04:00:50 #startmeeting Fedora APAC Ambassadors meeting 2013-05-04 04:00:50 Meeting started Sat May 4 04:00:50 2013 UTC. The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:00:50 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:00:58 .fas dramsey 04:00:58 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:00:58 #meetingname Fedora APAC Ambassadors meeting 2013-05-04 04:00:58 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_apac_ambassadors_meeting_2013-05-04' 04:01:03 dramsey: hold up :P 04:01:06 .fas udinnet 04:01:07 #topic init process 04:01:07 udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' 04:01:12 .fas ankursinha 04:01:12 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 04:01:34 .fas maeniel 04:01:35 maeniel: maeniel '' 04:01:40 * FranciscoD waits for others to finish roll call 04:01:42 .fas suresht 04:01:43 Suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' 04:01:57 #chair tuanta dramsey Suresht maeniel udinnet 04:01:57 Current chairs: FranciscoD Suresht dramsey maeniel tuanta udinnet 04:02:06 .fas tuanta 04:02:07 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:02:09 any one else? 04:02:30 Ok. Moving on. 04:02:47 Reminder: To say something, or ask a question, please use "!" or "?" 04:02:56 and say "EOF" when you finish. 04:03:07 #topic Announcements 04:03:17 Does any one have any announcements to make? 04:03:31 * FranciscoD does have one 04:03:41 go ahead 04:03:48 #info please stay tuned for the Fedora 20 elections. Both naming and governance elections will start soon. 04:03:49 .fas izhar 04:03:50 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 04:04:17 I'm the election wrangler again this time. I've been in touch with Jaroslav and we sort of have a schedule prepared and ready to go. 04:04:41 If you're interested in running for governance posts, its' a good time to update your user pages etc ;) 04:04:48 eof 04:04:52 +1 04:04:53 ! 04:04:56 Suresht: go 04:04:56 ! 04:05:01 not announcements but will help this : http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2013-May/021091.html 04:05:11 eof 04:05:45 #info http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2013-May/021091.html -> Fedora 19 T shirts being discussed in FAmSCo. Please read the ML for more information. 04:05:48 tuanta: go 04:06:27 yes, I got two announcement but Suresht helped me to do one (above) 04:06:39 the second is: Flock 04:06:43 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock 04:06:51 +1 04:06:57 some of you here may hear about Flock 04:07:28 it's a new style of FUDCon 04:07:48 no more fudcon? xD 04:07:56 it is merged EMEA and NA FUDCon 04:08:11 KageSenshi: FLOCK is only for Contributors. Nothing for users. 04:08:16 APAC and LATAM FUDCon do not change 04:08:18 ah 04:08:22 ok :) 04:08:40 FUDCon's will continue, but the critical FUDCons will be converted to FLOCK 04:09:03 for instance, I have to get the election results out in time so new governance members can attend FLOCK 04:09:09 (and plan f20 etc) 04:09:20 so you can see APAC and LATAM FUDCons are still available for both developers and users 04:09:41 tuanta: we'll hope to have a flock here too, once we have more contributors in core areas 04:10:00 but the new style Flock in EMEA and NA is specially for Fedora contributors 04:10:03 +1 FranciscoD 04:10:18 it may work, FranciscoD 04:10:29 Yeah. 04:10:52 after several Flock in EMEA and NA, I also hope it will be moved to other regions 04:10:58 eof 04:11:31 +1 04:11:41 Any other announcements? 04:11:46 * FranciscoD waits for a minute 04:12:18 Moving to next topic 04:12:32 #topic Review action items from last meeting 04:12:40 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-05-04#Review_action_items_from_last_meeting 04:12:44 Please take a peek 04:12:53 +1 04:13:00 We'll discuss the ones that aren't marked as done 04:13:07 1. udinnet Update ticket #74 with more detailed information 04:13:11 udinnet: ^ done? 04:13:21 Yup of course :) 04:13:37 Please take a peek to ticket and wiki page 04:13:47 I discussed with bckurera 04:13:52 udinnet: we'll discuss the trac ticket in the next topic 04:14:06 #info udinnet Update ticket #74 with more detailed information -> DONE 04:14:23 +1 04:14:34 +1 04:14:49 2. nangthang: Update agenda page, confirm links etc. are all correct. 04:15:04 nangthang isn't here, but the previous agenda page seems complete 04:15:09 #info nangthang: Update agenda page, confirm links etc. are all correct. -> DONE 04:15:28 We have 3 action items to do with ticket #70 04:15:40 bckurera isn't here, so I'm skipping them for the moment 04:15:53 #info skipping action items with ticket # 70 04:16:07 3. tuanta to bring Regional budget for FY2014 to FAmSCo meeting then report back to APAC in the next meeting 04:16:14 tuanta: is this still pending?? ^ 04:16:34 yes, I missed the last FAmSCo meeting 04:16:45 but budget page has been updated 04:16:48 tuanta: but the budget is complete, right? I mean, allocation etc? 04:16:50 +1 04:16:58 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget 04:17:05 tuanta: is it final, or are more changes expected? 04:17:14 yes, it's done FranciscoD 04:17:21 Great. I thought so. 04:17:22 +1 04:17:27 this should be the final one 04:17:29 #info tuanta to bring Regional budget for FY2014 to FAmSCo meeting then report back to APAC in the next meeting -> DONE 04:17:44 #info APAC Budget has been finalized. Kudos tuanta :) 04:17:55 +1 04:17:58 nangthang's here :) 04:18:01 #chair nangthang 04:18:01 Current chairs: FranciscoD Suresht dramsey maeniel nangthang tuanta udinnet 04:18:04 .fas nangthang 04:18:04 FranciscoD: nangthang 'Thang Nguyen Nang' 04:18:10 4. tuanta to open a new ticket to discuss more about organizing real get-something-done FADs in APAC 04:18:18 .fas nangthang 04:18:18 nangthang: nangthang 'Thang Nguyen Nang' 04:18:21 tuanta: I think this one's done too? I rememeber seeing a trac ticket? 04:18:38 it's a much longer term goal so progress will be slow 04:19:10 a lot of things in my mind now. so messy :) 04:19:13 let me check 04:19:23 tuanta: can I close the budget trac ticket? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/72 ? 04:19:27 Since it's complete? 04:19:55 yes, it should be closed 04:20:00 I'll do it. 04:20:04 +1 04:20:09 #action FranciscoD close ticket #72. 04:20:24 +1 04:20:24 #4 has not been done 04:20:32 please re-mark it as an action to me 04:20:56 #action tuanta to open a new ticket to discuss more about organizing real get-something-done FADs in APAC 04:21:06 thanks 04:21:07 okay. That covers action item reviews 04:21:11 Moving on to next topic 04:21:25 ? 04:21:25 #topic Trac tickets 04:21:29 dramsey: go 04:21:31 ...(1:14:49 PM) FranciscoD: 2. nangthang: Update agenda page, confirm links etc. are all correct. 04:21:32 eof 04:21:51 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-05-04#Trac_tickets 04:22:11 dramsey: he had to update last meetings page and confirm the log links were correct. I think it's been done :) 04:22:20 (You already put up the links etc ;)) 04:22:22 +1 thank you 04:22:24 ;)\ 04:22:27 eof 04:22:30 ! 04:22:33 udinnet: go 04:22:42 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/74 04:22:48 udinnet: yep, coming to it ;) 04:22:56 :) 04:23:11 +1 04:23:23 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F18_University_of_Rajarata 04:23:51 #info Not a release party any more. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/74#comment:2 04:24:05 #info Funds available since GSoC in Sri Lanka was not held 04:24:05 +1 04:24:11 You're correct FranciscoD 04:24:27 it means it is more than a release party :) 04:24:31 tuanta: Please make a note of this, that the budget for another event which did not happen are proposed to being used here. 04:24:36 udinnet: sounds good. 04:25:04 ok, FranciscoD 04:25:07 Accurate link to event page is 04:25:08 +1 04:25:13 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Technical_Seminar_with_F18_University_of_Rajarata 04:25:29 eof 04:25:39 Looks good to me. 04:25:52 Everyone please go through the event page and ask udinnet any questions if needed. 04:25:54 #action tuanta to Update budget wiki to note Funds available since GSoC in Sri Lanka was not held 04:26:44 tuanta: request is for $360 approx. Doable? 04:27:02 * FranciscoD notes that funds for food are more than for Fedora thingys 04:27:13 But I guess that's OK if you have 200 participants 04:27:23 +1 04:27:25 If everyone's had a look, I'll request a vote 04:27:51 tuanta: dramsey Suresht maeniel hanthana nangthang 04:27:59 +1 from dramsey, eof 04:28:19 Okay, voting then 04:28:35 +1 from me. Looking forward to lots of new participants here. 04:28:55 +1, looks like something i would attend. 04:29:02 udinnet: it'll be great if you can maybe collect some feedback from these people. We'd like to learn what we're doing well, and what we aren't 04:29:16 udinnet: I'll maybe think of some questions and mail you later on the subject 04:29:31 Sure thing FranciscoD 04:29:37 #action FranciscoD think of what feedback we can collect from participants in this workshop. 04:29:45 +1 04:30:00 We have a good plan for this event. 04:30:07 if anyone else has ideas, please feel free to mail me. I'll collate them all and send them to udinnet 04:30:15 +1 04:30:19 ! 04:30:22 tuanta: go 04:30:24 Yes please do so 04:30:53 +1 FranciscoD 04:31:00 We love to have your ideas for this event 04:31:01 over a half of fund ($190) is for food. 04:31:10 So we can improve it. 04:31:12 we discussed this on another event las meeting 04:31:22 s/las/last 04:31:24 #idea folks with any ideas on feedback mail FranciscoD 04:31:38 tuanta: yes, but for 200 participants, 190 is about a $ each 04:31:39 let me check which one 04:31:47 Difficult to reduce that any further IMO 04:31:53 yes, I see 04:32:00 Stickers etc are much cheaper per head, even media 04:32:02 tuanta: The number of participants are around 200 04:32:12 Maybe it'll be more than 200 04:32:31 LKR 126 = $1 04:32:58 #idea will it be possible to host like a feedback website, where folks that attended can comment? Would come in handy for all events 04:33:06 So I think Its a reasonable amount I requested there. 04:33:08 tuanta: was discussed in the last meeting iirc. 04:33:08 ok, then +1 from me 04:33:29 that's +5/-0 I think. 04:33:46 #agreed sponsor udinnet 's event, trac ticket #74 04:34:01 #action FranciscoD update ticket with approval information etc. 04:34:19 next 04:34:19 Great. I'll announce the event date asap. 04:34:25 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/77 04:34:26 +1 04:34:35 dramsey: this one is yours. No wiki link :/ 04:34:40 +1 04:34:53 #action udinnet announce event date for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Technical_Seminar_with_F18_University_of_Rajarata 04:34:58 True, and I will work on that. I want to add this meeting is moving along really good. 04:35:07 eof 04:35:17 ? 04:35:21 dramsey: so, should we skip the ticket and do it when you have it set up correctly then? 04:35:24 dramsey: go 04:35:26 Does content of the request look A okay? efof 04:35:42 s/efof/eof 04:35:45 dramsey: the money looks okay to me 04:35:52 ? 04:36:10 Would that be acceptable "depending" on wiki? eof 04:36:44 Yes, event wiki is mandatory, my friend 04:36:49 +1 04:36:56 dramsey: wiki and details are compulsory, yes. 04:37:10 We don't want to start a trend of approving tickets without complete information :) 04:37:14 Compulsory and complementary are perfect. 04:37:28 +1 :) 04:37:33 #info skipping ticket 77. Will be discussed as soon as dramsey has details set up 04:37:34 Let us skip and move forward... 04:37:49 ;) 04:37:53 The next two are my tickets: 04:37:56 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/78 04:38:07 tuanta: is this doable? 04:38:23 the next ticket is related to this one too: 04:38:24 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/79 04:38:47 nangthang: Suresht udinnet maeniel : would any of you like to help tuanta with the budget responsibilities? 04:39:17 Of course I can help him 04:39:17 dramsey: tuanta : any perspective newer folks who you think can help? 04:39:19 yes, i'll help tuanta 04:39:53 it's a permanent post for the entire budget cycle. You'll have to know exactly what's going on with the budget 04:40:05 and be able to report when required, answer folks questions etc 04:40:21 (and be able to tell us if an event request is feasible or not) 04:40:30 ! 04:40:41 if you're interested, please comment on the ticket saying so 04:40:42 maeniel: go 04:40:50 +1 04:40:51 I would say yes but seems a bit early for me? still very new to ambassadors and APAC 04:41:09 maeniel: sure, but you can dive in if you think you can manage it ;) 04:41:22 maeniel: it's a core responsibility, so you'll learn quite a bit here :) 04:41:52 (Please read my notes in the tickets. I've tried to be as verbose as possible about what this ticket holds for apac and the volunteer) 04:42:14 #info folks please nominate yourselves, or others to help tuanta with the budget. 04:42:26 +1 04:42:35 +1 04:42:36 tuanta: are you OK with a helper? I just thought a single point of contact adds too much pressure on you 04:42:57 I am more than happy :) 04:43:14 tuanta: also, I'll leave the final decision with you to choose your helper. You'll have to mentor him/her a little at the start :) 04:43:26 tuanta: aren't you mentoring nangthang already? 04:43:34 yes 04:43:44 tuanta: he makes the ideal candidate then ;) 04:43:46 but I think candidate from other country is better 04:44:00 tuanta: ah, okay. I'll leave the final decision with you :) 04:44:03 for more and more transparency 04:44:14 tuanta: I would like to help you on this topic. Please keep me posted. 04:44:16 I think I've done enough by just making noise about it ;) 04:44:24 udinnet: please comment on the ticket. 04:44:33 FranciscoD: Sure 04:44:33 +1 04:44:38 I'll probably request tuanta to make his decision in the next meeting. 04:44:47 yes 04:44:53 thanks FranciscoD 04:45:28 all of you should nominate yourself by putting your name into the ticket #79 04:45:31 #action maeniel udinnet Suresht nangthang *everyone*: if you're interested in helping with budgets, please volunteer with a comment on ticket 79 04:45:52 #info Decision for tuanta 's helper with budgets to be made in next meeting 04:45:58 ! 04:46:00 #action tuanta decide who he wants as the helper 04:46:01 Suresht: go 04:46:02 +1 04:46:03 sorry i was over the phone call. 04:46:04 eof 04:46:26 Suresht: no worries, please scroll up and read what we talked about. Nothing too important really :) 04:46:39 FranciscoD: you are wrong :) 04:46:39 thanks FranciscoD :) 04:46:45 tuanta: I guess we can handle 78 after 79? 04:46:46 all are important 04:46:50 tuanta: lol :) 04:47:15 FranciscoD: #78 should be discussed later 04:47:16 People we only have 13 mis left ;) 04:47:28 s/mis/mins 04:47:46 udinnet: yep, but we have no more trac tickets to discuss from what I can see ;) 04:47:58 any more ticket owners here? 04:48:05 * FranciscoD doesn't think so 04:48:09 So open floor then? 04:48:15 oh, so we done all 04:48:16 I'll wait a minute for folks 04:48:33 * udinnet looks around 04:48:43 ! 04:48:58 maeniel: go 04:49:05 my friends, I have to go a bit earlier today! 04:49:13 so, see you all later 04:49:21 I was thinking of attempting a f19 release with the local tlug as my first try 04:49:21 tuanta: have a good weekend :) 04:49:29 maeniel: sounds good :) 04:49:30 Tusn, thank you and see you soon. Bye 04:49:31 tuanta: bye :) 04:49:31 ;) 04:49:34 bye tuanta 04:49:37 thanks, bye 04:49:43 bye tuanta 04:49:48 maeniel: whose your mentor? Have you begun discussing this event with him/her? 04:49:51 #topic open floor 04:50:24 kaio and no i haven't 04:50:50 Will quite happily send him a mail to see how I go about it 04:51:02 +1` 04:51:03 maeniel: ah, OK. We look forward to hearing more about the event. Please mail the list or anyone of us if you need help with it. 04:51:19 #info maeniel planning an event. More details to come. 04:51:20 ? 04:51:30 #info maeniel is being mentored by kaio 04:51:31 dramsey: go 04:51:39 After Fedora 19, a grand lug Release Event with F20!!! eof 04:51:45 +! 04:51:48 er +1 04:51:56 any thing else to discuss folks? 04:52:00 * FranciscoD scrolls up 04:52:10 happy starwars day :P 04:52:19 :D 04:52:22 #maythe4thbewithyou :P 04:52:37 XD 04:52:52 #info Happy star wars day! #maythe4thbewithyou 04:52:59 hahaha 04:53:01 Thank you all for attending and Ankur chairing this forward meeting. 04:53:02 ;) 04:53:04 ? 04:53:05 #action KageSenshi to buy everyone light sabers ;) 04:53:07 dramsey: go 04:53:10 lolol 04:53:19 Linux Foundation at end of May 04:53:20 http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-japan 04:53:26 May 29-31 04:53:29 sounds good. Will you be going dramsey ? 04:53:35 Good question. 04:53:38 and would you need funding? You know the drill :P 04:53:39 * KageSenshi gives away some fluorescent lightbulbs 04:53:46 I am considering and I would ponder a yo-ho. 04:53:48 ;) 04:53:49 eof 04:53:57 KageSenshi: any progress with the apac community card? 04:53:58 +1 funding eof 04:54:08 I have to go, although I would like to stay. Thanks everyone! 04:54:08 I forgot to ask tuanta about this :/ 04:54:14 FranciscoD, none .. no response from cwickert after my last reply 04:54:20 maeniel: no worries. Have a good weekend. 04:54:26 KageSenshi: hrm, OK 04:54:26 maeniel, thank you. bye 04:54:45 ! 04:54:47 #action FranciscoD bring up apac community credit card with tuan and cwickert whenever possible 04:54:50 udinnet: go 04:54:55 FranciscoD : Thanks, you too 04:55:07 I would like to chair the next meeting :) FranciscoD ? dramsey ? 04:55:13 i have to sign out now, see u in the next meeting 04:55:17 udinnet: aha! Great! sure! 04:55:23 #info udinnet to chair next meeting 04:55:29 bye nangthang 04:55:40 lets close the meeting, if we have nothing else to discuss? 04:55:54 #info meeting time 55 minutes 04:55:56 :) 04:55:58 Closing in 5 04:56:00 Closing in 4 04:56:00 ;) 04:56:02 Closing in 3 04:56:03 Closing in 2 04:56:03 :) 04:56:05 Closing in 1 04:56:05 See you all in two weeks. 04:56:06 bye 04:56:07 +1 04:56:10 Closing in 0.4512 04:56:11 cya :D 04:56:12 May 18ths.... 04:56:13 :D 04:56:16 8-) 04:56:23 Suresht: can you please send out the logs again? ;) 04:56:36 FranciscoD: ok 04:56:40 thanks :) 04:56:41 :) 04:56:48 #action Suresht send out logs to lists 04:56:52 #endmeeting