04:01:00 <dramsey> #startmeeting APAC Meeting 2012-10-13
04:01:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Oct 13 04:01:00 2012 UTC.  The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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04:01:05 <arifiauo> +1
04:01:10 <dramsey> #meetingname APAC Meeting 2012-10-13
04:01:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac_meeting_2012-10-13'
04:01:31 <dramsey> #chair arifiauo udinnet KageSenshi kaio_ph
04:01:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: KageSenshi arifiauo dramsey kaio_ph udinnet
04:01:37 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
04:01:37 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
04:01:43 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-10-13#Agenda
04:01:44 <arifiauo> .fas arifiauo
04:01:44 <zodbot> arifiauo: arifiauo 'Arif Tri Waluyo' <arifiauo@gmail.com>
04:01:45 <udinnet> .fas udinnet
04:01:47 <zodbot> udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' <udithabnd@gmail.com>
04:01:49 <mbuf> .fas shakthimaan
04:01:50 <zodbot> mbuf: shakthimaan 'Shakthi Kannan' <shakthimaan@gmail.com>
04:01:58 <dramsey> #chair mbuf
04:01:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: KageSenshi arifiauo dramsey kaio_ph mbuf udinnet
04:02:01 <dramsey> Hello Everyone.
04:02:13 <udinnet> :)
04:02:40 <dramsey> Did I get everyone here for APAC?
04:02:55 <udinnet> I think so
04:03:01 <dramsey> 8-)
04:03:09 <dramsey> Let us go to Topics
04:03:11 <dramsey> #topic News from FAmSCo
04:03:21 <dramsey> We will come back to this topic.
04:03:28 <dramsey> #topic Review  action items from last meeting
04:03:35 <dramsey> tuanta propose One "central" place to list all discs/swag needs (per  release) for APAC ambassadors
04:03:42 <dramsey> I think this is important.
04:03:42 <arifiauo> we miss tuanta today
04:03:59 <dramsey> May be bckurera and tuanta join soon.  ;)
04:04:21 <udinnet> Ha ha :D
04:04:21 <dramsey> Any ideas on tuanta -
04:04:24 <dramsey> #chair tuanta
04:04:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: KageSenshi arifiauo dramsey kaio_ph mbuf tuanta udinnet
04:04:31 <udinnet> hello tuanta
04:04:36 <arifiauo> hi tuanta :)
04:04:39 <dramsey> Tuan - tuanta "tuanta propose One "central" place to list all discs/swag needs (per  release) for APAC ambassadors " we are here.  :D
04:04:40 <tuanta> hi
04:04:42 <tuanta> my net :(
04:04:47 <dramsey> Perfect timing.
04:04:58 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:04:58 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:05:50 <dramsey> Everyone, any ideas on "tuanta propose One "central" place to list all discs/swag needs (per  release) for APAC ambassadors?"  :)
04:06:00 <udinnet> so tuanta, it is your action item is on the floor :)
04:06:41 <tuanta> !
04:06:43 <dramsey> I think is sort of discussion for us to think about
04:06:47 <dramsey> Please tuanta
04:07:32 <tuanta> my idea is focused on how to produce media, swags centrally and distribute them around
04:07:54 <dramsey> +1
04:08:03 <tuanta> thanks for people contributed to that idea
04:08:20 <tuanta> at this time, we have got solution for swags
04:09:14 <udinnet> !
04:09:15 <tuanta> we can produce extra packs once per year at the same time of FUDCon APAC, and people can take back after FUDCon
04:10:05 <arifiauo> +1
04:10:08 <tuanta> media is more difficult because of barriers on tax and law in each country
04:10:14 <dramsey> +1
04:10:47 <tuanta> and because we need to produce media twice per year (for two releases)
04:11:13 <tuanta> so at this time, the best solution is still producing them locally
04:11:14 <tuanta> eof
04:11:28 <dramsey> Excellent information Tuan - tuanta.  I support
04:11:31 <dramsey> udinnet, please
04:11:43 <udinnet> ok then, what are the advantages of producing swags in a central place. Of course they will in a same standard for every country. But what about the shipping cost?
04:11:56 <udinnet> Isn't it a extra cost?
04:12:06 <udinnet> Isn't it an extra cost?
04:12:13 <tuanta> !
04:12:25 <tuanta> eof, udinnet??
04:12:31 <udinnet> eof
04:12:32 <udinnet> :)
04:12:36 <dramsey> Thank you, udinnet
04:12:41 <dramsey> tuanta please
04:13:18 <arifiauo> udinnet, If we can come to FUDCon, we no extra charge, right?
04:13:46 <tuanta> yes, IMO, we should separate media (twice per year) and other swags (buttons, stickers, etc.)
04:13:58 <udinnet> of couse arifiauo but we only have one fudcon for year. But we have 2 releases per year
04:14:23 <arifiauo> udinnet, that just for swags
04:14:31 <arifiauo> :)
04:14:54 <udinnet> ok :)
04:14:56 <tuanta> ihmo, swags should be produced centrally by FUDCon APAC host, but media should be produced locally
04:15:11 <udinnet> ok that is cool
04:15:20 <arifiauo> +1
04:15:24 <tuanta> does this make sense to you?
04:15:27 <mbuf> tuanta: +1
04:15:29 <dramsey> +1
04:15:29 <tuanta> eof.
04:15:40 <dramsey> Very good Tuanta, makes sense to me.
04:15:46 <udinnet> me too
04:15:59 <dramsey> ?
04:16:08 <tuanta> ok, dramsey
04:16:20 <dramsey> Any #idea #action #info for this from everyone.
04:16:21 <dramsey> eof
04:16:24 <arifiauo> !
04:16:32 <KageSenshi> +1
04:16:44 <dramsey> Yes, arifiauo
04:16:56 <arifiauo> what if we make "central" place for media in each country?
04:17:52 <tuanta> arifiauo, that's country's issue. You can discuss with your local folks
04:17:59 <dramsey> +1
04:18:00 <udinnet> +1 tuanta
04:18:02 <tuanta> IMHO, it's good.
04:18:02 <KageSenshi> +1
04:18:06 <mbuf> arifiauo: the meaning of "central" can differ in each country, and hence decentralization helps when producing media locally
04:18:14 <dramsey> +1
04:18:40 <dramsey> ?
04:19:53 <tuanta> #idea for APAC: swags should be produced centrally by FUDCon APAC host (then participants can take them back after FUDCon), but media should be produced locally
04:20:09 <dramsey> +1
04:20:17 <dramsey> Excellent points.  Please #idea, #info and #action your concerns as points.
04:20:17 <dramsey> Depends on country "Ambassadors" and country situation, therefore more freedom to help us all.  :D
04:20:17 <dramsey> eof
04:20:22 <arifiauo> +1 tuanta
04:22:40 <dramsey> Other thoughts or considerations?  Next topic?
04:22:42 <dramsey> eof
04:22:53 <udinnet> next topic please
04:22:58 <tuanta> next, please
04:23:23 <dramsey> #topic APAC  Events: plans, status, reports
04:23:35 <dramsey> #link http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-ambassadors-tasks.html
04:23:53 <dramsey> There are great information for planning Fedora 18
04:24:02 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_release_events
04:24:11 <dramsey> Everyone please update this wiki with your Fedora 18 Release  Events!
04:24:11 <dramsey> eof
04:24:20 <dramsey> Oh
04:24:23 <dramsey> two other information
04:24:24 <arifiauo> Should we make it #agreed "APAC: swags should be produced centrally by FUDCon APAC host (then participants can take them back after FUDCon), but media should be produced locally"?
04:24:28 <dramsey> Release Event Submission Deadline - Fri 2012-11-09
04:24:29 <dramsey> eof
04:24:35 <dramsey> Hold Release Events and Publish Event Reports - Tue 2012-11-27 until Fri  2012-12-28
04:24:37 <dramsey> eof
04:24:41 <dramsey> yes, arifiauo
04:24:52 <dramsey> Good question.
04:25:03 <dramsey> I like it.  Others?
04:25:57 <udinnet> +1 from here
04:26:26 <dramsey> +1
04:26:35 <tuanta> +1
04:26:47 <udinnet> go ahead arifiauo , make it #agreed
04:27:23 <kaio_ph> +1
04:27:25 <arifiauo> #agreed APAC: swags should be produced centrally by FUDCon APAC host (then participants can take them back after FUDCon), but media should be produced locally
04:27:32 <dramsey> :)
04:27:48 <udinnet> B)
04:28:00 <dramsey> ?
04:28:44 <arifiauo> back to topic :)
04:28:44 <udinnet> !
04:28:49 <dramsey> Correction "  Tue 2012-12-04 Fri 2013-01-04" Hold Release Events and Publish Event Reports
04:28:49 <dramsey> and
04:28:49 <dramsey> "Fri 2012-11-16" Release Event Submission Deadline
04:28:49 <dramsey> eof
04:28:52 <dramsey> yes, udinnet
04:29:09 <udinnet> I have some event plans coming up
04:29:49 <udinnet> There are plans for 2 events in Schools and 1 event in a IT institute
04:30:02 <udinnet> #link http://www.nibm.lk/
04:30:26 <udinnet> I will be needing some media for those events
04:30:26 <tuanta> +1 udinnet
04:30:41 <dramsey> +1 sending support and swag to help!  :D
04:31:21 <udinnet> But I'm kinda in a problem of deciding which version of media to be produced
04:31:29 <udinnet> F17 or F 18
04:31:50 <udinnet> F18 to be released on 12-04
04:32:13 <udinnet> It is too late to produce media
04:32:22 <tuanta> that's a big issue for all of us, I think
04:32:29 <udinnet> So I think we need to go with F17 :)
04:32:35 <mbuf> udinnet: if giving it for others, F17 should be okay, IMO
04:32:41 <dramsey> +1
04:32:44 <arifiauo> +1
04:32:47 <udinnet> +1 mbuf
04:32:47 <dramsey> ?
04:32:57 <tuanta> we must distribute the new release media, while we do not have enough time to produce it
04:33:05 <dramsey> +1
04:33:13 <dramsey> udinnet When is your events schedule? eof
04:33:16 <tuanta> that's another reason why we should produce media locally
04:33:39 <udinnet> Most probably on end of Nov
04:33:39 <dramsey> +1 tuanta
04:33:41 <udinnet> :)
04:33:48 <tuanta> !
04:33:53 <dramsey> Cool  Therefore F17 best
04:33:57 <dramsey> Yes, tuanta
04:34:12 <tuanta> we organize a release party for F18 while distribute the old one?
04:34:16 <tuanta> it that good?
04:34:33 <tuanta> IMHO, it's not good, at least with Vietnamese :)
04:34:42 <arifiauo> ?
04:34:45 <tuanta> eogf
04:34:47 <tuanta> eof
04:35:17 <dramsey> Understood tuanta
04:35:25 <dramsey> yes, arifiauo\
04:35:42 <arifiauo> udinnet, how much media do you need? and how much it costs to produce it?
04:36:25 <udinnet> From our side, they are not release parties, I like to call them as Fedora tech events.
04:37:00 <udinnet> arifiauo: I'm still working on it. Still didn't got the correct count of the audience
04:37:37 <mbuf> udinnet: +1 for Fedora tech events
04:37:50 <udinnet> I'm hoping to get support from our other LK ambassadors
04:37:55 <udinnet> Thanks mbuf
04:38:46 <udinnet> eof
04:38:50 <dramsey> +1
04:39:15 <dramsey> Last of this topic is a reference to events as well as FUDCON 2013 by Indonesia
04:39:17 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Indonesia_2013
04:39:21 <dramsey> eof
04:39:32 <dramsey> Oh, any more for this topic or next topic?
04:39:32 <dramsey> eof
04:40:03 <tuanta> oh, good to see that. I did not recognize they submit a bid :)
04:40:21 <udinnet> What about PH bid?
04:40:27 <dramsey> :)
04:40:29 <udinnet> we miss azneita
04:40:35 <dramsey> Me too.  We discuss open discussion for FUDCon 2013 at Open Floor.
04:40:46 <udinnet> cool
04:40:48 <dramsey> We could make a question for information?
04:40:52 <dramsey> eof
04:41:25 <tuanta> estimate flight cost is not available for Vietnam :)
04:41:28 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Indonesia_2013#Estimated_Cost_of_Flights
04:41:54 <tuanta> it's open for my contribution, I see :)
04:42:09 <dramsey> +1
04:42:11 <udinnet> XD
04:42:30 <tuanta> oh, sorry, got that information (from Hanoi :)
04:42:50 <tuanta> but it's so expensive
04:43:04 <tuanta> that's bid is not feasible :(
04:43:19 <udinnet> That is what I'm gonna say
04:43:22 <udinnet> +1
04:43:41 <dramsey> +1
04:43:54 <tuanta> this should be considered more
04:44:07 <dramsey> +1 "#idea / #info ?"
04:44:28 <udinnet> IMO, We should bring this topic to Open Floor and discuss more
04:44:39 <dramsey> Yup
04:44:40 <dramsey> eof
04:44:43 <dramsey> Other thoughts or next topic?
04:44:52 <dramsey> eof
04:46:04 <arifiauo> +1 next topic
04:46:08 <dramsey> #topic Trac tickets
04:46:09 <tuanta> yes, please
04:46:32 <dramsey> I have no updated information on the this ticket.  Next topic?  Open Floor?
04:46:33 <dramsey> eof
04:46:50 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/1
04:47:02 <dramsey> +1
04:47:26 <udinnet> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/26
04:47:35 <tuanta> do you see any new (not processed) tickets?
04:47:37 <udinnet> is marked as clarification needed
04:47:51 <udinnet> That goes to KageSenshi
04:47:52 <udinnet> :)
04:47:55 <dramsey> +1
04:48:04 <KageSenshi> ??
04:48:15 <tuanta> hi KageSenshi :)
04:48:51 <KageSenshi> xD
04:48:54 <tuanta> that ticket has been solved at FUDCon KL. it should be closed.
04:49:01 <udinnet> +1
04:49:07 <KageSenshi> i think that ticket should be closed
04:49:12 <KageSenshi> +1 tuanta
04:49:42 <dramsey> +1
04:49:46 <arifiauo> +1
04:49:57 <tuanta> I just closed it
04:50:01 <dramsey> :D
04:50:05 <dramsey> thank you all.
04:50:07 <dramsey> Very good
04:50:10 <tuanta> any one else?
04:50:35 <arifiauo> !
04:50:42 <dramsey> yes, arifiauo
04:50:49 <arifiauo> #info There are also some tickets that should have been closed
04:51:25 <udinnet> Also there are lot of travel funding tickets still open @ fudcon-planning for FudCon KL
04:51:34 <dramsey> 8-)  Perfect!  :)
04:51:59 <arifiauo> #idea we need to contact the concerned to take care of it
04:52:13 <tuanta> if reimbursements have not done, let it be, I think
04:52:41 <tuanta> we should contact to ticket owners to check before doing any thing
04:52:51 <arifiauo> +1 tuanta
04:52:53 <udinnet> yes that is right.
04:53:24 <dramsey> Well done everyone
04:53:29 <tuanta> like what we have just done with KageSenshi :)
04:53:41 <tuanta> next, please
04:53:41 <dramsey> Anything else or next topic? Open Floor?
04:53:41 <KageSenshi> xD
04:53:47 <mbuf> dramsey: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/41
04:53:51 <KageSenshi> +1 openfloor~
04:54:02 <arifiauo> who will act for contact the ticket owner?
04:54:05 <dramsey> What is up with 41 ticket mbuf?
04:54:17 <mbuf> dramsey: would appreciate any decision on the funding request
04:54:51 <dramsey> Who is the owner of 41?
04:55:08 <ishaan__> hi dramsey
04:55:29 <mbuf> dramsey: not assigned yet
04:55:36 <dramsey> hi ishaan_ we will address your request at Open Floor.
04:55:51 <ishaan__> ok sir i will be waiting..
04:56:03 <mbuf> dramsey: had sent an e-mail to buddhike, but, haven't heard from him yet
04:56:05 <dramsey> Understood mbuf, sounds like a #info or #idea for update as well as ticket update eof
04:56:28 <ishaan__> okey sir i will be waiting
04:56:32 <dramsey> understood mbuf, buddhike reviews our logs, so let us do, eof
04:56:40 <dramsey> +1 ishaan__
04:56:43 <udinnet> mbuf: Buddike is out of the country and he is some what busy I think
04:56:43 <dramsey> eof
04:56:54 <tuanta> let me take this action (contact ticket owners)
04:56:58 <ishaan__> okey no other mentor from india?
04:57:17 <ishaan__> who is available
04:57:17 <mbuf> udinnet: I see
04:57:19 <ishaan__> ?
04:57:33 <dramsey> +1 udinnet and mbuf
04:57:49 <dramsey> Thank you, Tuan - tuanta
04:57:49 <dramsey> Next topic then?
04:58:14 <dramsey> ishaan__ please wait until next topic okay/
04:58:14 <ishaan__> ?
04:58:16 <tuanta> #action tuanta contact to all (open) ticket owners to check status
04:58:24 <ishaan__> okey sir
04:58:28 <mbuf> tuanta: thanks
04:58:39 <tuanta> ok, next then
04:58:45 <udinnet> next please
04:58:46 <dramsey> Perfect everyone
04:58:49 <dramsey> #topic Open Floor
04:59:05 <dramsey> We have FUDCon APAC 2013 as last part
04:59:12 <udinnet> :D
04:59:19 <dramsey> ishaan__ is looking for India Mentor informaiton
04:59:21 <dramsey> eof
04:59:30 <dramsey> Open Floor now.
04:59:36 <dramsey> The power is yours.
05:00:09 <ishaan__> dramsey is it necessary that my mentor should be from india only
05:00:09 <ishaan__> ?
05:00:15 <mbuf> ishaan__: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_choose_a_mentor
05:00:16 <KageSenshi> might be doing a release party on 2012-12-08 ..
05:00:29 <udinnet> +1 mbuf
05:00:37 <mbuf> gotta go; later folks!
05:00:52 <arifiauo> bye mbuf :)
05:01:00 <udinnet> bye mbuf
05:01:00 <mbuf> cya!
05:01:06 <dramsey> thank you mbuf
05:01:29 <dramsey> Good question ishaan__ have you applied?
05:01:36 <KageSenshi> met with the main guy in local mozilla community few days ago , they are planning to do an event on that date, and inviting us to join together with em ..
05:01:52 <ishaan__> i am applying
05:01:52 <dramsey> +1 KageSenshi
05:02:05 <KageSenshi> date still yet to be finalized
05:02:18 <udinnet> ishaan__: I think mbuf will be happy to mentor you, if you have completed the other steps.
05:02:19 <dramsey> #info ishaan__ is applying for application and future mentor
05:02:19 <dramsey> eof
05:02:30 <dramsey> +1
05:02:31 * KageSenshi thinking of asking for budget for some swags and a cake xD ..
05:02:38 <dramsey> :p
05:02:42 <udinnet> :D
05:02:56 <udinnet> So what aobut PH bid then?
05:03:04 <udinnet> *about
05:03:12 <ishaan__> mbuf will you be my mentor?
05:03:32 <dramsey> +1 udinnet
05:03:48 <dramsey> KageSenshi, sending power for your future Fedora
05:04:04 <dramsey> udinnet, sounds like a question / #info request what do you think?
05:04:15 <udinnet> ishaan__: mbuf has already leaved the channel. You can contact him directly via email
05:04:16 <dramsey> Now 04:04 UTC
05:04:16 <dramsey> eof
05:04:25 <ishaan__> m performing the necessary steps
05:04:26 <dramsey> +1 udinnet
05:04:30 <udinnet> dramsey: I think so
05:04:39 <dramsey> +1 ishaan__
05:04:42 <KageSenshi> dramsey, xD
05:04:50 <ishaan__> yes sir
05:04:59 <dramsey> Everyone please, #info and #idea as you like.
05:05:20 <dramsey> Other thoughts or considerations or information to share?
05:05:21 <dramsey> eof
05:05:33 <udinnet> #info Need updates about FUDCon 2013 Philippines bid
05:05:43 <dramsey> #idea Blue Fedora Cake for KageSenshi
05:05:43 <dramsey> eof
05:05:49 <KageSenshi> xD
05:05:53 <dramsey> hahaha
05:06:02 <udinnet> XD XD
05:06:24 <dramsey> Do we want to end meeting or continue?
05:06:24 <dramsey> eof
05:06:34 <udinnet> KageSenshi: I can remember the two Fedora cakes @ FUDCon KL
05:06:36 <udinnet> :D
05:06:43 <dramsey> :p
05:06:43 <KageSenshi> udinnet, lol
05:06:46 <KageSenshi> :P
05:07:29 <arifiauo> +1 end meeting
05:07:36 <udinnet> Any other #idea (s) #info (s) ?
05:07:55 <udinnet> eof from here
05:07:56 <dramsey> Thank you all for attending and let us try for next meeting on October 27th at 04:00 UTC.  :)
05:07:57 <dramsey> Sound good?
05:07:57 <dramsey> eof
05:08:15 <dramsey> Ending in 5
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05:08:20 <dramsey> 0.5
05:08:22 <arifiauo> thanks everyone, have a good day :)
05:08:30 <KageSenshi> :D
05:08:32 <dramsey> Need help for sending minutes any help?
05:08:35 <KageSenshi> have a nice weekend :)
05:08:38 <dramsey> Til next time!
05:08:39 <udinnet> I can do it
05:08:41 <udinnet> :)
05:08:43 <dramsey> Fedora energy to you all!
05:08:50 <dramsey> thank you udinnet
05:08:54 <dramsey> :D
05:08:55 <dramsey> #endmeeting