06:03:20 <tagoh_> #startmeeting i18n
06:03:20 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 11 06:03:20 2013 UTC.  The chair is tagoh_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:03:21 <tagoh_> #meetingname i18n
06:03:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:03:21 <tagoh_> #topic agenda and roll call
06:03:22 <tagoh_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-07-11
06:03:31 <tagoh_> okay, time to have i18n meeting now
06:03:38 <epico> hi
06:03:43 <dueno> hi
06:03:46 <juhp> hi
06:03:56 <paragan> ah! meeting
06:03:57 <paragan> hi
06:06:53 <mfabian> Hi!
06:07:07 <fujiwarat> hi
06:07:29 <tagoh_> okay, let's get started.
06:07:40 <tagoh_> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:07:40 <tagoh_> #info 2013-07-16        Change Proposals Submission Deadline
06:08:03 <tagoh_> welll, not yet updated for later schedule.
06:08:26 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding topics
06:08:26 <tagoh_> #info #20: Fedora 20 Planning (tagoh)
06:08:26 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/20
06:08:57 <tagoh_> so if you have any plans to submit changes proposal, you have to do that by next Tuesday.
06:09:53 <tagoh_> no plans nor ideas I know of. do you have anything?
06:11:46 <tagoh_> no features nor changes that affects people a lot in plan?
06:12:32 <anish_> hi
06:12:47 <juhp> fujiwarat, any idea what version of ibus we will see in f20?
06:14:50 <fujiwarat> I think ibus 1.5.z or 1.6.z.
06:16:37 <tagoh_> so are we planning to do bug fixing only this time?
06:18:26 <anish_> tagoh_, i am working on libyokan library for text prediction and it's integration with i-t-b
06:18:51 <tagoh_> sure
06:19:15 <juhp> anish_, so how about a Changes page for that?
06:19:20 <juhp> Change
06:19:44 <tagoh_> do you want to make it default in f20?
06:19:48 <anish_> juhp, not sure whether am I able to complete it within F20 time frame
06:20:35 <tagoh_> hm
06:20:45 <mfabian> Do we have to announce something like this? Because the user will not really notice except that it might work better.
06:22:01 <tagoh_> mfabian: in that case maybe not.
06:25:07 <tagoh_> okay, if not, move on then.
06:25:15 <juhp> don't have to but if it is good and useful would not hurt
06:26:06 <tagoh_> #info #21: Compare different Desktop Environments in Fedora 19 (pnemade)
06:26:07 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/21
06:26:28 <tagoh_> paragan: any updates?
06:26:45 <paragan> I am busy with some other issues and didn't get time will see if I can work on this, this weekend
06:27:02 <tagoh_> sure
06:27:22 <paragan> thanks
06:27:26 <tagoh_> #info #22: Fedora 17 bugs cleanup (tagoh)
06:27:27 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/22
06:28:32 <tagoh_> thanks everyone who worked on. that looks good activities so far. still 19 bugs open though, we better keep it up to triage them.
06:29:23 <tagoh_> is there any bugs you are concerned during taking a look?
06:35:02 <tagoh_> no? okay
06:35:16 <tagoh_> #topic Open Floor
06:35:34 <tagoh_> anything else we want to discuss in this meeting?
06:36:09 <juhp> still 14 f17 bugs in New...
06:36:26 <tagoh_> right
06:39:44 <mfabian> How do I see a list of all f17 bugs in our team which are not yet closed?
06:39:58 <tagoh_> mfabian: in the agenda :)
06:40:40 <tagoh_> see the dashboard section
06:41:02 <mfabian> Ah, yes!
06:42:54 <mfabian> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803646
06:43:05 <mfabian> I never noticed this bug.
06:43:29 <mfabian> Of course I noticed the problem myself when  using ibus-typing-booster, but I have no idea how that could be solved.
06:45:25 <tagoh_> I think it may be not i-t-b or stuff specific. that may be something needs to be fixed in toolkit or so.
06:46:16 <mfabian> It is of course the same for any input method.
06:46:34 <tagoh_> yep
06:47:04 <mfabian> When one gets a password prompt in a terminal after e.g. "su -", then one can see the preëdit of any input method if an input method is active.
06:47:16 <mfabian> I doubt that this can be fixed for something like xterm.
06:47:51 <tagoh_> true
06:50:43 <epico> it seems wayland text protocol considers this...
06:50:44 <tagoh_> well, one idea may be to hook up in PAM and send a signal to ibus to turn off? dunno
06:51:29 <epico> the gtk entry can send a request to input password.
06:51:52 <mfabian> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803646#c1 suggests to check the flags of the tty. But how should that be possible from the input method?
06:52:05 <epico> the gnome terminal situation is more complicated maybe.
06:54:00 <epico> mfabian, force to switch to english ime, dunno whether ibus supports this.
06:55:58 <tagoh_> hm, need to discuss further more later to get it fixed.
06:56:05 <tagoh_> anything else?
06:56:10 <juhp> so probably should be assigned to a different component?
06:56:17 <juhp> ibus?
06:56:25 <tagoh_> juhp: maybe.
06:56:34 <mfabian> Yes, it is not really typing booster specific.
06:56:49 <mfabian> If possible, any input method should be disabled on password input.
06:57:55 <tagoh_> nod. that said no framework to do that so far. so we may need to deal with it on IM and file a separate bug for others as needed.
07:00:34 <tagoh_> anything else before closing this meeting?
07:02:25 <tagoh_> okay, let's stop here today then.
07:02:31 <tagoh_> thanks everyone for the meeting
07:02:36 <tagoh_> #endmeeting