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01:00:01 <masta> #startmeeting FAmNA
01:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 26 01:00:01 2013 UTC.  The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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01:00:01 <masta> #meetingname FAmNA
01:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna'
01:00:01 <masta> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
01:00:11 <masta> hello
01:00:42 <masta> Welcome to the weekly Fedora North America Ambassadors IRC meet
01:00:42 * inode0 waves
01:01:08 <masta> .chair inode0
01:01:08 <zodbot> inode0 is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them.
01:01:14 <masta> lol
01:01:27 <masta> #chair inode
01:01:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: inode masta
01:02:10 <masta> Will wait till 5 after the hour to allow others to join
01:02:30 * handsome_pirate wavs
01:02:38 <masta> hey there handsome_pirate
01:02:41 <handsome_pirate> s/wavs/waves
01:03:07 <award3535> sorry I am a late
01:03:25 <masta> no worries
01:03:34 <masta> #chair handsome_pirate award3535
01:03:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 handsome_pirate inode masta
01:03:51 <masta> we will get started in a short bit
01:04:59 <masta> #topic === Announcements ===
01:05:45 <masta> I believe we have elections recently
01:06:15 * masta suspects this will be a short meeting
01:06:35 <award3535> only one big item on the list and its mine
01:06:51 <dan408> hi
01:06:55 <masta> #topic === Tickets ===
01:07:01 <award3535> evening dan408
01:07:13 <masta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:07:44 <masta> .famnaticket 56
01:07:45 <zodbot> masta: #56 (Indiana LinuxFest) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/56
01:07:48 <dan408> hello
01:08:03 <award3535> that one is the one I am working on
01:08:09 <masta> #topic >>> #56 (Indiana LinuxFest) - FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/56
01:08:21 <masta> #chair dan408
01:08:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 dan408 handsome_pirate inode masta
01:08:35 <masta> award3535: you have the floor
01:08:53 <award3535> everything seems to be going on track with ILF. they are aware the web site is a little lacking
01:09:00 <dan408> thanks
01:09:01 <award3535> Talks close on friday
01:09:36 <award3535> I let them know that for the next year to make the site a little more appealing and easier to use
01:10:10 <masta> award3535: is there anything we need to decide for ILF?
01:10:15 <award3535> the SELF folks are right on with their site, I referenced that one to them.
01:10:24 * nb would like to discuss media tonight
01:10:28 <award3535> Nope, funding approved already
01:10:29 <nb> although i forgot to put it on the agenda
01:10:39 <award3535> just waiting for sponsor payment
01:11:14 <award3535> dont know who is going to pick up the tab for sponsor yet
01:11:31 * nb suggests inode0 or suehle
01:11:40 * nb is not aware of lh's current status, but she can if she is still around?
01:11:42 * masta 2nds that
01:11:48 <award3535> they are aware of it
01:11:52 <award3535> i thing
01:12:01 <award3535> oops think
01:12:05 <inode0> since it almost always requires agreeing to some terms I suggest Ruth or someone else who works for Red Hat
01:12:34 <award3535> I agree, if she needs contact information I have it
01:13:13 <masta> I motion that award3535 harass Ruth until she pays
01:13:22 * handsome_pirate seconds
01:13:35 * nb thirds
01:13:41 <award3535> okay i will get the information to her
01:14:20 <masta> #action award3535 to harass suehle for payment of ILF sponsorship
01:14:31 <award3535> that is the last thing I need to ILF, unless nb could spare a few shirts for me to give out
01:14:38 <nb> award3535, I could.
01:14:41 <nb> file me a ticket
01:14:50 <nb> s/me a ticket/a ticket and assign it to me/
01:15:03 <award3535> okay will do nb
01:15:28 <masta> #action award3535 to setup a swag ticket to have NB send t-shirts
01:15:45 <masta> award3535: if you need any help let us know?
01:16:14 <award3535> okay, thanks
01:16:22 <masta> sure
01:16:40 <masta> Is there anything more for ILF, may we move on?
01:16:48 <award3535> nope good to go
01:16:52 <masta> thx
01:17:01 <dan408> sorry on the phone here at work
01:17:10 <masta> alright that is all for tickets, we have two open that are pending reports to close
01:18:01 <masta> #topic media
01:18:07 <nb> So, I sent out an email to our media supplier asking for quotes for F19 media, but I think they didn't get the email, because normally they reply ASAP.  I would like to go ahead and ask FAmNA to approve ordering 5,000 of the multi-live DVD-9's like we did last time, provided they come up with a quote that is similar to before, $1.10 each, total cost of $5,500
01:18:34 * handsome_pirate is +1
01:18:59 <award3535> +1
01:19:01 <masta> tentativly agree
01:19:11 <nb> That way I don't have to wait another week to ask FAmNA to approve it, which will delay it another 2 weeks (because then we have to ask FAmSCo to approve it, which meets on Mondays)
01:19:16 <masta> would like to see more solid price, but the general area of 5.5k is good for me
01:19:31 <nb> so assuming i get a quote similar to last time (or hopefully cheaper), I can go ahead and ask FAmSCo to approve it this next Monday
01:19:53 <inode0> why do we need to ask FAmSCo? it was in our regional budget
01:20:08 <nb> inode0, it is over 2k, which i think requires approval?
01:20:10 <nb> or maybe not
01:20:24 * inode0 thinks this is all ridiculous
01:20:31 <dan408> proposal: a little bit of QA on the multi-lives, don't use the GA to compose the multi-lives
01:20:39 <dan408> eitherway +1
01:20:45 <nb> All budget requests over $2000 need to be approved by FAmSCo. Regions deal with requests up to $2000 and each one has its own guidelines and rules for budget requests and reimbursements:
01:20:51 <masta> I thought media was a default approved expense?
01:20:59 <nb> or does that mean that only putting it in our budget requires approval, that actually spending it doesn't?
01:21:05 * inode0 considers it approved when our budget was approved containing it
01:21:09 <nb> inode0, good point
01:21:11 <masta> as long as it stays the same parameters as before
01:21:12 <nb> inode0, i do not object
01:21:21 <quaid> wise inode0
01:21:38 <dan408> yo quaid!
01:21:53 <masta> how many +1's do e have?
01:21:54 <quaid> yo danO
01:21:58 <dan408> 4 +1's
01:21:59 <nb> +1
01:22:06 <dan408> just a proposal
01:22:14 <masta> ok then
01:22:20 <masta> seems to pass
01:22:27 <handsome_pirate> ack
01:22:35 <nb> dan408, I think it would be nice if someone could ask dgilmore to make a test multi-live
01:23:06 <handsome_pirate> nb:  I'll do that tomorrow
01:23:09 <nb> we don't necessarily have to have one for each RC, but to have something ahead of time to make sure alll the EFI and secure boot and all that fun stuff work ok still
01:23:13 <dgilmore> nb: i was wondering today what we should actually put on it
01:23:25 <dan408> i think i can compose one myself cant i dgilmore?
01:23:28 <handsome_pirate> Ok, nvm then :)
01:23:31 <masta> nb: I'll ask him
01:23:43 <dan408> dgilmore is here folks :P
01:24:15 <masta> #agree ordering 5,000 of the multi-live DVD-9's like we did last time, provided they come up with a quote that is similar to before, $1.10 each, total cost of $5,500
01:24:40 <nb> dgilmore, Desktop, KDE, LXDE, XFCE, MATE, SoaS (I'm not sure, is it usually on there?) I think? what were you thinking?
01:24:50 <nb> I think we usually put all of the desktops?
01:25:13 <masta> nb yep
01:25:21 <handsome_pirate> All the desktops?
01:25:23 <dgilmore> nb: SoaS is usually on, Mate is new
01:25:30 <dgilmore> and i dont know all 6 will fit
01:25:32 <handsome_pirate> So, where's Fluxbox been :)
01:25:47 <masta> handsome_pirate: the security spin is flux
01:25:50 <nb> my personal thought would be add MATE, as long as it doesn't make us oversize
01:25:56 <nb> which is like 8.something GB
01:26:10 <dan408> you can skip Cinnamon probably but Cinnamon is only like 3 packages
01:26:23 <nb> dan408, i don't think we have a cinnamon spin do we?
01:26:27 <nb> or not one on the RC link at least
01:26:30 <dan408> oh
01:26:32 <dan408> no we dont
01:26:38 <dan408> nevermind
01:27:24 <masta> dgilmore: we know you are busy, if you got time when would be the earliest we can expect to see an ISO image?
01:27:29 <dgilmore> nb: inode0  suspect we will have to choose between mate and SoaS
01:27:38 <dgilmore> i suspect even
01:27:41 <dgilmore> sorry inode0
01:28:12 <dan408> SoaS is for OLPCs
01:28:18 <dan408> what's the point of including it on a multilive?
01:29:24 <handsome_pirate> Because OLPC is one of the biggest installers of Fedora?
01:29:26 <inode0> ok, this is now hard
01:29:29 <masta> I hate to pick favorite children. If a gun were pointed to my head, I'd choose to have MATE
01:29:55 <inode0> SoaS is something people do enjoy looking at to get the feel of an XO
01:30:01 <nb> dan408, i guess to show it to people, and to tell them that it is based off of Fedora.  I am kind of indifferent about which to keep, i think I kind of am leaning towards MATE, since it might be the most useful to people having the multilive images, but I would like to have SoaS because it shows off how Fedora is what sugar is based on
01:30:28 <masta> I'm not sure this is a decision that should be made in FamNA meeting
01:30:31 <inode0> I'm not sure it is for FAmNA to decide
01:30:39 <nb> #proposal bring this up on mailing list since EMEA uses the multilive image also
01:30:48 <inode0> ok, I'm sure it isn't for FAmNA to decide :)
01:30:59 <handsome_pirate> Sounds like a FESCo punt to me
01:31:01 <dgilmore> nb: ill make one with all 6 and see where we are size wise
01:31:03 <award3535> i agree
01:31:09 <nb> We can go ahead with getting the PO started since we approved funding for media, even if we aren't sure what image to put on it yet
01:31:12 <nb> dgilmore, ok great
01:31:13 <nb> thank you
01:31:21 <dan408> thing is how would I take a live SoaS and install it on an OLPC?
01:31:36 <nb> dan408, you can't, at least not on 1.75
01:31:39 <masta> #info we are talking about the multi ISO image, fitting all the desktop spins, and which ones we keep if space is an issue.
01:31:40 <inode0> that isn't what happens with it dan408
01:32:06 <nb> olpc 1.75 is arm, multilive media is not
01:32:35 * handsome_pirate just had a glasses malfunction
01:34:07 <masta> ok, so anything else to say about media?
01:34:22 <award3535> not from me
01:34:59 <masta> #topic == Open Floor ===
01:36:13 <award3535> anybody have anything
01:36:20 * inode0 wonders if it is time to drop dual arch from that media
01:37:00 * handsome_pirate is +1 for dropping 32 bit
01:37:13 * nb doesn't know
01:37:20 <nb> award3535, I need your address on that ticket
01:37:33 <inode0> I would rather have more examples of Fedora products and fewer architectures
01:37:33 <award3535> okay will modify it
01:37:33 <nb> or did i ship you something else recently? I think i may have it somewhere
01:38:50 <masta> This meeting will end in less than two minutes
01:39:07 <handsome_pirate> inode0:  How do you mean?
01:39:12 <masta> Also, FYI I'll chair the next week meeting
01:39:42 <inode0> I mean I would rather have just 64-bit with both SoaS and MATE than both 64-bit and 32-bit and lose one of them
01:40:15 <masta> #endmeeting