06:02:00 <tagoh_> #startmeeting i18n
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06:02:00 <tagoh_> #meetingname i18n
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06:02:01 <tagoh_> #topic agenda and roll call
06:02:02 <tagoh_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-01-17
06:02:07 <mfabian> hi!
06:02:12 <tagoh_> okay, shall we have a meeting
06:02:59 <epico> hi
06:03:57 <dueno> hi
06:05:56 <fujiwarat> hi
06:09:20 <tagoh_> okay, let's get started.
06:09:31 <tagoh_> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:09:31 <tagoh_> #info 2013-01-29        Feature Submission Deadline
06:09:59 <tagoh_> not yet decided other than that.
06:10:45 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding task
06:10:45 <tagoh_> #info #8: Hinting related issues for Liberation_Fonts_2 on Fedora 18 (pravins)
06:10:46 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/8
06:11:15 <tagoh_> just checked the relnotes and related things has been gone. so we can close this ticket now.
06:11:48 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding topics
06:11:48 <tagoh_> #info #9: Fedora 19 Feature planning (tagoh)
06:11:48 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/9
06:12:11 <tagoh_> so does anyone submit/create a feature page yet?
06:12:45 <dueno> created a draft but not submitted yet
06:12:59 <tagoh_> url please? :)
06:13:13 <dueno> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/libkkc
06:13:13 <juhp> tagoh_, is feature deadline not still 29 Jan?
06:13:56 <tagoh_> juhp: I think it is.
06:14:07 <juhp> ok
06:14:15 <tagoh_> dueno: thanks
06:16:02 <juhp> dueno, great
06:17:03 <tagoh_> dunno if we are also planning to have one for lohit and i-t-b? guess I should ping later when I catch up them
06:18:41 <tagoh_> anything else?
06:18:49 <tagoh_> if not, let's move on.
06:20:05 <tagoh_> #info #11: ibus xkb layout migration with upgrade (petersen)
06:20:05 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/11
06:20:43 <tagoh_> upstream bug is fixed and updates are now in testing...
06:20:50 <tagoh_> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-settings-daemon-3.6.4-2.fc18
06:21:51 <tagoh_> need some volunteers to get more karma to push to stable
06:22:01 <juhp> aha
06:22:43 <juhp> let me try to test it later too
06:22:50 <tagoh_> juhp: thanks!
06:24:50 <tagoh_> okay, move on then.
06:24:56 <tagoh_> #topic New topics
06:24:56 <tagoh_> #info #12: language support installation command (pnemade)
06:24:57 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/12
06:25:17 <tagoh_> paragan: are you there?
06:25:20 <paragan> yes
06:25:47 <paragan> should we change yum groupinstall to yum langinstall ?
06:27:18 <tagoh_> hm, sounds good to me though, does yum-langpacks pick up the lang specific packages which is in the lang group?
06:27:58 <paragan> from my testing, yes
06:28:47 <tagoh_> FWIW it may be a good idea to move that content from I18N/Indic to somewhere at I18N. it can be non-Indic specific thing.
06:29:43 <paragan> language support installation section is only generic
06:30:02 <tagoh_> right
06:31:20 <paragan> I will move it somewhere under /I18N
06:31:38 <tagoh_> cool
06:31:59 <tagoh_> if missing something, we could improve it later.
06:32:17 <tagoh_> any other comments for this?
06:32:31 <tagoh_> I mean groupinstall vs langinstall
06:35:38 <paragan> cool. I will change it to langinstall, move that section under /I18N
06:36:57 <tagoh_> paragan: hmm, just did a quick test - it looks like behaving different for me. tried to remove ibus-anthy first and did groupinstall japanese-support and langinstall ja or ja_JP. ibus-anthy got installed only when groupinstall. guess it's not the langpack at all so I guess it should be expected behavior but it's what I'm concerned.
06:38:01 <paragan> oh
06:38:41 <paragan> I need to test non-indic group support
06:39:01 <tagoh_> dunno I may did wrong.
06:39:14 <tagoh_> paragan: yeah, that would be nice.
06:40:06 <paragan> ok I will test it again and update the ticket accordingly
06:40:12 <tagoh_> paragan: so bring it up again once you've done some testing for non-Indic.
06:40:14 <tagoh_> okay
06:40:18 <paragan> sure
06:40:45 <tagoh_> #action paragan to test non-Indic languages with yum langinstall
06:41:14 <tagoh_> #info #14: Fedora 16 bugs cleanup (tagoh)
06:41:15 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/14
06:42:25 <juhp> I think langinstall is only for langpacks
06:42:35 <tagoh_> so as you may be aware by EOL comments at bz, we need to revisit f16 bugs to see if it's still present in the latest, if no activities.
06:42:49 <juhp> ah yes
06:43:36 <tagoh_> from the dashboard on the agenda, we have 38 bugs open for f16 now.
06:44:27 <tagoh_> so I'd encourage you to check your own f16 bugs first and other bugs later.
06:45:22 <tagoh_> this is just a first call, so I don't pick up them here today, but just a reminder.
06:46:29 <tagoh_> if you can see an issue on f18 even, add a comment so and change the version to avoid auto-close
06:46:57 <tagoh_> any comments?
06:48:20 <tagoh_> okay, move on then.
06:48:23 <tagoh_> #topic Open Floor
06:48:34 <tagoh_> any other topics to discuss?
06:51:21 <tagoh_> if not, close the meeting shortly.
06:52:56 <tagoh_> okay, thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:53:02 <tagoh_> #endmeeting