04:00:31 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting Fedora APAC meeting 2013-04-20
04:00:31 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Apr 20 04:00:31 2013 UTC.  The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
04:00:31 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
04:00:37 <dramsey> :D
04:00:42 <FranciscoD> #meetingname Fedora APAC meeting 2013-04-20
04:00:42 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_apac_meeting_2013-04-20'
04:00:47 <dan408> halp!
04:00:49 <FranciscoD> #chair dramsey tuanta
04:00:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD dramsey tuanta
04:00:59 <FranciscoD> #topic init process
04:01:03 <udinnet> .fas
04:01:03 <zodbot> udinnet: (fas <query>) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match.
04:01:07 <FranciscoD> .fas ankursinha
04:01:07 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com>
04:01:08 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:01:11 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:01:11 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
04:01:12 <udinnet> .fas udinnet
04:01:14 <Suresht> .fas suresht
04:01:17 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
04:01:20 <zodbot> udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' <udithabnd@gmail.com>
04:01:23 <zodbot> Suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' <sureshp8@gmail.com>
04:01:41 * FranciscoD waits a minute for any late comers
04:02:11 <FranciscoD> OK. Moving on.
04:02:19 <dan408> taunta just came online
04:02:24 <FranciscoD> #info agenda #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-04-20#Agenda
04:02:29 <FranciscoD> tuanta: he's here already :)
04:02:36 * masta lurks
04:02:41 <tuanta> :)
04:02:44 <FranciscoD> Please open up the agenda, we'll mark off items as we go through it.
04:02:47 <dan408> ah
04:03:19 <FranciscoD> As always, please wait your turn to speak: !, ? to request a turn, eof when done
04:03:24 <FranciscoD> #topic Announcements
04:03:35 <FranciscoD> Does any one have any announcements to make?
04:04:13 <FranciscoD> Fedora Alpha should be out soon, as far as I remember. All testing will be appreciated.
04:04:24 <dramsey> +1
04:04:39 <FranciscoD> Do remember that the debug kernels are on at the moment, and your system will feel sluggish in general
04:05:03 <FranciscoD> #info F19 Alpha in place. All testing appreciated.
04:05:22 <FranciscoD> If no other announcements, I'll move to the next item on the agenda
04:05:25 * FranciscoD waits 30 seconds before moving in
04:05:28 <FranciscoD> s/in/on/
04:05:38 <udinnet> yup
04:05:40 <FranciscoD> tuanta: anything from famsco?
04:05:45 <inode0> Flock to NA this August :)
04:06:04 <FranciscoD> inode0: aha! Why's that? FUDCon?
04:06:24 <inode0> Flock is the thing replacing FUDCon
04:06:34 <inode0> So lame play on words
04:06:39 <FranciscoD> lol
04:06:52 <FranciscoD> I was not aware of "Flock". What list is this being discussed on inode0 ?
04:07:04 <Suresht> fyi http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/flock-planning/
04:07:11 <dramsey> +1
04:07:14 <FranciscoD> we have a new list?
04:07:24 <inode0> and flockinfo and the sort of announcement was on fudcon-planning
04:07:45 <dramsey> ?
04:07:49 <FranciscoD> dramsey: go
04:07:52 <dramsey> Flock location.  eof
04:08:08 <FranciscoD> inode0: would you know ^?
04:08:10 <inode0> Likely Charleston, SC but not definite quite yet
04:08:26 <dramsey> +1
04:08:56 <FranciscoD> #task APAC general: read and stay up to date on "Flock"
04:09:19 <FranciscoD> #action APAC general: read and stay up to date on "Flock"
04:09:29 <FranciscoD> Okay, good to know. Moving on
04:09:50 <Suresht> FranciscoD: flock will be expecting ppl from around the world but it's limited.
04:09:51 <FranciscoD> #topic Review action items from last meeting
04:10:19 <FranciscoD> Suresht: we'll have to see about flock :)
04:10:23 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-04-20#Review_action_items_from_last_meeting
04:10:32 <FranciscoD> #info Not sure how up to date these action items are
04:11:10 <FranciscoD> I'm leaving ticket 70 for the time being. Will discuss it under trac tickets
04:11:12 <udinnet> #chair Suresht udinnet
04:11:14 <udinnet> :)
04:11:29 <FranciscoD> #chair Suresht udinnet
04:11:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD Suresht dramsey tuanta udinnet
04:11:44 <FranciscoD> #info tuanta to bring Regional budget for FY2014 to FAmSCo meeting then report back to APAC in the next meeting  -> already done
04:12:07 <tuanta> !
04:12:11 <FranciscoD> tuanta: go
04:12:16 <tuanta> current stage:
04:12:46 <tuanta> as you know, budget allocation is smaller than what we proposed
04:13:08 <tuanta> so you should update your proposal
04:13:22 <dramsey> +1
04:13:22 <tuanta> then I will bring those updates back to FAmSCo in the next meeting
04:13:26 <FranciscoD> #info: APAC please update budget proposals ASAP
04:13:31 <dramsey> ?
04:13:41 <FranciscoD> tuanta: eof?
04:14:08 <tuanta> I got updates from some of you
04:14:32 <tuanta> I need all of you who proposed budget plans to update
04:14:38 <tuanta> your proposals
04:14:42 <dramsey> +1
04:14:51 <FranciscoD> tuanta: I think we've sent *enough* reminders.
04:15:07 <tuanta> otherwise, I will have to deduct each items by 30%
04:15:22 <Suresht> pls share us with budget wiki page?
04:15:26 <FranciscoD> tuanta: I think that's fair enough
04:15:26 <tuanta> okie, I will do the *automatic* solution :)
04:15:41 <tuanta> eof
04:15:53 <FranciscoD> Suresht: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/72
04:16:18 <Suresht> thanks FranciscoD .
04:16:22 <FranciscoD> I'm surprised to see that the link is required, given that this has been under discussion for a while now ;)
04:16:28 <FranciscoD> dramsey: go, if you still have that question
04:16:33 <dramsey> deadline for updates feedback?  eof
04:17:24 <tuanta> :)
04:17:30 <FranciscoD> tuanta: I can't find the deadline on the trac ticket. Can you maybe comment, just stating "DEADLINE = yyyymmdd"?
04:17:45 <FranciscoD> So it's crystal clear to everyone?
04:17:52 <dramsey> +1
04:18:09 <FranciscoD> Otherwise you'll always have people making changes after the deadline saying "I didn't see the deadline, sorry"
04:18:30 <dramsey> +1
04:18:36 <FranciscoD> #info https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/72#comment:4 -> Tuan will make necessary changes to all budgets that are not updated by the deadline.
04:18:47 <tuanta> thanks
04:18:57 <tuanta> I will take this action
04:19:00 <FranciscoD> #action tuanta Comment on ticket mentioning the deadline
04:19:04 <FranciscoD> #undo
04:19:04 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Action object at 0xd985110>
04:19:13 <FranciscoD> #action tuanta Comment on ticket #72 mentioning the deadline
04:19:30 <FranciscoD> Next review item:
04:19:34 <FranciscoD> tuanta to open a new ticket to discuss more about organizing real get-something-done FADs in APAC
04:19:37 <tuanta> actually, deadline is over :)
04:19:49 <tuanta> +1 FranciscoD
04:19:51 <FranciscoD> tuanta: ah, really?
04:20:12 <FranciscoD> I suggest you comment, saying the deadline is over, and that you're going to go make changes. Even close the ticket maybe?
04:20:56 <FranciscoD> tuanta: about the get-something-done FADs ticket, I think you can do this once the budget is done?
04:21:11 <tuanta> yes, I will update the Budget wiki page myself
04:21:11 <FranciscoD> (You'll know the amount of funds you can use)
04:21:21 <dramsey> +1
04:21:25 <tuanta> yes, FranciscoD, we will push FAD toward
04:21:33 <dramsey> +1
04:21:49 <FranciscoD> #info Concentrate on FADs once the budget is finalized
04:21:53 <tuanta> any updates from Christoph?
04:22:24 <FranciscoD> tuanta: none to me. He's probably busy. Doesn't matter, we'll think up something ourselves once we start working on FADs.
04:22:49 <tuanta> +1
04:22:56 <dramsey> +1
04:23:07 <FranciscoD> #info Utilize FADs to increase APAC contribution to non ambassador teams
04:23:15 <Suresht> +1
04:23:18 <FranciscoD> Moving on to trac tickets
04:23:23 <FranciscoD> #topic Trac tickets
04:23:49 <FranciscoD> #info All tickets that need to be discussed at meetings MUST have the meeting keyword attached to them
04:23:52 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9
04:24:12 <FranciscoD> Starting with #76
04:24:14 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/76
04:25:05 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nangthang/Fedora_Meetup_Danang_Apr_2013
04:25:11 <tuanta> yes, it's from Vietnam
04:25:23 <FranciscoD> nangthang: can you move the page from your user sub section to the main wiki?
04:25:33 <nangthang> .fas nangthang
04:25:33 <zodbot> nangthang: nangthang 'Thang Nguyen Nang' <thangnguyennang1988@gmail.com>
04:25:46 * FranciscoD checks if it's listed on the events page
04:26:38 <FranciscoD> Doesn't look like it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events?rd=FedoraEvents#FY13_Q1_.28March_2012_-_May_2012.29_4
04:26:45 <FranciscoD> nangthang: please add the event to this wiki page
04:26:51 <FranciscoD> These are mandatory pre-requisites :)
04:26:52 <dramsey> +1
04:26:59 <dan408> +1
04:27:10 <nangthang> FranciscoD: ok, i will move the wiki to other wiki page
04:27:23 <tuanta> +1
04:27:32 <FranciscoD> nangthang: great. The ticket says more people will attend. Can you list a few?
04:27:59 <FranciscoD> The wiki page mentions tuanta and you, currently
04:28:19 <FranciscoD> ah, and a few more folks. Okay.
04:28:25 <tuanta> yes, I support him as a mentor
04:28:28 * FranciscoD counts 4 folks
04:28:37 <FranciscoD> tuanta: Great :)
04:28:45 <FranciscoD> Let's vote then
04:29:23 <Suresht> reasonable +1 :) they have few more days
04:29:24 <FranciscoD> +1 from me. Looks like a great initiative from the Vietnam community. Tuan being the mentor makes me even more confident of the event's success
04:29:48 <FranciscoD> dramsey: udinnet : votes please?
04:30:23 <FranciscoD> tuanta: nangthang : can I trouble you folks to please mention the Fedora Join SIG in your talk on getting started with contributing to Fedora?
04:30:39 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG
04:30:40 <tuanta> good idea
04:31:13 <dramsey> +1 from me.  ;)
04:31:21 <tuanta> +1 from me too
04:31:28 <FranciscoD> Okay, Thats a +4/-0: AGREED
04:31:37 <nangthang> +1
04:31:47 <FranciscoD> #info Ticket #76 APPROVED
04:31:50 <nangthang> thanks
04:32:06 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD update ticket with approval, assign to kital
04:32:16 <tuanta> yes, I am typing that :)
04:32:42 <FranciscoD> ticket #75 seems to be a duplicate
04:32:49 <FranciscoD> #info #75 duplicate of #76
04:32:54 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD close #75
04:33:06 <udinnet> Im sorry internet problem :(
04:33:14 <nangthang> im sorry
04:33:17 <udinnet> !
04:33:19 <FranciscoD> nangthang: no worries
04:33:20 <FranciscoD> udinnet: go
04:33:20 <tuanta> yes, #75should be cancelled
04:33:42 <udinnet> I added #74 to page
04:33:46 <nangthang> I'll close the ticket #75
04:33:48 <Suresht> yea #75 was copy of original
04:33:52 <FranciscoD> udinnet: to what page?
04:34:18 <FranciscoD> udinnet: it isn't on report 9. Was a meeting keyword added?
04:34:42 * FranciscoD refreshes
04:34:43 <udinnet> Yes
04:34:47 <FranciscoD> Ok. It's there now.
04:34:53 <dramsey> ;)
04:34:55 <FranciscoD> Please do it in advance from next time though
04:35:13 <udinnet> Im sorry it is so hard to type letters from mobile
04:35:27 <udinnet> I just added that
04:35:32 <FranciscoD> No worries
04:35:40 <FranciscoD> Next ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/74
04:36:06 <udinnet> I think the costs are pretty refined
04:36:26 <FranciscoD> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F18_University_of_Rajarata
04:36:33 <FranciscoD> udinnet: May I know who the target audience is?
04:36:47 <FranciscoD> The talks are on LVM, and r-pi.
04:36:51 <FranciscoD> Are these beginner level talks?
04:37:07 <udinnet> We,re planning to have around 200
04:37:19 <FranciscoD> udinnet: yes, but who are these 200 people?
04:37:25 <FranciscoD> New university students?
04:37:41 <udinnet> New and seniors :)
04:37:50 <udinnet> Most of the.
04:37:54 <FranciscoD> udinnet: what proportion of new/seniors do you expect in this 200?
04:38:26 <udinnet> Most of them will be seniors. 75 precent
04:38:35 <FranciscoD> Ok. Great.
04:38:39 <dramsey> +1
04:38:48 <udinnet> Talks will be medium level
04:38:48 <tuanta> sorry, It seems not planned in budget proposal?
04:39:02 <tuanta> I can not see it
04:39:41 <udinnet> I made the arrangement recently.
04:40:01 <FranciscoD> tuanta: I think you need to keep some budget aside for unplanned events..
04:40:09 <FranciscoD> by some, I mean, a lot, actually.
04:40:22 <tuanta> yes, sure. just for clarification
04:40:31 <FranciscoD> udinnet: some quirks that I wan't you to be aware of:
04:40:36 <FranciscoD> 1. "So there'll be a good potential to join lot of new contributors in to f.pro. ", but I don't see a talk on "Contribute to Fedora"
04:41:04 <udinnet> Yeah there will be more talks
04:41:24 <udinnet> Most of the time that talk will be delivered by buddhike
04:41:27 <Suresht> i was not involved this and i am far from this university but they had event in last year too.
04:41:27 <udinnet> ;)
04:41:29 <tuanta> also, it should be named as a Release Party because It's too far from a real release
04:42:00 <udinnet> He is quite busy these days
04:42:08 <FranciscoD> 2. How important is the food here? I cannot help but notice that the price of food is the most.
04:42:12 <tuanta> and, +1 FranciscoD, we should have a talk "How to contribute to Fedora" in all our event
04:42:15 <udinnet> Suresht: +1
04:42:22 <FranciscoD> tuanta: do we have some numbers on the average expenditure for a release party?
04:42:43 <DoverMo> probably should just buy chips
04:43:02 <FranciscoD> For example, mbuf's event, which is a much more advanced event is requiring about 300$. Is it fair to give a beginner level release party 400$?
04:43:07 <tuanta> it's about $150, FranciscoD
04:43:35 <udinnet> Okay we'll cut some amount from food
04:43:48 <FranciscoD> udinnet: is it possible to reduce the expenditure on food? It isn't that the funds aren't available, but we'd like to use them diligently.
04:43:51 <tuanta> but it depends on the event size a lot
04:43:53 <FranciscoD> I hope you understand what I mean.
04:44:21 <dramsey> +1 on event size and other comments.
04:44:47 <FranciscoD> tuanta: Yeah, it does. I still like DoverMo 's idea of just buying chips. After all, it is a release party, not a release dinner :)
04:44:50 <udinnet> Yes the main focus is SWAGS
04:45:12 <tuanta> :)
04:45:41 <FranciscoD> udinnet: the only swag that's listed there is stickers :/
04:45:59 <FranciscoD> You can increase the amount of money you need for swag, maybe give out the cheat cube or something?
04:45:59 <udinnet> I can adjust the costs no worries..
04:46:12 <dramsey> +1
04:46:20 <Suresht> +1
04:46:26 <FranciscoD> Okay, how about we just comment on this ticket for the time being, and we can approve it once all changes have been made?
04:46:34 <FranciscoD> tuanta: dramsey ^ what say?
04:46:54 <tuanta> yes, change it first
04:46:59 <dramsey> ;)
04:47:03 <tuanta> then we can back to review it
04:47:09 <dramsey> +1 comments as "meat" for data.
04:47:11 <dramsey> eof
04:47:23 <FranciscoD> #action udinnet Update ticket #74 with more detailed information
04:47:39 <FranciscoD> #info Approval for ticket #74 pending udinnet's updates
04:47:56 <udinnet> Sorry
04:48:09 <dramsey> ;)
04:48:11 <FranciscoD> Next ticket:
04:48:12 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/73
04:48:32 <FranciscoD> Another case of unplanned expenditure tuanta : https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/73#comment:1
04:48:45 <FranciscoD> This one really could not be helped though.
04:48:56 <tuanta> yes
04:49:06 <FranciscoD> It's an extra 95. Should be okay tuanta ?
04:49:39 <tuanta> I see It's reasonable
04:49:52 <FranciscoD> I think that brings the total for this event to 200 approx. The flights were 110 iirc.
04:50:19 <dramsey> +1
04:50:20 <FranciscoD> let's vote then
04:50:34 <Suresht> fine with me +1
04:50:39 <FranciscoD> +1 from me. It's a genuine request. mbuf's workshops are always great
04:50:44 <dramsey> +1
04:50:50 <udinnet> +1
04:50:51 <tuanta> yes, we approved $110 for flight
04:51:06 <Suresht> i always read his reports it's grate :)
04:51:10 <tuanta> then now $95 for hotel as well
04:51:13 <tuanta> +1 from me
04:51:19 <FranciscoD> okay
04:51:38 <FranciscoD> #info Ticket #73 APPROVED: +5/-0
04:51:53 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD to update ticket #73, assign to kital
04:52:19 <FranciscoD> Next ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/70
04:52:31 <FranciscoD> I don't know what to do about this ticket here in the meeting frankly
04:52:47 <FranciscoD> I'd rather bckurera started with a plan in the ticket and then people joined in
04:53:06 <FranciscoD> It lacks specific information at the moment :/
04:53:07 <dramsey> ?
04:53:09 <FranciscoD> dramsey: go
04:53:28 <dramsey> I hope to see others help manage budget, just in case people get busy.,
04:53:29 <dramsey> eof
04:53:43 <FranciscoD> +1
04:53:58 <FranciscoD> tuanta: would you have someone in mind who could maybe assist you with the budget?
04:54:24 <FranciscoD> (Always good to have a backup: not related to current ticket. Let's take it in open floor)
04:54:37 <FranciscoD> tuanta: you have time to think until open floor ;)
04:54:44 <FranciscoD> dramsey: anything on ticket 70?
04:54:48 <tuanta> I will update a new version then bring back to you
04:55:15 <FranciscoD> okay, anything on #70 tuanta, udinnet Suresht nangthang ?
04:55:23 <udinnet> !
04:55:25 <FranciscoD> udinnet: go
04:55:42 * FranciscoD notices that bckurera has been quite busy lately.
04:55:45 <udinnet> It seems #70 need some update *details*
04:55:58 <dramsey> +1
04:56:02 <dramsey> ?
04:56:07 <udinnet> yes Buddhike is busy with GSoC and some other stuff
04:56:08 <FranciscoD> dramsey: go
04:56:12 <udinnet> eof
04:56:12 <dramsey> Concur 100% with udin net on #70, eof
04:56:25 <FranciscoD> #info no decision to make on ticket 70
04:56:34 <tuanta> :)
04:56:40 <FranciscoD> I propose this ticket is moved off the meeting list until it's ready for a decision?
04:56:42 <Suresht> +1
04:56:43 <FranciscoD> tuanta: ^ ?
04:56:48 <dramsey> +1
04:57:24 <tuanta> +1 FranciscoD
04:57:24 <FranciscoD> We've clarified that meetings are *only* to take final decisions, not for any discussions. THis ticket requires a lot of discussion before it's ready IMO
04:57:46 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD comment on ticket 70 requesting updates.
04:57:58 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD remove ticket 70 from meeting list. It is not ready for any decision.
04:58:25 <FranciscoD> I don't think there are any other new tickets. The rest are just ones that have been there for ever :
04:58:37 <udinnet> Its almost an hour
04:58:37 <FranciscoD> If any one wants another ticket discussed from report 9, please bring it up
04:58:41 * FranciscoD waits a minute
04:58:53 <udinnet> s/an/a
04:58:59 <dramsey> ?
04:59:02 <FranciscoD> dramsey: gi
04:59:06 <FranciscoD> er "go"
04:59:07 <dramsey> I will have my April in order.
04:59:09 <dramsey> eof
04:59:22 <FranciscoD> Good to hear dramsey
04:59:25 <dramsey> +1
04:59:29 <FranciscoD> OK.
04:59:32 <FranciscoD> #topic Open floor
04:59:32 <dramsey> #77 eof
04:59:42 <FranciscoD> ah!
04:59:46 * FranciscoD pulls out 77
04:59:55 <dramsey> ?
05:00:03 <FranciscoD> dramsey: go
05:00:15 <dramsey> I made my first attempt at another set of events.  So my expenses are lowered for FY2014 budget\
05:00:18 <dramsey> eof
05:00:37 <FranciscoD> dramsey: does this ticket need to be decided on today?
05:00:45 <FranciscoD> There is no link to a wiki page
05:00:48 <dramsey> When ever is good
05:00:50 <dramsey> eof
05:00:57 <udinnet> !
05:00:59 <dramsey> Next meeting, May 04th?  eof
05:01:03 <FranciscoD> Then we'll discuss it next meeting. Yes
05:01:06 <dramsey> +1
05:01:09 <FranciscoD> if it's ready ;)
05:01:10 <FranciscoD> udinnet: go
05:01:31 <Suresht> dramsey: +1
05:01:37 <udinnet> For the #74 what will be the maximum budget that can allow
05:01:52 <udinnet> I've the adjust it according to it
05:01:58 <udinnet> tuanta: ?
05:02:11 <FranciscoD> udinnet: there isn't a hard limit. We can give up to 400 USD. However, we'll approve the budget once we feel the money is being spent correctly.
05:02:23 <udinnet> I'll cut down the food cost
05:02:33 <udinnet> Here is the thing
05:02:39 <FranciscoD> udinnet: maybe catch hold of Buddhike and discuss it with him properly.
05:02:50 <dramsey> +1
05:03:01 <tuanta> udinnet: if you see what we can support you more, bring them up
05:03:09 <udinnet> actually we planned it to be a large scale event.
05:03:28 <udinnet> But its less than a FAD
05:03:51 <udinnet> So there is no other option naming it as a Release Party
05:03:53 <udinnet> :)
05:04:00 <udinnet> That is the actual case
05:04:07 <dramsey> ?
05:04:11 <FranciscoD> dramsey: go
05:04:12 <tuanta> $200 of foods for 200 ppl is not much; but please consider how it effects to our community
05:04:13 <dramsey> Event?  eof
05:04:27 * FranciscoD notes that we are 4 minutes over our time
05:04:32 <dramsey> +1
05:04:43 <udinnet> Sri Lankan students are more in to linux now
05:05:02 <FranciscoD> udinnet: I agree, but I'm sure you don't need food to attract them to the event ;)
05:05:16 <tuanta> then we can focus on more effective activities. That's my thoughts
05:05:22 <udinnet> yeah I'll cut down that cost
05:05:25 <udinnet> ;)
05:05:30 <FranciscoD> Food should be an added bonus, if at all necessary. We generally hold workshops and give folks a lunch break to go eat what they will.
05:05:38 <dramsey> +1
05:05:46 <udinnet> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/lk-users/2013-April/000026.html
05:05:46 <FranciscoD> We cannot have a trend of feeding our audience.
05:05:46 <nangthang> +1
05:06:06 <dramsey> :p
05:06:12 <udinnet> this is a reply we got from Jaffna University
05:06:21 <FranciscoD> udinnet: Good to read. Does not change the stance on food though ;)
05:06:31 <udinnet> they also interested about the event
05:06:42 <DoverMo> would 200 wet-napkins be a good choice?
05:06:50 <FranciscoD> Anyway, I think we're moving into a discussion, which is forbidden during meetings.
05:06:52 <udinnet> I'm just explaining the situation.
05:06:56 <udinnet> ;D
05:07:08 <udinnet> Food is not a must
05:07:13 <udinnet> :)
05:07:23 <FranciscoD> Aye, update the ticket and we'll make a decision on it :)
05:07:28 <dramsey> +1
05:07:29 <FranciscoD> I'd really suggest you get more swag
05:07:44 <FranciscoD> swag attracts people, and markets fedora too
05:07:49 <dramsey> +1
05:07:54 <FranciscoD> food they just eat and well..
05:07:58 <Suresht> +1
05:07:59 <tuanta> yes, IMHO, it's better than food.
05:08:08 <dramsey> Food for thought
05:08:12 <FranciscoD> heh
05:08:18 <FranciscoD> Okay. Closing meeting in 5
05:08:19 <FranciscoD> 4
05:08:20 <DoverMo> i assume jokes aren't allowed >o>
05:08:21 <tuanta> dramsey: lol
05:08:22 <dramsey> :)  Thanks everyone for attending, Ankur for chairing and see you all in two weeks, May 06th.  :)
05:08:22 <dramsey> :D  Very happy to see good attendance and meeting.  :D  eof
05:08:35 <FranciscoD> Suresht: can I trouble you to please post the logs to the lists?
05:08:44 <dramsey> s/06/04
05:08:46 * FranciscoD has quite a few action items on his plate already
05:08:50 <Suresht> FranciscoD: yes sure :)
05:08:56 <FranciscoD> Great. Thanks
05:09:00 <dramsey> +1
05:09:02 <FranciscoD> #action Suresht send logs to mailing lists
05:09:10 <tuanta> thanks everyone
05:09:13 <tuanta> nice meeting
05:09:15 <FranciscoD> nangthang: Can I trouble you to ensure the agenda page is up to date with the log links?
05:09:16 <dramsey> +1
05:09:23 <tuanta> hope next ones would be better :)
05:09:29 <dramsey> +1
05:09:34 <nangthang> yes FranscisoD
05:09:44 <udinnet> Thanks guys for a great meeting
05:09:48 <FranciscoD> They're already there, but someone always needs to confirm it they are correct
05:09:51 <udinnet> ;)
05:09:52 <FranciscoD> nangthang: Great. Thanks
05:10:07 <FranciscoD> #action nangthang: Update agenda page, confirm links etc. are all correct.
05:10:08 <nangthang> nice meeting
05:10:13 <FranciscoD> OK. Closing now.
05:10:16 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting