01:00:12 <graphite6> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:13 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 22 01:00:12 2012 UTC. The chair is graphite6. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:13 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:18 <dramsey> .fas dramsey 01:00:18 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com> 01:00:28 <graphite6> #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:33 <dan408-> here 01:00:41 <masta> .fas parasense 01:00:41 <zodbot> masta: parasense 'Jon Disnard' <jdisnard@gmail.com> 01:00:43 <graphite6> #topic Roll Call 01:00:52 <suehle> here 01:00:55 <graphite6> .fas graphitefriction 01:00:55 <zodbot> graphite6: graphitefriction 'Sarah White' <graphitefriction@gmail.com> 01:01:00 <wrnash> here 01:01:02 <jduncan> here 01:01:07 <graphite6> all you speedy typers 01:01:37 <graphite6> #chair dramsey dan408- masta suehle 01:01:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: dan408- dramsey graphite6 masta suehle 01:01:48 * jaysonr sorta here :-) 01:01:56 <graphite6> #chair wrnash jduncan jaysonr 01:01:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: dan408- dramsey graphite6 jaysonr jduncan masta suehle wrnash 01:02:32 <graphite6> #topic Announcements 01:02:54 <graphite6> News? Excitement? Weirdness? 01:03:14 <graphite6> btw inode0 is communing with Dylan tonight so you're stuck with me and my attempts at communicating rationally with zodbot 01:03:33 <masta> otay 01:03:55 <graphite6> #info FUDCOn Venezuela is this week - retweet/G+ your support 01:04:14 <graphite6> they're using the #Fudconlatam tag 01:04:28 <graphite6> any other news? 01:04:32 <jduncan> #info small news - I added an event to the Fedora calendar - Norfolk, VA Maker Faire in October. Rallying local volunteers now. 01:04:33 <graphite6> going once 01:04:34 <masta> I'd like to announce that ROYGBIV is an easy way to remember the colors of the rainbow.... 01:04:51 <graphite6> masta: lol 01:04:53 <masta> important if you eat skittles 01:05:03 <graphite6> jduncan: sweet 01:05:26 <jduncan> should be fun 01:05:41 <graphite6> will you need support, etc (i.e. file a ticket so we can discuss at a meeting) 01:06:12 <jduncan> it's a ways off, but I will in the near future. I wouldn't mind a table kit. got great feedback from the oragnizers about it so far. 01:06:33 <graphite6> okay, tonight we're going to do tickets first b/c we've got an imminent event, then we'll do some orientation about event pages 01:07:01 <graphite6> jduncan: definitely 01:07:06 <graphite6> #topic Tickets 01:07:19 * Sonar_Gal 01:07:23 <graphite6> .famna ticket 40 01:07:45 <graphite6> hello zodbot 01:08:32 <masta> #info https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/40 01:08:55 <graphite6> .famna 40 01:09:09 <nirik> graphite6: I think it's .famnaticket 01:09:21 <graphite6> .famnaticket 40 01:09:22 <zodbot> graphite6: #40 (SFD-DFW_2012) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/40 01:09:42 <masta> So that is my first event 01:09:43 <graphite6> #info nirik is a life saver!!!! 01:09:57 <graphite6> masta: the floor is yours 01:09:59 <masta> I coudl really use some hand holding for this 01:10:22 <graphite6> okay, what would you like to at this event? 01:10:41 <masta> At this point the event is three weeks away, so I need some guidance in wrapping up my swag request. It's a smaller event so ..... 01:10:57 <gentt> Hi y'all! :-) 01:11:13 <gentt> I was just reading Of Mice and Men! :-) 01:11:14 <masta> I have some verticle banners, but I was wondering if there is an event kit available? 01:11:28 <dan408-> sorry not 100� percent here but around 01:11:38 <graphite6> so who here is a pro at swag requests? 01:11:51 <graphite6> dan408-: no worries 01:11:54 <dan408-> you 01:12:00 <dan408-> :P 01:12:33 <graphite6> dan408-: I've actually never done a swag request for an event :( 01:13:03 <dan408-> check the trac 01:13:12 <dan408-> and also last weeks meeting log 01:13:13 <masta> here is a picture of the table from last year: 01:13:19 <masta> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonmock/5006844101/ 01:13:23 <dan408-> the entire meeting was a trac lesson 01:13:31 <graphite6> dan408-: only masta can see his tickeyt 01:13:33 <masta> I want to reproduce what is on that table, minus the XO's 01:13:45 <dan408-> hmm 01:13:52 <dan408-> link please? 01:14:17 <dan408-> and what region is that? 01:14:32 <masta> cenral 01:14:33 <graphite6> masta: ahh, table cloth - you will want the event box then 01:14:35 <dan408-> oh is it ticket 40? sorry 01:14:42 <masta> dan408-: yes 01:15:13 <masta> the event box seems a bit much, the shipping is alot! 01:15:15 <dan408-> central is nb 01:15:22 <dan408-> assign the ticket to nb 01:15:29 <farmerrob> Sorry I am Late :-) 01:15:38 <masta> dan408-: yes sir 01:15:41 <dan408-> and i can see the ticket no problem 01:15:52 <graphite6> can you set up a table at this event for free 01:16:17 <dan408-> sorry whos leading this meeting btw? 01:16:17 <graphite6> dan408-: we can't see his requests though - b/c that has private info on it and requests is a different trac 01:16:19 <masta> So for this event I'm planning to demo fedora-arm on a pandaboard, and asinine is goign to bring his raspi 01:16:27 <graphite6> dan408-: I am :) 01:16:41 <dan408-> ok graphute6 we'll discuss after 01:16:47 <dan408-> lets move on please 01:16:54 <masta> I can CC who ever needs to see the trac ticket, just let me know 01:17:09 <dan408-> cc nb and inode0 01:17:10 <nb> oh i am here 01:17:22 <masta> dan408-: ok will do 01:17:26 <graphite6> ok, just a second, masta have you filed an ticket for swag? 01:17:31 <nb> what is event box needed for? 01:17:47 <masta> the swag ticket is #300 01:17:59 <dan408-> ticket 40 on famna trac nb 01:17:59 <masta> in famnarequests 01:18:21 <graphite6> dan408-: that's the event ticket, not the swag request 01:18:27 <nb> how many people are expected to be there? 01:18:54 <masta> According to the guy that hosted last year about 150 01:18:56 <dan408-> ok so create a fama request 01:19:06 <masta> but maybe 40 to 50 stay for the lectures 01:19:39 <nb> I don't know that we want to send the event box for that 01:19:47 <nb> it costs like $75 or so just to ship it one way 01:19:59 <nb> we can send you some swag, sure 01:20:02 <masta> that is what inode0 said too 01:20:10 <Sonar_Gal> probably swag and banners? 01:20:30 <masta> lets just do swag and banners. 01:20:42 <nb> plus central even box doesn't have a fancy tablecloth anyway 01:20:50 <nb> all it has is a blue sheet to use as a tablecloth 01:20:53 <masta> ok so I'll cc nb on the famnarequest trac 01:21:05 <nb> masta, it should be assigned to me 01:21:06 <nb> if you choose central 01:21:12 <masta> yes sir 01:21:24 <masta> does anybody else have any questions for me on this event? 01:21:30 <dan408-> no 01:21:32 <graphite6> masta is there anything else you need for the event? 01:21:42 <masta> no 01:21:44 <dan408-> good luck masta 01:22:01 <graphite6> sweet, next ticket coming uo 01:22:03 <graphite6> up 01:22:07 <graphite6> srsly can't spell 01:22:22 <dan408-> none of us can its ok 01:22:28 <farmerrob> what is the event ticket? 01:22:36 <dan408-> as long as you like bacon 01:22:37 <graphite6> #famnaticket 26 01:22:40 <farmerrob> ty 01:23:01 <dan408-> do you mean 36? 01:23:02 <graphite6> .famnaticket 26 01:23:04 <zodbot> graphite6: #26 (Ohio LinuxFest 2012, Sep 28-30, Columbus, OH) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/26 01:23:11 <dan408-> oh that 01:23:13 <farmerrob> cool 01:23:28 <dramsey> 8-) 01:23:33 <graphite6> so, the only news I have about this at the moment is BoFs 01:23:52 <graphite6> BoF submissions are open on first come first considered basis 01:23:53 <dan408-> �+1 dramsey 01:24:29 <graphite6> if you are attending you might want to consider submitting something Fedoraish :D 01:25:14 <graphite6> otherwise I don't have anything else to say about this ticket today so I'll move on.... 01:25:26 <graphite6> #info BoF submissions are open on first come first considered basis 01:25:43 <graphite6> .famnaticket 36 01:25:44 <zodbot> graphite6: #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 01:25:58 <graphite6> #topic Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA) 01:26:03 <dan408-> yes 01:26:09 <dan408-> so regarding this event 01:26:16 <dan408-> this might be moved to kansas 01:26:25 <dan408-> to coincide with FUDcon 01:26:38 <dan408-> will discuss with inode0 when he is here 01:26:47 <jduncan> makes sense, imho. 01:27:31 <graphite6> inode0 may be back next week (he wasn't sure) but he'll definitely be back for the first Sept meeting 01:27:55 <graphite6> any other info/news about FADNA 01:28:37 <masta> kansas sounds good 01:28:54 * masta could drive there 01:29:05 <dan408-> yeayeah it does 01:29:13 <dan408-> so who is going to fudcon? 01:29:30 * suehle raises hand 01:29:33 <graphite6> I'm probably going 01:29:37 * jduncan - as far as I can predict the future 01:30:03 <masta> is there a link to fudcon? 01:30:04 <dan408-> suehle i would like to attend fudcon and need further details. ill pm you later 01:30:12 <suehle> dan408-, ok 01:30:18 <graphite6> jduncan: :) I can't predict next week half the time 01:30:26 <graphite6> is there anyone here waiting to talk about the Canadian mailing list ticket? 01:30:39 <jduncan> graphite6 - next week i'm in training. that's easy. :) 01:30:39 <dan408-> maybe we can make fadna a one day event 01:30:51 <dan408-> instead of an entire weekend 01:30:56 <masta> when and where is fudcon? in kansas? 01:31:05 <jduncan> masta - yes, Lawrence KS 01:31:07 <dan408-> fudcon in kansas in october 01:31:16 <dan408-> ill get you a link in a minute 01:31:20 <suehle> uh, january 01:31:31 <dan408-> oh sorry 01:31:33 <suehle> Does it defeat the purpose to some extent of having multiple events to combine FADNA with FUDCon? 01:31:44 <dan408-> got it confused with paris 01:31:50 <suehle> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Lawrence_2013 01:32:10 <graphite6> #info FADNA may move to Kansas to coincide with FUDCon 01:32:31 <dan408-> well suehle budget things have chanved 01:32:35 <masta> I'll probably be at that fudcon 01:32:41 <dan408-> and if everyones going to kansas 01:32:53 <dan408-> might as well do it there at the same time 01:33:07 <dan408-> its complicated 01:33:13 <jduncan> dan408 - but at the exclusion of what? 01:33:30 <dan408-> yes wed love to have you all visit us here in lovely silicon valley 01:33:42 <dan408-> so its tbd 01:34:27 <dan408-> ill update after having a meeting with inode0 01:34:31 <dan408-> EOF 01:35:09 <masta> ok we are at the halfway mark 01:35:25 <graphite6> okay, does anyone have a desire to discuss the Canadian mailing list or fedora distro swag tickets? 01:35:39 <graphite6> if not we'll hit the orientation part of the meeting 01:35:46 <farmerrob> cool 01:35:55 <masta> +1 01:36:00 <wrnash> +1 01:36:04 <farmerrob> +1 01:36:17 <graphite6> #topic Orientation Topic: Event pages 01:36:51 <graphite6> Event pages and the joy of wiki editing 01:36:57 <graphite6> :D 01:37:43 <graphite6> Before I get into tags I'd like to give a shout out to a new member here, Welcome gentt! 01:37:51 <dramsey> +1 01:37:56 <dramsey> Welcome Gent - gentt 01:37:57 <wrnash> +1 01:38:00 <farmerrob> +1 01:38:11 <farmerrob> welcome 01:38:15 <masta> welcome gentt! 01:38:20 <masta> :) 01:38:27 <jduncan> +1 01:38:50 <graphite6> also, is stephen steward here? if so, Welcome! 01:39:07 <graphite6> or maybe I've scared them all away :D 01:39:36 <dan408-> so 01:39:37 <dan408-> on wikis 01:39:42 <dan408-> if you don't know how to edit them 01:39:48 <dan408-> a good way to learn is to edit existing wikis 01:39:56 <dan408-> make your changes and click show preview 01:40:07 <graphite6> Event pages: you should make one when you are going to an event, going to represent Fedora in some way, and think it will be interesting to the fedora community 01:40:08 <dan408-> to create a wiki page just go to the URL where it would exist and create it. 01:40:37 <farmerrob> So if I do an installfest with my local lug? 01:40:50 <graphite6> farmerrob: yes 01:40:58 <masta> #info http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting 01:41:31 <masta> ^^ that will be useful ^^ 01:41:33 <graphite6> regarding URL names, check out: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_structure 01:41:45 <graphite6> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_structure 01:41:57 <dramsey> +1 01:42:06 <graphite6> I tend to like to put the year in the URL since so many of these events repeat 01:42:20 <graphite6> ex: Ohio_LinuxFest_2012 01:42:31 <graphite6> don't blend the words together, use underscores 01:42:46 <graphite6> next up: the template 01:43:43 <graphite6> As dan408- said, once you've created the url, click edit and then paste this template into the text box 01:43:45 <graphite6> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Template 01:44:10 <graphite6> the template will give you all the preformatted headings 01:44:18 <masta> +2 01:44:21 <graphite6> however, feel free to rearrange the heading order 01:44:32 <graphite6> delete headings that don't apply to your event, etc 01:44:59 <graphite6> then, you just fill in the info about your event under the headings 01:45:41 <graphite6> for additional syntax and tags check out: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting 01:45:47 <graphite6> #link http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting 01:46:02 <graphite6> thanks for the link masta :D 01:46:30 <masta> sure 01:47:03 <graphite6> when you're done setting up the page make sure to add a link to it on the main events page 01:47:41 <graphite6> announce the event page on the ambassadors list 01:48:01 <graphite6> set up a trac ticket for it if you want to have the event discussed in this meeting 01:48:43 <graphite6> So does anyone have any questions about wiki page set up, the template, specific info in an event page? 01:49:36 * graphite6 thinks she's killed them all with wiki stuff :D 01:49:42 <farmerrob> So even for small event we should do ? 01:50:22 <graphite6> I think so, most jug/lug/jbug meetups I go to rarely have more than 15-25 people 01:50:28 <suehle> if small equals your roommates in your kitchen on friday night, no, but for lugs, definitely 01:50:37 <farmerrob> cool 01:50:51 <suehle> unless you have a loooooot of roommates :D 01:51:09 <graphite6> the event page gives you a place to coordinate with others in you're area, drum up interest, and link to your event reports 01:51:18 <farmerrob> I am working on an install fest I will do a ticket :-) 01:51:32 <graphite6> and you know inode0 loves event reports 01:51:38 <graphite6> :) 01:52:07 <graphite6> any other event page curiosity? 01:52:11 <graphite6> confusion? 01:52:54 <graphite6> btw the fast a dirty way I do an event page is just copy someone elses (who's already done all the table syntax work) :D 01:53:12 <graphite6> okay time for open floor 01:53:12 <farmerrob> hmmm good idea 01:53:15 <dramsey> +1 01:53:20 <dramsey> good idea 01:53:26 <graphite6> #topic Open Floor 01:53:39 * masta copied OLF page 01:53:39 <suehle> let's talk brochures! 01:53:50 <graphite6> go for it suehle 01:53:56 <jduncan> i'm pro-brochure 01:53:59 <suehle> hey suehle, have your links ready when you want to talk about something 01:54:11 <masta> suehle: what do you have in mind? 01:54:44 <masta> are there any previous brochures we can look at? 01:54:48 <suehle> We were discussing in the newly restarted marketing meetings this week (yay!) having a brochure that's more... basic entry friendly? Not sure the best way to describe. So... 01:55:26 <suehle> Spot and I are going to Maker Faire NY with a raspi running Fedora. I've done one Mini MF before, and people need Little Words. Throwing around "this is open source linux fedora yaaaaay" means nothing. 01:55:30 <suehle> So that's the context. 01:55:41 <suehle> here's some copy I've been working on http://rsuehle.fedorapeople.org/fedorabrochure.txt 01:56:00 <graphite6> #info Fedora marketing meetings have reignited #fedora-meeting Thursdays @3pm Eastern 01:56:11 <suehle> which I think would neatly tie with the insides of this one http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/brochure/Fedora-Brochure.pdf 01:56:56 <jduncan> pretty 01:57:09 <graphite6> #link http://rsuehle.fedorapeople.org/fedorabrochure.txt 01:57:17 <masta> suehle: got inkscape? 01:57:20 <suehle> masta yes 01:57:25 <graphite6> #link http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/brochure/Fedora-Brochure.pdf 01:58:23 <masta> right on 01:58:29 <dramsey> +1 01:59:12 <masta> so the new brochure is trifold, there are plenty of inscape templates 01:59:47 <masta> suehle: the text youhave looks to be a great start, look forward to see how it evolves 02:01:31 <masta> hey I was wondering if there are any fedora playing cards.... a deck of cards with the fedora logo on the reverse? 02:01:44 <suehle> masta: There are about 150 decks leftover from OSCON 02:01:55 <suehle> I believe the plan was to take most of them to FUDCon Paris, but I'm not sure. 02:01:57 <farmerrob> cool 02:02:05 <suehle> rbergeron may also have taken some to Venezuela 02:02:20 * dan408- has a deck 02:02:23 <dan408-> unopened 02:02:28 <dan408-> but it's mine ;) 02:02:42 <farmerrob> were can you get some? 02:02:48 <dan408-> i dont know. 02:03:02 <dan408-> MarkDude gave me one for speaking at SVLUG 02:03:02 <masta> ok so what about Fedora temporary tattoos? At Red Hat summit we got some of those at the RCP meetup.... neat swag idea I thought 02:03:51 <masta> aka shadow-man temp tattoo's 02:03:51 <dan408-> the neatest swag ideas IMHO are: tshirts, stickers, dvds, liveusbs, and yeah tshirts 02:04:23 <dan408-> tshirts are walking billoards 02:04:23 <graphite6> I'll end this meeting in about 2 minutes, then we can take any cont. discussions to the ambassador channel 02:04:29 <dan408-> thats why im such a fan of them 02:04:46 <farmerrob> Thay are cool 02:05:01 * graphite6 <3 T-shirts and stickers 02:05:10 <dan408-> yee 02:05:44 <graphite6> 5 02:05:47 <graphite6> 4 02:05:53 <graphite6> 3 02:05:59 <graphite6> 2 02:06:02 <graphite6> 1 02:06:05 <dramsey> graphite6, thnak you for chairing. 02:06:05 <dan408-> +1 02:06:08 <dramsey> +1 02:06:13 <dramsey> s/na/an 02:06:15 <graphite6> thanks for coming out tonight everyone! 02:06:17 <jduncan> graphite - thanks 02:06:19 <dan408-> thank you graphite6 02:06:22 <wrnash> thanks 02:06:23 <farmerrob> Ty 02:06:26 <dramsey> :D 02:06:33 <graphite6> make sure to ask inode about what he did with Dylan tonight :D 02:06:42 <dramsey> +1 02:06:44 <dan408-> oh boy 02:06:46 <graphite6> lol 02:06:51 <graphite6> #endmeeting