20:09:11 <sesivany> #startmeeting
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20:09:26 <sesivany> #meetingtopic EMEA Ambassadors 2012-08-29
20:09:38 <sesivany> #meetingname emea ambassadors
20:09:38 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors'
20:09:50 <sesivany> #topic Roll Call
20:09:54 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
20:09:55 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
20:09:57 <dmaphy> .fas dmaphy
20:09:58 <zodbot> dmaphy: dmaphy 'Dominic Hopf' <dmaphy@googlemail.com>
20:09:59 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
20:10:00 <cmpahar> .fas cmpahar
20:10:01 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
20:10:04 <zodbot> cmpahar: cmpahar 'Christos Bacharakis' <cmpahar@gmail.com>
20:10:09 <twohot> .fas twohot
20:10:10 <zodbot> twohot: twohot 'Onyeibo Oku' <twohotis@gmail.com>
20:10:17 <egydev> .fas egydev
20:10:18 <zodbot> egydev: egydev 'Ahmed Mohamed Araby' <araby.ahmed@gmail.com>
20:10:34 <arthurbuliva> .fas arthurbuliva
20:10:37 <zodbot> arthurbuliva: arthurbuliva 'Arthur Buliva' <arthurbuliva@gmail.com>
20:11:12 <sesivany> 7 of us, not bad this time
20:11:35 <sesivany> #topic Announcements
20:11:46 <sesivany> do you have any announcements?
20:12:28 <egydev> Yep , Thanks , the swag arrived :)
20:13:03 <sesivany> egydev: glad to hear that.
20:14:09 <sesivany> egydev: upload the receipt with the money you have to pay to customs. I'm sure we can reimburse you.
20:14:23 <sesivany> egydev: put it in the same ticket.
20:14:53 <sesivany> egydev: I'll get in touch with suehle and make sure you'll get the money soon.
20:15:23 <sesivany> any other announcements?
20:15:49 <sesivany> if not I've got one.
20:16:43 <sesivany> The season of test days is about to start. One of our goals this year is to get more people involved in testing during test days.
20:17:09 <sesivany> so we as ambassadors should promote Fedora test days as much as possible.
20:17:38 <sesivany> and we should also take part too
20:18:23 <sesivany> #info The season of F18 test days is about to start. Ambassadors should promote them in the community.
20:18:34 <egydev> sesivany, sorry disconnected :(
20:18:41 * twohot will find it hard to participate in test days
20:18:59 <sesivany> twohot: why? too little time?
20:19:09 <egydev> sesivany, anyway I've attached the receipt
20:19:24 <egydev> sesivany, thanks again
20:19:33 <sesivany> egydev: ok, I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
20:20:03 <sesivany> #link F18 Test Days Schedule: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_18_test_days
20:20:07 <twohot> sesivany: internet bandwidth
20:21:05 <sesivany> twohot: yeah, that's true. That could be a problem with little bandwidth :-(
20:21:49 <sesivany> any other announcement? if not let's move to the next topic.
20:22:36 <sesivany> ok, let's move on...
20:22:42 <sesivany> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:22:57 * sesivany is looking for the schedule
20:23:24 <sesivany> check out the schedule: http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:24:11 <sesivany> the schedule got slipped by one week.
20:25:01 <sesivany> unfortunately, there are serious problems with new Anaconda. More slips are expected. The catastrophic scenario is 6-week delay.
20:25:17 <fabian_a> .fas fab
20:25:20 <zodbot> fabian_a: dabel 'dabel fabian alvarenga' <dabel32@gmaill.com> - fabritux 'Fabrizzio Eduardo Moreno Rocha' <fabritux@gmail.com> - ffvieira 'fabio vieira' <fantazzini01@gmail.com> - ilefabed 'Chokri Youssef' <Chokri.ysf@gmail.com> - fabregas88 'Manuel Olmos Gil' <manuolmos88@gmail.com> - fabianhauser 'Fabian Hauser' <info@fh2.ch> - zed173 'Aaron Fabiani' <aaron.fabiani@cogeco.com> - paulina30 'paulina' (22 more messages)
20:25:50 <twohot> sesivany: serious? Links?
20:26:07 * robyduck thinks better a well working anaconda than a lot of install problems
20:27:05 <sesivany> #info Fedora 18 was slipped by one week. The new date for final release is Nov-13, but more slips are expected. Adjust your release party plans accordingly.
20:27:40 <sesivany> #link The current F18 Ambassadors schedule: http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:28:50 <sesivany> twohot: I have no links to support it. I speak with the Fedora program manager, Fedora QA and Anaconda guys every day at work. That's what I heard and saw :)
20:29:46 <sesivany> but 6 weeks is really the worst scenario, I expect it to be between 3-6 weeks, closer to 3.
20:31:02 <sesivany> Anything else to the schedule? There is still no task due.
20:31:42 <egydev> I think not
20:32:00 <sesivany> ok, if not I'll move to the next topic.
20:32:14 <sesivany> #topic EMEA budget
20:32:24 <sesivany> that's a special topic for today.
20:33:13 <sesivany> At FAmSCo, we decided on Mon that we will put most of the responsibility for budgeting on regions.
20:33:49 <sesivany> that means we will be much more responsible for our budget and spending that we've been so far.
20:34:32 <sesivany> every region is going to have someone who will handle the regional budget - a treasurer.
20:34:56 <sesivany> and guess who's going to be for EMEA... me
20:35:39 <egydev> that was expected :)
20:35:56 <sesivany> what I want you to do is to think what expenses you're going to have in the next two quarters (Sept-Nov, Dec-Feb).
20:36:28 <sesivany> we have to make our own budget and do budget planning.
20:37:42 <sesivany> which is why I'm going to create a wiki page for our budget planning. I'd like you to add all expenses you expect in the next two quarters.
20:38:59 <sesivany> of course there will be some cushion, but all major expenses and events should be there, otherwise we might not get money for them.
20:39:08 <robyduck> would it be helpful to have a budget rappresentative for every country? Just for making it easier for you sesivany?
20:40:41 <sesivany> robyduck: well, it depends. if there are more people in one country they can decide that only one person will do it for the whole country to make it easier. But I don't think we have many countries where there are many active ambassadors.
20:41:48 <robyduck> ok, but it could be in any case more comfortable for everyone, wouldn't it?
20:42:03 <sesivany> the whole "budgeting reform" hasn't been passed through FAmSCo yet, but we have to be ready for it.
20:42:15 <sesivany> robyduck: yes
20:42:18 <robyduck> also for the single ambassadors, who have a country based rappresentative, which is in contact with you
20:42:50 <gnokii> sesivany: lets move on and put that to open floor, when it needs discussion
20:43:11 <sesivany> gnokii: ok
20:44:03 <sesivany> #info We will need to start working on our own regional budget for the coming quarters. Think about what expenses we are going to have.
20:44:44 <sesivany> ok, let's move to the next topic...
20:44:59 <sesivany> #topic Events
20:45:22 <sesivany> anything on events? I guess gnokii has something. How was FrosCon?
20:46:26 <gnokii> FrOSCon was fine except that we was only 3 persons, so it was hard booth + devroom + me/workshop but we managed it, handed out arround 200DVD and had a lot of conversations
20:47:27 <gnokii> eof
20:47:58 <sesivany> gnokii: good to hear you made it after all, thanks! But I still don't see FrOSCon in the list of Fedora events. Please add it and also add a link to the event report.
20:48:34 <gnokii> sesivany: now have to repair my damaged body ;)
20:49:18 <sesivany> gnokii: get a beer. that's what I do with my damaged body ;-)
20:50:33 * sesivany sees several events in Sept. All set? The biggest one seems to be the one of egydev. That should be all set, too, right? You have media and stickers, too.
20:51:42 <egydev> sesivany, Yes every thing is alright , till now :)
20:52:32 <sesivany> start thinking about F18 release parties. There is still a lot of time, but it needs planning. I'd like to see release parties in as many countries as possible.
20:52:42 <egydev> I hope we bring more fedora people in that event and people who can contribute
20:52:45 <jreznik> software freedom day in brno, we decided to try to make it... so if you could arrange room, I'll do the rest
20:53:20 <sesivany> jreznik: I'll book it tomo.
20:53:30 <jreznik> sesivany: thx
20:54:09 <sesivany> when planning release parties give yourself enough time after the release. There are slips expected and it usually takes two weeks to produce media and ship it to you.
20:54:50 <sesivany> ok, anything else on events?
20:54:51 <jreznik> sesivany: this makes release parties to collide with christmas...
20:55:14 <jreznik> (partially)
20:55:31 <jreznik> hope to not slip too much for Alpha... /me is still optimist :)
20:55:46 * gnokii sees jreznik handing out DVD costumed as santa claus
20:55:49 <sesivany> btw jreznik may tell you more about expected slips. 6 weeks is just a catastrophic scenario, right? :)
20:58:09 <jreznik> gnokii: good idea!
20:58:58 <sesivany> ready to move to action items?
20:58:59 <jreznik> sesivany: hope it's worst scenario but... we still hope another week slip for alpha would be enough...
20:59:08 <jreznik> but depends on upgrade support
20:59:24 * egydev would like to see jreznik in santa style :)
21:00:01 <sesivany> jreznik: and then kparal will start digging up blocker bugs and we will need two more weeks :)
21:00:49 <sesivany> ok, let's move to the next topic.
21:00:49 <jreznik> we definitely need some nasty photos of kparal in the safe ready :)
21:01:03 <sesivany> #topic Action items from previous meetings
21:01:22 * sesivany is searching for action items from the last meeting...
21:02:09 <sesivany> only one: gnokii to add FrosCon to the calendar of Fedora events.
21:02:17 <gnokii> not done
21:02:39 <sesivany> which is not done, so I'm moving it to the next meeting after gnokii fix his damaged body :)
21:03:04 <sesivany> #action gnokii to add FrosCon to the calendar of Fedora events and add a link to the event report
21:03:26 <sesivany> that's it, moving to the open floor...
21:03:39 <sesivany> #topic openfloor
21:04:24 <sesivany> if you have anything to say speak up now... or stay silent till the end of our lives :-)
21:04:47 * gnokii brings in beer
21:05:42 <sesivany> gnokii, good for you :)
21:06:33 * sesivany will close the meeting in 3 minutes if no one speaks up.
21:10:28 <sesivany> thank you all for coming! The next meeting will be in two weeks, on Sept 12th!
21:10:31 <jreznik> tick tick
21:10:55 <sesivany> #endmeeting