01:00:03 <inode0> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 24 01:00:03 2012 UTC. The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:03 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:05 <inode0> #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:16 <inode0> #topic Roll Call 01:00:22 * kk4ewt 01:00:32 * award3535 01:00:41 * masta 01:01:14 <inode0> #chair kk4ewt award3535 masta 01:01:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 inode0 kk4ewt masta 01:01:19 <inode0> #topic Announcements 01:01:41 * lh here 01:01:47 <chanchito> greetings 01:02:15 <inode0> #chair lh chanchito 01:02:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 chanchito inode0 kk4ewt lh masta 01:02:19 <farmerrob> greetings 01:02:22 <inode0> last call for announcements 01:02:35 <award3535> F18 alfa is out 01:02:37 <inode0> #chair farmerrob 01:02:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 chanchito farmerrob inode0 kk4ewt lh masta 01:02:41 <masta> I think fedora-arm is going to release f18 alpha image any day now 01:02:59 <masta> that's all I got 01:03:01 <farmerrob> nice 01:03:39 <inode0> #info fedora-arm release of F18 alpha soon 01:03:52 <inode0> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:04:02 <inode0> #topic Tickets 01:04:27 <inode0> There are only three tickets pending and I've got nothing on any of them so does anyone else? 01:04:54 <award3535> just waiting for more infomration for FADNA 01:05:23 <masta> oh darn... wanted to make a google doc like last week, except for ticket #33 swag 01:05:35 <inode0> I am waiting for a lot of stuff and you know waiting just results in a sore butt 01:05:52 <award3535> LMAO 01:05:59 <inode0> you know the saying, if you want anything done ... 01:06:03 <award3535> youre absolutely correct 01:06:11 <award3535> do it my self 01:06:23 <kk4ewt> i am waiting for nb so get a guess of the swag he has 01:06:48 * inode0 is about to burst into a Tom Petty song now 01:07:04 <dramsey> +1 01:07:12 <award3535> which one 01:07:32 <inode0> The Waiting of course :) 01:08:01 <masta> ok 01:08:02 <award3535> what do we need to set up? 01:08:47 <masta> shall we go through the tickets ? 01:08:56 <farmerrob> yes 01:08:59 <inode0> aside from all the stuff we have already talked about I guess since there is an actual hotel now someone needs to find out if we can reserve a conference room there for a day 01:09:01 <kk4ewt> the last one anyways 01:09:19 <masta> .famnaticket 33 01:09:21 <zodbot> masta: #33 (2012 Fedora Merchandise Order) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/33 01:09:21 * inode0 will go through any ticket someone asks for, otherwise it seems pointless 01:09:22 <award3535> anyone in the area that can do that 01:09:36 <masta> 2012 fedora merch 01:09:43 <inode0> anyone can do that 01:09:51 <inode0> it just requires a phone 01:10:34 <masta> so we got any central place tracking all the swag ideas? 01:10:41 <masta> and costs? 01:11:01 <masta> did anybody want to propose any new swag ideas? 01:11:10 <farmerrob> Bens Spread sheet? 01:11:16 <inode0> in that ticket there were a lot of wild suggestions 01:11:23 <kk4ewt> farmerrob: my spreadsheet is for events 01:11:36 <inode0> has anyone gone out and done the work to get a quote on any of it? no 01:11:58 <farmerrob> sorry thought it was 2 01:12:08 <masta> yea.... people are beign lazy on this one (myself included) 01:12:20 <inode0> I'm waiting to hear back about shirts but I'd just as soon not report I haven't heard anything every week 01:12:32 <inode0> I'll update when I hear something - it will happen though 01:12:53 <masta> ok... 01:13:02 <inode0> kk4ewt and I talked about restocking balloons - I think we should 01:13:13 <kk4ewt> myself i am not in favor for any more Beefy Miracle stuff 01:13:33 <inode0> no, Beefy Miracle is at the end of its run 01:13:45 <kk4ewt> but case badges is a yes 01:13:58 <kk4ewt> and we need to distrubute the remaining tattoos 01:13:59 <inode0> we should have thousands of those somewhere 01:14:02 <inode0> nb: ping 01:14:25 <kk4ewt> nb put his inventory on the ticket 01:15:08 <inode0> not in the ticket we are talking about though?! 01:15:14 <kk4ewt> yes 01:15:20 <kk4ewt> #33 01:15:23 <inode0> hrm, why don't I see it 01:15:41 <masta> #action ambassadors need to research the swag they want, get pricing, make proposal. 01:16:02 <inode0> I don't see anything from nb there, does anyone else? 01:16:21 <chanchito> nothing else i think 01:16:31 <masta> inode0: affirmative, no nb in that ticket 01:16:43 <kk4ewt> nb has (per trac ticket): 01:16:43 <kk4ewt> a few sheets of keyboard stickers 01:16:43 <kk4ewt> quite a few shirts and pens and laptop stickers 01:16:43 <kk4ewt> maybe 15 strips of case badges 01:17:15 <inode0> I think that has to be very old because he just bought something like 5000 case badges this year 01:18:42 <inode0> if we burned through that in 3 months I'd be interested in where they went 01:18:50 <chanchito> 5000? 01:18:53 <chanchito> wow 01:18:59 <award3535> yeah wow 01:19:14 <inode0> I think we actually bought 10000 but only part of that was for NA 01:19:20 <chanchito> did we hand them out at every consecutive event? 01:19:44 <award3535> I only had a hand full at the last two i did 01:19:52 <kk4ewt> i know what i sent to events and used at events i was at 01:20:01 <inode0> everyone I know is low or out - but I think nb has boxes 01:20:07 <chanchito> if every event received some, from the time the badges arrived, i could see a few thousand being gone 01:20:23 <chanchito> maybe not 5000 01:20:29 <kk4ewt> chanchito: and i sent you 150 01:20:30 <chanchito> but say 2500 01:20:31 <inode0> there haven't been very many events, this was recently 01:20:39 <inode0> they can't be used 01:20:41 <chanchito> i sent them back 01:20:53 <chanchito> i only have stickers left 01:20:57 <kk4ewt> chanchito: so they went to the summit 01:21:00 <chanchito> i returned everything else 01:21:16 <award3535> I have a few stickers and a few buttons thats it 01:21:28 <chanchito> i'm saving the stickers for the WPI event and for Harvard Business School 01:21:58 <chanchito> i still have some pens too 01:21:59 <inode0> #agreed Everyone at the meeting is low on swag and would like to know where all those new case badges are now :) 01:22:12 <kk4ewt> did anyone send jds2001 swag? 01:22:27 <chanchito> are we able to track down how many were shipped and to whom? 01:22:48 <inode0> are you able to track down nb? 01:22:49 <chanchito> i remember sending in a swag from my two events 01:23:03 <kk4ewt> chanchito: i know what i sent to events yes 01:23:06 <chanchito> oops meant a swag count 01:23:13 <kk4ewt> do i have it documented no 01:23:18 <chanchito> sorry, just asking 01:23:23 <chanchito> no offense meant 01:23:28 <chanchito> only curious if we tracked 01:23:30 <inode0> none taken 01:23:46 <inode0> just saying, only the guy with them knows how many he sent where exactly 01:24:09 <inode0> we all know it wasn't to us so I'm expecting he still has them 01:24:12 <chanchito> hopefully, some folks who are not here tonight, have some and we can find out later 01:24:35 <masta> ok we can move on to ticket 36 soon, anybody else have things to say about #33? 01:24:37 <chanchito> im sure they are not all gone 01:24:42 <chanchito> nada 01:25:03 <masta> otay, moving on 01:25:10 <award3535> +1 01:25:21 <masta> .famnaticket 36 01:25:23 <zodbot> masta: #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 01:25:43 <masta> we talked a little about the hotel and conf room 01:25:59 <masta> my feeling is we dont' need a local to make a phone call 01:26:09 <masta> can somebody tell me the hotel? 01:26:17 <award3535> spring hill 01:26:22 <inode0> we really don't have a local anyway 01:26:47 <award3535> i would be willing to call and see what is available and a cost 01:26:47 <chanchito> anyone with a reservation can call a hotel and book a conference room during the course of their stay, all that is required is for the hotel to charge the fee to a room or card, unless it's free 01:27:25 <chanchito> we do it all the time at work, just did it sunday at the marriott in bethlehem, penn 01:27:27 <inode0> we would like to reserve it and have Fedora pay for it - but first we need to find out what it costs and get that approved 01:27:41 <chanchito> find a hotel that offers free conferencing 01:27:52 <chanchito> free wifi and free projectors, audio, etc 01:27:56 <chanchito> better value 01:28:12 <inode0> we will be at the FUDCon hotel - I'm sure they picked the best option 01:28:17 <masta> great excuse to go ahead with the room booking 01:28:18 <chanchito> ok 01:28:21 <chanchito> awesome 01:28:27 <chanchito> yes indeed 01:28:43 <award3535> I am willing to find out 01:28:57 <masta> award3535: ok, your action item 01:29:11 <award3535> roger 01:29:12 <masta> award3535: let me know if you want any help 01:29:40 <kk4ewt> so we have a hotel do we know the priceing? 01:30:00 <inode0> yes it is on the FUDCon page 01:30:34 <masta> #action award3535 is going to get pricing on the conf room. 01:30:46 <inode0> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Lawrence_2013#Lodging 01:31:29 <chanchito> 119 per night 01:31:42 <masta> does anybody have a projector, just incase one is not available? 01:31:51 <chanchito> yes i have two 01:31:57 <chanchito> epson and infocus 01:32:16 <chanchito> i can bring mine, plus tripods, lighting, mikes, mike stands, etc 01:32:24 <chanchito> i have podiums, etc 01:32:43 <masta> chanchito: great, and hopefully we won't have to ask you nicely to bring them... ;) 01:33:05 <masta> chanchito: wow... you in the speaking biz or what? 01:33:10 <kk4ewt> inode0: i think we need to get ian to get the block extended for wednesday 01:33:15 <chanchito> used to teach 01:33:50 <chanchito> all my equipment is collecting dust at home, so i prefer to use it 01:34:58 <masta> ok, moving on to the next ticket soon.... any more fadna things to go over? 01:35:22 <award3535> +1 01:35:26 <masta> .famnaticket 44 01:35:28 <zodbot> masta: #44 (CPOSC 2012) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/44 01:36:01 * masta tickles jds2001 01:36:22 <kk4ewt> i had the event box and vbanners shipped from richmond to cposc 01:36:27 <inode0> suehle: ping 01:36:58 * lcameron is here, was active in wrong channel 01:37:23 <inode0> can you help with extending the hotel block to include Wednesday for FADNA participants? 01:37:35 <masta> #info the event box was sent to cposc 2012 01:38:12 <masta> #topic Open floor! 01:38:58 <kk4ewt> so did anyonesend cposc any swag ? 01:39:13 <award3535> anyone scheduled for lectures for FADNA 01:39:16 <dramsey> :p Sends a Spherical Cow bearing IPA energy to all. :p 01:39:27 * inode0 assumes jds2001 will remind us if he doesn't have enough 01:39:41 <kk4ewt> inode0: i didnt send any 01:40:06 <inode0> well, he was at puppetconf with rbergeron and who knows what he has now ... I don't 01:41:14 <kk4ewt> i dont either 01:41:25 <kk4ewt> but we need to do something tomorrow 01:41:28 <inode0> it is a small event so I am guessing he is all set or he would come to a meeting 01:41:30 <kk4ewt> at the latest 01:42:13 <inode0> he sent me receipts a couple days ago, didn't say anything about needing stuff 01:42:48 <award3535> humm sounds like he is ready to go 01:43:01 <kk4ewt> @action kk4ewt is emailing jds2001 to check on swag 01:43:09 <award3535> if he something guess he will ask 01:43:13 <kk4ewt> #action kk4ewt is emailing jds2001 to check on swag 01:45:43 <inode0> next week might be trick or treat night - so I might be eating candy 01:46:06 <award3535> nope, its wednesday 01:46:15 <inode0> varies from city to city 01:46:34 <award3535> true, I do live in the bible belt 01:47:19 <inode0> but it is wednesday here too now that I check 01:47:30 <award3535> but I will be home, the wife will be getting home fromt he hospital after surgery 01:47:38 <inode0> that might mean more candy for me since the kids won't have been here yet :) 01:48:07 <award3535> ours will be done by 8pm est 01:48:59 <inode0> any other ambassador stuff for tonight then? 01:49:08 <award3535> none from me 01:49:33 <farmerrob> I am good 01:50:08 <lh> +1 01:50:24 <nb> hi 01:50:27 <nb> oh, we are having open floor now? 01:50:28 * nb has something 01:50:31 <nb> Spot will be sending OLPC 1.75's for the event boxes soon 01:50:31 <inode0> ok, please pitch in on preparing FADNA - I'm getting a little worried about it 01:50:33 <nb> after i ping him with addresses 01:50:35 <nb> kk4ewt, can you send me your address? 01:50:38 <nb> kk4ewt, to get a olpc 1.75 for the event box from spot 01:50:41 <nb> have we discussed the reimbursement draft yet? 01:50:47 <inode0> nb: where are all the case badges? :) 01:50:53 <nb> Have we discussed http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_Reimbursement_Guidelineshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_Reimbursement_Guidelines yet? 01:51:06 * nb apologizes, i wasn't connected so I don't have scrollback to check 01:51:12 <nb> inode0, in my garage 01:51:13 <nb> who needs them still? 01:51:15 <kk4ewt> nb emailed 01:51:15 <nb> I sent out some 01:51:16 <inode0> it wasn't on the agenda so I can't imagine how we would have known to talk about it 01:51:31 <kk4ewt> nb how many do you have 01:51:31 <nb> oh ok sorry 01:52:03 * inode0 is happy to hear what you have to say about it though 01:52:10 <nb> kk4ewt, probably 4-5k i think? 01:52:16 <nb> rough estimate 01:52:30 <nb> i think i still owe some to LATAM 01:52:34 <nb> and maybe APAC 01:52:57 <dramsey> +1 01:53:08 <inode0> can we find out? 01:53:42 <award3535> the link shows no content 01:53:56 <inode0> the link is screwed up 01:55:13 <nb> inode0, yes, i will find out 01:55:27 <inode0> click on half the link :) 01:55:32 <nb> I am 90% sure that i am still waiting on APAC and LATAM to send me an address 01:55:42 <BobJensen> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_Reimbursement_Guidelines 01:55:42 <dramsey> ? 01:55:46 <nb> i think i sent out most of NA's allocation 01:55:59 <inode0> to where? no one seems to have any 01:56:14 <nb> inode0, I will look and will email the list in the next day or two 01:57:17 <inode0> the real question is do we need to buy more? seems we shouldn't if we bought 10k or something 5 months ago 01:57:52 <nb> afaik part of our 10k was for emea latam apac 01:57:56 <nb> or was it 10k+theirs 01:58:05 <inode0> yes, 2k leaving us 4k 01:58:17 <nb> I sent the 2k for EMEA to sesivany 01:58:25 <nb> just a sec, i will run out there and look uip what i have for sur 01:59:30 <inode0> we may need inventory software :) 01:59:43 <dramsey> hahaha 02:00:09 <kk4ewt> inode0: no we need someone to count it all and no one is willing 02:00:16 <chanchito> ill send another inventory again too 02:00:22 <masta> lh: did you do any digging into the companies that stock inventory and ship? 02:01:05 <kk4ewt> chanchito: yours is so small dont worry about it 02:01:19 <masta> [crickets chirping] 02:01:28 <inode0> chanchito: I don't think we need to know about what stuff ambassadors have - it is more a regional shipper problem 02:01:29 <lh> masta, i found one but i have not contacted them 02:01:43 <masta> lh: ok -thanks for the update 02:02:07 <nb> inode0, i have approx 6k of them 02:02:12 <nb> 4k of which are apac and latam 02:02:41 <inode0> how about splitting up the rest and shooting them to the regional shippers then? 02:02:48 <lh> np 02:03:31 <inode0> I'm curious where the other 2000 went but it doesn't really matter 02:03:41 <inode0> Do you want to talk about that link? 02:03:50 <nb> inode0, i sent some IIRC to rbergeron 02:04:04 <nb> and i still owed ben his 02:04:06 <inode0> leave her out this time then :) 02:04:14 <nb> ben and robyn and I are the only ones that ship now right? 02:04:27 <nb> oh, busguy 02:04:29 <inode0> Scott does sort of 02:05:11 <inode0> Do you want to talk about the link? Last chance ... we are over time now. 02:05:13 <nb> sorry, next time i will keep better track of who i send stuff to 02:05:19 <nb> sure 02:05:28 <nb> FYI that link is a draft of the reimbursement guidelines for NA 02:05:34 <nb> basically just to spell out how we already do stuff 02:05:52 <nb> FAmSCo is trying to make all the regions have more freedom, similar to how we have done stuff for a while in NA 02:05:58 <nb> so the regions can approve stuff themselves 02:06:16 <nb> although we know the issue of how much budget each region gets still needs to be worked on 02:06:25 <nb> Send any comments to herlo and I 02:06:32 <nb> although it is still a work in progress 02:06:35 <nb> EOF (i think) 02:07:49 <inode0> I have plenty but I don't want this to go on much longer. 02:08:06 <dramsey> Great meeting. :D 02:08:06 <dramsey> inode0, thank you for chairing. :) 02:08:25 <kk4ewt> i think we let herlo finish his document 02:08:31 <inode0> We can discuss it maybe in the ambassador channel later 02:08:35 <inode0> or that too 02:09:10 <award3535> I am out everyone, have a great evening...... 02:09:32 <farmerrob> Yes nite all :-) 02:09:40 <inode0> ok, thanks everyone 02:09:44 <lh> thanks all 02:09:52 <dramsey> :P 02:10:02 <inode0> #endmeeting