01:00:46 <dan408> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:46 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 4 01:00:46 2013 UTC. The chair is dan408. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:46 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:56 <ParadoxGuitarist> hello 01:01:06 <dan408> #meetingname FAmNA 01:01:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:01:11 <inode0> wow, time for this already 01:01:15 <dan408> #topic Roll Call 01:01:25 * inode0 is here 01:01:27 <dan408> #chair inode0 rbergeron nb 01:01:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: dan408 inode0 nb rbergeron 01:01:28 <suehle> here 01:01:32 <dan408> #chair suehle 01:01:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: dan408 inode0 nb rbergeron suehle 01:01:37 <nb> .hellomynameis nb 01:01:38 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nick@bebout.net> 01:01:39 * dan408 waves 01:02:00 <ParadoxGuitarist> *is here* 01:02:21 <dan408> hello ParadoxGuitarist 01:02:36 <ParadoxGuitarist> Hello =) 01:02:44 <dan408> another socalian! welcome! 01:03:14 * dan408 waves at davdunc 01:03:27 <davdunc> hey dan408 01:03:40 <dan408> #chair davdunc ParadoxGuitarist 01:03:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist dan408 davdunc inode0 nb rbergeron suehle 01:03:55 <dan408> shall we then? 01:04:02 <davdunc> let's 01:04:12 <dan408> #topic Announcements 01:05:07 <dan408> um 01:05:15 <dan408> i believe there's a new GPG server 01:05:19 * dan408 looks at nb 01:05:54 <dan408> f20 tc2 is in testing 01:06:07 <dan408> people have been busy working on stuff 01:06:29 <dan408> we're just coming off a holiday here 01:07:46 <dan408> apparently there's a tc3 request in yay.. hot off the presses! 01:08:04 <nb> yes, we have keys.fedoraproject.org 01:08:30 <dan408> nb, cool! great work! 01:08:51 <dan408> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:09:00 <dan408> #topic Tickets 01:09:35 <dan408> only 2 tickets at the moment 01:09:51 <dan408> .famnaticket 64 01:09:52 <zodbot> dan408: #64 (OLF Budget Request) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/64 01:10:05 <suehle> Bought the plane ticket today 01:10:06 <dan408> i believe this one has been discussed 01:10:13 <dan408> thank you suehle 01:10:41 <dan408> i see you updated the trac ticket 01:10:56 <dan408> #chair vwbusguy 01:10:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist dan408 davdunc inode0 nb rbergeron suehle vwbusguy 01:11:00 * vwbusguy stumbles in 01:11:04 <dan408> hi vwbusguy 01:11:09 <vwbusguy> hey dan 01:11:12 <dan408> hows it going? 01:11:20 <vwbusguy> it goes 01:11:24 <dan408> yep 01:11:29 <dan408> thanks for joining 01:11:48 <dan408> i think we can move on from ticket 42 unless anyone has anything else to discuss 01:11:54 <dan408> err 64 01:12:11 <dan408> .famnaticket 65 01:12:13 <zodbot> dan408: #65 (Software Freedom Day (Dallas)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/65 01:12:29 <dan408> so this is masta's event 01:12:46 <davdunc> I have enjoyed the participation and talks at every SFD I attended in Dallas. 01:13:00 <davdunc> great event. 01:13:04 <dan408> davdunc will you be in attendance? 01:13:18 <davdunc> no. I am up north for this one. 01:13:24 <dan408> right 01:13:48 <dan408> suehle were you able to look at this one? 01:14:23 <suehle> I have, but I don't know what I can help with... like it says, the event box is on the run. 01:14:40 <dan408> ok 01:15:02 <dan408> #chair handsome_pirate 01:15:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist dan408 davdunc handsome_pirate inode0 nb rbergeron suehle vwbusguy 01:15:12 <dan408> i guess we can punt this one til next week 01:15:18 * handsome_pirate wonders if we can discuss my bit real fast 01:15:23 <handsome_pirate> I have to be somewhere 01:15:26 <dan408> go ahead handsome_pirate 01:15:36 <dan408> your plane ticket was purchased 01:15:42 <handsome_pirate> Well, suehle bought my ticket 01:15:49 <handsome_pirate> Southern_Gentlem: You around? 01:15:49 <dan408> yes she did 01:16:11 <dan408> i dont believe he is 01:16:41 <handsome_pirate> Southern_Gentlem: I'll be arriving in town close to 5:30 01:16:50 * dan408 will be right back 01:16:57 <handsome_pirate> Southern_Gentlem: If I can get a ride 01:18:19 <dan408> maybe you should exchange phone numbers with him at some point when he's around or shoot him an email handsome_pirate ? 01:18:32 * handsome_pirate has his phone # somewhere 01:18:40 <handsome_pirate> All right, I've got to jet 01:18:48 <dan408> thanks for stopping by. 01:20:00 <dan408> i dont really know what event boxes are where so ill try and catch Southern_Gentlem or masta if i can 01:20:28 <vwbusguy> dan408, do you still have the west coast one? 01:20:58 <dan408> vwbusguy: yes sir 01:20:59 <inode0> the east coast one is still MIA last I heard and the central one is flying all over the place 01:21:09 <vwbusguy> dan408, I think Southern_Gentlem has the other, if I recall 01:21:21 <vwbusguy> east is MIA O.o 01:21:29 <dan408> so i think masta and Southern_Gentlem have some conspiracy to get it to Dallas 01:21:41 <dan408> #topic Event Boxes 01:21:53 <dan408> so I will claim responsibility and posession of the west coast one 01:22:06 <dan408> where/who had the east coast one? 01:22:17 <nb> the west coast one is empty i thought/ 01:22:20 <nb> or close to it? 01:22:27 <dan408> nb: not at all 01:22:29 <inode0> mario has it but left the country for a couple months so we can't get it until he gets back 01:22:30 <nb> oh 01:22:34 <vwbusguy> there was an HP netbook in it I think 01:22:37 <dan408> nb: i received f19 media from vwbusguy (thanks) 01:22:50 <dan408> I have an OLPC and a lenovo t61 which I received from MarkDude 01:23:03 <nb> so you did get the lenovo? great 01:23:08 <dan408> yes 01:23:09 <nb> the olpc is functioning or not? 01:23:13 <dan408> yes 01:23:19 * nb needs to get with spot about getting us updated olpcs 01:23:39 <dan408> I'm currently incapacitated so it's going to remain here for a while unless there is a dire need for it 01:23:52 <dan408> it has stickers, pens, f19 media 01:23:52 <inode0> and updates laptops - weren't we supposed to be getting new ones this summer? 01:23:56 <vwbusguy> what happened to the HP? 01:24:00 <nb> inode0, yes we were 01:24:02 <dan408> i dont know vwbusguy 01:24:06 <vwbusguy> O.o 01:24:10 <nb> vwbusguy, i think we are no longer using the HPs 01:24:10 <dan408> you'd have to ask Mark. 01:24:15 <nb> they were sent away somewhere i think 01:24:19 <nb> when redhat gave us the lenovos 01:24:36 * dan408 remembers seeing chatter about new laptops somewhere 01:24:52 <dan408> i don't recall having a tablecloth, i believe it's travelling with the banners we had 01:25:08 <dan408> but I told Southern_Gentlem just to keep the banners 01:25:08 * nb wonders when chanchito will be back 01:25:28 <dan408> was he the last known posessor of the event box (east coast)? 01:25:39 <inode0> he has it, it is not lost 01:25:49 <vwbusguy> dan408, I mailed the tabletcloth I received from you to LNF 01:25:55 <dan408> right 01:26:01 <vwbusguy> I Think it went to TLF after that 01:26:03 <dan408> i remember that 01:26:14 <dan408> so I guess masta has it 01:26:44 <dan408> okay folks so maybe this is a time we can think/talk about a refresh of supplies that's not swag? 01:27:01 <inode0> YES 01:27:09 <vwbusguy> I have an XO1 I wouldn't mind trading in for an update here 01:27:20 <dan408> okay inode0 01:27:23 <dan408> please help me out here 01:27:52 <inode0> how? 01:27:55 <dan408> I think the people that have been active in the community deserve to get these refreshes? 01:28:12 <dan408> maybe add an event box or two? 01:28:29 * dan408 is throwing out ideas 01:28:47 <vwbusguy> I'm not sure it's about "deserve" as much as what will be effective for communicating the capabilities of Fedora 01:29:00 <dan408> +1 vwbusguy deserve was the wrong word. 01:29:14 <inode0> how about this instead of more ideas? 01:29:27 <inode0> actually get what you want lined up to buy? 01:29:38 <dan408> well 01:29:53 <vwbusguy> A working tablet from the Fedora ARM project would be a plus IMO 01:30:00 <inode0> we have thrown out ideas for months and no one is doing the work necessary to make any of it happen 01:30:19 <dan408> inode0: is this where we delegate to FAMSCo? :P 01:30:25 <vwbusguy> inode0, specifically a list of hardware and a cost breakdown, right? 01:30:48 <ParadoxGuitarist> Do the Lenovos have SSDs? 01:30:57 <dan408> ParadoxGuitarist: not mine 01:30:58 <vwbusguy> probably not 01:31:05 <inode0> if we need new banners for example someone needs to show up here with a webpage showing what they want and how much it costs 01:31:08 <ParadoxGuitarist> That might be nice to show off boot time? 01:31:21 <dan408> ParadoxGuitarist: not really a priority 01:31:25 <inode0> then we can approve it, they can order it, and someone will pay for it 01:31:39 <inode0> that is the only way it is going to happen 01:31:42 <ParadoxGuitarist> dan408: good to know. 01:31:46 <vwbusguy> I could set innitab to 6 at vents ;-) 01:31:53 <vwbusguy> *events 01:31:58 <vwbusguy> that would show off the boot time speed, lol 01:32:11 <ParadoxGuitarist> lol 01:32:39 <dan408> inode0: well not everyone is here though.. 01:32:56 <vwbusguy> my $.02 is also that we avoid any nVidia since they've made zero meaningful contributions to the kernel lately 01:33:00 <inode0> we don't need everyone 01:33:02 <dan408> imho i think we need an additional event box 01:33:12 <inode0> if *you* need something for the west coast one just act 01:33:13 <dan408> we need another table cloth 01:33:19 <dan408> okay 01:33:27 <inode0> find a tablecloth 01:33:27 <dan408> currently i need nothing, as im doing nothing. 01:33:39 <inode0> don't wait for me to do it because it won't happen that way 01:33:48 * vwbusguy wouldn't mind having an updated XO but doesn't know where to begin pricing that 01:34:06 <dan408> i was just asking for some direction 01:34:08 <inode0> hardware like that is a different story 01:34:45 <inode0> I don't think we need another one but I don't care. Normally the midwest box sits around doing not much of anything. 01:34:54 <vwbusguy> the tablecloth and banners at SCaLE this year are sufficient in my opinion, if we can locate what happened to the tablecloth 01:35:13 * dan408 is tired of trying to locate things 01:35:33 <inode0> we do need tablecloths, new banners, other stuff for the booth (like nice holders for flyers, etc.) 01:35:38 <dan408> imo vwbusguy you should just have your own 01:36:07 <dan408> especially since there are new people coming on board in your region @ vwbusguy 01:36:09 <vwbusguy> why? Just for SCaLE alone doesn't seem worth it to me 01:36:20 <dan408> not just for scale 01:36:38 <dan408> ParadoxGuitarist do you have a mentor? sent intro yet? 01:36:45 <ParadoxGuitarist> vwbusguy 01:36:49 <vwbusguy> dan408, I gave him the thimbs up aready 01:36:53 <vwbusguy> *thumbs 01:36:53 <inode0> it doesn't take that many cases of shipping this stuff to pay for a new one 01:36:53 <dan408> and HannahEeps 01:36:58 <vwbusguy> and he's hit the ground running here 01:37:09 <vwbusguy> just waiting on tuanta now 01:37:20 <dan408> so we know that socal and norcal are *NOT* close 01:37:34 <dan408> you should get your own stuff 01:37:42 <vwbusguy> dan408, my point is I haven't had a use for a tablecloth so far when I've talked at SGVLug or the LAX lug 01:38:03 <dan408> LUGs just require swag 01:38:09 <vwbusguy> exactly 01:38:16 <vwbusguy> what other events are in So Cal that we go to? 01:38:27 <dan408> you would know better than me :) 01:38:32 <vwbusguy> ok then :-) 01:38:36 <inode0> there are others you probably could go to 01:38:40 <dan408> is SCaLE the only thing? 01:38:48 <vwbusguy> ioyeah, Iwas at OSCON and hopefully will get to go again 01:38:52 <inode0> San Diego has lots of stuff 01:38:52 <dan408> like we have a conference every day here 01:38:58 <vwbusguy> but that's in Oregon 01:39:20 <dan408> we do have a need for the stuff here in Silicon Valley 01:39:21 <vwbusguy> inode0, yeah, Ruben was our main contact in SD and he's inGermay right now I think 01:39:31 <dan408> luckily rbergeron did puppetconf so she's self equipped 01:39:56 <vwbusguy> Ruben = biker 01:40:34 <vwbusguy> inode0, I will be at Educause this year, but for work 01:40:38 <dan408> ok so i guess we should try to think this through more and maybe put this on an agenda and create a wiki for it 01:40:46 <ParadoxGuitarist> I'm in SD every other week and can drive stuff down there if we ever need it. 01:41:00 <ParadoxGuitarist> Wait… South Dakota? 01:41:07 <vwbusguy> heh, no San Diego 01:41:08 <dan408> san diego. 01:41:11 <ParadoxGuitarist> Yeah 01:41:14 <ParadoxGuitarist> San Diego. 01:41:30 <ParadoxGuitarist> Every other Monday. 01:41:31 <inode0> we have done that before - I would really like you to just show up saying look at this webpage, I need this for blah, can we get it 01:41:43 <inode0> then we vote, and get something done 01:41:46 <dan408> okay 01:41:55 <vwbusguy> Idid help out with an event at Santa Barbara as well this Summer but it was a kids computer camp. Got them to use Fedora for the Summer 01:42:01 <dan408> that's what i was looking for inode0, how things were done in the past 01:42:53 <dan408> so we dont need FAMSCo for this 01:42:58 <dan408> we can just vote on it 01:43:01 <inode0> not at all 01:43:01 <dan408> cool 01:43:30 <dan408> so east coast chanchito 01:43:34 <dan408> west coast me 01:43:38 <dan408> midwest = ??? 01:43:53 <inode0> east coast is Ben, mario has Ben's box now 01:44:00 <dan408> mario who? 01:44:07 <inode0> chanchito 01:44:11 <dan408> oh ok 01:44:18 <inode0> too many names for me to remember 01:44:23 * vwbusguy perceives that we're done with the action item for this topic 01:44:25 <dan408> and we just dont know when he's coming back from wherever he is 01:44:43 <dan408> vwbusguy: yeah i guess you can take care of socal without a box 01:44:46 <inode0> it is business and he'll be back when the work is done :) 01:45:02 <dan408> what about midwest? 01:45:04 <vwbusguy> dan408, if that changes I'll let you know. For right now I don't perceive a need for a box 01:45:13 <dan408> vwbusguy: cool 01:45:16 <vwbusguy> dan408, I have plenty of swag being a shipping point 01:45:39 <dan408> vwbusguy: yeah if you dont know im immobile so it would be hard for me to ship anything to you right now 01:45:47 <dan408> just fyi 01:46:04 <dan408> so we're not sure on the midwest one yet still? 01:46:18 <inode0> nb has been hosting it 01:46:26 <dan408> midwest = nb 01:46:33 <dan408> is masta in posession of it? 01:46:57 <inode0> I don't keep track and have no idea - I expect Ben has it for OLF 01:47:01 <dan408> ok 01:47:07 <dan408> sounds good 01:47:12 <dan408> #topic Open Floor 01:48:09 <dan408> so I believe last week I proposed something about FAMSCo and after thinking about it I don't really see a point inode0.. they're only bugging you. :P 01:48:27 <dan408> i think it would just create unnecessary drama 01:48:47 <inode0> I've been ignoring them so they haven't bugged me in a while 01:49:00 <dan408> works for me. 01:49:11 <dan408> i think that's better than just stirring the pot 01:49:25 * dan408 feels old 01:49:47 <inode0> maybe, sometimes kicking up some dirt can improve things too 01:50:00 <inode0> I'm too tired to kick dirt tonight 01:50:21 <dan408> well i think you said earlier if i needed something i should just create a page and we can vote on it 01:50:53 <inode0> you don't need to create a page anywhere - just find a website that sells it so we can see it and know what it costs 01:50:53 * vwbusguy decides he's delayed his dinner the maximum allowed time and wanders off 01:50:55 <dan408> so while they are still "useless" to us I don't really see anything good coming from it, if masta decides to run for FASMCo i think that would be good 01:51:07 <dan408> see you vwbusguy thanks for joining 01:51:18 * dan408 misses herlo 01:52:19 <dan408> okay with that said does anyone have anything else for the open floor? 01:52:49 <inode0> nope 01:52:56 <dan408> okay 01:53:00 <dan408> 3.2.1 01:53:07 <dan408> #endmeeting