21:00:16 <sesivany> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2013-01-30
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21:00:28 <sesivany> #meetingname emea ambassadors
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21:00:36 <sesivany> #topic Roll call
21:00:40 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
21:00:40 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
21:00:43 <zoltanh721> .fas zoltanh721
21:00:43 <zodbot> zoltanh721: zoltanh721 'Hoppár Zoltán' <hopparz@gmail.com>
21:00:44 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
21:00:49 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
21:01:07 <dglaros> .fas dimitrisglaros
21:01:08 <sesivany> let's wait a few more minutes for others.
21:01:08 <zodbot> dglaros: dimitrisglaros 'Dimitris Glaros' <dimitrisglaros@gmail.com>
21:01:59 <robyduck> .fas robyduck
21:02:00 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
21:02:06 <jamielinux> .fas jamielinux
21:02:06 <zodbot> jamielinux: jamielinux 'Jamie Nguyen' <j@jamielinux.com>
21:02:33 <anishjp> .fas anishjp
21:02:36 <zodbot> anishjp: anishjp '' <anishjp@yahoo.com>
21:02:44 <mailga> .fas mailga
21:02:45 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <mailga@fedoraonline.it>
21:02:49 <sesivany> welcome jamielinux, glad to see you here.
21:02:59 <jamielinux> sesivany: thanks, glad to be here :)
21:03:24 <anishjp> Hello everyone!
21:03:46 <sesivany> anishjp: hi!
21:04:32 <sesivany> ok, let's get started, we've got some stuff to do tonight.
21:04:40 <sesivany> #Announcements
21:04:47 <sesivany> damn...
21:04:53 <sesivany> #topic Announcements
21:05:08 <sesivany> any announcements today?
21:05:39 <sesivany> I've got a few...
21:05:57 <sesivany> first: F18 media arrived today!
21:06:22 <robyduck> great
21:06:37 <sesivany> those who filed a ticket and provided addresses already have packages on their way.
21:07:04 <sesivany> for others: if you need F18 media and other swag, please file a ticket in emea trac
21:07:50 <sesivany> #info if you need F18 media and other swag, please file a ticket in emea trac providing your address and phone number.
21:08:04 <sesivany> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/
21:08:15 <sesivany> in case you don't know where the trac is.
21:09:17 <sesivany> any questions about media and swag?
21:09:51 <gnokii> did u test them?
21:10:28 <sesivany> gnokii: yes, QA team tested the image before it went to the production and we also tested the DVD today.
21:10:52 <dramsey> +1
21:11:35 <sesivany> one more thing to the media...
21:11:59 <sesivany> unfortunately we don't have any multiarch install dvds
21:12:10 <sesivany> only multidesktop live dvds
21:12:57 <sesivany> we were able to make the install dvds uefi/secureboot compatible and because it's one of the promoted features of F18, we didn't want to produce it without it.
21:13:38 <pjones> yeah, I need to finish writing a memdisk-like grub2 command for uefi to make that possible.
21:13:43 <sesivany> #info we only produced multidesktop live dvds, no multiarch install dvds this time (because of problems with uefi).
21:13:54 <pjones> (for some future release, presumably.)
21:14:10 <sesivany> pjones: hopefully for F19, we'll see.
21:14:24 <pjones> yeah, I'm not making any promises just yet.
21:14:51 <sesivany> another announcement:
21:15:33 <sesivany> FOSDEM 2013 starts in two days. It's probably the biggest gathering of open source developers in the world.
21:15:43 <sesivany> Fedora will be there too
21:15:46 <sesivany> who's coming?
21:15:51 <dglaros> me
21:15:51 * jamielinux will be there
21:16:20 <zoltanh721> me not sadly
21:17:10 <sesivany> cwickert is planning an evening for Fedora contributors, so hope you all show up ;)
21:17:20 <cwickert> uuuh
21:17:30 <sesivany> cwickert: or not? :)
21:17:32 * cwickert missed the meeting
21:17:33 <jamielinux> which day?
21:17:46 <cwickert> Saturday
21:18:06 <cwickert> #action cwickert to write a mail to FOSDEM attendees
21:18:19 <sesivany> everyone, come to Fedora booth during Sat, you'll get more info ;-)
21:18:37 <cwickert> hold on
21:19:07 <cwickert> I'm afraid we are too many people, so the dinner will (have to) be restricted to Fedora contributors
21:19:19 <cwickert> I'm sorry, we cannot really sponsor dinner for all Fedora users
21:19:25 <cwickert> this is probably too much
21:19:35 <cwickert> but whoever is a Fedora contributor is welcome to join
21:19:40 <cwickert> EOF
21:19:47 <sesivany> cwickert: that's what I meant, for contributors.
21:19:52 <cwickert> ok then
21:20:09 <sesivany> speaking of fosdem, are we gonna have stuff for the booth?
21:20:19 <sesivany> tablecloth, banner,...
21:20:51 <sesivany> cwickert: ?
21:21:15 <gnokii> sesivany: that I wanted to discuss with u last meeting, but you tried to go somewhere else
21:21:51 <cwickert> fuck
21:21:54 <cwickert> sorry
21:22:02 <sesivany> gnokii: I was on my terrible, terrible journey to FUDCon Lawrence.
21:22:08 <gnokii> I know
21:22:14 <cwickert> hmmm
21:22:28 <sesivany> cwickert: I still can take tablecloth and maybe a banner
21:22:38 <cwickert> you have some?
21:22:38 <gnokii> that was the idea
21:22:50 <sesivany> cwickert: I need to talk to jreznik because he is going by car.
21:22:52 <cwickert> I will bring the electronical equipment
21:22:54 <gnokii> yes a blue table cloth and a bubble banner
21:23:00 <cwickert> sesivany: ok, please bring everything you can!
21:23:11 <cwickert> sesivany: all sag you have ;)
21:23:18 <sesivany> I'm taking 100 hats and 200 dvds, I don't think I can take more on plane.
21:23:32 <sesivany> so jreznik is our hope.
21:23:44 <cwickert> make sure there is no space left in jreznik's car
21:24:15 <sesivany> cwickert: they've got Peugeot 206, there is never enough room :)
21:24:48 <sesivany> any swag for fosdem?
21:25:00 <sesivany> I'll take 200 dvds
21:25:00 * cwickert will bring stickers
21:25:14 <cwickert> and some German cheetcubes
21:25:43 <sesivany> I can also bring fedora and upstream project stickers, buttons, pins, mugs, and I'm also taking hats, but most of them are for rbergeron.
21:25:51 <cwickert> please do
21:26:05 <cwickert> can we continue this discussion later under the 'Event' topic?
21:26:15 * cwickert is still working, but should be finished soon
21:26:20 <sesivany> ok, mugs also rely on jreznik because they're quite heavy.
21:26:29 <sesivany> cwickert: ok
21:26:31 <cwickert> sesivany: please ping me later, and then we can discuss the rest
21:26:46 <sesivany> let's continue with announcements...
21:26:51 <sesivany> one more
21:27:14 <sesivany> we started a new official Facebook page of Fedora Project today...
21:27:42 <fedora_richie> hi
21:27:59 <sesivany> #info A new official Facebook page of Fedora Project: https://www.facebook.com/fedoraproject.official - please like and propagate ;)
21:28:34 <sesivany> if no one else has any announcement, let's move on.
21:29:08 <sesivany> #topic Requests
21:29:20 * sesivany is looking into the trac
21:31:00 <sesivany> FYI I approve cmpahar's trip to OSOM in Bucharest on the peer review basis. AFAIK it was discussed at the last meeting and cmpahar couldn't wait longer.
21:31:27 <fedora_richie> Is there a ambassador's EMEA twitter id similar to Facebook ?
21:31:53 <sesivany> #info ticket #208 was approved by sesivany (peer review approval).
21:32:37 <sesivany> fedora_richie: yes, there is one official maintained by rbergeron and a bunch of other people.
21:33:13 <sesivany> fedora_richie: @fedora
21:33:48 <fedora_richie> thanks, noted,I will highlight this on ambassador's beat this month
21:34:07 <sesivany> there is #209 ticket
21:34:24 <sesivany> cmpahar told me you discussed it at the last meeting, right?
21:34:47 <sesivany> did you approve it?
21:34:56 <sesivany> gnokii: ?
21:35:08 <gnokii> sesivany: wasnt there had no internet
21:35:30 <robyduck> sesivany: yes
21:35:42 <robyduck> we approved ticket 209 for the transport
21:36:32 <sesivany> robyduck: that's the €50?
21:36:39 <mailga> !
21:36:54 <sesivany> mailga: go ahead
21:37:37 <mailga> the ticket 209 is for the drinks
21:38:03 <robyduck> sesivany: it was #202 sorry
21:38:03 <mailga> for the RP Pescara.
21:38:07 <mailga> EOF
21:40:13 <sesivany> I see even three tickets related to pescara.
21:40:19 <sesivany> 202, 203 and 209
21:40:32 <mailga> yes
21:41:00 <mailga> the 202 and 203 approved and the 209 is a extra request.
21:41:04 <mailga> EOF
21:41:45 <sesivany> so 209 is not approved... ok, let's do it now, I think the amount is reasonable.
21:41:58 <mailga> ok.
21:42:20 <sesivany> Who's for approving the ticket #209: €50 for the release party in pescara?
21:42:23 <sesivany> +1
21:42:24 <mailga> +1
21:42:32 <dglaros> +1
21:42:34 <robyduck> +1
21:42:50 <gnokii> +1
21:42:50 <fedora_richie> +1
21:43:07 <sesivany> ok, cool, quorum achieved.
21:43:31 <sesivany> #info ticket #209 has been approved.
21:43:39 <mailga> thanks guys.
21:44:43 <sesivany> I see no other funding requests, correct me if I'm wrong.
21:45:40 <sesivany> ok, let's move on.
21:46:17 <sesivany> I'll skip the ambassadors schedule topic because AFAIK there is no final schedule for F19.
21:46:40 <robyduck> +1
21:46:59 <sesivany> #topic Events
21:47:13 * sesivany is looking at the list of events...
21:47:45 <sesivany> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events
21:48:01 <robyduck> sesivany: including Release Parties?
21:48:15 <sesivany> robyduck: yes, let's discuss them now.
21:48:15 <robyduck> or will we have a dedicated topic?
21:48:21 <robyduck> ok
21:48:42 <mailga> !
21:48:58 <sesivany> robyduck: I saw a ticket from Italy asking for swag and media, but I don't know how much and to whom.
21:49:14 <robyduck> sesivany: we updayed the ticket this evening
21:49:14 <sesivany> mailga: just speak if you have something to this topic.
21:49:28 <robyduck> https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/206
21:49:59 <robyduck> we will cover 3 Release Parties in Italy and one Release Party in the italian speaking Suisse
21:50:03 <robyduck> Lugano
21:50:23 <sesivany> robyduck: wow, that's cool.
21:50:36 <robyduck> that's the reason why the request is rather big
21:50:43 <sesivany> looks like Italy is the most active country in emea nowadays :)
21:50:49 <robyduck> we also have some swags in inventory
21:50:50 <sesivany> good jobs, guys!
21:50:57 <mailga> this was that I had to say EOF
21:51:01 <robyduck> sesivany: thank you
21:51:21 <robyduck> so we are starting the 9th of february with Pescara
21:51:28 <sesivany> I'll send the package tomorrow.
21:51:42 <robyduck> ok, that's what I meant.. :)
21:52:01 <sesivany> I'll also include some caps and mugs.
21:52:09 <robyduck> we will have also the dvd's that's great
21:52:15 <robyduck> cool
21:53:29 <sesivany> dglaros: a package to Greece will be shipped tomorrow, too. Hopefully it will make it there before the FAD.
21:55:04 <dglaros> the FAD has been moved to 16/2 so i thing we have it
21:55:14 <sesivany> Developer Conference 2013 will be a great event this year, I already know about a plenty of fedora ambassadors who are coming. Even the community from Russia is gonna be there. They haven't cooperate with others much so far.
21:56:03 <sesivany> dglaros: please update the wiki page then. Thanks.
21:56:55 <sesivany> anything else to events?
21:57:38 <sesivany> if not, it's time to bring cwickert back and discuss FOSDEM again :)
21:57:54 <cwickert> just finished work
21:58:10 <cwickert> sesivany: ok, what do we have?
21:59:15 <sesivany> cwickert: rbergeron asked me to bring about a hundred baseball caps, and I'm bringing 200 DVDs, too. That's what I'm taking with me on plane.
21:59:22 <cwickert> ok
21:59:30 <sesivany> I think I can squeeze the tablecloth, too.
21:59:35 <cwickert> I can bring the electronic equipment
21:59:41 <cwickert> that is an XO and a tablet
21:59:50 <cwickert> do we need a laptop?
21:59:54 <gnokii> sesivany: u think u will arrive until fosdem ends?
21:59:56 <sesivany> and small stuff such as buttons and stickers.
22:00:03 <cwickert> laptops are so outdated ;)
22:00:21 <cwickert> yeah, I can also bring stickers and German Chaetcubes
22:00:26 <sesivany> gnokii: yeah, if it goes like FUDCon Lawrence, expect me on Sun ;-)
22:00:41 <cwickert> that's why I will also bring some stuff
22:01:12 <cwickert> anything else?
22:01:13 <sesivany> I'll ask jreznik to bring a rollup banner and mugs.
22:01:21 <cwickert> yeah, banner is a must
22:01:32 <cwickert> sesivany: can you take care of this?
22:01:37 <cwickert> I mean, telling him
22:01:56 <sesivany> cwickert: sure, I'll do
22:02:14 <sesivany> 200 dvds is enough?
22:02:28 <cwickert> 300 is better
22:02:32 <cwickert> but 200 will do
22:02:42 <cwickert> we can use FOSDEM to distribute media
22:02:47 <cwickert> to other contributors
22:03:07 <sesivany> ok, I'll ask jreznik if he can take additional 100, if not, I'll take 200 for sure.
22:03:35 * gnokii files a ticket renting a bigger car for jreznik going to fosdem
22:04:44 <cwickert> ok, anything else?
22:04:54 <sesivany> cwickert: I guess the beer on tap is not going to happen, isn't it?
22:04:57 <fedora_richie> sounds great..fantastic cooperation ..all the best for your event.. cheers <cwickert> and <sesivany> from UK team
22:05:15 <cwickert> sesivany: no, that would be uncool for the FOSDEM people
22:05:21 <cwickert> but I want to buy sweets
22:05:54 <cwickert> I mean, they make money with selling beer, and if we give away beer for free at the stand, that's probably not going to work
22:06:00 <cwickert> but sweets are no problem
22:06:05 <cwickert> I will take care of this
22:06:13 <gnokii> milk
22:06:34 <cwickert> hmm
22:06:37 <sesivany> cwickert: we'll have enough beer on Saturday's night :)
22:06:38 * cwickert thinks
22:06:48 <cwickert> sesivany: Friday will be more beer
22:07:03 <cwickert> ok, anything else?
22:07:39 <sesivany> cwickert: I'll arrive to Brussels Friday morning, so if there is anything needed to be done on Fri, I'm free to do it.
22:07:58 <cwickert> sesivany: what time exactly?
22:08:01 <cwickert> lets meet
22:08:08 * cwickert will be there at 8:35
22:08:24 <cwickert> and in the afternoon, we'll have beers at http://alamortsubite.com/
22:08:32 <cwickert> or coffee or whatever you want
22:08:45 <sesivany> cwickert: really? I arrive after 8, too.
22:08:54 <cwickert> ok, lets meet at the airport then
22:09:08 <cwickert> lets figure out the details later to not delay the meeting
22:09:12 <cwickert> ok?
22:09:18 <sesivany> cwickert: yep.
22:09:31 <sesivany> I think that's it for FOSDEM
22:10:08 <cwickert> ok, cool
22:10:51 <sesivany> does anyone have meeting minutes from the last meeting to quickly go through action items?
22:11:42 <fedora_richie> its better to keep our web page update..please.. for events and minutes
22:11:53 <robyduck> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-01-16/emea_ambassadors.2013-01-16-21.07.html
22:12:28 <sesivany> robyduck: thanks
22:12:40 <robyduck> ;)
22:13:00 <sesivany> UNDONE cmpahar and comzeradd to make a budget for Fosscomm
22:13:24 <sesivany> unfortunately the budget has been submitted, so it's kinda late anyway :-/
22:13:48 <sesivany> DONE cwickert to ask biertie if he can arrange something for Friday afternoon before FOSDEM beer event
22:13:59 <sesivany> at least I consider this done, right, cwickert?
22:14:03 <cwickert> yes
22:14:22 <sesivany> UNDONE twohot and frankice to look for events in Africa in 2013
22:14:31 <sesivany> at least I didn't hear back from them.
22:15:16 <sesivany> ok, let's move to the openfloor.
22:15:22 <sesivany> #topic openfloor
22:15:41 <gnokii> cwickert: linuxtag called for projects
22:16:18 <cwickert> gnokii: dude, I'm way ahead of you!
22:16:29 <cwickert> I already signed Fedora up 2 days ago
22:16:30 <gnokii> dont think so
22:16:48 <cwickert> I even announced that on G+ :)
22:16:57 <cwickert> anyway, consider that done
22:18:19 <gnokii> still 40 minutes to submit a talk
22:18:27 <fedora_richie> anyone want to highlight anything special in next ambassador's beat?
22:19:20 <cwickert> good question
22:19:29 <cwickert> release events
22:19:50 <fedora_richie> noted +1
22:19:52 <cwickert> fedora_richie: can you write something up?
22:19:55 <cwickert> ok, thanks
22:20:01 <cwickert> I am probably too busy
22:20:04 <fedora_richie> yep  i will take it up
22:20:16 <cwickert> thanks
22:20:21 <fedora_richie> welcome
22:20:34 <fedora_richie> Anyone from UK ? any events plan in UK ?
22:21:13 * jamielinux is from the UK but in the process of becoming a Fedora Ambassador :)
22:21:51 <sesivany> some new events in the UK would be great
22:22:22 <sesivany> btw the next LinuxCon Europe will be in Edinburgh, we'll definitely need volunteers for that.
22:23:13 <jamielinux> That's in October?
22:23:16 <fedora_richie> yes.. agreed.. time to build back active UK team and plan events.. time to invite  <cwickert> and  <sesivany> to UK... Edinburgh will be great
22:24:08 <cwickert> lets see
22:24:22 <fedora_richie> oct 21
22:24:29 <fedora_richie> to oct 23
22:24:33 <cwickert> good to know
22:24:48 <cwickert> not sure if I can attend, but we should at least have 2-3 people there
22:24:51 <fedora_richie> who will add this to event page? can i ?
22:24:52 <cwickert> if not more
22:24:58 <cwickert> sure, go ahead
22:25:07 * jamielinux anticipates that he will attend
22:25:17 <cwickert> jamielinux: please do
22:25:30 <sesivany> 2-3 people and at least 1 experienced ambassador/contributor, it's a really important event.
22:26:17 <fedora_richie> will do.. myslef and <jamielinux> are in.. I will try to get my works vetted through simon / cwickert
22:26:47 <sesivany> fedora_richie: I think affix could be interested, too. He's from Scotland.
22:27:19 <fedora_richie> thanks <sesivany> noted.. will ping affix
22:27:23 <cwickert> I think we should prefer "locals" to save travel, but also bring one experienced ambassador over
22:27:31 <cwickert> affix is a good candidate
22:27:32 <gnokii> time for create an fedora kilt
22:27:39 <jamielinux> +1
22:27:54 <zoltanh721> +1
22:27:56 <dglaros> +1
22:27:59 <fedora_richie> wow supreb localization idea <gnokii>
22:28:01 <fedora_richie> +1
22:28:19 <sesivany> +1 :)
22:28:37 <gnokii> yeah but that will be expensive
22:29:21 <dramsey> +1
22:30:02 <sesivany> gnokii: I know one lady that makes kilts here in Brno.
22:30:15 <fedora_richie> assess price and raise trac ? ;) for kilt
22:30:36 <gnokii> sesivany: the making itself is cheap the material is it
22:30:52 <sesivany> cwickert: speaking of events, do you already know for sure if you're coming to DevConf?
22:31:45 <cwickert> yes
22:31:58 <cwickert> can you book a room?
22:33:02 <sesivany> cwickert: that's the problem. Avanti Hotel is completely full, we can't book even a single room any more.
22:33:13 <sesivany> cwickert: still waiting for cancellations
22:33:32 <cwickert> I think I told you I was coming
22:33:34 <cwickert> anyway
22:33:43 <gnokii> cwickert: sport hotel isnt that bad
22:33:44 <sesivany> cwickert: we booked 60 rooms and it was gone like in two weeks.
22:34:15 <cwickert> ok, lets sort this out later
22:34:20 <sesivany> some people are staying in Sport hotel, dgilmore for example.
22:34:21 <cwickert> lets not have endless meeting
22:34:35 <sesivany> cwickert: ok, I'm going to end it now.
22:34:45 <sesivany> #endmeeting