01:58:38 <inode0> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:58:38 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 23 01:58:38 2013 UTC. The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:58:38 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:58:42 <inode0> #meetingname FAmNA 01:58:42 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:58:55 <inode0> #topic Roll Call 01:59:00 <award3535> present 01:59:04 * inode0 is starting a minute early tonight 01:59:10 <dan408_> here 01:59:15 <award3535> no pr9oblems 01:59:57 <inode0> #topic Announcements 02:00:24 <dan408_> inode0 kk4ewt nb i have the banners 02:00:28 <award3535> Texas linux fest is may 31 jun 1 02:00:45 <nb> hi 02:00:46 <award3535> SELF is 7-9 Jun 02:00:47 <kk4ewt> dan408_: good 02:00:56 <dan408_> k 02:00:56 * graphite6 is here 02:01:04 <nb> dan408_, ok good 02:01:16 <inode0> other announcements? 02:01:22 <nb> FUDCon happened 02:01:26 <nb> FAMNA happened 02:01:28 <nb> they were good. 02:01:29 <nb> EOF 02:01:30 <kk4ewt> FADNA Happen 02:01:44 <dan408_> pleasire meeting everyone 02:01:48 <inode0> #topic FADNA Information 02:02:04 <inode0> #info Proposed FY14 budget is here 02:02:14 <inode0> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApBrbq5j6NbOdG0zQzVvR3VqQ05NaE5xaDdLOWh3a0E&pli=1#gid=0 02:02:37 <inode0> Please review quickly to see if anyone has any comments/concerns before we informally approve it 02:02:48 <dan408_> are we adding those neat coasters? 02:03:21 <inode0> no idea what you are talking about dan408_ 02:03:28 <graphite6> Brief list of agreed on core events, event owners, and SOPs to write are on the FADNA page 02:03:31 <graphite6> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2013#FADNA_Results 02:03:35 <nb> the coasters some UK guy gave us at FUDCon 02:03:39 <nb> that have the foundations on them 02:03:55 * inode0 hasn't seen them or heard of them so no 02:04:15 <dan408_> swag 02:04:33 <dan408_> ill take a pic and get the info 02:05:03 <graphite6> #link FADNA recording part 1 https://plus.google.com/u/0/100952077644304838223/posts/XgHi4ouePWx 02:05:05 <inode0> swag can always be pitched but it certainly isn't in the budget proposal and won't be without a vendor and someone willing to do it 02:05:20 <inode0> any comments on the budget? 02:05:45 <inode0> this is about a 50% increase over what we have spent in recent years 02:05:49 <dan408_> gimme a min 02:05:49 <graphite6> #link FADNA recording part 2 https://plus.google.com/u/0/100952077644304838223/posts/S1KJEjwMDtb 02:05:52 <nb> #proposal send it to famsco as our proposal 02:06:27 <MarkDude> Yay, FAMNA 02:06:42 <inode0> +1 to nb's proposal 02:07:04 <graphite6> +1 to nb's proposal 02:07:13 <kk4ewt> +1 02:07:14 <dan408_> would like to add amend the swag to add coasters and lanyards 02:07:16 <award3535> +1 02:07:28 <dan408_> rbergeron was interested in the coasters for sure 02:07:37 <inode0> dan408_: pitch them later when they aren't just a dream 02:07:47 <dan408_> yessir 02:07:47 <kk4ewt> just because it proposed doesnt mean its going to be granted 02:08:10 <kk4ewt> dan408_: one problem no voice symbol 02:08:15 <inode0> hearing no dissent 02:08:16 <kk4ewt> next 02:08:19 <dan408_> plus 1 02:08:54 <inode0> #agreed FAmNA approves the proposed budget from FADNA and nb will send it on to FAmSCo 02:09:04 <graphite6> #info thank you to herlo for setting up the hangout/youtube recordings of the FADNA meeting 02:09:13 <MarkDude> Agreed. 02:09:33 <inode0> graphite6: would you link the two main wiki pages we worked on just so people can see how they look now? 02:09:39 <award3535> I will watch it later, and yes thanks for the links 02:09:53 <graphite6> inode0: yes, just a sec 02:10:23 <graphite6> #link Updated main ambassador page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors 02:10:51 <graphite6> #link Update FAmNA page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_North_America_(FAMNA) 02:11:50 <inode0> #info Event owners for major events identified with the exceptions of TXLF, ILF, and OLF 02:11:55 <graphite6> At FAmNA we worked through the two pages above and removed old info, added a region map and what we do section 02:12:22 <graphite6> I updated the main events page with the FY14 quarters and the core events we're interested in sponsoring 02:12:29 * MarkDude takes exception to local budget amount. Will bring it at another time 02:12:53 <inode0> what is the objection? 02:12:54 <graphite6> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events?rd=FedoraEvents 02:13:52 <MarkDude> Well, I was under the impression BAMF costs would be under local 02:14:07 <MarkDude> I mean, normally we are the only ones to do parties 02:14:29 <inode0> release parties or parties in general? 02:14:39 <MarkDude> But the ideas of BAMF would most likely take a sub-meeting 02:14:39 <MarkDude> BAMF 02:14:43 <kk4ewt> when you propse them we can cover them at later meeting,should we pay for every bamf meeting no 02:14:59 <MarkDude> ? 02:15:05 <MarkDude> eof 02:15:15 <inode0> give me a rough number what you think BAMF needs from us? 02:15:40 <MarkDude> guess of $2000+ 02:15:44 <MarkDude> guess 02:15:55 <MarkDude> EVERYTHING would be done in $300 increments 02:15:57 <inode0> does that include media/swag? 02:15:59 <MarkDude> EVERY 02:16:12 <MarkDude> Well thats the detaislIm not sure of 02:16:36 <MarkDude> I want to make sure I can show local Fedora works, but do it in a manner that lets folks see it 02:16:48 <inode0> well, $2000 is just a number from the sky in my mind - I have no idea what that $2000 will be spent on 02:16:58 <MarkDude> And make sure each step involving money is done in steps 02:17:04 <MarkDude> Just saying factor it in 02:17:28 <MarkDude> And it sounds like NOTHING was mentioned there. I THOUGHT someone brough tthis up there 02:17:51 <inode0> nothing was mentioned but $5k is way more than we have ever spent on lugs and release parties 02:17:57 * MarkDude is actually surprised, and dont want to take the whole meeting 02:18:11 <MarkDude> Possible objection 02:18:20 <MarkDude> Just voicing it- 02:18:25 <inode0> and of course that number isn't swag/media 02:18:27 <MarkDude> inode0: ok- makes sense 02:18:31 <MarkDude> eof 02:18:33 <dan408_> brb switching clients 02:18:37 <inode0> there is no point to object without any basis for objecting 02:18:44 <MarkDude> Ok 02:19:08 <MarkDude> Lets stop the meeting to go over local merits of Fedora- that were discussed at FUDcon I went to? 02:19:22 <kk4ewt> lets dont 02:19:23 <inode0> what? 02:19:26 <MarkDude> I mean- am I able to voice I *may* ov=bject? 02:19:31 <MarkDude> yes kk4ewt 02:19:39 <MarkDude> POSSIBLE objection 02:19:45 <MarkDude> Let me look at details 02:20:12 <MarkDude> But - as I said lets move on 02:20:20 <inode0> MarkDude: you can certainly lobby for a change - please don't object without any basis and who says that $2k of that $5k couldn't go to your area? 02:20:42 <inode0> We haven't been told what you need or want so we can't budget it in specifically at this point. 02:21:15 <MarkDude> table it. 02:21:20 <MarkDude> Will bring it up later 02:21:38 <MarkDude> Ping me if VWbus is not here for Scale part :) 02:21:42 <kk4ewt> the budget can not be tabled it has to be sent 02:21:45 <inode0> #info MarkDude reserves the right to object to the budget later after it has been set in stone :) 02:21:48 <MarkDude> Send it 02:22:10 <inode0> ok, anyone want to add anything more about FADNA? 02:22:35 <inode0> We have a list of SOPs developed or being developed - shall we try to go over them one per week maybe? 02:22:46 <dan408> +1 02:22:46 <graphite6> inode0: I like that idea 02:22:50 <award3535> +1 02:22:56 <graphite6> #link SOP list https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2013#SOPs 02:23:19 <inode0> ok, could someone pick one and drop it on next week's agenda? 02:23:22 <graphite6> Above is the list of SOPs to find (see if they exist), update if so, or write 02:24:15 * inode0 is about to move on to tickets 02:24:21 <award3535> +1 02:24:24 <inode0> #tickets 02:24:26 <inode0> https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 02:25:06 * inode0 isn't quite sure which need to be dealt with though 02:25:20 <inode0> .famnaticket 33 02:25:24 <zodbot> inode0: #33 (2012 Fedora Merchandise Order) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/33 02:25:42 <graphite6> Is there anything more to be done with this ticket? 02:25:43 <inode0> shirts arrived, still need to be paid for though 02:26:09 <inode0> I'll close this ticket after getting payment squared away I guess. 02:26:17 <graphite6> sweet about the arrival, bummer about the bill :D 02:26:24 <graphite6> +1 02:26:31 <inode0> .famnaticket 36 02:26:33 <zodbot> inode0: #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 02:26:45 <dan408> we can close that one finally 02:26:58 <graphite6> Writing my event report as we speak 02:27:01 <inode0> this can be closed now I think unless people would like to link in some reporting 02:27:27 <inode0> we should link in reports - can we do that before next week and close it then? 02:27:30 <kk4ewt> working on mine as well 02:27:40 <graphite6> inode0: +1 02:27:49 * dan408 will looks at others reports and draft his own 02:28:03 <graphite6> #action link your FADNA event report to ticket by next week's meeting 02:28:04 <award3535> I look forward to reading them 02:28:08 <inode0> .famnaticket 47 02:28:10 <zodbot> inode0: #47 (New Events for FY14) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/47 02:28:35 <dan408> MarkDude: did you create a ticket for CLS West 2013? 02:28:40 <inode0> this one I think we might keep open in case we have more ideas but we can remove it from the agenda 02:28:48 <inode0> obviously not 02:28:52 <graphite6> inode0: agreed 02:29:16 <inode0> ok, we have two event tickets 02:29:23 <inode0> .famnaticket 48 02:29:24 <MarkDude> Waiting to do that 02:29:27 <zodbot> inode0: #48 (PyCon 2013 March 13 - 21, Santa Clara, CA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/48 02:29:39 <MarkDude> Grant was unable to make it- no big costs there anyway 02:29:53 <inode0> Let's talk about pycon now please 02:30:13 <graphite6> I added this ticket today with links to the sponsorship prospectus and b/c registration is open 02:30:21 <inode0> Red Hat is a major sponsor of this event and we are too late it appears to get a free OSS booth 02:30:21 * masta is here 02:30:39 <graphite6> Should I reach out to Toshio to see 1. if he will own it, and 2. what he needs from us? 02:31:05 <inode0> abadger1999: ^^^ 02:31:11 * inode0 reaches out right now :0 02:31:12 * dan408 may do 1 day for PyCon but seriously doubt it 02:31:21 <graphite6> oops, lol 02:31:38 <graphite6> btw, Pycon Expo floor dates have been extended 02:31:40 <inode0> normally we send some media and swag to toshio to take with him 02:31:48 <graphite6> I also updated the attendance estimate 02:32:10 <graphite6> from 1000 attendees to 2500+ (according to the pycon website) 02:32:19 <graphite6> on the events page 02:32:26 <inode0> he mentioned whatever we sent last year was about perfect so if we can recover that information we should make a care package for him before the event 02:32:46 * dan408 proposes that we should do a local meetup for PyCon attendees on a Friday or saturday night if they are interested 02:33:44 <graphite6> #info It is too late to get a free OSS booth at PyCon 02:33:50 <dan408> other than that im perfectly fine with toshio taking care of it on his own 02:33:56 <dan408> and graphite6 02:34:27 <inode0> I think we should note to attend to this event earlier next year as I think a booth would be nice to try 02:34:43 <graphite6> #info Determine amount of media and swag we sent last year and do a repeat care package for abadger1999 this year 02:34:44 <dan408> problem is it's a week long+ event 02:35:16 <masta> that is a bit much 02:35:27 <graphite6> #action attend to PyCon earlier next year as a booth would be nice 02:35:28 <inode0> with planning that might not be a big problem and we don't have to be there the entire week 02:35:46 <dan408> +1 inode0 02:35:52 <graphite6> #idea do a local meetup for PyCon attendees on a Friday or saturday night if they are interested 02:35:55 <inode0> anyway, that can be discussed for next year 02:36:32 <inode0> dan408: ping abadger1999 about when that might work for the people going 02:36:55 <inode0> next? 02:37:02 <graphite6> an event page also needs to be set up 02:37:24 <graphite6> and I'm not it :) 02:37:29 <inode0> dan408: ^^^ :) 02:37:45 <inode0> you seem nearby 02:37:53 <MarkDude> dan IS 02:37:57 <MarkDude> :D 02:38:20 <dan408> inode0: ok 02:38:25 <inode0> thanks 02:38:50 <graphite6> #action dan408 will ping abadger1999 about PyCon meetup 02:38:52 <inode0> #action dan408 to set up event page for pycon and look into a meetup with Fedora attendees and locals 02:39:19 <inode0> a double action for our superhero 02:39:20 * graphite6 semi-jinx 02:39:33 <inode0> .famnaticket 49 02:39:35 <zodbot> inode0: #49 (Northeast LinuxFest 2013, March 16 - 17, Harvard) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/49 02:39:46 <inode0> chanchito: ping-a-ling 02:39:53 <dan408> :) 02:40:01 <graphite6> I set this ticket up since this event is also pretty soon 02:40:10 <chanchito> hey folks 02:40:13 <chanchito> greetings all 02:40:16 <graphite6> #info NELF registration is open 02:40:24 <inode0> welcome back chanchito 02:40:30 <graphite6> chanchito: Hi, we missed you! 02:40:40 <chanchito> yes i am in contact with the organizer, jonathan nadeau regularly via email and podcast 02:40:41 * masta waves 02:41:14 <chanchito> we have been promised gold level sponsorship 02:41:20 <inode0> by who? 02:41:28 <chanchito> the organizer 02:41:37 <chanchito> jonathan nadeau 02:41:41 <inode0> for free? 02:41:55 <chanchito> i offered to give several talks, and povide an event booth, on site installs, etc 02:42:05 <chanchito> this year we're at harvard, and MIT is down the street 02:42:16 <chanchito> so students from both CS schools will be there 02:42:23 <masta> what can we do to make NELF happy? 02:42:31 <chanchito> we need to make a splash 02:42:35 <inode0> what is the deal on the sponsorship? 02:42:37 <chanchito> event booth, banners, 02:42:53 <chanchito> jonathan said we can have gold level sponsorship 02:43:04 * inode0 can't parse that precisely 02:43:05 <award3535> cost? 02:43:09 <chanchito> we just need to make a good splash, he wants us to be extremely visibile 02:43:30 <inode0> can just have because he likes us? or we can pony up $2k for it? 02:43:37 * MarkDude says chanchito covers his personal expenses- and will make a splash for sure. 02:43:42 <chanchito> bronze level for $500 will get us GOLD level 02:43:53 <award3535> thats better 02:43:54 <inode0> ok, that is wonderful 02:44:11 <masta> taht is a great deal 02:44:15 <masta> *that 02:44:18 <award3535> I agree 02:44:22 * MarkDude asks that chanchito see if he can record some. Seeing him in action is good for Fedora in general 02:44:22 <chanchito> so we get the full page ad, premium placement, dedicated classrooms just for fedora talks and demos 02:44:30 <graphite6> w00t! 02:44:38 <award3535> :) 02:44:59 <graphite6> chanchito: I saw the tentative schedule, what does the 2 full days of 'Fedora camp' entail? 02:45:01 <chanchito> he asked that we deliver talks on virtualization (in progress) and accessibility 02:45:10 <inode0> Are papers still open? 02:45:15 <chanchito> yes 02:45:32 <graphite6> #info NELF call for papers is open 02:45:33 <inode0> Is there a link or by invitation or what? 02:45:36 <chanchito> the fedora camp is going to be a promotional/recruitment type scene, 02:45:42 * inode0 can't find where to propose a talk 02:45:52 <chanchito> there is a page for listing speakers 02:45:54 <graphite6> inode0: it's the same link as registration 02:46:03 <chanchito> ill update the event page and post all the info 02:46:06 <chanchito> probably this weekend 02:46:08 <graphite6> you register and submit a talk in tandem 02:46:38 <chanchito> well, i dont have to submit mine, i just need to list the title of my talks about fedora, and the rooms will be labeled and marked 02:46:56 <chanchito> we are getting the entire computer science building at hardvard for this event 02:46:59 <chanchito> for two days 02:47:00 <inode0> hrm 02:47:02 <graphite6> #info at the bronze level sponsorship price of $500, Fedora will get Gold level level 02:47:03 <inode0> ok 02:47:06 <chanchito> yes 02:47:37 <graphite6> #info NELF sponsorship includes full page ad, premium placement, dedicated classrooms just for fedora talks and demos 02:47:54 <chanchito> i am willing to split the cost of sponsorship with fedora, in return for lots of shirts, to hand out ONLY to qualified interested students, protential volunteers 02:48:06 <inode0> Thanks chanchito, we'll need to keep on top of this to make sure we have a great event this year. 02:48:13 <chanchito> we will 02:48:15 <chanchito> very excited 02:48:20 <graphite6> #info fedora camp is going to be a promotional/recruitment type scene 02:48:23 <chanchito> im recruiting some student volunteers as well 02:48:28 <chanchito> correct 02:48:54 <inode0> We do need to move on tonight because open floor is bound to be packed with events not on the agenda 02:49:00 <chanchito> sorry 02:49:07 <inode0> no problem 02:49:08 <chanchito> please continue sir 02:49:40 <inode0> NELF will stay on the agenda in upcoming weeks 02:49:53 <inode0> #topic Open Floor 02:49:57 <chanchito> ok thx a million! appreciate the spotlight for it 02:50:10 <MarkDude> So vw did NOT file a ticket for SCALE? 02:50:15 * masta will see if any of the MIT crowd wouldbe interested in giving a fedora talk 02:50:23 <masta> at NELF 02:50:25 <graphite6> masta: +1 02:50:52 <MarkDude> Not sure what to do- I filed the ticket with him I was asked to- for the 75cds 02:50:57 <chanchito> OK please coordinate with me, since i have to submit a list of speakers and organize which classrooms and times, and also make sure the event booth is manned 02:50:58 <inode0> might be a good place for some arm folks 02:51:58 <inode0> 75 cds? 02:52:03 <MarkDude> We are getting closer to Scale, and some details concern me- like do we have a screen for the Pis- biker MAY bring one 02:52:29 <inode0> there is an event page, there is no tracking ticket for the meeting 02:52:30 <MarkDude> Yes inode0 Orv from Scale asked for that many for a Linux class they are having 02:52:30 <nb> MarkDude, for what pis? 02:52:41 <MarkDude> Nb shut the hell up 02:52:41 <nb> MarkDude, we have no cds 02:52:44 <inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE_11X_Event 02:52:50 * MarkDude will deal with you later :) 02:52:59 * MarkDude is confused at this point 02:52:59 <nb> MarkDude, umm, why don't you act civil 02:53:08 <MarkDude> Ok Cartman 02:53:18 <inode0> #endmeeting