01:01:18 <dan408> #startmeeting FAmNA
01:01:18 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 17 01:01:18 2013 UTC.  The chair is dan408. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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01:01:29 <dan408> #meetingname FAmNA
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01:01:36 <dan408> #topic Roll Call
01:01:43 * inode0 is here
01:01:50 <award3535> present
01:02:17 <dan408> #chair inode0 rbergeron award3535 chanchito kk4ewt j_dulaney
01:02:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 chanchito dan408 inode0 j_dulaney kk4ewt rbergeron
01:02:30 <dan408> who else is here
01:02:39 * j_dulaney waves
01:02:45 <dan408> hey j_dulaney
01:02:50 <chanchito> abraham lincoln, clothed in immense power!
01:03:02 * dan408 throws a chair at rbergeron
01:04:10 * nb is kind of here
01:04:18 * award3535 ready to go
01:04:20 <dan408> #chair nb
01:04:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 chanchito dan408 inode0 j_dulaney kk4ewt nb rbergeron
01:04:26 <dan408> 1 more minute
01:05:58 * j_dulaney is getting POed by USB drive
01:06:20 <award3535> USBs are mindless
01:06:21 <dan408> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:06:30 <dan408> #topic Tickets
01:07:08 <dan408> .famnaticket 50
01:07:09 <zodbot> dan408: #50 (LinuxFest NorthWest 2013, Apr 27-28, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/50
01:07:32 <inode0> sure skip announcements when I actually have one - we can come back to it
01:07:35 <dan408> i think there's nothing to really update on this
01:07:44 <dan408> inode0: let's just get through tickets asap
01:07:50 <dan408> .famnaticket 56
01:07:52 <zodbot> dan408: #56 (Indiana LinuxFest) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/56
01:08:07 <dan408> award3535 this is yours
01:08:12 <dan408> any update on this?
01:08:14 <award3535> did anyone attend last year
01:08:25 <award3535> this will be the first time there for me
01:08:25 <dan408> never heard of it tbqh
01:08:43 <inode0> I don't think Fedora went last year, but we did before that
01:08:44 <award3535> this was on the budget sheet and no one took it
01:08:49 <dan408> Attendees
01:08:49 <dan408> No one has signed up for this event. Attendees will appear as they sign up.
01:09:01 <dan408> let's punt this one for now
01:09:18 <dan408> plenty of time to plan
01:09:26 <award3535> sure just wanted to get it going, I will be going if we decide to take it on
01:09:27 <inode0> award3535: Ben went to it in the past
01:09:43 <award3535> I would be glad to run it
01:09:46 <dan408> sure
01:09:48 <dan408> well
01:09:54 <dan408> is it worth it
01:09:59 <dan408> because it has 0 attendees right now
01:10:03 <dan408> how many people actually go?
01:10:11 <dan408> or how many people went last year?
01:10:18 <inode0> how many Fedora people go isn't really the point
01:10:24 <award3535> I spoke with the coordinators and this is the 3rd year
01:10:26 <dan408> i didnt say "fedora people"
01:10:32 <dan408> award3535: what was attendance last year
01:10:40 <inode0> it will be greater than zero then
01:10:44 <dan408> yay
01:10:45 <award3535> 3 to 5 hundred
01:10:45 <dan408> 5 people
01:10:50 <dan408> award3535: okay
01:10:58 <dan408> you should probably cc suehle
01:11:06 <inode0> why?
01:11:17 <dan408> well are we going to sponsor the event?
01:11:24 <dan408> doesn't she have to approve that stuff?
01:11:34 <inode0> that is another question and no she doesn't need to approve anything
01:11:36 <dan408> or at least cut the check?
01:11:42 <dan408> okay
01:11:43 <award3535> I already forwarded some coorespondence to both suehle and rbergeron
01:11:48 <dan408> any reply?
01:12:19 <award3535> not yet, the event has not progressed any further yet
01:12:25 <dan408> k
01:12:26 <dan408> punt
01:12:34 <dan408> .famnaticket 54
01:12:35 <zodbot> dan408: #54 (Southeast Linux Fest Budget) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/54
01:12:38 <award3535> so far only one sponsor has signed up
01:12:54 <suehle> hi
01:13:00 <dan408> #chair suehle
01:13:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 chanchito dan408 inode0 j_dulaney kk4ewt nb rbergeron suehle
01:13:01 <dan408> hi suehle
01:13:11 <award3535> evening suehle
01:13:25 <chanchito> can the owner of the SELF send me their complete, correct address for shipping the event box and banners? please
01:13:37 <dan408> that would be kk4ewt
01:13:38 <suehle> For shipping the event box to SELF?
01:13:47 <chanchito> i would like to ship it immediately, i am flying to argentina this weekend and will be gone for a few months
01:14:00 <dan408> probably ship it to award3535
01:14:06 <chanchito> i am flying to rome and not stopping home in between
01:14:10 <dan408> if you need to ship it asap
01:14:12 <award3535> that is okay also
01:14:16 <chanchito> ok cool beans
01:14:24 <dan408> award3535 pm him your info
01:14:31 <award3535> yes send to me, roger
01:14:34 <suehle> on the earlier question, the quickest way to get a conference sponsorship paid is to email me (not the list) with the appropriate link or contract, say "the ambassadors approved sponsoring X" and I'll pay them
01:14:35 <chanchito> thx a million
01:14:35 <dan408> k
01:14:40 <nb> award3535, pm me your address to ship to
01:14:43 * inode0 would ship it to Ben or at least touch base with him first
01:14:47 <nb> chanchito, pm me the address you will shop from
01:14:56 <nb> or nevermind, do what inode0 suggested :)
01:15:06 <award3535> ben first me second
01:15:13 <dan408> suehle: and what about proposals? should those get voted on in the meeting first and then emailed to you after that?
01:15:26 <suehle> proposals for sponsorship?
01:15:39 <dan408> yes for new event sponsorships
01:15:48 <suehle> Unless you want to know if there's eleventy jillion dollars in the budget for you to spend, I don't need to know until you guys agree on it.
01:15:57 * inode0 is confused
01:15:57 <dan408> ack
01:16:20 <dan408> anything else on self?
01:16:30 <inode0> what are you wanting to sponsor?
01:16:40 <dan408> inode0: nothing right now. just asking.
01:16:40 <chanchito> so im shipping to ben instead?
01:16:50 <chanchito> back to ben at va-tech
01:16:58 <chanchito> OK cool beans
01:17:00 <chanchito> got it
01:17:02 <dan408> chanchito: coordinate with award3535 and give nb your ship from address via pm
01:17:09 <nb> dan408, wait
01:17:09 <chanchito> done
01:17:12 <dan408> ?
01:17:18 <nb> dan408, i am not sure if we are shipping to award3535 or to ben
01:17:26 <dan408> probably to ben
01:17:26 <nb> dan408, but i'll get with them after the meeting
01:17:34 <dan408> im just saying award3535 is available right now
01:17:35 <dan408> let's move on
01:17:58 <dan408> #topic announcements
01:18:18 <dan408> okay inode0
01:18:19 <inode0> "FUDCon" News - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2013-April/004420.html
01:18:34 <dan408> ooh
01:19:02 <dan408> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2013-April/004420.html
01:19:28 <inode0> I don't really have anything to say about it now, just want people to be aware of it.
01:19:39 <nb> #action nb to get chanchito a ups label to send event box and banners somewhere
01:19:59 <dan408> ok so what location are we talking?
01:20:12 <inode0> That mail says Charleston, SC.
01:20:22 <chanchito> we need a larger event box or smaller banners, FYI, for future reference, it's wasteful to keep shipping two items
01:20:32 <dan408> south carolina?
01:20:39 <suehle> No guarantee yet
01:20:42 <dan408> inode0: what makes you think i like south carolina?
01:20:46 <dan408> lol
01:20:52 <inode0> dan408: I don't
01:21:04 <j_dulaney> South Carolina is warmer than Kansas (or Blacksburg, or ...)
01:21:04 <award3535> SC a great place and I can make that one
01:21:07 <suehle> We're not positive we have the space yet.
01:21:20 <dan408> meh
01:21:21 <award3535> +1 for SC
01:21:21 <j_dulaney> And, it's only a few hours drive for me
01:21:33 <award3535> Ditto j_dulaney
01:21:47 <chanchito> SC works for me, much warmer than blacksburg and fat people cant fit in those student desks
01:21:52 <dan408> im -1
01:21:59 <award3535> believe a short trip for Ben
01:22:04 <chanchito> SC +1
01:22:24 <dan408> anyways im +1 for some info finally
01:22:41 <inode0> Time will tell if we like the sweltering heat better than the moderate temperatures in Lawrence :)
01:22:52 * nb is +0.  I don't really care what the location is.  Hopefully I will be able to go
01:23:01 <nb> but i like the idea of megafudcon
01:23:02 <dan408> nb: word to that
01:23:46 <inode0> This doesn't sound much like FUDCon so be aware there are a lot of planned changes
01:24:00 <dan408> i dont really see many changes here
01:24:04 <j_dulaney> inode0:  Sweltering?  Temps that time of year are at their most pleasant?
01:24:06 <chanchito> problem for me is the scheduling, january is almost impossible for me, wish we had fudcons during summer months
01:24:12 <j_dulaney> s/?/.
01:24:24 <inode0> j_dulaney: it is the 2nd hottest month
01:24:38 <inode0> which I admit might be pleasant to you
01:24:41 <award3535> Aug is good for me, if it is in SC I will make time
01:25:06 <dan408> so is this decided?
01:25:06 <award3535> in fact anytime in SC is good!
01:25:10 <dan408> like set in stone?
01:25:15 <suehle> Part of the goal was to get it closer to just after a release so that more planning and real work could be done.
01:25:17 <chanchito> agreed
01:25:17 <dan408> charleston, sc?
01:25:25 <award3535> +1
01:25:27 <suehle> dan408, more or less, as soon as we can get confirmation of the space
01:25:28 <chanchito> +1
01:26:03 <dan408> suehle: i really dont like the fact that no one from the community had a chance to propose any other alternative locations, but that's just my opinion
01:26:19 <chanchito> good points
01:26:22 <chanchito> she's right
01:26:27 <inode0> Since all four days are scheduled talks I'm not sure when work is getting done there?!
01:26:31 <dan408> she?
01:26:32 <chanchito> we should be fair and open and allow for additional suggestions
01:26:43 <dan408> when did i become a she?
01:26:53 <chanchito> not you, ruth
01:26:59 <chanchito> oops sorry
01:27:01 <suehle> dan408, sparks has expressed that problem too. In short, a)the bid process has gotten us one location at best for several years running (and resulted in no FUDCon occasionally in other geos) and b)because we had to wait so long to find out if we had budget and wanted to do it in this time frame, there just wasn't the opportunity for the usual drawn out bid  process.
01:27:02 <chanchito> yes you
01:27:07 <suehle> We intend to have two hackfest days on the end.
01:27:09 <chanchito> sorry dan
01:27:55 <award3535> and due to the sucess of SELF it would be smart to draw that crowd also
01:27:58 <dan408> suehle: well my issue was trying to decide whether or not to try to get my company to pay for me to go to rh summit or not, and when/where fudcon would be, obviously i would rather go to a fudcon
01:28:24 <chanchito> i like a centralized location to allow every to travel about the same distance, as long as we are all spread out pretty evenly across the USA, if not the highest area of concentration should get some priority
01:28:35 * j_dulaney needs to reboot
01:28:38 <dan408> anyways
01:28:51 <dan408> it seems pretty decided and i hope your venue comes through
01:28:57 * j_dulaney decides to wait until download is done
01:28:59 <suehle> From the perspective of the budget, the location that gets us as many Fedorans in one place as possible gets the priority. :)
01:29:11 <dan408> if not let me know, i was willing to do work to find one on my side of the country
01:29:21 <suehle> chanchito, we also intend to bring in the EMEA folks for this when you're talking about geography
01:29:21 * j_dulaney notes that Charleston has CSS H. L. Hunley
01:29:29 <chanchito> exactly, more than likely where the highest concentration is, the more likely people are to travel closer
01:29:30 * j_dulaney would have a nerdgasm seeing that.
01:29:39 <chanchito> aaaah
01:29:40 <suehle> dan408, I assure you, we've been through a lot of locations. It was very nearly San Jose.
01:29:40 <chanchito> OK
01:29:47 <chanchito> i did not figure in EMEA
01:29:52 <dan408> suehle: why didnt anyone contact me?
01:29:55 <dan408> i kind of live here.
01:30:01 <suehle> dan408, a lot of people live there
01:30:05 <award3535> San Jose to far for me
01:30:14 <suehle> We had a place, and it fell through. We are in a serious time crunch situation now.
01:30:16 <dan408> suehle: i could get you a venue in san jose easily.
01:30:25 <suehle> End of it: Nowhere is going to make everybody happy.
01:30:35 <chanchito> true
01:30:35 <award3535> +1
01:30:36 <dan408> just letting you know for next time
01:30:48 <dan408> i have extensive experience throwing events
01:30:56 <chanchito> i just want a warm location and not in january, unless it can be in the south-soutwest
01:31:02 <dan408> something not known about me to other fedorans
01:31:05 * nb thinks we should move on
01:31:08 <dan408> yep
01:31:10 <suehle> chanchito, I'm with you. :)
01:31:25 <dan408> any other announcements?
01:31:50 <chanchito> who travels in january?  mukties searching for blubber, hunting in the aleutians
01:32:07 <award3535> Please update the SELF page if you are planning on attending, I will need a little help with the booth
01:32:13 <suehle> award3535, +!
01:32:18 <suehle> +1 and ! :D
01:32:31 <j_dulaney> award3535:  I will likely spend much of my time in the booth
01:32:44 <dan408> #topic open floor
01:32:51 <dan408> go
01:32:51 <suehle> And if you are planning on going to SELF and want your badge to be a sponsor badge, I need to let them know, so if you're not already listed on the SELF page, do so
01:32:59 <award3535> Yeah! please fill it in j_dulaney
01:33:26 <award3535> suehle: did you receive my reply to the email?
01:33:53 <j_dulaney> suehle:  I'm still not sure if I have a roomy for SELF
01:34:14 <j_dulaney> suehle:  Ben said I may be able to crash with him
01:34:25 <j_dulaney> suehle:  I can't book a room due to lack of credit card.
01:36:25 <suehle> award3535, yes
01:36:48 <suehle> j_dulaney, I assume your travel was approved based on a roommate, so my best suggestion is finding one. :)
01:37:00 <award3535> suehle thank you..
01:37:06 <j_dulaney> suehle:  My travel has not been approved
01:37:11 <nb> FWIW don't we usually fund people anyway if they are willing to have a roommate but we don't have one for them?
01:37:14 <nb> or not?
01:37:53 * j_dulaney does need to edit his sponsorship ticket, however, to subtract a day
01:38:11 * j_dulaney assumed arriving Thurs would be a good idea, but now it seems pointless
01:40:08 <inode0> nb: yes, we do
01:40:35 <award3535> Seems that we have less attending this year than the last
01:41:08 <inode0> I expect things might change as we get closer - I just don't know for sure my plans yet
01:42:02 <award3535> I hope you will be there, Ben and I can handle it well or at least I think we can
01:44:44 * j_dulaney reboots now
01:45:11 <award3535> anyone else have anything?
01:47:00 <dan408> not really
01:47:10 <dan408> inode0 do you have anything?
01:47:50 <inode0> no
01:48:21 <dan408> thanks for coming
01:48:24 <dan408> #endmeeting