06:02:54 <tagoh_> #startmeeting i18n
06:02:54 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 12 06:02:54 2013 UTC.  The chair is tagoh_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:02:54 <tagoh_> #meetingname i18n
06:02:54 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:02:55 <tagoh_> #topic agenda and roll call
06:02:55 <tagoh_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-09-12
06:03:01 <mfabian> Hi!
06:03:05 <tagoh_> shall we have i18n meeting
06:03:09 <epico> hi
06:03:12 <dueno> hi
06:03:37 <anish_> Hi
06:04:30 <pravins> hi
06:04:33 <paragan> hi
06:05:25 <fujiwarat> hi
06:05:25 <skore> hii
06:06:43 <tagoh_> okay, let's get started then.
06:06:54 <tagoh_> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:06:55 <tagoh_> #info 2013-09-17        Alpha Release
06:06:55 <tagoh_> #info 2013-10-08        Software Translation Deadline
06:06:55 <tagoh_> #info 2013-10-08        Beta Change Deadline
06:06:56 <tagoh_> #info 2013-10-08        Accepted Changes 100% Complete
06:08:00 <tagoh_> there will be alpha go/no-go meeting today.
06:10:49 <juhp> I heard there may be RC2
06:10:56 <tagoh_> dunno how it goes but apparently all blockers and exceptions are in testing state right now.
06:10:57 <tagoh_> accepted, I mean.
06:11:07 <tagoh_> #info #23: Fedora 20 i18n test day (tagoh)
06:11:07 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/23
06:11:07 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding topics
06:11:08 <tagoh_> #info #23: Fedora 20 i18n test day (tagoh)
06:11:10 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/23
06:11:34 <tagoh_> well, still waiting for open test day page for f20
06:12:31 <tagoh_> as we talked about review at last meeting, please finish that by early October.
06:13:46 <tagoh_> aha
06:15:14 <tagoh_> will update the ticket what test cases we have and need to review.
06:15:50 <tagoh_> pasting everything here may be too many.
06:16:57 <tagoh_> please check it out and see what you need to review.
06:17:00 <juhp> cool
06:18:17 <juhp> (seems rc2 has been requested btw)
06:18:22 <tagoh_> anything else for test day?
06:21:57 <tagoh_> okay, let's move on
06:22:09 <tagoh_> #info #24: Fedora 20 i18n docbeats (tagoh)
06:22:09 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/24
06:22:20 <tagoh_> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
06:24:07 <tagoh_> so... even though calling for adding relnotes for a while, seems no updates yet. if it's really nothing that's good. I'll close the ticket then.
06:25:04 * randomuser notes that none of the beats have really been added to yet and there is still time
06:25:16 <juhp> :)
06:26:02 <juhp> perhaps we could leave it open for now as a reminder even if we don't cover it every week?
06:26:58 <tagoh_> indeed. just going to stop keeping on track but everyone can add anything as needed.
06:27:04 <tagoh_> yep
06:27:26 <tagoh_> okay
06:28:06 <tagoh_> let me ping bi-weekly or so.
06:28:27 <tagoh_> #topic Open Floor
06:28:43 <pravins> tagoh_: might be helpful if we can have blank structure so users can add it quickly...
06:29:00 <pravins> defaults headline etc...
06:29:05 <tagoh_> pravins: sure. good point.
06:29:24 <juhp> yea
06:29:41 <tagoh_> though if we don't have any, may need to clean it up to avoid pushing empty contents
06:30:07 <pravins> right
06:30:34 <tagoh_> okay
06:30:57 <tagoh_> anything else before closing the meeting?
06:31:18 <juhp> I wanted to suggest have a Bug Corner or something like that in this meeting
06:31:46 <juhp> it could have various formats - like "bring your own favourite bug" or others
06:31:58 <tagoh_> aha
06:33:00 <juhp> if we all bring a bug each that will probably take too long - so maybe need to take turns or be first ;)
06:33:15 <juhp> any thoughts?
06:33:23 <mfabian> Good idea!
06:33:52 <mfabian> Not so many people are bringing bugs yet, we don‘t have to fear that it will become too crowded.
06:33:54 <juhp> well there are ways too of course - but this might lead to some good discussions and encourage more triaging before anyway
06:34:01 <juhp> true
06:34:20 <juhp> ways = other ways possible
06:34:24 * smaitra in favor of discussing bugs in meeting always.
06:34:45 <juhp> :)
06:35:50 <pravins> yes, we should try for it and try to improve same
06:35:51 <juhp> we could still do it with a ticket if needed - just paste the bz url into the Bug Corner ticket to have it discussed say
06:36:08 <tagoh_> sounds good
06:36:13 <smaitra> yep
06:36:19 <pravins> ticket == bugzilla , isnt it?
06:36:35 <juhp> though making it impromptu might be more interesting
06:37:03 <__anish__> hmm just like open floor discussion
06:37:04 <juhp> (ticket would be trac)
06:37:12 <pravins> aha
06:37:18 <tagoh_> if it can be picked up by script that would be nice and helpful not to bear off some silent time.
06:37:42 <juhp> of course we are already free to discuss bugs here now but have a space for it might encourage more bug discussion I think
06:37:53 <juhp> okay
06:38:06 <juhp> tagoh_, can script read trac?
06:38:14 <tagoh_> juhp: yes
06:38:36 <juhp> though need some spacing between bugs perhaps if more than one
06:38:42 <juhp> cool
06:38:47 <tagoh_> as you know the agenda page is semi-generated automatically
06:38:53 <juhp> yes
06:39:19 <juhp> just worry people may forget to post to the ticket...
06:39:37 <juhp> but once we get into the routine it ought to work
06:40:52 <tagoh_> always forgot to send a reminder for open a ticket... will do that for reminding updating bug topic too.
06:41:46 <tagoh_> if that helps
06:43:33 <tagoh_> anything else?
06:46:13 <juhp> can we keep one ticket open for the Bug Corner?
06:46:27 <juhp> maybe one ticket per development cycle?
06:46:34 <tagoh_> yes sounds good
06:46:38 <juhp> okay
06:46:56 <juhp> perhaps I will open one then for this time
06:47:04 <tagoh_> thanks
06:49:36 <tagoh_> any other topics we want to discuss in this meeting?
06:53:03 <tagoh_> okay, let's stop here then
06:53:11 <tagoh_> thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:53:15 <dramsey> ;)  Tagoh - tagoh_ , thank you for chairing.  ;)
06:53:16 <dramsey> 8-)  Effective meeting.  8-)
06:53:22 <tagoh_> #endmeeting