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22:33:48 <aeperezt> #meetingname Fedora Ambassadors Latam
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22:34:01 <aeperezt> #topic rolcall
22:34:02 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster
22:34:03 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
22:34:08 <aeperezt> .fas aeperezt
22:34:09 <zodbot> aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' <alejandro.perez.torres@gmail.com>
22:34:10 * echevemaster Venezuela
22:34:12 <mayorga> .fas mayorgalinux
22:34:13 <zodbot> mayorga: mayorgalinux 'Eduardo Mayorga Téllez' <mayorgalinux@gmail.com>
22:34:13 <alexove> .fas alexove
22:34:15 * mayorga NIcaragua
22:34:16 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
22:34:16 * aeperezt Panamá
22:34:20 * alexove Peru
22:34:50 <wolnei> .fas wolnei
22:34:51 <zodbot> wolnei: charged '' <e+charged@wolnei.com.br> - wolnei 'Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior' <e@wolnei.com.br>
22:36:02 <itamarjp> .fas itamarjp
22:36:03 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
22:36:07 * itamarjp Brazil
22:37:04 <wolnei> Brazil
22:37:45 <tatica> .fas tatica
22:37:45 <zodbot> tatica: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com>
22:37:52 * tatica = venezuela
22:38:45 <kovalevsky> .fas sophiekovalevsky
22:38:46 <zodbot> kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky 'Kiara Navarro' <kiarakovalevsky@gmail.com>
22:38:53 * kovalevsky = Panamá
22:40:35 <aeperezt> there any announcement to make
22:40:55 <itamarjp> yes
22:41:08 <aeperezt> #topic announcement
22:41:19 <aeperezt> go ahead itamarjp
22:42:04 <itamarjp> the fisl was a success, the fedora room was full and at same time maddog hall was talking in another room.
22:42:33 <itamarjp> wolnei and lvaz did a great work in fedora meeting at fisl.
22:43:05 <echevemaster> congrats to the brazilian team, Well done
22:43:21 <itamarjp> wolnei, would you like to tell something about fisl ?
22:43:28 <itamarjp> ramilton ?
22:44:05 <ramilton> Foi um sucesso, conseguimos mais pessoas para ajudar a comunidade, tanto na tradução como em empacotamento
22:44:14 <ramilton> foi muito bom.
22:44:18 <wolnei> yes, all the people did a great work, that is why we have the best fisl of Fedora Project
22:44:29 <ramilton> acho que conseguimos atingir os nossos objetivos
22:45:08 <itamarjp> Richard Stallman asked Daniel-Lara in person to change the name of his presentation from "What linux distro to choose? " to "What gnu linux distro to choose? "
22:45:27 <aeperezt> I know everyone is exited for what happend on fisl and it was a great job
22:45:34 <itamarjp> Stallman said, "linux no", GNU Linux
22:45:59 <aeperezt> but we need to get reports specially from all people who attendet and was sponsor to go
22:46:01 <itamarjp> :-)
22:46:08 <ramilton> agora é se preparar para o latinoware, para que possamos repetir o trabalho e obter o mesmo sucesso
22:46:14 <aeperezt> so far I have seem two post on the planet about it
22:46:38 <tatica> awesome :)
22:46:43 <aeperezt> so it was nice you have fun but we need reports.
22:46:45 <ramilton> ok aeperezt, essa semana sai o meu relatorio
22:47:03 <itamarjp> I will ask the people to post in planet.
22:47:38 <aeperezt> thanks itamarjp
22:47:49 <aeperezt> thanks ramilton
22:48:33 <aeperezt> As I underestand by now every one knows. I will share the news here to have it on the logs
22:49:30 <aeperezt> We are really sorry to learn about the passing of Seth Vidal, he was a great contributor and developer.
22:50:30 <aeperezt> And he makes our lives easy with Yum
22:51:33 <aeperezt> so our condolences to his loves ones and all fellow fedorians who had the pleasure to meet him.
22:51:45 <tatica> !
22:51:55 <aeperezt> tatica, adelante
22:52:06 <aeperezt> #chair ramilton itamarjp tatica echevemaster
22:52:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt echevemaster itamarjp ramilton tatica
22:52:43 <tatica> for those attending to flock there is an idea to have a bicycle small trip in honor of skvidal; those of you who are interested pls, answer on the appropriated mail. eof
22:53:14 <aeperezt> about folck
22:53:26 <aeperezt> *flock
22:53:56 <aeperezt> there is not going to be sponsorship to anyone that is not speaker from the Latam and APAC region
22:54:24 <aeperezt> so if you are specting sponsorship. Do not wait.
22:54:55 <aeperezt> #topic 121 dominio projectofedora.org
22:55:06 <aeperezt> Any new about this
22:55:07 <itamarjp> projetofedora.org ?
22:55:21 <aeperezt> #undo
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22:55:31 <aeperezt> #topic 121 dominio projetofedora.org
22:56:04 <aeperezt> itamarjp, do you know anything new about this has anyone talk to Daniel about it lately
22:56:23 <ramilton> É o projeto que estava na mao do Padula?
22:56:26 <itamarjp> Rodrigo Padula comes in person to talk with me about this domain, Ramilton and Raphael Candido was present, Rodrigo told that Daniel Bruno owns the domain and have control of it.
22:58:01 <itamarjp> esta correto ramilton ?
22:58:35 <ramilton> Isso mesmo, aeperezt, o Padula mesmo procurou o itamarjp para falar sobre o assunto
22:59:02 <echevemaster> and the control of domain not are for neville?
22:59:05 <ramilton> Ele mesmo disse que o Daniel Bruno tem todo o controle
22:59:21 <echevemaster> neville was the selected person for that.
22:59:37 <aeperezt> well
23:00:13 <tatica> it should be easy to change the ownership in that case
23:00:24 <tatica> I'm sure Daniel would cooperate
23:00:39 <aeperezt> he may say so but Daniel agree to pass it to Neville and has not done so the only change on the domain is that the owner ship information is now private on the who is
23:00:55 <aeperezt> http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=projetofedora.org
23:01:13 <ramilton> aeperezt, existe um porém ai...
23:01:41 <aeperezt> the request was made over 3 weeks now more that enought time to transfer the domain.
23:01:52 <ramilton> O dominio continua no nome do Padula, o Daniel Bruno tem controle de gerenciar somente o dominio
23:02:09 <echevemaster> I don't agree with that
23:02:21 <itamarjp> ramilton, pelo que eu entendi esta tudo no controle do Daniel Bruno
23:02:29 <aeperezt> therefore my only conclusion is that they don't want to do so rewarless of what they mention on private emails or on the list
23:02:47 <echevemaster> the total control should be to a fedora contributor
23:02:55 <ramilton> itamarjp acho que esta faltando transferir para o nome dele. Não?
23:02:56 <echevemaster> and the selected was neville
23:03:29 <aeperezt> the same with proyectofedora.org still under Rodrigo Padula control http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=proyectofedora.org
23:03:35 <aeperezt> #link http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=proyectofedora.org
23:04:09 <aeperezt> therefore what ever he tell you is just a matter keeping control of it
23:04:12 <echevemaster> I think we are falling into a vicious circle
23:04:24 <kovalevsky> :S
23:04:25 <itamarjp> this is becoming time wasting, should we give up and move forward ?
23:04:35 <itamarjp> plan B ?
23:04:51 <echevemaster> not there a plan b
23:04:56 <aeperezt> itamarjp, he is playing with us and the excuses
23:05:04 <echevemaster> the domain should be for us
23:05:30 <kovalevsky> I agree.
23:05:32 <ramilton> aeperezt, o problema que ele não quer transferir para outra pessoa que não seja do Brasil. O motivo eu não sei... mais a questão é toda essa.
23:05:34 <tatica> plan b should be make that RH legal demands ownership of the domain due trademark violation; however I think that would be completely extreme and unnecesary
23:05:34 <itamarjp> aeperezt, we should move to a jigsaw game, and end this.
23:05:37 <aeperezt> tatica, can we change the page on the site that relate the proyectofedora.org and projetofedora.org as the pages that represent latam and brasil
23:06:12 <tatica> if we have no ownership of the domain we cannot make a DNS redirection or anything
23:06:28 <tatica> besides a friendly intervention OR legal trademark demands we can't do nothing
23:06:42 <aeperezt> tatica, on the fedoraproject.org there is a page that point to those sites
23:06:47 <tatica> so the best would be to ask someone from Brasil to take the domain and then this would transfer it to Neville
23:07:00 <tatica> ah, sure, I could ask nirik to give me a hand on that
23:07:10 <tatica> nirik, ping sweatheart :)
23:07:16 * nirik looks up
23:07:39 <tatica> nirik, thank you dear, remind me to take you a chocolate :)
23:08:04 <nirik> so, whats proposed?
23:08:15 <tatica> aeperezt, changed to what?
23:08:42 <tatica> do we have a paralel non conflictive site to link to?
23:09:00 <aeperezt> tatica, we have fedora-latam.org
23:09:19 <echevemaster> aeperezt: we can use fedora-latam.org,
23:09:21 <aeperezt> it needs some make up but the domain is there
23:09:29 <nirik> the links here: http://fedoracommunity.org/latam ?
23:09:34 <echevemaster> we should not expect more
23:09:35 <nirik> or the domain itself?
23:09:47 <tatica> I could try to help on the makeup for the site, but as you all know I'm planning my wedding, so that could take me at least 2/3 days
23:09:50 <tatica> would that be ok?
23:09:53 <aeperezt> nirik, thanks I was looking for that page
23:10:20 <nirik> thats controlled by websites team, so if you need changes, just put in a ticket for them
23:10:22 <aeperezt> there serveral sites that are not working cose the domain
23:10:30 <echevemaster> aeperezt: so move to fedora-latam.org
23:10:31 <aeperezt> tatica, that is ok
23:10:38 <echevemaster> nirik: thanks
23:10:47 <tatica> great, I would need the admin account, if someone can send it to me could be awesome
23:11:00 <echevemaster> i do it
23:11:00 <tatica> maybe I could use the fedora magazine design which is done and waiting to be used
23:11:06 <aeperezt> all sites under proyectofedora.org on that page are broke
23:11:13 <aeperezt> broken
23:11:19 <nirik> :( yeah, should fix them.
23:11:24 <echevemaster> yes, all the sites
23:11:29 <tatica> http://fedoramagazine.org/
23:11:40 <aeperezt> and the brazil site us un oficial site
23:12:04 <echevemaster> aeperezt: we will can to do a plan for move the sites at fedora-latam.org
23:12:34 <aeperezt> echevemaster, yes
23:12:45 <aeperezt> we need to have all on a place we can control
23:12:50 <tatica> echevemaster, probably we could ask Richzendy help to migrate the content; he has wide experience with that
23:12:51 <echevemaster> then, is decided
23:13:09 <tatica> and if there is no hosting, we could provide it easily I believe
23:13:10 <wolnei> we can use OpenShift for that
23:13:15 <echevemaster> yes tatica, also gomix and me
23:13:20 <tatica> yup
23:13:25 <echevemaster> wolnei: +1
23:13:28 <Richzendy> o/
23:13:38 <tatica> so it would be just a matter of organize a task for everyone and do it :)
23:13:56 <tatica> I have some wp themes that i could personalize easily while other take care of the content, that way we can move faster
23:14:17 <echevemaster> we could do a new site.
23:14:18 <wolnei> i had some wp responsive theme too tatica
23:14:28 <tatica> wolnei, great!
23:14:30 <echevemaster> in django and bootstrap
23:14:30 <tatica> yup
23:14:36 * tatica rathers wp :$
23:14:42 <tatica> just because I'm annoying :D
23:14:45 <wolnei> i work with both
23:14:46 * echevemaster loves django
23:14:53 <kovalevsky> I could help to upload content to the new website.
23:14:54 * tatica hopes that jsmith doesn't show up and claims for drupal!
23:15:00 <tatica> great
23:15:10 * kovalevsky was thinking about implement drupal xD
23:15:22 <tatica> then wolnei and I can take care of the look&feel and kovalevsky , Richzendy and echevemaster of content
23:15:25 <tatica> would that be ok?
23:15:33 <tatica> while nirik help us with the redirection ticket
23:15:43 * kovalevsky thinks that if we're to use the web just only to show content, it's that okey use WP.
23:15:47 <echevemaster> we have do a votation for that.
23:15:51 <aeperezt> tatica, we need to setup a planet not sure if we could wp for that
23:16:01 <nirik> yeah, if you need something just file a ticket and we can get it sorted out. :)
23:16:02 <tatica> aeperezt, we can, we have it for several places
23:16:07 <tatica> is quite easy really
23:16:09 * nirik has to go run to dinner.
23:16:12 <echevemaster> aeperezt: there are a planet written and python
23:16:16 <echevemaster> easy to deploy
23:16:18 <tatica> same with multi-language auto twitter post
23:16:50 <echevemaster> hey, the brainstorming is good, but we have do a votation for that
23:17:02 <tatica> wp +1 :D
23:17:38 <kovalevsky> there is another option or just only wp?
23:17:44 <echevemaster> tatica: i like wp but we have do a site more professional
23:17:56 <tatica> wp is professional
23:18:03 <tatica> besides
23:18:05 <kovalevsky> echevemaster, what should be the features that we're gonna show up?
23:18:08 <echevemaster> a site more extensible
23:18:28 <tatica> to be honest, I rather to have something simple that everyone can help to maintain instead on go to the geekist option that everyone will forget or get tired of mantain
23:18:40 <echevemaster> kovalevsky: if we want to connect with fas, or askbot, then we have an api
23:18:40 <tatica> *maintain
23:18:54 <tatica> well, flock site is a wp
23:18:54 <kovalevsky> tatica, I think that echevemaster is talking about implement more than a blog usually wp is design to create blogs.
23:19:01 <wolnei> more important, is the people to mantain that, so better with people works with wp or django or drupal
23:19:16 <tatica> exactly
23:19:32 <echevemaster> we don't have any site connected with fas
23:19:45 <echevemaster> wp can do that?
23:19:49 <tatica> flock
23:20:07 <tatica> is connected to fas, with the openID
23:20:22 <wolnei> wordpress.org/plugins/openid
23:20:28 <tatica> wolnei, you rock :)
23:20:43 <tatica> I'm not sure who did it for flock, but we could easily ask
23:21:02 <echevemaster> tatica: rmaclen
23:21:10 <aeperezt> if we can do that it seel wp but I'm sure there is a plugin for OpenID for drupal
23:21:17 <echevemaster> or something, don't remember the name
23:21:17 <tatica> I just don't want to waist too much time trying to do a website that will try to conquer the world and then becomes into a kraken
23:21:33 <echevemaster> hahaha tatica ;)
23:21:42 <kovalevsky> For me, it's depend in what we're gonna show to the world, if we need at the future create some feature more complex I think that the best option is drupal
23:21:44 <echevemaster> well, is the people that decide
23:21:48 <tatica> srsly, I have seen websites going and coming too many times
23:22:12 <aeperezt> since the mayority can do wp I think we should use it
23:22:15 <echevemaster> well, wp is easy to deploy, for now
23:22:26 <aeperezt> it is harder to get people to do drupal :-)
23:22:29 <kovalevsky> But it's just only show content and do other features with plugins for WP, then WP.
23:22:32 <tatica> why don't we try to solve the domain issue now and then focus on how complex do we want this new website?
23:22:42 <aeperezt> tatica, +1
23:22:49 <tatica> I would hate to lose such an awesome domain just because someone is too proud or whatever
23:23:00 <kovalevsky> xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
23:23:55 <kovalevsky> For me: drupal or wp it's okey! but as tatica says I prefer wait to solve the problem about the domain
23:24:17 <aeperezt> tatica, yes It is sad to have to chosee that direction but there is no other way we have been over 6 months trying to deal with him but it is more than enougth
23:24:29 <wolnei> i will talk with Padula, but if only agree with transfer to brazilian the projetofedora.org will be ok?
23:24:50 <tatica> sure
23:24:57 <tatica> once a brazilian has the domain we can transfer it to anyone
23:25:07 <tatica> but as long as he doesn't release the domain we can't move forward
23:25:15 <kovalevsky> should be ok, and the the process would be less complicated"!
23:25:18 <aeperezt> wolnei, he already agreed to do that to Neville, why we need to meet his conditions
23:25:31 <tatica> aeperezt, because we had enough controversy
23:25:39 <tatica> lets do it his way, and then move forward
23:25:55 <wolnei> because we need him to transfer
23:26:18 <tatica> wolnei, go for it and let us know once you have it (or someone else different from Padula)
23:26:21 <aeperezt> wolnei, he has already two times agree to transfer and have not done so I simple cannot trust what he say and who talk to him
23:26:29 <echevemaster> wolnei: the wait has been too
23:26:40 <ramilton> aeperezt, o Padula mesmo disse que só transfere para um Brasileiro. Isso ele deixou claro
23:27:00 <kovalevsky> ramilton, isso porque tem que ser asi?
23:27:04 <echevemaster> so, is neccesary that we have move forward
23:27:05 <aeperezt> ramilton, then transfer it to itamarjp
23:27:08 <kovalevsky> ramilton, porque somente tem que ser pra um brasileiro?
23:27:11 <tatica> because.... proud
23:27:11 <wolnei> both proyectofedora.org and projetofedora at the end will be on Neville right?
23:27:22 <aeperezt> wolnei, yes
23:27:42 <ramilton> kovalevsky, ele nao disse o porque, mais disse que transfere só para um Brasileiro
23:27:43 <aeperezt> wolnei, the transfers request are already done
23:27:53 <aeperezt> so he only have to acept them
23:28:00 <ramilton> aeperezt, entao vamos transferir para o itamar
23:28:13 <wolnei> the motive is because that domain is the brazil voice
23:28:20 <aeperezt> ramilton, if he agreed to transfer to Neville
23:28:21 <echevemaster> vicious circle, vicious circle
23:28:37 <aeperezt> let transfer to Neville why he want to change to who now
23:28:37 <tatica> let him transfer to "anyone" and take it from there
23:28:43 <echevemaster> we had not decided yet?
23:28:44 <tatica> we are wasting time
23:28:57 <aeperezt> he is just playing with us
23:29:02 <ramilton> aeperezt, ele deixou isso claro pra mim. Que seria somente um Brasileiro
23:29:06 <echevemaster> aeperezt: correct
23:29:11 <aeperezt> yes wasting our time
23:29:14 <kovalevsky> but then, we should decide what we need to do
23:29:27 <wolnei> the most important will be redirect at end, if him not gives the domain
23:29:38 <kovalevsky> then, could be agree that ramilton is gonna talk with padula and see is he/she do the transfer to itamarjp ?
23:29:39 <wolnei> we redirect to the new infra
23:29:43 <aeperezt> kovalevsky, we already did and he agreed now he changes
23:29:48 <echevemaster> aeperezt: the decision is correct, we will have to move forward
23:30:06 <echevemaster> who votes to move at fedora-latam.org?
23:30:12 <ramilton> +1 kovalevsky
23:30:28 <kovalevsky> who is in charge of fedora-latam.org?
23:30:32 <ramilton> aeperezt, posso falar com o Padula para ele transferir para o Itamar?
23:30:45 <aeperezt> wolnei, infra is not important we have more infra that anything the domain name ownership is what matter at this point
23:30:59 <echevemaster> +1 charge of fedora-latam.org
23:31:05 <aeperezt> we cannot have them on the hands of a a person we cannot trust
23:31:14 <echevemaster> yes aeperezt
23:31:49 <kovalevsky> well, then transfer to fedora-latam.org if we're stilling problem witht he domain name
23:32:06 <echevemaster> I propose vote now for change to the new domain
23:32:23 <kovalevsky> is ramilton could talk with padula and padula make the transfer before we move the site to fedora-latam.org if not, then we should move forward.
23:32:35 <aeperezt> kovalevsky, +1
23:32:39 <aeperezt> let work on that
23:33:01 <ramilton> kovalesvsky, vou conversar com o Padula sobre isso.
23:33:07 <echevemaster> aeperezt: again?
23:33:09 <aeperezt> at then of the day we need to migrate the site to other infra no matter the domain name and we can have both works
23:33:23 <kovalevsky> ramilton, entao nao há mais que dizer =)
23:33:28 <ramilton> itamarjp concorda em ficar com o dominio?
23:33:31 <wolnei> that what i said
23:33:32 <aeperezt> we have over a year with many communities sites down
23:33:36 <ramilton> sim kovalevsky
23:33:41 <kovalevsky> ta bom
23:33:45 <aeperezt> so we need to solve that dirst
23:33:48 <aeperezt> *first
23:34:00 <echevemaster> aeperezt: because i said
23:34:12 <kovalevsky> echevemaster, what do you think, tatica?
23:34:21 <echevemaster> kovalevsky: i don't agreee
23:34:30 <echevemaster> we should move forward
23:34:42 <aeperezt> ramilton, I will not setup my fate on his word he will say yes today and change his mind tomorrow
23:35:07 <echevemaster> kovalevsky: aeperezt we have to decide now, IMO
23:35:08 <tatica> well, I think we could change the domain to fedora-latam while we solve the Padula issue
23:35:13 <ramilton> aeperezt, posso tentar pelo menos
23:35:24 <aeperezt> tatica, +1
23:35:30 <tatica> if Padula, lets see in one or two weeks doesn't send the domain to a brazilian fellow we should call RH legal and claim trademark issues
23:35:33 <tatica> and seal the deal
23:35:43 <tatica> first, democratic, then legally
23:35:55 <kovalevsky> echevemaster, but what i'm saying is that we move forward to migrate the website and if in that moment paudla is haven't give us the domain name, then use the others that we have.
23:35:55 <tatica> is up to brazilian guys to do their best now :/
23:36:01 <itamarjp> its taking alot of time, +1 for  RH legal,
23:36:30 <echevemaster> +1 for RH legal too
23:36:51 <tatica> hint: no idea if they could do anything, but we won't loose anything by asking
23:37:31 <echevemaster> tatica: the name is registered, they can do legal pressure, afaik
23:37:32 <wolnei> the problem is that Red Hat dont have projeto fedora trademark on Brazil
23:37:40 <kovalevsky> +1 to: go ahead and do the migrate  of the site, user the other domain name that we have currently avaliable, ask to RH if they could do something about the issue.
23:37:56 <kovalevsky> use*
23:37:56 <echevemaster> kovalevsky: +1
23:38:33 <tatica> I just recommend to avoid the ugly stuff; those of you who have been around here before 2009 know how Padula is
23:38:49 <tatica> so lets try the nice way first, always the nice way first
23:39:20 <aeperezt> tatica, we have been nice for to long now
23:39:28 <tatica> yeap :(
23:40:37 <tatica> I'm just being maternal and trying to avoid nasty insults, which might come ahead :(
23:40:49 <tatica> blame the wedding for having me so emotional and protective :)
23:41:22 <kovalevsky> then, what're we gonna do ?
23:41:48 <tatica> I would say let a week for Brazilian folks do their best, if not, ask RH what to do
23:41:52 <aeperezt> tatica, I may take the bullet then
23:41:56 <tatica> in the mean time, redirect the link
23:42:07 <tatica> aeperezt, oh honey, I like you to much for being there
23:42:30 <itamarjp> I agree with tatica.
23:42:31 <tatica> nobody should take the bullet for a silly stuff like this; it's clearly a childish reaction
23:42:40 <aeperezt> so no resolution for that ticket
23:42:45 <aeperezt> lets move own
23:42:48 <tatica> :)
23:43:01 <aeperezt> #topic ticket 124
23:43:21 <aeperezt> itamarjp, that is done can we close this ticket and the infra ticket about this
23:44:02 <itamarjp> lets close #124
23:44:33 <aeperezt> itamarjp, excelent, thanks prove if things can be solve by talking and emailing
23:45:09 <aeperezt> #ticket 126 mailing list for latam users
23:45:22 <echevemaster> that is made, afaik
23:45:41 <aeperezt> thanks to the infra team that is solve and we have a latam users list https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/latam-users
23:45:44 <aeperezt> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/latam-users
23:46:21 <aeperezt> please join and spread the word about as it will be the mailling list for support and other stuff on spanish and portuguez
23:46:27 <echevemaster> We have invite to the people to use
23:46:41 * echevemaster publishing to G+
23:46:44 * kovalevsky is so happy to read that
23:47:35 <aeperezt> that will be in use and is one of the things we had to create to replace a list that was on one of the domains with issues and lose around the way
23:48:29 <aeperezt> ramilton, did you get sticker on fisl
23:48:50 <aeperezt> #ticket 129 Adhesives for fisl
23:49:26 <aeperezt> if we are not going to produce Adhesives Stickers we can close the ticket ramilton what do you think
23:49:46 <ramilton> aeperezt, a empresa não me entregou a tempo. Mais o Vaz levou e eu levei os stickers que chegaram pra mim
23:50:22 <ramilton> os stickers foi produzido, mais a empresa não me entregou a tempo.. para levar para o FISL
23:50:35 <ramilton> podemos deixar para levar para o Latinoware
23:50:45 <ramilton> que é outro evento de grande porto
23:50:49 <ramilton> *porte
23:50:50 <aeperezt> ramilton, so lvaz is going to have some already we don't have to make more?
23:51:09 <ramilton> O lvaz já acabou
23:51:16 <ramilton> distribuimos todos no FISL
23:51:24 <ramilton> ficamos sem...
23:51:32 <aeperezt> ramilton, so we need to make them
23:51:45 <ramilton> sim.. aeperezt
23:52:23 <ramilton> e inclusive já estão prontos, eu mesmo vou de carro pegar
23:52:36 <ramilton> para não ter mais problemas
23:52:39 <aeperezt> ramilton, then proceede to order the stickers as we already approve that on a the other meeting but put the production on hold as lvaz was going to provide some others
23:53:06 <ramilton> ok. vou falar com lvaz.
23:53:15 <tatica> is someone from brazil going to flock?
23:53:25 <tatica> probably you could get a better price over there and take it back home
23:53:48 <ramilton> acho que não tem ninguem tatica.
23:54:01 <tatica> :(
23:54:17 <wolnei> no one from Brazil
23:54:28 <itamarjp> eu irei
23:54:36 <itamarjp> I am comming to flock
23:55:20 <aeperezt> #ticket 131 Brazil DVD for f19
23:56:04 <ramilton> nao seria 133 aeperezt?
23:56:17 <ramilton> consegui mais duas cotações
23:56:28 <aeperezt> ok
23:56:37 <aeperezt> that was not on the report
23:56:57 <tatica> itamarjp, ramilton wolnei maybe you could do a fast and short research of prices over there; and then keep with local production just in case
23:56:57 <aeperezt> remember to add the meeting keyword on the tickets so it show on the meeting agenda
23:57:16 <itamarjp> close 133 as dupllicated of 131
23:57:36 <aeperezt> close 131
23:57:43 <aeperezt> valid is 133
23:57:47 <ramilton> ok aeperezt
23:58:06 <ramilton> tatica, inclusive já estão prontos. Só falta eu pegar.
23:58:19 <ramilton> tatica, vou fazer isso sexta agora
23:58:25 <tatica> ahhh, awesome :D
23:58:27 <wolnei> we think do a brasil research with the most brazilian ambassadors
23:58:31 <tatica> then forget what i said :)
23:58:34 <aeperezt> ramilton, based on the experience of the las DVD we produce we should do 1000 instead of 1500
23:58:51 <ramilton> eu fiz a cotação para 2000 como vc pediu.
23:59:09 <wolnei> to create some local distributuion centers, where the most cheap price with transport will atend a region of your conutry
23:59:16 <wolnei> *country
23:59:19 <ramilton> mais acho que 1000 DVDs da para suprir
23:59:42 <ramilton> poderiamos fazer 1000 DVDs
23:59:45 <aeperezt> ramilton, this period we have less events so we don't want to have lots of f19 left over at the start of f20
23:59:57 <aeperezt> ramilton, yes lets do 1000 DVD
00:00:05 <ramilton> sim... com certeza
00:00:12 <ramilton> vamos fazer 1000 DVD..
00:00:31 <ramilton> vou fazer as cotações novamente
00:00:40 <ramilton> agora para 1000 DVDs
00:00:48 <aeperezt> quote for that and lets review and deside next meeting use as price reference last production
00:01:25 <ramilton> ok
00:01:33 <aeperezt> #topic open floor
00:01:42 <aeperezt> anything else
00:01:57 <aeperezt> tatica, itamarjp
00:02:23 <wolnei> i have a idea to propose for your material
00:02:37 <aeperezt> wolnei, ok
00:02:55 <aeperezt> wolnei, please tell us
00:03:14 <wolnei> why we cant change from dvd-r to dvd-rw with more generic artwork
00:03:27 <wolnei> then we can reburn with last version of fedora
00:03:55 <tatica> that could work
00:04:07 <tatica> and have personalized cases or something
00:04:56 <aeperezt> well lvaz was proposing to have multi version printed dvdr so we can burn the version we need
00:05:31 <aeperezt> I think the Idea could work and we have talk that before we need to work around a design and work on the idea a bit more
00:05:57 <aeperezt> that is why for f19 we will produce the dvd as we did before then
00:06:17 <wolnei> every relase have the both works, one more cuty and another more simpler
00:06:21 <aeperezt> for f20 we will definitive use better option
00:06:31 <wolnei> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F19
00:06:56 <wolnei> we need only remove the version
00:07:20 <aeperezt> wolnei, righ but lvaz idea was to have some label on the printed dvd so we can mark 20 or 21
00:07:23 <aeperezt> and so own
00:07:36 <wolnei> that can work to
00:08:10 <aeperezt> wolnei, that is why we need to work on the idea and have a better way to produce them
00:08:53 <wolnei> ok tatica and i can do the artwork for that
00:08:54 <aeperezt> wolnei, made on printed generic version dvd so we burn and mark it with the version some how
00:09:03 <aeperezt> wolnei, ok
00:09:16 <tatica> wolnei, would be a pleasure (besides, I could use some help :D )
00:09:33 <aeperezt> wolnei, ask lvaz he had some previus art that you could use a sample
00:09:39 <tatica> i wouldn't recommend just to take the version away since if we use a version background it wouldn't be consistent with other versions
00:09:40 <wolnei> ok
00:09:52 <tatica> however, I'm sure wolnei and I can sort that out with a standard idea
00:10:00 <tatica> he's quite creative :)
00:10:06 <aeperezt> ok
00:10:10 <aeperezt> any other matter
00:10:21 <wolnei> that a way, some printers can print inside dvds labels
00:10:49 <wolnei> but that its so cheap and not printers have that
00:11:52 <aeperezt> wolnei, great work around that idea with tatica
00:12:03 <wolnei> lightscribe is the name
00:12:09 <aeperezt> tatica, please lets start with the new themes for the domain and all that
00:12:19 <aeperezt> thanks to all
00:12:27 <mayorga> :)
00:12:35 <tatica> sure, once I have admin on the site I will work on it
00:12:42 <tatica> please, send me that asap
00:12:45 <aeperezt> closing the meeting if notting else
00:12:56 <aeperezt> tatica, echevemaster has
00:13:12 <aeperezt> #endmeeting