04:13:27 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting Fedora APAC Ambassadors 2013-01-19
04:13:27 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Jan 19 04:13:27 2013 UTC.  The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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04:13:34 <keshavmishra> ping azneita KageSenshi
04:13:39 <FranciscoD> #chair azneita keshavmishra KageSenshi
04:13:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi azneita keshavmishra
04:13:48 <FranciscoD> #chair tuanta
04:13:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi azneita keshavmishra tuanta
04:13:51 <keshavmishra> .fas keshavmishra
04:13:52 <zodbot> keshavmishra: keshavmishra 'keshav kumar' <keshav_kumar22@yahoo.in>
04:13:53 <FranciscoD> #topic Presence
04:13:56 <tuanta> hi :)
04:13:58 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:13:58 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:14:08 <tuanta> just observer :)
04:14:08 <FranciscoD> .fas sanjay.ankur@gmail.com
04:14:09 <azneita> .fas herson@azneita.org
04:14:10 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com>
04:14:13 <zodbot> azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' <herson@azneita.org>
04:14:24 * FranciscoD waits for more folks to attend: 30 seconds
04:14:25 <tuanta> I am in a conference now (together with Fedora 18 release party :)
04:14:30 <keshavmishra> .fas keshavmishra
04:14:30 <zodbot> keshavmishra: keshavmishra 'keshav kumar' <keshav_kumar22@yahoo.in>
04:14:31 <FranciscoD> tuanta: nice!
04:14:41 <keshavmishra> tuanta +1
04:14:41 <azneita> let's make this quick
04:14:47 <alick> hi
04:14:57 <FranciscoD> hi alick
04:15:00 <FranciscoD> .fas alick
04:15:00 <zodbot> FranciscoD: alick 'Zhao Tao' <alick9188@gmail.com> - patrikskalicky 'Patrik Skalicky' <patrik.skalicky@gmail.com> - sakodak 'Jason Balicki' <sakodak@gmail.com> - walicki 'John Walicki' <johnwalicki@gmail.com> - alickee '' <alick.tmp@gmail.com> - drako 'Stefan Palicki' <stefan.palicki@gmail.com>
04:15:00 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar
04:15:02 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com>
04:15:07 <FranciscoD> okay
04:15:11 <FranciscoD> moving on to the goods
04:15:29 <FranciscoD> #topic review action items from last meeting
04:15:34 * FranciscoD goes to check what they were
04:15:36 <FranciscoD> a seconds
04:15:40 <FranciscoD> s/s$//
04:16:00 <FranciscoD> the only one was:
04:16:10 <FranciscoD> alick fill up the China budget before the dead line
04:16:14 <FranciscoD> alick: complete I think?
04:16:20 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget/China_Budget_FY2014
04:16:47 * FranciscoD waits for a response before moving on
04:16:57 <KageSenshi> oh .. china want to bid ? .. cool ..
04:17:13 <azneita> looking
04:17:14 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: nah, this was just for the APAC budget
04:17:19 <FranciscoD> (I think)
04:17:31 <KageSenshi> eh .. ?
04:17:38 <KageSenshi> haha . .sorry read it wrongly
04:17:38 <KageSenshi> xD
04:17:49 <keshavmishra> :P
04:17:56 * tuanta updates China budget to APAC page
04:17:57 <azneita> looks to be in order
04:18:47 <FranciscoD> okay, moving on to the next topic
04:18:56 <FranciscoD> #topic APAC Events: plans, status, reports
04:18:59 <FranciscoD> any updates on this?
04:19:27 <azneita> !
04:19:31 <FranciscoD> azneita: go
04:20:04 <azneita> magie sent an email earlier about our team's offer to host FAD instead of FUDCon
04:21:13 * bckurera bit late today :)
04:21:36 <azneita> so we're out in the running for this years fudcon
04:21:48 <azneita> eof
04:22:55 <azneita> we can discuss the details of our decision outside of the meeting so for now, we can move on to next topic
04:23:04 <azneita> :)
04:23:45 <keshavmishra> lets keep it for mailing lists
04:23:57 <alick> we might revise the budget for release party in Beijing.
04:24:01 <keshavmishra> there we can get support :)
04:24:19 <alick> tuanta raises some concern with the cost for hosting places
04:25:02 <azneita> alick, if you can get somewhere cheap, more swag for attendees
04:25:09 <alick> and we are still discussing with the school
04:25:26 <alick> and with my advisor to seek support for that
04:25:26 <FranciscoD> alick: yeah, please update the ticket once you have some more details
04:25:36 <FranciscoD> and we can re-visit it
04:25:39 <azneita> yeah, keep us updated on the ticket
04:25:52 <FranciscoD> anything else regarding events?
04:25:56 <alick> yeah
04:26:12 <alick> I will reflect the updates on wiki and ticket.
04:26:14 <alick> eof
04:26:23 <azneita> nothing else from this side of the world
04:26:30 <FranciscoD> okay
04:26:44 <FranciscoD> #topic trac tickets
04:26:47 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9
04:27:04 <FranciscoD> anyone got any tickets we need to take care of?
04:27:25 <FranciscoD> I see a few indonesia tickets
04:27:25 <keshavmishra> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/61
04:27:27 <azneita> i have a reimbursement but we're still to create a ticket
04:27:39 <tuanta> !
04:27:42 <FranciscoD> azneita: ah, we'll discuss it when you've created the ticket then?
04:27:49 <azneita> true :)
04:27:56 <FranciscoD> keshavmishra: you can speak once tuanta has finished please
04:27:57 <FranciscoD> tuanta: go
04:28:00 <bckurera> !
04:28:14 <tuanta> APAC FY2014 Budget Draft updated.
04:28:17 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tuanta/APAC_FY2014_Budget_Draft
04:28:23 <tuanta> please open for discuss on it
04:28:38 <tuanta> eof
04:28:53 <FranciscoD> tuanta: will it be better if we took a day or two to discuss it, or do you want it discussed now?
04:29:05 <FranciscoD> bckurera: after keshavmishra please
04:29:09 <tuanta> maybe in Open Floor
04:29:22 <tuanta> hard deadline is so close
04:29:29 <FranciscoD> okay, please remind me in open floor tuanta
04:29:36 <FranciscoD> keshavmishra: your ticket please
04:30:07 <keshavmishra> its not my ticket
04:30:11 <FranciscoD> hrm, ah
04:30:17 * tuanta in conference. Can not talk too much. I will follow your discussion later on mailing list
04:30:29 <keshavmishra> I was just looking at it and thought we could have discussion on it
04:30:51 <FranciscoD> "Fedora Fedora release party dinners award in APAC": ticket 61
04:30:52 <keshavmishra> \but it seems we can skip it for mailing lists
04:30:54 <keshavmishra> eof
04:30:56 <FranciscoD> please give your views in comments
04:31:08 <azneita> my thoughts exactly
04:31:12 <FranciscoD> I don't know what to discuss about it at the moment, other than that it seems like a good idea
04:31:47 <FranciscoD> next
04:31:48 <azneita> +1, let's move on
04:31:59 <keshavmishra> +1 next topic
04:32:04 <FranciscoD> I still need to complete and open a ticket about the FUDCon planning template:
04:32:14 <FranciscoD> http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/fudcon_plan/FUDCon%20organization%20plan.html
04:32:33 <FranciscoD> Please feel free to email me whatever your views are on it, whenever you want
04:32:37 <bckurera> So I would like to draw your attention on ticket #59
04:32:45 * FranciscoD has this task pending for a few weeks
04:32:49 <FranciscoD> bckurera: please proceed
04:33:11 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/59
04:33:11 <bckurera> so I need ideas, comment :)
04:33:42 <azneita> i'm cool with the idea
04:33:52 <bckurera> my plan is to go for the production using FY2013 budget, if it should be done !
04:34:06 <FranciscoD> bckurera: I'll need more details before I can comment:
04:34:13 <FranciscoD> pricing? shipping? trademark usage?
04:34:13 <bckurera> I think this is better than Tshirt because of noted reasons.
04:34:43 <FranciscoD> It sounds like a great idea, but I'd like more details before giving my measly +1 ;)
04:34:47 <azneita> more pins and pens and stickers too :)
04:34:57 <bckurera> FranciscoD : We can go for pricing and quotations, but first of all we need to make sure this is good enough as a gift in events
04:35:01 <dramsey> Sorry to be late guys.
04:35:10 <dramsey> Still not able to IRC, so please continue.
04:35:12 <FranciscoD> bckurera: it's a great gift. Anything with fedora on it is :)
04:35:12 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
04:35:13 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
04:35:15 <azneita> no worries dramsey
04:35:28 <keshavmishra> from last meeting, table cloth too ;)
04:35:36 <bckurera> hi dramsey
04:35:39 <FranciscoD> #action APAC review and comment on trac ticket #59: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/59
04:36:10 <FranciscoD> #action APAC review and comment on fudcon plan via email to FranciscoD : http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/fudcon_plan/FUDCon%20organization%20plan.html
04:36:24 <FranciscoD> I think that covers the agenda
04:36:30 <bckurera> Taking about Fedora logo usage in caps, it would be fedora logo on it
04:36:33 <FranciscoD> #topic Open Floor
04:36:42 <keshavmishra> !!
04:37:00 <dramsey> ?
04:37:05 <FranciscoD> bckurera: yes, fedora logo, I don't think there should be any legal issues. Always a good idea to speak to legal though
04:37:08 <FranciscoD> keshavmishra: go
04:37:14 <bckurera> so please add your comments to the ticket and we can proceed then
04:37:27 <keshavmishra> we have a huge rush on Fedora Free media program,
04:37:36 <bckurera> FranciscoD : agree
04:37:49 <bckurera> eof
04:38:10 <FranciscoD> keshavmishra: that cannot be helped in India. And since the form is open all the time, it's going to get even worse :)
04:38:12 <keshavmishra> so I guess we are all running away from sending the min 2 media which everyone used to send
04:38:57 <keshavmishra> maybe we can close the form,coz as mentioned on wiki,it is said that if form is available on website that means we are able to send media
04:39:01 <FranciscoD> India in Freemedia has logistic issues. It isn't any thing new. We've been trying to cope with it. It isn't practical for volunteers to adress 50 free medias each month.
04:39:17 <FranciscoD> keshavmishra: this is a discussion for the freemedia mailing list I'm afraid.
04:39:22 <FranciscoD> The ambassadors don't control it.
04:39:36 <FranciscoD> There was a discussion about keeping the form always open etc.
04:39:36 <keshavmishra> ok
04:39:46 <keshavmishra> ohh i see
04:39:57 <bckurera> keshavmishra : I wonder this is the right place for this anyway I would like to invite more FAm to join with Freemedia group
04:40:34 <FranciscoD> bckurera: you should send out a call on the mailing lists. I've done it multiple times on the India mailing list etc.
04:40:40 <FranciscoD> (in the past)
04:41:05 <keshavmishra> +1 for efforts
04:41:07 <FranciscoD> folks do join, but the requests numbers are really high for any number of ambassadors to service
04:41:20 * FranciscoD used to send out 20/month when he was in India
04:41:37 <FranciscoD> Anything else that needs discussion?
04:41:45 <FranciscoD> otherwise I end the meeting
04:41:48 <dramsey> ?
04:41:52 <FranciscoD> dramsey: g
04:41:55 <FranciscoD> *go
04:41:57 <dramsey> Hello Everyone.
04:42:11 <dramsey> is there anything which I need to address for tickets and/or anything?
04:42:20 <dramsey> Also, thanks everyone for attendjng and chairing.  ;)
04:42:20 <dramsey> eof
04:42:42 <keshavmishra> FranciscoD:ask about that ticket which was left for open floor
04:42:55 <keshavmishra> eof
04:43:03 <FranciscoD> tuanta seems to have left
04:43:24 <bckurera> keshavmishra : I know India is covering a large geographical area, but is nt it possible to cover the requests with the support of university students?
04:44:00 <bckurera> keshavmishra : will discuss about this off the meeting
04:44:12 <keshavmishra> ok :)
04:44:33 <FranciscoD> bckurera: university students don't earn. They *cannot* send out freemedia. I've been there. It's very heavy when you're on a limited allowance.
04:44:52 <FranciscoD> I'd rather expect volunteers who earn to do this, than students.
04:45:17 <FranciscoD> anyway, if nothing else, I'll end meeting
04:45:20 * FranciscoD counts down
04:45:36 <bckurera> FranciscoD : They should not bear the cost anyway and that is not what I meant.
04:45:53 <FranciscoD> bckurera: let me end the meeting, and we can talk about this
04:45:58 <FranciscoD> Not really ambassadors related :)
04:46:04 <bckurera> FranciscoD : In here we have some stocks with the students and when there is a request they can get it from the nearest university
04:46:04 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting