19:00:37 <suehle> #startmeeting Marketing Team Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings
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19:00:52 <suehle> #meetingname Fedora Marketing
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19:01:05 <suehle> #topic roll call
19:01:16 * jnalley is here
19:01:28 * graphite6 is here
19:01:30 * jbrooks is here
19:01:49 * rbergeron is here!
19:01:50 <suehle> lh said she'd be late, and rbergeron is wrapping up in the FUDCon meeting
19:01:54 <suehle> or right there :)
19:02:15 * graphite6 physically pokes mojavelinux
19:02:25 <AnnaE> Anna UCBO is here!
19:02:53 <suehle> welcome!
19:02:55 <graphite6> AnnaE: Hello!
19:02:59 <suehle> who else wants chair?
19:03:20 * lh waves
19:03:59 <suehle> #topic Wiki cleanup
19:04:23 <suehle> So... any suggestions about the best way to tackle this? I've hit a page here and a page there, but some of it is ridonkulously behind.
19:05:13 <jbrooks> suehle, we can mark the outdated ones w/ a category
19:05:14 <graphite6> do we have any big features/departments we want to focus on/ make polishing a priority?
19:05:22 <lh> suehle, maybe if we create a list of pages that need clean up, people can volunteer to work on that this week and then we regroup next week
19:05:25 <lh> suehle, what jbrooks said
19:05:30 <suehle> graphite6: I mean the marketing pages right now.
19:05:38 <graphite6> suehle: gotcha
19:05:53 <suehle> jbrooks: good plan... although I think the category is called "Marketing" :)
19:06:02 <suehle> we can also as we go start creating placeholders for the F18 pages
19:06:10 <suehle> who has time in the next week to help out with that?
19:06:24 * rbergeron comes back to the page
19:06:37 <rbergeron> err, this window
19:07:04 <graphite6> suehle: unsure what my schedule looks like at moment, would have to see scope of work
19:07:35 <rbergeron> graphite6: maybe it's a "make a wiki page of cleanup / todo / don't know what this is" type stuff?
19:07:45 <rbergeron> and have people throw things in there over the next week.
19:08:09 <rbergeron> clean up is good, there's also things like "f18 alpha announcement" and etc. that are looming very soon as well.
19:08:30 <suehle> It also would help... well, I don't know what would help. But I'm thinking of situations like yesterday where I mentioned something to rbergeron on a page, and she said, "We don't even do that anymore," but I didn't konw that.
19:08:38 <suehle> not sure of the best way to make sure those all get caught
19:08:45 <graphite6> rbergeron: hmm, that sounds good
19:09:24 <mojavelinux> +1 to a task list page, that helps the task not look so overwhelming, imo
19:09:48 <suehle> #action suehle to make a list of pages that need cleanup love
19:10:07 <suehle> I'll then send an email to the mktg list with that page, and people can do cleanup and add to the list. Sound good?
19:10:15 <graphite6> +1
19:10:47 <jnalley> +1
19:11:29 <rbergeron> yesplz :)
19:11:36 <suehle> ok then!
19:11:41 <rbergeron> and clarification if anyone's confused - that works too
19:11:51 <suehle> next up then...
19:11:52 <suehle> #topic Collateral
19:12:07 <suehle> 1) We need new stuff in general and 2) We need new stuff in specific
19:12:35 <jbrooks> Is th
19:12:49 <suehle> There are two brochures that I think are important to get done soon. One is something that explains Fedora and open source to somebody who hasn't got a clue. I'm thinking about this with an eye on Maker Faire, which spot and I intend to attend.
19:12:58 <suehle> Second is release-specific, which we haven't done in a while.
19:13:06 <suehle> jbrooks?
19:13:25 <jbrooks> suehle, sorry, computer issues
19:14:31 <rbergeron> suehle: we might ask ambassadors how they feel about release-specific stuff. it might be useful for people who are doing really small events (talking at a university) but I do wonder about things like - printing out lots of pamphlets and then them sitting in event boxes forever.
19:14:52 <suehle> rbergeron: Fair. Maybe postcard-sized? Or event-dependent?
19:14:54 * rbergeron has always thought it would be cool to have a fold-out version of the cd case instead of the little holder, so we could have room to talk about some features in there
19:15:13 <suehle> also a good plan, then not wasting any leftovers that weren't already wasted
19:15:22 <inode0> a tri-fold highlighting features and other stuff by release would be good I think
19:15:27 <rbergeron> suehle: well, there is the idea of doing more of the targeted "what's in fedora for me, i'm a _______ (designer, perl programmer, cloud person, jack of all trades, etc)
19:15:56 <suehle> rbergeron: Yes x3 on that as well. Those are my favorites.
19:16:05 <suehle> And the ones we have have gotten a little stale and inaccurate in spots.
19:16:14 <suehle> That's what happens after a couple of years. :)
19:16:30 <graphite6> agree with rbergeron about release specific stuff - should be targeted at applicable events and printing kept to a minimum and not have the main supply with the event box but with people at those events
19:16:30 <rbergeron> we used to cover some of this in "one page release notes" - which was sort of a glossy thing covering reader-friendly release notes, combined with features that sound awesome"
19:16:39 <rbergeron> but it was more of a 1-page handout, not a tri-fold thing.
19:16:59 <jbrooks> rbergeron, that's the page that came w/ the usb keys?
19:17:10 <graphite6> +1 for the targeted "what's in fedora for me"
19:17:25 <rbergeron> maybe there's a way to have some sort of request form where we could have kinko's or staples send people stuff for an expected crowd... i dunno.
19:17:34 <rbergeron> jbrooks: maybe a looooong time ago
19:17:48 <rbergeron> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_one_page_release_notes
19:18:03 <suehle> rbergeron: I don't think they have a request form like that, but we could do it through us so that then quantity and payment is somewhat controlled as well
19:18:15 <rbergeron> one of the other things to think about too is making things easily translatable for folks in other regions
19:18:33 <suehle> In what sense? Quantity of text or...
19:18:45 <rbergeron> suehle: yeah, i hate making "us" the gatekeepers 0 if it was someone billing us directly, that's fine, but i'd rather not make it a "have to wait" thing
19:18:49 <suehle> (I mean, ideally you always keep that in mind when writing copy)
19:19:45 <rbergeron> suehle: in the sense of - sometimes we create collateral on the wiki, or in a file that can be updated, but we don't always communicate when the english version has updated ,and then someone in another region might have a dated translation, etc....
19:19:46 <suehle> rbergeron: I don't want to be a holdup, but anyone being able to freely order a gazilliion brochures doesn't sound good either. Could we do it similarly to ambassadors ordering buttons and pens?
19:20:02 <suehle> rbergeron: ooooh... so what we really need is better version control
19:20:26 <graphite6> +100 for version control
19:20:43 <suehle> any suggestions for methods (preferably that don't start with g and end it?)
19:20:46 <rbergeron> suehle: maybe, lol. or maybe a week or two each cycle where we say, collateral is frozen for translation, etc.
19:20:56 <graphite6> right now I look at the history of a wikipage to see if it is relevant time-wise
19:20:58 <rbergeron> and then print final versions (to .pdf or whatever)
19:21:35 <graphite6> like the documentation beats?
19:21:36 * lh gets caught up on scroll back
19:21:37 <suehle> We could also just add a column to the table of collateral for "last updated" since it could be different for some pieces
19:21:45 * rbergeron nods
19:21:53 <lh> re: specific release docs - could we do fedora stationery and then print on it for each release?
19:21:59 <suehle> although a more centralized content repository would be useful as well... the brochures are over here and posters over there and release collateral over here...
19:22:23 <rbergeron> lh: I think we likely change it too much
19:22:26 <rbergeron> suehle: +48
19:22:36 <lh> rbergeron, fair enough, makes sense
19:22:54 * nirik notes http://fedorapeople.org/groups/marketing/ could be used?
19:23:04 <rbergeron> lh: photos, banners, etc.  - ust not sure what is repeatable there
19:23:31 <rbergeron> (though i'll personally add that literal stationery - fedora branded thank-you cards to send notes of thanks to supporters, people who lent facilities, etc. would be a really awesome thing to have.)
19:23:39 <suehle> I like nirik's suggestion, if we use it along with a very good file naming scheme
19:23:43 <rbergeron> (</girl>)
19:23:44 <lh> rbergeron, oh, i should have been more clear. we do not want to waste resources on too much per release collateral. what about doing stationery/template that anyone can grab and add release info to for small print runs.
19:24:00 <lh> rbergeron, +1000 on the stationery thank you cards too
19:24:20 <suehle> graphite6, can I give you an action of designing some nice card-like stationery?
19:24:31 <graphite6> sure
19:24:43 <suehle> #action graphite6 Create some thank-you-card-style stationery
19:25:17 <suehle> #idea  nirik notes http://fedorapeople.org/groups/marketing/ could be used for content repository along with common naming scheme
19:25:35 <rbergeron> lh: let's think about it - I can see how havinto only print in black text is better and more consistent, but ... not sure. /me shrugs
19:25:47 <rbergeron> might be good to ask ambassadors what would be easy for them or what works for them :)
19:25:54 <lh> rbergeron, +1
19:26:13 <suehle> #action rbergeron Ask ambassadors in next ambassador meeting what would be most useful for release collateral
19:26:25 <rbergeron> hey! i miss throwing myself nder the bus like that :)
19:26:29 * suehle throws action tags all over the place!
19:26:42 <suehle> any other thoughts on collateral?
19:26:45 <rbergeron> i needed to get some action
19:26:49 <rbergeron> err
19:26:52 <graphite6> lol
19:26:53 <AnnaE> I have a question @ collateral
19:27:10 <lh> +1 to earlier suggestion of use case specific collateral, e.g. I am designer/programmer/etc.
19:27:16 <AnnaE> This one page document is the thing that someone receives when they get the usb, right?
19:27:17 * nirik has an idea/suggestion for open floor whenever that hits.
19:27:24 <suehle> AnnaE, that could be one piece of it
19:27:38 <suehle> nirik, if it's relevant to collateral, go ahead now
19:27:40 <rbergeron> annae: what suehle said, plus there is another piece:
19:28:12 <rbergeron> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material#LiveUSB_Review_Sheets
19:28:22 <rbergeron> hrm, i should upload the F17 press kit sheet
19:28:38 <suehle> 16 isn't there either if there was one
19:28:46 <jbrooks> rbergeron, that's the one I was thinking of
19:28:46 <nirik> suehle: it's not.
19:29:19 * rbergeron wondres if now is an appropriate time to talk about making a list of press people or pubs (or relooking at who we crrently contact, who has been writing abot us)
19:29:23 * rbergeron slaps her keyboard
19:29:32 <rbergeron> suehle: i didin't do F16
19:29:36 * suehle repeats for AnnaE, not sure when you dropped:
19:29:37 <suehle> <rbergeron> annae: what suehle said, plus there is another piece:
19:29:37 <suehle> <rbergeron> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material#LiveUSB_Review_Sheets
19:29:56 <suehle> #topic Media kits and press
19:29:59 <AnnaE_> Thanks! not sure when I dropped I think this room hates me
19:30:02 <suehle> Look, I made it time to talk about that! :)
19:30:19 <AnnaE_> yes this is where I had an idea, although I"m not sure if it would be too expensive
19:31:49 <suehle> Well, that was a conversation killer.
19:32:07 * rbergeron grins
19:32:09 <suehle> rbergeron: Are you talking about updating an existing list or trying to make a list of mentions? or both
19:32:33 <suehle> AnnaE: Do you know if you guys subscribe to a clip service for Fedora, or just Red Hat stuff?
19:32:35 * lh thinks we could do some cool automagic business for mentions using google alerts
19:32:37 <rbergeron> suehle: well, list of mentions is nice (but takes a LOT of work to upkeep, esp. in wiki format as we have done in the past)
19:32:59 <suehle> I keep dreaming that somebody will write a script that dumps a Google Alert for "Fedora Project" onto a wiki page
19:33:07 <rbergeron> but more "looking at poeple who have reported on us recently and making sure that they are on the red hat PR list for press releases" and etc.
19:33:08 <lh> suehle, ^^ yes, that!
19:33:11 <jbrooks> suehle, that's doable
19:33:19 <suehle> jbrooks: like by you?
19:33:39 <graphite6> she's gonna action you :)
19:33:47 <jbrooks> suehle, sure -- I do follow a goog alert -- I'd been doing the In the News beat
19:33:48 * suehle holds her finger on the # key
19:33:50 <jbrooks> for fwm
19:33:54 <suehle> #action jbrooks  write a script that dumps a Google Alert for "Fedora Project" onto a wiki page
19:33:56 <suehle> woot!
19:34:15 * graphite6 throws confetti
19:34:20 <jbrooks> :)
19:34:21 * lh ^5s jbrooks
19:34:22 <suehle> and from there we can do part 2 of making sure those people are on our press list
19:35:01 <suehle> ...which I'll work with the bouncy AnnaE on
19:35:12 <suehle> anything else on that?
19:35:44 <suehle> in that case...
19:35:45 <suehle> #topic Happy birthday to Fedora o/~ (?)
19:36:00 <suehle> inode0 sent a mail to the list about December being our 10th birthday, which is what Wikipedia says. But..
19:36:32 <suehle> I'd always thought of Fedora's birthday not being until almost a year later because of this email: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2003-September/044792.html
19:36:40 <suehle> (I easily remember it because it happens to be my birthday)
19:36:51 <suehle> And FC1 didn't actually release until November 2003: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2003-November/msg00000.html
19:37:22 <suehle> Thoughts on dates here? (FWIW, we had the worse problems trying to track down RHEL's 10th anniversary!)
19:37:57 <graphite6> Does this mean no cake? <sob>
19:38:12 <Southern_Gentlem> suehle,  that was the start of the fedora Project
19:38:18 <suehle> graphite6: At worst it means I have another year to perfect making a Fedora cake :)
19:38:39 <Southern_Gentlem> suehle,  wait a year
19:38:59 <graphite6> suehle: ohhhhhhh, yummy!!!
19:39:00 <Southern_Gentlem> i had calculated it as 9 years earlier today
19:39:02 <suehle> Southern_Gentlem, I assume that stuff started earlier and that's what the December is really about? But then the for reals wasn't until 2003?
19:39:15 * suehle briefly got all excited about birthdaying :)
19:39:37 <suehle> ok, celebrations tabled.
19:39:44 <suehle> #topic New ideas and open floor
19:39:47 <suehle> Go nirik!
19:39:49 <Southern_Gentlem> suehle,  talk to Warren but thats what i think happened
19:39:59 <suehle> Southern_Gentlem, will do
19:40:00 <EvilBob> Before November 2003 it was not "community" it was Red Hat internal really
19:40:03 <nirik> oh yeah... so an idea, which I could possibly help some with, but can't run:
19:40:36 <nirik> there's been a recent thing: 30 days of kernel developers... where they ask 30 kernel folks questions and post the interviews. Could we do something like this with Fedora Contributors?
19:40:56 <mojavelinux> nirik: I really like the series, btw
19:41:24 <nirik> me too. it puts a human face on kernel developers.
19:41:33 * graphite6 needs to go check this series out, sounds very cool
19:41:33 <mojavelinux> exactly
19:41:36 <lh> nirik, +1, awesome idea
19:41:37 <suehle> I like it. And I feel like it's happened before.
19:41:37 <nirik> http://www.linux.com/news/special-feature/linux-developers
19:41:39 <mojavelinux> and reminds you that they are there
19:41:56 <graphite6> I love the idea of 'getting to know the contributors/community members'
19:41:56 <suehle> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews
19:42:01 <suehle> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews
19:42:19 * nirik doesn't even remember those, cool.
19:42:55 <rbergeron> it's also good content that can get converted into rotation on www.fp.o as well
19:43:02 <suehle> Does anybody want to take that on as a project?
19:43:10 <nirik> sure, and sent to various news outlets, etc.
19:43:11 <rbergeron> Your life on Fedora project :)
19:43:36 <lh> suehle, yes, i would like to volunteer but cannot work on that for at least 2-3 weeks. if other people have bandwidth sooner .....
19:43:39 <rbergeron> err, not project, but ... in that box on www
19:43:52 <EvilBob> I don't like the "30 days" part of it
19:44:11 <nirik> yeah, that makes it somewhat limiting... it could be open ended... one per week or something
19:44:24 <suehle> (an aside... next year will be Debian's 20th birthday as well. We shall party better.)
19:44:25 <graphite6> I'd be interested in this too, but also would have to wait 3-4 weeks before I could really get involved
19:44:31 <EvilBob> That is a huge demand on someone for a compact period of time
19:44:43 <nirik> EvilBob: agreed.
19:44:46 <graphite6> EvilBob: I agree
19:44:49 <mojavelinux> suehle: one task I have assigned myself is to get you a write-up on how the java packaging effort can impact fedora adoption, mostly so that you are armed with the relevant points as to why this is significant and how that information can be leveraged
19:44:57 <rbergeron> well, it sets up for ... fail, to some degree
19:44:57 <EvilBob> I would lead it if we did 50 in 50 weeks
19:45:01 <jbrooks> You could prep them over some weeks, then release in a shorter period of time
19:45:03 <suehle> #action lh graphite6 suehle nirik work on restarting Fedora Interviews
19:45:08 <rbergeron> a year of Fedora :)
19:45:11 <lh> rbergeron, ++
19:45:14 <lh> oooo...!!!
19:45:14 <EvilBob> rbergeron: Yup
19:45:21 <mojavelinux> isn't it 52 weeks?
19:45:21 <suehle> mojavelinux: I look forwarrrrrd to that
19:45:23 <EvilBob> rbergeron: skipping release week
19:45:28 <lh> a year of interviews leading up to 10th fedora bday!
19:45:32 <suehle> I have no idea why a pirate just hijacked my keyboard
19:45:34 <lh> that would be awesome.
19:45:34 * nirik doesn't have much time to devote to this, but could help out a small amount / suggest questions, etc
19:45:36 <suehle> THAT IS GENIUS
19:45:44 * rbergeron notes she has uploaded the source and .pdf for F17 live usb review sheets
19:45:47 <suehle> So if we call November's release the anniversary, they'd start in November
19:45:54 <lh> suehle, ++++
19:45:57 <jbrooks> It would be good to mix in user stories, as well
19:45:59 <mojavelinux> +1
19:46:01 <graphite6> lh: +!
19:46:03 <lh> jbrooks, agreed +1
19:46:06 <rbergeron> is the anniversary the start or the anniversary of the first release?
19:46:06 <suehle> and maybe counting down to Warren and other old timers towards the end
19:46:20 <lh> suehle, that is solid gold ^^
19:46:24 <rbergeron> or "fixing htat grey area by celebrating the whole damn year"
19:46:33 <suehle> rbergeron: I think release since "start of project" is a fuzzier question, even if I do want to share my birthday with Fedora
19:46:38 <graphite6> rbergeron: perfect
19:46:39 <mojavelinux> jbrooks: it could be 50 (or 52) contributors or users (a mix)
19:46:48 <EvilBob> rbergeron: we can gather questions now, get the first month's worth of people working on them and start publishing in Nov
19:47:03 <jbrooks> yes, and then this could feed the "I'm an X, what's in Fedora for me?"
19:47:03 <mojavelinux> because users have stories as well as to why fedora is significant to them, and those appeal to the audience for different reasons
19:47:13 <suehle> #action add EvilBob to that list of Interviews people
19:47:16 <jwb> you might want to target more than just 52 people
19:47:20 <rbergeron> maybe we could just get as many as possible by ... sending participants a 10-years-of-fedora-shirt?
19:47:23 <rbergeron> jwb: yeah.
19:47:32 <EvilBob> jbrooks: I suggested 50 so we would not have one the week of the Fxx releases
19:47:47 <graphite6> tell us your fedora story and get the T-shirt
19:47:52 <mojavelinux> jwb: perhaps it's once a week 1 - n interviews will be pushed out (at least one per week, but not limited to 1)
19:48:04 <suehle> we'll want to both take volunteers and have a list of people we really, really need to do
19:48:14 <lh> rbergeron, yes, good idea.
19:48:17 * rbergeron thinks we have way more than 50 or 52 and doesn't want to make people feel like they didn't make the cut, or something.
19:48:18 <mojavelinux> it would be cool if the t-shirt said "I have a story to tell about Fedora" :)
19:48:25 <nirik> perhaps those 2 weeks could be a fictional interview with the new or old fedora release... but that might be anthropomorphizing too much.
19:48:30 <jwb> i like this idea, but i'd take a lesson from the LF interviews
19:48:37 <jwb> they're all boring as hell.  everyone says the same thing
19:48:46 <jwb> "i run git and a terminal"
19:48:54 <suehle> #idea  "I have a story to tell about Fedora" t-shirt for interviewees
19:48:57 <rbergeron> "what pisses you off most about fedora?" :)
19:49:03 <jbrooks> :)
19:49:07 <jbrooks> with links to the bugs
19:49:09 <rbergeron> "tell us your favorite person to troll!"
19:49:14 <suehle> "What's your favorite cow shape?"
19:49:15 <EvilBob> rbergeron: s/what/who
19:49:24 <mojavelinux> hahaha
19:49:28 * lh thinks we keep it from being boring by having fun interview questions
19:49:33 <rbergeron> jwb: yeah, i agree though
19:49:43 * lh wonders if we should do interviews via podcast and provide transcripts
19:49:49 <rbergeron> I think one tihng to keep in mind is that it might be usefl to ... not ask the same shit over and over again
19:49:51 <nirik> "How many devices are in your house running fedora right now" lots of possible questions.
19:49:52 <lh> er publish via podcast
19:50:01 <suehle> yeah, it can change depending on the person
19:50:03 <lh> rbergeron, +1
19:50:07 <lh> suehle, +1
19:50:12 <nirik> "what is your favorite cheese?"
19:50:14 <suehle> I think we could do some video, some audio, some text, depending on time and the preferences of the interviewee
19:50:17 <mojavelinux> I think as long as the questions don't "lead the witness" towards a common response, they won't all be the same...in other words, the question is important
19:50:27 <EvilBob> suehle: OK then I'm out
19:50:29 <rbergeron> lh: i always like to promise low and if we can deliver better, then hooray - but podcasts also can make things less translatable, etc. - bt helps definitely to mix things up.
19:50:54 <EvilBob> EMail interviews converted to web format is so much easier
19:50:57 * nirik would very much prefer text, but if folks want to do video/audio, go ahead
19:50:59 <lh> rbergeron, ah, great point. understood. posting interviews is great and maybe we can work up to more later
19:51:06 <suehle> EvilBob: you can still play on text ones, yeah?
19:51:09 <graphite6> We could use some fun questions off this list I put together: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meet_the_fedora_community_interview_questions
19:51:11 <rbergeron> EvilBob: I think not "for each person" but ... that there could be multiple ways to interview.
19:51:30 <suehle> I'm a text-preferrer too, but if lh is motivated to be a podcaster, I wouldn't stand in her way :)
19:51:33 <lh> like perhaps we could do audio interviews at FUDCons and mix it up
19:51:42 <lh> suehle, i am motivated but lack production skills.
19:51:43 <suehle> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meet_the_fedora_community_interview_questions
19:51:44 <EvilBob> I was looking for something simple to do, low pain threshold
19:51:59 * lh thinks of who she can dig up locally who might be willing to help if and when we wish to go down this route in the future
19:52:17 <rbergeron> EvilBob: SO maybe we do this as "text only" but ... still think aobut other content as wlel, but just not under the same category/label/whatever.
19:52:24 <inode0> !
19:52:32 <graphite6> lh: I've got the video and sound equipement, I'm just waaaaaayyyyy backed up on post-processing right now (I've got stuff from Summit and JAX sitting on harddrive still)
19:52:32 <suehle> and an audio interview can always be transcribed
19:52:35 <lh> graphite6, excellent questions
19:52:38 <suehle> inode0, jump in!
19:52:46 <lh> graphite6, neat! let's talk more about this. :)
19:53:05 <inode0> Sorry to back up but if it didn't get figured out 2003 was when Red Hat Linux merged with the Fedora Project
19:53:07 <graphite6> lh: definitely :)
19:53:15 <inode0> but the Fedora Project was born in 2002
19:53:18 * rbergeron notes we're heading towards the hour mark
19:53:28 <suehle> inode0, it did, but that's how we ended up at this discussion, so it worked out :)
19:53:30 <rbergeron> inode0: yeah, so there was a "do we celebrate the birth, or the first release"
19:53:38 <suehle> anybody got anything else for this week?
19:53:38 <rbergeron> I guess it's the marriage vs. popping out the first kid, for those who do it that way
19:53:44 <inode0> both of course
19:53:50 <rbergeron> :)
19:53:52 * lh says why celebrate one when you can celebrate both
19:53:55 <EvilBob> Lets make sure of something AUDIO/Video is done it is done using software in Fedora and not closed source bits like Red Hat has been known to do in the past.
19:53:56 <rbergeron> so celebrating all year might be cool.
19:53:58 <lh> yes, what inode0 said
19:54:17 <mojavelinux> EvilBob: this is actually something that has been trying to take shape in the community over the last 6 months
19:54:22 <graphite6> EvilBob: agreed, I only use open source apps
19:54:29 * lh ^5s graphite6
19:54:54 <mojavelinux> a step-by-step page on building out audio/video using all free software
19:54:57 <Southern_Gentlem> ? What happened to all those "I am Fedora" Videos
19:55:16 <suehle> there's a pretty good series about kdenlive from klaatu on opensource.com
19:55:53 <mojavelinux> i think it's just a matter of polishing that information so it's fool proof. that's been the missing bit in my mind for a/v on linux is just a fail proof how-to guide
19:55:54 <rbergeron> Southern_Gentlem: videos or photos?
19:56:04 <Southern_Gentlem> videos
19:56:17 <mojavelinux> anyway, that's just a side note
19:56:18 <graphite6> suehle: yes, and I took his workshop at FUDCon
19:56:19 <suehle> I see a handful of things on youtube called "I am Fedora"
19:56:27 * rbergeron is not having any bell-riging going on in her head, any context?
19:56:30 <rbergeron> or when was this?
19:56:38 <suehle> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wgNd4JIXoA
19:56:47 <Southern_Gentlem> rbergeron,  i know i did one at the Marketing FAD
19:57:00 <EvilBob> Again, if we are going to do text/web interview a week at least one a week, I am willing to lead it and do most of the heavy lifting.
19:57:02 <suehle> I'm going to guess filmed in the hallway at FUDCon Boston
19:57:08 <Southern_Gentlem> I am Ben Williams and I AM FEDORA
19:57:44 <suehle> yeah, those last seconds definitely look like the Hynes
19:58:00 <EvilBob> I can't commit to anything A/V
19:58:18 <lh> EvilBob, agreed we should go for text first and then if we can do other types of work - audio, video, etc. - then that would be a very nice to have
19:58:33 <mojavelinux> +1
19:58:36 <rbergeron> evilbob: then maybe we should commit to that as the minimum, and over and above is gravy?
19:58:41 <graphite6> lh: +1
19:59:18 <rbergeron> (though i tihnk having the contribtor give a self-photo would be nice)
19:59:28 <rbergeron> (also, getting my U key fixed)
19:59:35 <EvilBob> rbergeron: I honestly think we might have trouble getting these all on time so people here will have to be willing to be a fill-in at some point
19:59:36 * lh just got her ambassadors kit delivered by UPS
19:59:37 <EvilBob> ;)
19:59:37 <lh> :)
19:59:56 <graphite6> lh: w00t!
19:59:59 <suehle> Southern_Gentlem, do you have a suggestion/question beyond "what happened to them"?
20:00:01 <suehle> hour up, ending meeting if no more words...
20:00:02 <suehle> (also, rock on for showing up and restarting meeting--high fives all around!)
20:00:02 <lh> graphite6, i know. excited!
20:00:04 <EvilBob> rbergeron: Yeah an actual picture to go with the interview would be perfect
20:00:11 <suehle> great gravy my IRC must have hung and just spewed
20:00:17 <lh> suehle, ^5 back atcha  - thank you for getting us all together
20:00:31 <Southern_Gentlem> suehle,  other than that nope
20:00:32 <rbergeron> Evilbob: another thing is that we could do things like have mini-hackfests on them at fdcons and get a bunch queued up for weeks when we might not have something
20:00:34 <jnalley> agreed, thanks suehle
20:00:37 <graphite6> suehle: this rocked
20:00:38 <mojavelinux> double high five
20:00:49 <EvilBob> rbergeron: Right
20:01:03 * rbergeron saltes suehle and hands over the tiara
20:01:17 <rbergeron> salutes, to be clear; i am not salting ruth.
20:01:22 <graphite6> lol
20:01:25 * lh thinks if we're planning to eat Ruth we should watch our salt intake
20:01:26 <EvilBob> sautes?
20:01:28 <EvilBob> ;)
20:01:29 <jnalley> lol
20:01:42 <rbergeron> stew de suehle
20:02:05 <rbergeron> okay,k i have to bail to go prep for meeting with the bossman
20:02:46 <niteshnarayanlal> hi all , sorry I am late :)
20:02:56 * lh waves to niteshnarayanlal
20:03:04 <lh> Thanks everyone, great meeting.
20:03:04 <EvilBob> Bye all
20:03:14 <niteshnarayanlal> Byye :)
20:05:11 <EvilBob> Someone should #endmeeting
20:05:17 <EvilBob> rbergeron: ^^
20:06:10 <EvilBob> suehle: WB
20:06:57 <EvilBob> suehle: the meeting did not get closed
20:06:59 <jnalley> suehle: so is the meeting over? while you were out EvilBob suggested we should #endmeeting if so
20:07:53 <suehle> Sorry, my wifi dropped at an inopportune moment
20:07:56 <suehle> #endmeeting