01:00:13 <inode0> #startmeeting FAmNA
01:00:13 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 24 01:00:13 2013 UTC.  The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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01:00:15 <inode0> #meetingname FAmNA
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01:00:24 <inode0> #topic Roll Call
01:00:43 <inode0> I get bounced a lot lately so if that happens someone grab the reins please.
01:00:46 * rbergeron is here
01:00:52 * dan408 is here
01:00:53 <rbergeron> inode0: want to share the chair?
01:00:53 <wrnash1> is here
01:01:00 <inode0> #chair rbergeron kk4ewt dan408 wrnash1
01:01:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: dan408 inode0 kk4ewt rbergeron wrnash1
01:01:56 * rbergeron looks around for moar humans
01:03:12 <inode0> #topic Announcements
01:03:46 * inode0 looks around
01:04:08 <dan408> Fedora 19 is alpha
01:04:16 <kk4ewt> f19 Alpha has been released
01:04:40 <inode0> flock has irc channels, wiki pages, mailing lists - so everyone can either keep up or get lost
01:04:47 <kk4ewt> f18 updated lives 20130416 have neem released
01:04:57 <kk4ewt> been
01:05:25 <dan408> compiz + mate spin almost through final approval
01:06:37 <inode0> ok, tonight I'd like to wade through 4 upcoming events to see what we can approve and how we can otherwise help out with them
01:06:49 <inode0> https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:07:06 <inode0> .famnaticket 50
01:07:08 <zodbot> inode0: #50 (LinuxFest NorthWest 2013, Apr 27-28, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/50
01:07:15 <dan408> shouldn't you change the topic? :)
01:07:33 <inode0> I should do lots of things I forget to do
01:07:39 <dan408> dont we all
01:07:42 <rbergeron> Soooooo. Since I live on another planet, I thought this event was another week away, until I realized otherwise on saturday.
01:07:44 <inode0> #topic Events
01:07:51 <rbergeron> I think i do it the most. Just pass me the award for senility now.
01:08:21 <dan408> rbergeron: can we just forgive and forget?
01:08:27 <rbergeron> Anyway: I have media and swag and what not. What I don't have are a tablecloth or banners. I do'nt really need the west coast box given its... well. Emptyishness, at lesat last i checked.
01:08:27 <inode0> so not much info in the ticket, is it all ready to go?
01:08:34 <rbergeron> dan408: I forgot already what we are talking about.
01:08:39 <dan408> me too
01:08:41 <rbergeron> inode0: no, I need to put things in the ticket.
01:08:57 <dan408> rbergeron: vwbusguy has our tablecloth and banners
01:09:09 <rbergeron> Max was sending me an address to where I could ship things, so I need to just ... pluck that out.
01:09:27 <rbergeron> honestly I could probably even live without banners, but tablecloth would be lovely.
01:09:28 <inode0> yes and he said in another ticket he would send those to TXLF so you might want to catch him ASAP
01:09:39 <rbergeron> ooh. okay
01:09:50 <rbergeron> texas is ... next month isn't it? june?
01:10:02 <inode0> last day of May, first day of June
01:10:33 <rbergeron> okay, i will beep at him.
01:10:36 <rbergeron> and update the ticket.
01:11:05 <inode0> .famnaticket 56
01:11:06 <zodbot> inode0: #56 (Indiana LinuxFest) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/56
01:11:11 <rbergeron> I have all the other things though. :)
01:11:13 * masta is here
01:11:17 <dan408> hey masta
01:11:36 <inode0> another not very busy ticket but I know that Andrew has asked that we sponsor ILF for $500
01:11:37 <masta> sry I got all distracted hacking something
01:12:01 <masta> which ticket are we on?
01:12:06 <rbergeron> ILF
01:12:11 <kk4ewt> wb award3535
01:12:20 <rbergeron> inode0: is there an event page and all that already?
01:12:21 <kk4ewt> we are on ILF
01:12:37 * rbergeron has no issue with sponsoring it
01:12:46 <award3535> sorry ding this from the phone
01:13:02 <inode0> my only issue is the ILF website is about as empty as the ticket
01:13:13 <dan408> i think i made that point last week
01:13:20 <inode0> http://www.indianalinux.org/
01:13:33 <dan408> attendance was discussed
01:13:37 <inode0> this really makes me wonder if this event will happen
01:13:58 <award3535> not much to report on ILF yet been asking lots of questions from event planners
01:13:59 <dan408> award3535 if you would like to remind inode0 and rbergeron of attendance last year
01:14:18 <dan408> and remind ILF to update their website? :)
01:15:09 <masta> looks like a nice startup linux fest... we could help them with sponsorship... looks like they could use all the help they can get.
01:15:18 <rbergeron> well
01:15:19 <dan408> +1 masta
01:15:23 <inode0> We know it has been a smallish event in the past - I don't care about that so much as the late organization
01:15:24 <award3535> this is 3rd ILF planned I dont know who attended previously
01:15:28 <rbergeron> they've been doing this for ... 2, 3 years now?
01:15:33 <dan408> yep
01:15:56 <award3535> sorry phone is slow
01:15:57 <kk4ewt> i attended the first one with pascal
01:16:13 <dan408> jds2001:10:45 <award3535> 3 to 5 hundred
01:16:25 <dan408> from last weeks logs
01:16:26 <kk4ewt> they had about 500 attendees at that time
01:16:43 <dan408> not bad for a startup
01:16:45 <inode0> their website says they have zero this time :)
01:17:05 <dan408> we discussed this
01:17:12 <dan408> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-04-17/famna.2013-04-17-01.01.log.html
01:17:17 <dan408> for the senile
01:17:20 <dan408> and for the forgiven
01:17:24 <inode0> we know dan408
01:17:27 <dan408> k
01:17:31 <masta> yeah they should do something about the website.... based on what I see there I'm kinda iffy on this one, but if kk4ewt and others say they have a few hundred... that is good by me
01:17:38 <inode0> we will discuss it more than once
01:17:40 <award3535> i have been in contact with their planners same ind as ohio LF
01:17:44 <dan408> inode0: oh ok
01:18:01 <inode0> beth?
01:18:45 <kk4ewt> masta they had 500 when i attended the first one
01:18:47 <rbergeron> if we want to wait a week or two to see if they make any movement, i don't think there's anything wrong with that - pending a CFP, or etc
01:19:01 <inode0> I'm probably ok with sponsoring this but I don't want to be the only sponsor so would like to wait a bit
01:19:08 <award3535> yes as i find out more about ILF will get word out
01:19:08 <masta> +1 rbergeron (waitting a week)
01:19:12 <rbergeron> inode0: i don't think beth is doing olf anymore
01:19:19 <rbergeron> could be wrong though
01:19:20 <masta> I think the website people need a friendly nudge
01:19:29 <dramsey> :D
01:20:12 <masta> who wants to wait a week, can I have a +1 ?
01:20:17 <award3535> plus one for me
01:20:19 <kk4ewt> +1
01:20:38 <inode0> +1 to a week or more
01:20:52 <wrnash1> +1
01:21:02 <masta> ok then, it's agreed
01:21:02 <dan408> +1
01:21:22 <inode0> generally we seem inclined to help out, would just like to see something indicating we aren't alone
01:21:36 * masta is sending the website a friendly nudge right now
01:21:49 <inode0> .famnaticket 58
01:21:52 <zodbot> inode0: #58 (Texas Linux Fest 2013, May 31 - June 1, Austin TX) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/58
01:21:54 <award3535> cool
01:22:27 <inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TXLF_2013
01:22:58 <inode0> budget request at the bottom although we are waiting for sponsorship details
01:24:02 <masta> hey that one is mine
01:24:15 <award3535> yes it is
01:24:17 <masta> so yea we just got this ticket made yesterday
01:24:54 <masta> Should be medium to big event... TXLF is organized by the same folks who do SELF I believe
01:24:58 * rbergeron is +1 to the budget for this, if we are anticipating that the sponsorship itself will cost more I am okay with that.
01:25:07 * inode0 doesn't think so
01:25:18 <rbergeron> masta: not really the same crew but there may be some cross-over
01:25:28 <rbergeron> but txlf has been certainly proving itself over the past few years
01:25:28 <inode0> TXLF and SELF are different groups
01:25:38 <masta> oh, I stand corrected
01:25:47 <award3535> media went fast last year at TLF
01:25:54 <inode0> It was a very nice event last year and I heard the same about previous years
01:26:21 <rbergeron> inode0: what's the deal with "waiting for sponsorship details" ?
01:26:23 <rbergeron> not sure on cost or ?
01:26:27 <award3535> four hundred the first day another fifty the second day
01:26:52 <inode0> They say to ask about details so I did once I knew I was going, which was just a couple days ago.
01:27:18 <rbergeron> so we're not sure if $500 is correct at this point?
01:27:29 <inode0> We gave them $500 last year, so I'm assuming that number.
01:27:32 <rbergeron> okay
01:27:51 <inode0> hopefully they will ping me back soon
01:28:16 * rbergeron moves that we approve the budget as is, so people can get moving on their travel details; if we need to revisit the sponsorship cost we can. budget is at ~$1400 right now
01:28:20 <masta> do you have a contact, or going through the web-form ?
01:28:35 <award3535> sorry to miss TLF this year was a great time
01:28:36 <masta> +1 approve
01:28:49 <inode0> I have nothing but an email address to send a request to?! Is there more I missed?
01:29:22 <masta> I feel weird givign a +1 to my own event so somebody else, plz +1 if you care
01:29:31 <kk4ewt> +1
01:29:45 <award3535> plus one
01:30:19 <wrnash1> +1
01:30:37 <inode0> ok, thanks and we'll forge ahead with it
01:30:38 <rbergeron> #agreed budget approved ~$1400 for TXLF; revisit sponsorship details if needed once more is known
01:30:51 <inode0> .famnaticket 54
01:30:53 <zodbot> inode0: #54 (Southeast Linux Fest Budget) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/54
01:32:00 <rbergeron> YAY SELF
01:32:07 <inode0> My understanding is that the booth is done and the rest is unknown to me
01:32:18 <award3535> i cant see the ticket
01:32:32 <award3535> speakers ?
01:32:39 <inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2013
01:32:55 <award3535> no info provided that i see
01:33:04 <inode0> there is info there
01:33:22 <award3535> ok
01:33:39 <award3535> limited on the smart phone
01:33:54 <inode0> speakers haven't been announced but there are some Fedora people on the list, I don't recall how many
01:34:58 <award3535> ok i believe kk4wrt is bringing media, no word on event box and banners
01:35:18 <rbergeron> I think he usually brings them in his car
01:35:25 <award3535> will create ticket for those
01:35:26 <inode0> This event is a no brainer to support strongly and I am comfortable approving the requested ~1500 tonight with the understanding there may be additional funding.
01:35:28 <kk4ewt> wellit looks like mario has probable left the country
01:35:37 <dan408> lol
01:35:51 <rbergeron> kk4ewt: with banners and event box?
01:36:08 <inode0> he would have left those at home if he didn't get a shipping label
01:36:15 <kk4ewt> at his house but he is out of the country
01:36:19 <inode0> but he'll be away for 2 months or something
01:36:32 <dan408> i think he tried to get them out to someone before he left
01:36:35 <kk4ewt> he had messaged me and said he was sending them but i never saw them
01:36:55 <inode0> oh, maybe they'll show up then
01:36:57 <award3535> nb has my address can ship to me
01:37:17 <kk4ewt> so i thought that nb had down the labels and then by the time i contacted nb he said he hadnt so i sent labels
01:37:20 <inode0> we don't have access to them if they are still at Mario's
01:37:56 <inode0> all we can do it wait and see and plan to break in the midwest event box as needed
01:38:04 <rbergeron> well, we have 1.5 other event boxes, so let's not totally panic
01:38:10 <dan408> lol
01:38:16 <kk4ewt> inode0:  exactly and ship the banners
01:38:49 <award3535> where are we shipping to?
01:38:55 <kk4ewt> award3535:  to me
01:39:10 <kk4ewt> one shipping to me is cheaper business
01:39:12 <inode0> ok, the banners can go LFNW->TXLF->SELF->ILF
01:39:19 <award3535> roger kk4ewt
01:39:28 <dan408> ooh hockey game time
01:39:32 <kk4ewt> inode0:  exactly
01:39:47 <inode0> the event box will be needed at TXLF and can ship from there to you
01:39:55 <rbergeron> can someone hook me up with the label to get banners to TXLF this week?
01:39:59 <kk4ewt> award3535:  we wont have a "tablecloth" but we will be in good shape
01:40:12 <dan408> rbergeron: you could have vwbusguy ship them out?
01:40:18 <inode0> that can go with the banners I think
01:40:21 <rbergeron> i doubt thomas wants to carry them manually
01:40:23 <kk4ewt> rbergeron:  get me to: and From: and it will happen
01:40:29 <award3535> roger kk4ewt
01:41:32 <rbergeron> is the to: part for TXLF in the ticket, anyone know offhand?
01:41:51 <inode0> stuff can be sent to masta for TXLF
01:42:07 <rbergeron> inode0: thanks, will sync with him on that
01:43:21 <inode0> anything else for SELF tonight? Did you approve the $1500 currently in the budget?
01:43:30 <inode0> you or we?
01:44:33 <kk4ewt> does 1500 do it?
01:44:34 <inode0> If everyone here is going that makes it a little awkward I guess
01:44:43 <inode0> We can add more later
01:44:46 <dan408> im not going if it makes you feel better
01:45:11 <inode0> dan408: if you +1 the budget it makes me feel better, if not it doesn't help
01:45:15 <dan408> +1
01:45:16 <rbergeron> let's start with $1500 and go from there
01:45:20 <dan408> can we move on now?
01:45:24 <masta> +1
01:45:27 <kk4ewt> +1
01:45:32 <award3535> plus one
01:45:48 <dan408> plooooooos juan!
01:45:53 <rbergeron> #agreed approved budget of $1500 for SELF; will/can increase as needed
01:46:48 <dan408> yay
01:46:55 <inode0> #topic Open Floor
01:47:00 <dan408> !
01:47:07 <dan408> rbergeron: are we doing puppetconf?
01:47:26 <dan408> EOF
01:47:52 <inode0> are you wearing a tuxedo too?
01:47:54 <award3535> gotto go everyone have a great evening
01:47:55 <rbergeron> dan408: it looks that way. some folks inside red hat want to sponsor it with $, asked if we wanted the Fedora name on it, I said "sure" - so waiting to hear back a final confirmation
01:48:05 <dan408> rbergeron: im down
01:48:14 <dan408> rbergeron: good times last year
01:48:25 <dan408> rbergeron: ill create the ticket and cc you
01:48:32 <dan408> and quaid
01:49:14 <rbergeron> dan408: it is at the gold level so I think we get 4 passes. also: lh said she'd make the event page out of the kindness of her heart since she is the one wrangling the payment and making the case for fedora to get the (free for us!) love
01:49:30 <dan408> rbergeron: aww that is really nice of her!
01:49:33 <dan408> +1 +1
01:49:44 <rbergeron> i have also heard we may have a very nice but as of now unannounced keynote speaker there
01:49:56 <dan408> and a nice place to sit?
01:50:15 <rbergeron> She was angling to get us next to the beer station. Which apparently will be on all day. :)
01:50:29 <dan408> ack
01:50:35 <rbergeron> but that's all I've got on that.
01:50:41 <dan408> nuff said
01:51:06 <dan408> got it
01:51:07 <dan408> gold
01:51:12 <dan408> creating the ticket
01:51:14 <rbergeron> I also reached out to the devopsdays folks (devopsdays.org) about the event in mountain view in june, so will see about tht. I think it would be good; I am going to the event in austin coming up soon so will have a better idea after that if it's worthwhile.
01:51:26 <dan408> okay so you doing the contact and etc stuff?
01:51:42 <dan408> i will be there with f18 media.. i mean f19
01:51:44 <rbergeron> dan408: leslie is, at least the financial details and whatnot.
01:51:48 <dan408> k
01:51:51 <inode0> One more thing - I did ask Scott to get us about 1k Fedora pencils, blame me but they are very inexpensive and I want the props.
01:51:52 <dan408> i have her number
01:52:02 <dan408> pencils?
01:52:47 <inode0> yes, not to be confused with laptop bags
01:52:47 <rbergeron> I think pencils sound lovely. Thank you for taking hte initiative :)
01:52:56 <dan408> sharpeners too?
01:52:58 <dan408> included?
01:53:09 <rbergeron> we use knives around here to sharpen pencils
01:53:09 <dan408> :)
01:53:12 <dan408> oh ok
01:53:19 <dan408> maybe you could teach me how to do that one day
01:53:22 <dan408> and build a fire
01:53:39 <kk4ewt> dan408:  that would be my job
01:53:43 <inode0> last call, any other business?
01:53:43 <dan408> do we have fedora knives too?
01:53:56 <dan408> nah
01:53:59 <rbergeron> that would be awesome, but no.
01:54:00 <inode0> you don't want to get me started talking about knives
01:54:02 <rbergeron> inode0: i have nothing else
01:54:12 <dan408> +1
01:54:17 <dan408> hockey time
01:54:19 <dan408> good night all
01:54:23 <inode0> ok, thanks everyone for coming tonight
01:54:28 <rbergeron> inode0: thanks for driving
01:54:30 <inode0> #endmeeting