00:32:35 <masta> #startmeeting FAmNA
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00:32:35 <masta> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
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00:32:55 <nb> .hellomynameis nb
00:32:56 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nick@bebout.net>
00:32:57 <award3535> here
00:33:12 <masta> nb: that is so weird, it had realyl bad lag
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00:34:07 <wrnash1> here
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00:35:32 <masta> #chair nb inode0 wrnash1 award3535 handsome_pirate
00:35:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 handsome_pirate inode0 masta nb wrnash1
00:35:43 <masta> ok lets get going
00:35:53 <masta> #topic === Announcements ===
00:36:26 <masta> Flock to Fedora ended yesterday
00:36:51 <award3535> wish I could have gone, had to work
00:36:59 <masta> anything else to announce?
00:38:03 <masta> #topic === Tickets ===
00:38:03 <masta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
00:39:43 <masta> .famnaticket  63
00:39:45 <zodbot> masta: #63 (LINUXCON Budget Request) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/63
00:39:47 <masta> #topic >>> TICKET 63 (LINUXCON Budget Request)
00:40:25 <masta> award3535: your on
00:40:35 <award3535> Ty
00:40:36 * handsome_pirate is +1 sending award3535 to LinuxCon
00:40:40 <masta> you're on
00:40:55 <award3535> This is for room and travel, booth is already covered
00:41:21 <award3535> rebergeron took care of the booth for us
00:41:35 <inode0> is there a wiki page for the budget?
00:41:38 <masta> award3535: how many nights is that?
00:42:04 <award3535> The cost is estimated for three nights sun, mon, tues, event ends wed 6pm
00:43:10 <award3535> I usually come in under approved budget
00:43:12 <inode0> Can you break this down a little?
00:43:50 <inode0> We don't normally approve a single number without some idea what is what making up that number.
00:44:56 <masta> yep , it would be great to see a breakdown
00:45:11 <award3535> room is 199 plus tax and parking for my car, the rest is for fuel round trip and if needed a spool of DVDs for media production
00:45:41 <masta> award3535: you need media?
00:45:56 <inode0> there is plenty of pressed media floating around
00:46:12 <inode0> so it that $600+ for a hotel?
00:46:31 <award3535> yes, I need media, I also have media req tickets along with box and banners
00:46:42 <award3535> Yes that is 6bills plus taxes
00:47:57 <masta> seems kinda alot
00:48:08 <inode0> anyone else going?
00:48:13 <masta> New Orleans I guess
00:48:31 <award3535> the rooms are normally 326 a night
00:48:50 <handsome_pirate> Holy crap
00:48:59 <handsome_pirate> That's London price
00:49:06 * nb proposes we approve Fuel/parking and room (Room cost $700.00 estimated) (Fuel $240.00 estimated) $990.00 from the wiki
00:49:08 <award3535> Downtown New Orleans
00:49:15 <inode0> that is any big city price
00:49:21 <nb> we don't need the $150 for media since we have plenty of pressed media
00:49:51 <masta> I know a few folks that have got to New Orleans for tech conf.... many have stayed a bit away from downtown or old district to save a bit, but generally the whole area is high priced
00:50:00 <nb> yeah
00:50:00 * inode0 would be a lot happier with another person - no one else wants to or can go?
00:50:01 <handsome_pirate> proposed #agreed Approve award3535 $990 for LinuxCon
00:50:12 <nb> handsome_pirate, +1
00:50:18 * nb thinks award3535 does a good job at events
00:50:38 <handsome_pirate> inode0:  I'd like to, but I'd be extra cost on transport
00:50:55 <handsome_pirate> Plus cost of attending
00:51:20 <inode0> I don't question that award3535 does a great job.
00:51:48 <masta> I could go, but yeah the price is already so high
00:51:53 <inode0> But it is probably twice as expensive as what we normally fund and is about 10% of our quarter's budget
00:52:03 <inode0> that makes me pause and think is all
00:52:43 <masta> inode0: was this one of the items we made room for budget in the previous FAD ?
00:53:14 <handsome_pirate> Yeah, I thought there was just over $1000 for this?
00:53:18 * inode0 would need to go look but since I don't remember it at the FAD
00:53:20 <handsome_pirate> Maybe $1500
00:53:36 <masta> there was a good doc some place
00:53:36 <handsome_pirate> Anyway
00:53:45 * handsome_pirate is +1 award3535 going
00:53:58 <masta> handsome_pirate: since you're quoting numbers, got a link to the doc?
00:54:23 <inode0> so it is there as robyn
00:54:35 <xm4n> how much is the actual budget?
00:55:14 <inode0> just found it, $1K
00:55:20 <award3535> I can let you know that the standard booth is about 10,000 dollars, we are getting it for 0
00:55:21 <award3535> This event is quite large and I think we should be present
00:55:21 <nb> +1
00:55:21 <award3535> This will get lots of exposure
00:55:22 <award3535> here is the link http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-north-america
00:55:46 <masta> ok then so I will +1 the $1,000
00:55:48 <inode0> we aren't getting it for $0
00:56:05 <award3535> Ruth will also be there
00:56:12 <handsome_pirate> masta:  I'm looking
00:56:40 <masta> but we pretty much kill anymore events this quarter if inode0 is correct on the 10% over budget (from above)
00:56:43 <award3535> yes the booth will cost 0
00:57:11 <inode0> Red Hat paid for the booth for us, no?
00:57:23 <masta> I'd say we shoudl consider increasing the cost estimate for this to 1.5k for the future... so two people can travel
00:57:31 <nb> masta, +1
00:57:37 <masta> assuming it stays in N.O.
00:58:06 <wrnash1> +1
00:58:09 <handsome_pirate> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApBrbq5j6NbOdG0zQzVvR3VqQ05NaE5xaDdLOWh3a0E&pli=1#gid=0
00:58:13 <masta> ok folks Please cost a vote
00:58:16 <award3535> yes the booth was taken care of
00:58:17 <nb> +1
00:58:38 * inode0 would leave it up to robyn how to spend the $1k - she owns the event
00:59:04 <masta> nb, wrnash1, handsome_pirate  have given positive votes
00:59:23 <masta> I believe the motion passes
00:59:24 <award3535> All I did was put the wiki page together and enter some media requests Robyn and Ruth did everything else
00:59:26 <handsome_pirate> We have budget for it, we need to use it
00:59:26 <inode0> rbergeron: ping - as the owner please give some input
00:59:53 * handsome_pirate notes that a majority has voted +1
01:00:39 <masta> award3535: you seem to have approval, but I think it would be great to update the ticket with a breakdown of the cost estimates.
01:01:16 <masta> award3535: this event costing so much is not your fault btw, it's our fault for failling to plan the budget
01:01:29 * nb added actual cost for media to the spreadsheet
01:01:36 <nb> we were about 60 dollars over budget
01:02:15 <masta> ok, well i'm glad that is all set... sounds like a good event
01:02:37 <masta> moving on to OLF
01:02:49 <masta> .famnaticket 64
01:02:51 <zodbot> masta: #64 (OLF Budget Request) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/64
01:02:55 <nb> masta, you didn't #agreed it AFAIK
01:03:05 * inode0 isn't going to approve budget for that without the owner either :)
01:03:10 <award3535> I thought I did break it down.... its at the bottom of the page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Linuxcon
01:03:14 <masta> #topic >>> TICKET 64 (OLF Budget Request)
01:03:40 <nb> award3535, i mean, you didn't #agreed linuxcon on irc
01:03:48 <nb> to put it in meetbot logs
01:03:53 <masta> oops
01:03:56 <nb> although yeah, i wish rbergeron was here to say her opinion
01:04:06 <inode0> why can't it wait a week?
01:04:34 <nb> inode0, /me is +0 to waiting a week, either way is fine with me
01:04:56 <masta> #agree three +1's for the approval for LINUXCON budget - majority
01:05:10 <nb> masta, #agreed not #agree
01:05:11 <rbergeron> gah
01:05:18 * rbergeron is in line at mcdonalds
01:05:29 <masta> #agreed three +1's for the approval for LINUXCON budget - majority
01:05:31 * rbergeron is happy to opinion
01:05:33 <masta> nb ty
01:05:46 <handsome_pirate> rbergeron:  Shoot
01:05:50 <masta> #info would be fabulous if rbergeron could chim in on the subject
01:05:51 <award3535> rbergeron; yes please go
01:05:56 <rbergeron> um
01:05:56 <handsome_pirate> rbergeron:  Just not me :)
01:06:48 <masta> rbergeron: the booth and event sponsorship, did that come out of our $1000 budget for the event, or from RH ?
01:07:10 <rbergeron> so the booth - if its like in the past - is free for us
01:07:26 <rbergeron> being nonprofit-ish and all that.
01:07:34 <rbergeron> and passes come with booth.
01:08:00 <award3535> rbergeron; I am now registered
01:08:02 <award3535> ty
01:08:03 <rbergeron> so basically we still have 1k for the event.
01:08:16 <handsome_pirate> Then, in that case, we're good, and should move on
01:08:33 <rbergeron> award3535: thank ruth, i am just here to ... be late because i'm eating? lol
01:08:38 <masta> rbergeron: ty for chiming in while out and about
01:08:52 <masta> ok moving on
01:08:57 <masta> handsome_pirate: your on
01:09:02 <masta> handsome_pirate: OLF
01:09:07 <award3535> rbergeron; i will....
01:09:12 <masta> you're even
01:09:19 <handsome_pirate> Okay
01:09:32 <handsome_pirate> So, simply put, my talk on Fedora ARM was accepted
01:09:39 <handsome_pirate> I can't afford to go out of pocket
01:09:50 <handsome_pirate> Cost of plane and hotel is detailed in ticket
01:10:41 <handsome_pirate> If another Fedora person goes, I'll room share; I may also be able to room share with one of the hosts of The Linux Link Tech Show
01:10:53 <handsome_pirate> That last is somewhat up in the air at this point
01:11:13 <handsome_pirate> So, right now, I'm requesting the full ammount until I find a room mate
01:11:20 <handsome_pirate> ^D
01:11:59 <masta> I believe last year we have multiple folks travel to OLF
01:12:09 <nb> Ben is planning to go to OLF
01:12:10 <nb> AFAIK
01:12:20 * rbergeron will note that she thinks it is fabulous to have moar ppl speaking about fedora at events
01:12:54 <inode0> what ticket are we on now?
01:13:05 <handsome_pirate> 64
01:13:09 <award3535> I agree, I spoke at ILF, had some really good reviews
01:13:29 <masta> inode0: 64
01:14:20 <inode0> I am again of the opinion is not proper to approve such a big hunk of the event budget without the owner present.
01:14:51 <masta> handsome_pirate: so let me make sure I understand what is being proposed: 254 + 426 + tax ??
01:14:56 <inode0> And I again have no objection in principle
01:15:13 <inode0> which is close to half of the budget
01:15:18 * nb moves to defer until next week
01:15:20 <handsome_pirate> masta:  Aye
01:15:33 <handsome_pirate> inode0:  If I can room share, the hotel bit will be less
01:15:35 <rbergeron> inode0: though if others go - hotel can be split/shared
01:15:58 <masta> who is the event owner?
01:16:06 <rbergeron> but nonetheless
01:16:27 <nb> although i am in favor of the request
01:16:37 <inode0> My understanding is that it is or will be Ben
01:16:57 * rbergeron is favor of anything that will give her moral support for her kkkkkkkkeynote there
01:17:04 <inode0> He mentioned it today on IRC
01:17:16 <rbergeron> but should talk to ben :D
01:17:41 <masta> ok then, lets wait for Ben
01:17:50 <nb> #agreed defer until next week
01:18:29 <masta> #topic === OPEN FLOOR ===
01:18:30 <handsome_pirate> rbergeron:  If my talk is prior to yours, I'll send peoples your way :)
01:18:57 <masta> you folks have 11 minutes until end of meeting
01:19:03 <masta> and open floor
01:19:11 <nb> bluehost had good swag at Flock
01:19:19 <masta> nb: yeah they did!
01:19:20 <nb> mini car usb charger things and charger cables
01:19:32 <masta> nb: and nice t-shirts too
01:19:37 * nb would like to look into getting some, price on usb charger things was about 1.50ish from what jared said
01:19:47 <nb> opinions (I'm not asking for votes, just thoughts)
01:19:53 <xm4n> PLanning on hosting a Linux event in Austin, stay tuned...
01:19:57 * handsome_pirate is sad that he lost the bottle opener usb stick
01:20:04 <inode0> yeah, we can get them from staples if we want to follow the heard
01:20:07 * handsome_pirate thinks he handed it to someone and got distracted
01:20:12 <masta> nb: been seeing those car chargers alot recently
01:20:16 <inode0> everyone seemed to be giving those away at TXLF
01:20:27 <nb> and also, /me also would like to look into microfiber cloths
01:20:27 <masta> nb: they seel at Fry's like $5
01:20:52 <inode0> I think they were $1 or $2 from staples
01:20:55 <masta> /seel/sell/
01:21:22 <rbergeron> nb: the cables i got were all for iphone 5's
01:21:38 <nb> rbergeron, yeah, they had some for microusb also
01:21:38 <handsome_pirate> Aye, that's all that was there
01:21:40 <masta> well if we can find them for really cheap I'd say lets get some and see how they go.... but I'd caution the novelty is wearing off quickly
01:21:47 <handsome_pirate> Okay, maybe I'm worng
01:21:50 <inode0> xm4n: tell us more!
01:21:56 <handsome_pirate> s/worng/wrong
01:22:01 <award3535> yes tell us
01:22:24 <award3535> Texas is always on my plate!
01:23:09 <award3535> xm4n ping
01:23:18 <suehle> Scrolling back... To clarify, the LinuxCon booth has been arranged, and it was free. I think we have one more badge (rbergeron, do you need one?) and further ones after that can be had for 20% off.
01:23:32 <xm4n> Since the LUGs in Austin are popular I am deciding  to hold an event that brings just the LUGs together.
01:23:45 <award3535> suehle; I just registered TY
01:23:47 <suehle> spot and I both have talks there and will be there as well
01:24:18 <xm4n> WE plan to contribute and try to make TXLF more exciting than it already is.
01:24:41 <inode0> TXLF is great
01:24:55 <masta> yea TXLF was really good this last tiem around
01:24:55 <award3535> I agree, and will be there next time!
01:25:31 <rbergeron> suehle: yes, i need one - but if someone else winds up needing it i can buy mine.
01:25:40 <suehle> ok
01:25:56 <rbergeron> sdake is speaking and all that jazz
01:25:59 <xm4n> Well more details to come way later but I am also going to host a Fedora LUG meeting within the next 2 months. I have met numerous Fedora enthusiasts here in Austin and also I am already and Ambass.
01:26:01 <suehle> rbergeron, unless you know of someone else in need, just use the same link in the email I sent to award3535
01:26:38 <xm4n> *already an ambassador
01:26:41 <rbergeron> okay - i havent heard anyone else pipe up
01:29:16 <masta> ok folks
01:29:20 <masta> have a good night
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01:29:29 <masta> #endmeeting