:29 <juhp> pravins, you're right probably - good idea
06:22:39 <pravins> i was looking for schedule for Fedora 21 change deadline. but did not found any.
06:23:05 <juhp> yeah no 21 schedule yet I guess
06:23:57 <pravins> i am sure on fedora-devel this topic can bring lots of discussion :)
06:24:16 <juhp> yeah ;)
06:25:07 <juhp> okay let me try to keep it moving again
06:25:22 <juhp> definitely need to get some more input/opinions
06:25:38 <juhp> though I am sure I am right ;o) ;)  <kidding/>
06:25:58 <pravins> juhp: i remember we were having this kind of idea from scim-sinhala days :)
06:26:07 <juhp> fujiwarat, probably you didn't have a chance to look over it yet?
06:26:22 <juhp> pravins, yeah long ago
06:26:24 <fujiwarat> juhp: I'm reading your doc now.
06:26:30 <juhp> fujiwarat, okay thanks
06:26:42 <pravins> fujiwarat: nice, feel free to update ticket.
06:26:59 <pravins> ok, lets move on for next topic then
06:27:05 <pravins> #info #28: proposal: Adding new packages component in i18n weekly meeting
06:27:08 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/28
06:27:15 <pravins> ok, i proposed this just before meeting
06:27:30 <pravins> i was looking at review request
06:27:32 <pravins> .bug 1031588
06:27:35 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1031588 Review Request: google-phetsarath-fonts - The font for the Lao language - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031588
06:28:03 <pravins> i think it will be helpful if we can get new packages information also through this meeting
06:28:16 <pravins> tagoh can give more input on same
06:28:45 <juhp> do this mean announcing new packages in review/accepted etc?
06:28:49 <pravins> i think people around can provide good information and help for new i18n packages coming into fedora
06:29:08 <pravins> juhp: yes
06:29:12 <juhp> cool
06:30:02 <pravins> paragn: what do you think?
06:30:44 <pnemade> yeah either keep this topic at last or in open floor to discuss about new packages added in Fedora
06:31:21 <juhp> I think it is good to track
06:31:21 <pravins> pnemade: sure
06:32:16 <pravins> yes
06:33:18 <pravins> feel free to update https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/28 , we can discuss more in next meeting on same
06:33:49 <pravins> last but not least topic
06:33:49 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
06:34:19 <epico> libpinyin 1.0.0 is released. :)
06:34:40 <pravins> thats great epico, congrats :)
06:35:07 <juhp> yay
06:35:20 <pnemade> cool
06:35:54 <pravins> will be helpful to test and give karma @ https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22179/libpinyin-1.0.0-1.fc20
06:36:13 <epico> thanks :)
06:36:19 <pravins> Lets make this 0-day update for F20
06:36:45 <anish_> yesterday i proposed text prediction as service or API as a feature/enhancement in IBus upstream
06:37:05 <pravins> anish_: aha, nice
06:37:52 <anish_> pravins, thanks!
06:38:03 <pravins> This is email http://www.mail-archive.com/ibus-devel@googlegroups.com/msg11872.html
06:40:15 <pravins> anish_: i think definitely having this will be useful specifically for IME's that is bit difficult to add in ibus-typing-booster
06:40:41 <pravins> IME's like ibus-sayura may be good example..
06:43:03 <pravins> i think will be good if we can get more input from ibus-devel
06:43:14 <juhp> yes
06:43:27 <pravins> glad to see fujiwarat is back :)
06:43:35 <pravins> i am sure he can help there
06:43:44 <pravins> so we almost done with meeting
06:44:01 <pravins> if nothing more lets close meeting in couple of minutes
06:44:44 <pravins> ohh, i forgot to mention mgiri  (manoj) name, he is frm FLTG group
06:45:06 <pravins> thanks mgiri for joining meeting
06:45:12 <mgiri> Thanks pravins for introducing me
06:45:15 <juhp> mgiri, :)
06:46:01 <pravins> mgiri: looking forward to discuss more with you from initiatives on Fedora Language Testing Group initiatives and i18n
06:46:27 <mgiri> pravins: Sure
06:46:35 <pravins> thanks all joining for meeting
06:46:37 <pravins> #endmeeting