04:00:12 #startmeeting Fedora APAC Ambassadors meeting 2013-05-18 04:00:12 Meeting started Sat May 18 04:00:12 2013 UTC. The chair is udinnet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:00:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:00:23 ;) 04:00:23 #meetingname Fedora APAC Ambassadors meeting 2013-05-18 04:00:23 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_apac_ambassadors_meeting_2013-05-18' 04:00:26 .fas dramsey 04:00:28 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:00:30 .fas tuanta 04:00:31 .fas izhar 04:00:31 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:00:33 #topic init process 04:00:34 #link v 04:00:35 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 04:00:36 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-05-18#Agenda 04:00:41 .fas MarkDude 04:00:42 MarkDude: markdude 'Mark Terranova' 04:00:46 .fas udinnet 04:00:47 .fas ankursinha 04:00:49 udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' 04:00:52 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 04:00:55 .fas Suresht 04:00:56 Suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' 04:00:58 \o/ 04:01:15 #chair dramsey FranciscoD Suresht 04:01:15 Current chairs: FranciscoD Suresht dramsey udinnet 04:01:26 #chair MarkDude 04:01:26 Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude Suresht dramsey udinnet 04:01:45 #topic Announcements 04:01:47 udinnet: please remind everyone of the method to be followed: !,?,EOF etc. :) 04:01:57 cool 04:02:03 8-) 04:02:30 If you have a question please put a ? 04:02:38 :-D 04:02:42 and we'll get the chance to you 04:02:51 ! 04:02:56 Or any thing to say please put a ! 04:03:03 tuanta: go 04:03:30 You may already know: EMEA and NA FUDCon have been merged in to an bigger event Flock 04:03:45 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock 04:03:51 #chair KageSenshi 04:03:51 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude Suresht dramsey udinnet 04:03:54 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_IRC#Meeting_Protocol 04:04:01 ! 04:04:08 (after tuanta finishes) 04:04:27 * tuanta has not got a chair to sit :) 04:04:45 tuanta: EOF? 04:04:47 #chair tuanta 04:04:47 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude Suresht dramsey tuanta udinnet 04:05:32 ! 04:05:39 * FranciscoD pokes tuanta 04:06:13 #2 announcement: we are attempting to have a community card holder in APAC 04:06:42 it would make our life easier 04:06:44 eof 04:06:50 +1 04:07:01 FranciscoD: go 04:07:15 A couple of announcements from me 04:07:27 1. ELECTIONS ARE ON! http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2013-May/001149.html 04:08:01 If you're interested in running for any of the governance bodies, put your name up now! 04:08:07 Naming is already open 04:08:12 #info Naming is already open 04:08:19 #info Questionnaire is open 04:08:23 Apologies for being late 04:08:29 #info Nominations are open 04:08:36 Please read Robyn's annoucement for info 04:08:47 +1 04:09:04 2. I'm looking for a volunteer to make a marketing pamphlet 04:09:10 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer 04:09:19 I thought I'd do it, but I haven't enough cycles 04:09:26 +1 04:09:33 If you want to take this up, please contact me, or post to the marketing list 04:09:43 * udinnet go to see the link 04:09:44 (It's a great opportunity to get started with marketing) 04:10:15 I think that's all. Give me a minute to try and remember 04:10:17 AH! 04:10:21 +1 04:10:24 F19 Beta RC2 is out 04:10:27 #info F19 Beta RC2 is out 04:10:41 Please check the topic of the #fedora-qa channel for details and testing info 04:10:59 I think that's all for the time being 04:11:00 EOF 04:11:30 Okay we got some announcements 04:11:34 Suresht: go 04:11:38 i've one. 04:11:44 yup please 04:11:44 fedoraproject.org Account System (FAS) security issue. 04:12:01 #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-May/003154.html 04:12:28 better to change your password & security question! 04:12:30 eof 04:12:39 okay 04:13:00 #info Please change you fas password asap 04:13:19 #info flock has its own web site 04:13:25 #link http://flocktofedora.com/ 04:13:49 Is there any other announcements? 04:14:06 * udinnet looks 04:14:14 +1 04:14:30 Okay shall we move? 04:14:38 ;) 04:14:40 #topic Review action items from last meeting 04:14:58 1: Please update the ticket #70 with your ideas on the subject asap 04:15:13 Still waiting on bckurera to do something about this. 04:15:19 Please move to next 04:15:32 2: tuanta to open a new ticket to discuss more about organizing real get-something-done FADs in APAC 04:15:46 tuanta: Is there any update? 04:15:50 done 04:16:03 just a moment, I will look for the ticket number 04:16:09 Can we have the number? 04:16:13 ah okay 04:16:38 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/81 04:16:52 .apacticket #81 04:17:15 #info tuanta opened ticket #81 to discuss more about organizing real get-something-done FADs in APAC 04:17:26 Thanks tuanta 04:17:27 I would like everyone to know and input more ideas into the ticket 04:17:40 All of you guys can add ideas to that ticket 04:17:58 3: FranciscoD think of what feedback we can collect from participants in this workshop. 04:18:08 I have nothing at the moment 04:18:09 :/ 04:18:16 ;) 04:18:19 Gotta work on this. Please reassign to me. 04:19:06 #action FranciscoD think of what feedback we can collect from participants in this workshop. 04:19:51 #action udinnet FranciscoD dramsey Suresht KageSenshi input ideas to #81 04:20:05 .fas maeniel 04:20:06 ! 04:20:06 maeniel: maeniel '' 04:20:18 MarkDude: go 04:20:23 Feedback, I just saw this in the Fedora user survey 04:20:34 Male and female is not binary for a few 04:21:00 I think this was brought up on the board list MarkDude ? 04:21:07 Having option of Not Applicable allow a few people to be feel welcomed. 04:21:16 Just a reminder . 04:21:20 eof :) 04:21:26 udinnet: go on 04:21:28 okay 04:21:42 +1 04:21:44 4: udinnet announce event date 04:21:54 Already done 04:22:02 udinnet: if you've got this figured out, it can be discussed with the ticket? 04:22:04 * udinnet go to get the link 04:22:19 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Technical_Seminar_with_F18_University_of_Rajarata 04:22:19 if your ticket is up for discussion today, that is? 04:22:55 Actually the ticket is #74 FranciscoD 04:23:03 I'll update the info there 04:23:21 hrm, not in the meeting list udinnet, not up for discussion today then? 04:23:32 * FranciscoD double checks 04:23:43 nope, not in the report 04:24:00 its just for the update of the date 04:24:11 I'm working on the media these days 04:24:28 I'll bring up a discussion for this ticket soon 04:24:38 OK. The ticket has already been approved. Let's move on. 04:24:45 * FranciscoD has to head out. 04:24:46 5: maeniel udinnet Suresht nangthang *everyone*: if you're interested in helping with budgets, please volunteer with a comment on ticket 79 04:24:50 Please have a good meeting folks. 04:25:08 bye FranciscoD 04:25:11 tuanta: can you please discuss #82 on my behalf? 04:25:23 * FranciscoD will read logs and get into the action over the ML 04:25:47 yes, I will do it, FranciscoD 04:25:54 Thanks :) 04:26:10 I was not able to work with the #79. 04:26:23 i updated #79 and had done few work on it #link 04:26:31 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget 04:26:45 thanks Suresht 04:26:50 as tuan advices :0 04:27:05 s/0/:) 04:27:16 great work, Suresht 04:27:24 I will review it 04:27:32 We'll continue the action further to add more inputs from our folks 04:27:36 just for double check 04:27:37 many thanks 04:27:43 Is that okay tuanta ? 04:27:50 +1 04:28:04 Great job! 04:28:50 * Suresht still has to update more things. 04:28:52 +1 04:28:55 +1 04:28:59 I see an action item for KageSenshi in the agenda :D 04:29:04 lol 04:29:07 no lightsaber 04:29:08 xD 04:29:13 XD 04:29:16 the work Suresht get done here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Ambassadors%2FAPAC%2FBudget&diff=337723&oldid=335603 04:29:26 I will double check it later 04:29:54 #action tuanta to double check budget updates by Suresht at https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Ambassadors%2FAPAC%2FBudget&diff=337723&oldid=335603 04:30:13 tuanta: no worries. update me once you checked. 04:30:33 have you done all necessary updates? 04:30:45 I will double check after you done 04:30:49 #action Suresht udinnet dramsey *everyone* volunteer with a comment on ticket 79 04:31:10 tuanta: sure :) 04:31:16 ? 04:31:24 notify me when you done. Thanks 04:31:25 dramsey: go :) 04:31:29 come on udinnet 04:31:38 oh I'm sorry tuanta 04:31:52 +1 laser energy - These aren't the droids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIzAaY2Jm-s eof 04:32:18 tuanta: go on :) 04:33:30 Is these any info about the community credit card? 04:33:43 Hi 04:33:55 #chair bckurera 04:33:55 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude Suresht bckurera dramsey tuanta udinnet 04:34:02 hey bckurera 04:34:12 +1 04:34:29 udinnet, we are in conversation to convince KageSenshi to take that hot chair 04:34:33 Got late and travelling 04:34:42 xD 04:34:45 he's almost approved 04:34:58 tuanta: :D 04:35:02 +1 KageSenshi 04:35:06 that's a bit afraid of being a single point of failure 04:35:19 he's afraid that 04:35:28 ! 04:35:28 yepp2 .. single point of failure xD .. 04:35:31 I think now we have no point 04:35:40 single point is better :) 04:35:41 Tuanta did you contact ankur? 04:35:49 just kidding :) 04:35:55 #chair dan408 04:35:55 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude Suresht bckurera dan408 dramsey tuanta udinnet 04:35:59 +1 04:36:11 dramsey: +1 04:36:13 Ankur proposed a nice process for CC holder to work better: 04:36:18 see link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/82 04:36:36 I will talk about that idea later in this meeting 04:36:45 bckurera: yes 04:37:05 tuanta: we'll discuss this ticket in the next topic :) 04:37:35 Those are the action items for today. 04:37:37 yes, come on, udinnet 04:37:51 #topic Trac tickets 04:37:58 wait, I have another action 04:38:05 I think MarkDude has something to say 04:38:11 MarkDude: go 04:38:19 ultimately 2 would be nice. But having a another backup would be fine. You should be ok KageSenshi - ypiu are part of a good team. eof 04:38:38 +1 MarkDude 04:38:39 ypiu/you 04:38:55 tuanta: Time to discuss about #82 04:39:07 .fas jurankdankkal 04:39:08 jurank_dankkal: jurankdankkal 'Prima Yogi Loviniltra' 04:39:11 one left action 04:39:17 8: tuanta decide who he wants as the helper 04:39:22 done 04:39:23 #chair jurank_dankkal 04:39:23 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude Suresht bckurera dan408 dramsey jurank_dankkal tuanta udinnet 04:39:31 +1 04:39:35 :) 04:39:59 that's Suresht :) 04:40:04 Cool 04:40:12 8-) 04:40:21 +1 tuanta 04:40:37 so, time for discuss #82 04:40:38 #info Suresht will be helping out tuanta in the budget process 04:40:49 Good to have help from Suresh since the funding process getting complex :-) 04:40:59 +1 bckurera 04:40:59 +1 :-D 04:41:48 #topic ticket #82: Let the CC holder assign a particular day of the week as "Reimbursement day" 04:42:03 the ideas behind this are 04:42:39 you know, we have not got any CC holder in APAC after Harish left (because he is too busy by day job) 04:43:05 we have Jsimon form EMEA to help us for a few months 04:43:14 erk? harish left? >.< 04:43:26 :( 04:43:39 KageSenshi: actually, Harish no show 04:43:49 ah .. ok thats normal 04:43:49 all reimbursement requests pending 04:43:53 for a long time 04:44:06 >.< 04:44:11 yes, no show, sorry (not left :) 04:44:13 KageSenshi: actually harish was quite busy past months. 04:44:26 harish is always busy :) 04:44:44 then Jsimon come into and help us for a few last months 04:44:52 the only way to reliably reach him is through phone xD 04:45:24 So FranciscoD was proposing the idea to have our own CC holder for APAC 04:45:29 but he is busy too and his CC has a limit seem not enough to support both EMEA and APAC at the same time 04:45:46 so, we need a dedicated CC holder in APAC 04:45:58 and we see KageSenshi is the best candidate 04:46:03 #chair niteshnarayanlal 04:46:03 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude Suresht bckurera dan408 dramsey jurank_dankkal niteshnarayanlal tuanta udinnet 04:46:05 +1 04:46:16 +1 04:46:22 >.< 04:46:26 +1 04:46:27 he just concerns about his time 04:46:28 +1 04:46:37 so, Ankur proposed that idea 04:46:44 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/82 04:46:44 +1 04:46:46 ;) 04:47:02 KageSenshi: any ideas? 04:47:06 yeap .. i'm mainly concerned about time, considering i'm running own company, i do have my share of 'harish-like-dissappearance' moments .. 04:47:26 in the idea, Ankue proposed a "Reimbursement Day" (Wednesday, as he mentioned) in a week 04:47:29 Agree with tuan but that is not the real problem here 04:47:32 ! 04:47:48 please MarkDude 04:47:54 Reimbursement day sounds manageable 04:47:56 Having a CC holder for APAC is very important in this context. because we can speedup the reimbursement process. 04:48:16 Even if you canceled two Mondays a month KageSenshi 04:48:39 it's much more convenience for both KageSenshi and request owners 04:48:46 People have 2 days they can reach- APAC can be helpful to you on this 04:48:50 eof 04:49:03 Errr Wednesday 04:49:04 :-)! 04:49:07 MarkDude: I agree with Ankur we should do this weekly 04:49:08 Thanks MarkDude 04:49:14 * KageSenshi trying to understand how #82 could help with dissappearance moments problem .. 04:49:24 bckurera: anything to say? :) 04:49:34 because, most times, people need to get money back asap :) 04:49:45 Yup sorry slow typing since i m from the phone 04:49:48 more that KageSenshi *could * for needs of business cancel- and people WOULD understand. eof 04:50:07 bckurera: hold on I'll get to you 04:50:21 but, of course, KageSenshi can decide the most convenience for him 04:50:46 in case it is still convenience enough to others :) 04:50:47 tuanta: Yes that was a big problem for past tickets which needs reimbursement 04:51:01 ah .. so the date is picked by me? .. rather than a weekly day ? .. 04:51:04 s/needs/needed 04:51:13 KageSenshi: yes... 04:51:16 s/me/ccholder/g 04:51:21 I think kagesenshi can handle thia and apacbwill help you, you decide the best way 04:51:23 you can propose your schedule 04:51:32 ok, that might work .. 04:51:43 +1 04:51:50 KageSenshi: exact you, not a generic cc holder :) 04:51:58 xD 04:52:39 But the issue is getting RH CC, i was working on this from last year but no success, same as sesavaninfrom EMEA 04:52:49 I believe you can balance between your time and how others expect you 04:53:02 #action KageSenshi will propose the schedule for being the APAC CC holder to #82 04:53:10 We need to make sure we get the RH CC but it will take time it seems 04:53:10 then you will have a good schedule 04:53:29 bckurera: yes, first we need to decide the person representative for APAC 04:54:00 KageSenshi: please update your ideas to the ticket 04:54:03 ;) 04:54:04 ok 04:54:05 then we (in FAmSCo) will follow RH to get it done 04:54:10 Even though we do it it nearly take more time to getone 04:54:25 yes, we expect a few months to get this done 04:54:52 The real challenge is manage reimbursements till we get one 04:55:02 actually, it's not a tomorrow story, that needs weeks or months to get done 04:55:21 * Suresht reminds that 6 min left :) 04:55:35 +1 04:55:36 yes, we can learn from other regions 04:55:47 #info Soon after deciding the CC holder for APAC. The FAmSCo folks from APAC will be in a process to get the CC from RH 04:55:52 #chair bckurera__ 04:55:52 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude Suresht bckurera bckurera__ dan408 dramsey jurank_dankkal niteshnarayanlal tuanta udinnet 04:56:01 Suresht: noted ;) 04:56:03 EMEA is the best region we can learn much from the 04:56:19 s/the/them 04:56:27 +1 04:56:42 tuanta: EOF? 04:56:48 yes, eof :) 04:56:55 any questions or comments? 04:56:55 okay then 04:57:03 please put all them to the ticket 04:57:04 thanks 04:57:31 I see there is a ticket from you dramsey 04:57:42 Do we need to discuss it? 04:57:47 #77 04:57:51 udinnet, not now. eof 04:58:31 Okay then. Any other tickets to discuss? 04:59:05 we'll move to the open floor --> 04:59:31 ! 04:59:37 MarkDude: go 04:59:59 Dont forget MarkDude 's events in NA. I want someone to have a Geeknic 05:00:09 Or at least a potluck party too 05:00:19 APAC rocks! eof 05:00:27 Cool. 05:00:29 +1 05:00:36 :P 05:00:37 #topic Open Floor 05:00:42 ? 05:00:46 dramsey: go 05:00:58 I asked our fellow APAC'ers to review #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-05-18#Open_Floor 05:01:08 for the entries to help plan their events and planninng. 05:01:15 s/nnn/nn 05:01:16 eof 05:01:29 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-05-18#Open_Floor 05:01:30 eof 05:01:49 Yes dramsey that is a good idea to pre-plan your event for the F19 05:01:54 and others 05:02:19 +1 thank you. ;) 05:02:25 There is a big event we need to plan for this FY 05:02:34 ye ye Fedora 19 is near by future :) + dramsey eof 05:02:35 That is the FAD 05:02:44 +1 05:02:47 thinking of doing potluck for F19 release XD 05:02:58 mcD hangout getting boring 05:02:59 lol 05:03:09 So all you folks can help out in this to get it success ;) 05:03:22 ! 05:03:34 Seems we passed 3 min more than time 05:03:46 jurank_dankkal: go 05:04:08 ? 05:04:10 just want to announce we are from Fedora-Id attend poss.itb.ac.id today 05:04:20 +1 05:04:20 * udinnet seems it is time to end the meeting 05:04:23 like gathering all linux community in Indonesia 05:04:29 +1 jurank_dankkal 05:04:36 jurank_dankkal: cool :) 05:04:45 I'll update the report soon.. 05:04:47 eof 05:04:51 +1 05:04:55 maeniel: go 05:05:07 Just wanted to confirm F19 parties can occur a bit after the actual date 05:05:19 and that I can incorporate other activities into it such as key signing, talks etc 05:05:20 eof 05:05:32 +1 05:06:09 ! 05:06:14 maeniel: It is not a must to have a party on the actual date. ;) 05:06:18 maeniel: go 05:06:26