01:00:20 <inode0> #startmeeting FAmNA
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01:00:42 <inode0> #chair rbergeron kk4ewt Sonar_Gal graphite6
01:00:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: Sonar_Gal graphite6 inode0 kk4ewt rbergeron
01:00:52 <inode0> #topic Roll Call
01:00:54 <dan408> here
01:00:58 <lcameron> present
01:01:03 <graphite6> here
01:01:12 <award3535> present
01:01:17 <jaysonr> present
01:01:25 <PatStein> Present
01:01:30 * jaysonr assumes i'm supposed to be here :-)
01:01:39 * kk4ewt 
01:02:15 <inode0> #chair dan408 lcameron award3535 jaysonr PatStein
01:02:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: PatStein Sonar_Gal award3535 dan408 graphite6 inode0 jaysonr kk4ewt lcameron rbergeron
01:02:27 <inode0> #topic Announcements
01:02:43 <inode0> graphite6 will be your guest host tonight :)
01:03:14 <award3535> cool
01:03:19 <graphite6> yup, so have patience with my slow typing
01:03:41 <rbergeron> ;)
01:03:51 <graphite6> for announcements, I'll be speaking at Ohio Linuxfest
01:03:59 <rbergeron> woooo
01:04:10 <chanchito> greetings all
01:04:36 <award3535> evening
01:05:06 <award3535> who is the owner of OLF
01:05:21 <inode0> graphite6 :)
01:05:36 <graphite6> I knew that would be coming, lol
01:05:36 <inode0> no one last I checked
01:05:49 <farmerrob> Greetings
01:05:58 <dan408> hey farmerrob
01:06:03 <graphite6> I can do it since I know I'll be attending now
01:06:27 <graphite6> should be switch to tickets now?
01:06:34 <award3535> +1
01:06:36 <graphite6> any other announcements?
01:06:45 <graphite6> going once
01:06:50 <rbergeron> !
01:07:00 <graphite6> rbergeron: go
01:07:14 <rbergeron> good luck to inode0 this weekend at TLF speaking. and award3535 in driving a long ways. :D
01:07:17 <rbergeron> EOF :)
01:07:37 <award3535> thanks
01:07:39 <graphite6> w00t w00t to inode0 and award3535!
01:07:51 <farmerrob> Hello
01:07:55 <award3535> no beefy yet, but have everything else
01:08:01 <graphite6> #info inode0 and award3535will be at TLF this weekend
01:08:16 <graphite6> #info graphite6 will be speaking at OLF
01:08:25 <graphite6> time for tickets...
01:08:38 <graphite6> #topic Tickets
01:09:08 <graphite6> hmmm, but how do I do that pull in the ticket info thing?
01:09:35 <inode0> .famnaticket #
01:10:13 <rbergeron> the big list is at https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:10:22 <graphite6> .famnaticket #10
01:10:22 <zodbot> graphite6: Error: '#10' is not a valid integer.
01:10:31 <inode0> no #
01:10:35 <graphite6> .famnaticket 10
01:10:36 <zodbot> graphite6: #10 (Texas Linux Fest 2012, Aug 3-4, San Antonio, TX) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/10
01:11:06 <graphite6> so who has TLF news or questions?
01:11:12 <inode0> I think we are all set, with Beefy on his way.
01:11:12 <farmerrob> Wish I could go
01:11:32 * rbergeron hopes beefy gets there
01:11:35 <award3535> is beefy do to arrive on the 1st
01:11:43 <kk4ewt> 1Z9W2V650395615903
01:11:47 <dramsey> :)
01:11:49 <kk4ewt> he was suppose to
01:11:59 <kk4ewt> but looks like friday now
01:12:10 <inode0> Friday is sort of bad
01:12:17 <inode0> unless he was shipped to Texas
01:12:19 <kk4ewt> i will take the blame for this ithought i shipped it 3 day
01:12:41 <kk4ewt> but according to the ticket its showing ground
01:12:52 <inode0> oh, well, we will survive
01:12:57 <rbergeron> can you get in and update the shipping?
01:13:03 <rbergeron> or redirect his final destination?
01:14:09 <award3535> if not my daughter will be taking care of the house while we are away and make sure it gets in the house
01:14:37 <rbergeron> kk4ewt: i think only you could as the person who originated the package. we can probably discuss after meeting if we dont think we can make a decision right this second
01:14:54 <kk4ewt> rbergeron:  just tried NO
01:15:21 <graphite6> any other TLF items that need to be discussed?
01:15:22 <award3535> i agree, since we are just two, and dont expect a large crowd
01:15:43 <award3535> we will survive without beefy
01:16:14 <graphite6> .famnaticket 23
01:16:16 <zodbot> graphite6: #23 (Community Leadership Summit 2012, Jul 14-15, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/23
01:16:48 <graphite6> So I know I'm still on deck for my reports from the event :)
01:16:55 <rbergeron> though i did see your photos :)
01:17:01 <inode0> that ticket and the oscon ticket were just left to remind us we need trip reports from sponsored attendees - I haven't checked if we have those yet
01:17:27 <graphite6> Does anyone else have reports from CLS?
01:17:28 * rbergeron has some stuff to write as well, at lesat about CLS, just trying to um... keep it on the up and up
01:17:37 <rbergeron> BE POSITIVE! that kind of thing
01:18:02 <graphite6> rbergeron: :D - and you are FAB POSITIVE!
01:18:53 <graphite6> #info rbergeron and graphite6 will be posting reports about CLS soon
01:19:15 <graphite6> Any other CLS goodiness before I move onto Oscon?
01:19:25 <graphite6> and just yell at me if I'm moving too fast :D
01:19:46 <award3535> you are doing just fine
01:19:51 <rbergeron> there is no yelling around here :) I think oscon is probably the same story.
01:19:59 * rbergeron did see a lot of photos and etc. from mark
01:20:00 <inode0> #info Reminder to CLS/OSCON sponsored attendees to submit trip reports on the event wiki pages
01:20:23 <graphite6> inode0: +1
01:20:46 <graphite6> .famnaticket 24
01:20:48 <zodbot> graphite6: #24 (OSCON 2012, Jul 16-20, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/24
01:21:13 <graphite6> #info graphite6 owes a trip report for OSCON
01:21:57 <graphite6> .famnaticket 26
01:21:59 <zodbot> graphite6: #26 (Ohio LinuxFest 2012, Sep 28-30, Columbus, OH) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/26
01:22:21 <rbergeron> hooooray OLF
01:22:27 <graphite6> So unless someone else is burning to own this event, I can do it
01:22:39 <award3535> +1
01:22:48 <graphite6> As long as I can bother someone with questions who has more experience :D
01:23:40 <rbergeron> There are lots of us who love being bothered. :)
01:23:43 <inode0> just grab it and if others are going they can help
01:23:48 <graphite6> So did we ever figure out if we really sponsored this eveny?
01:23:52 <inode0> I'll help if I get to go
01:23:57 <inode0> no
01:24:01 <graphite6> event (sp)
01:24:24 <graphite6> Who would have sent in the sponsorship money if we did sponsor it?
01:24:36 <inode0> Ruth or Robyn
01:24:42 <award3535> I may decide to attend this one also, have to check how much time I have on the books for leave
01:24:55 <dan408> what's the process of getting a non fedora event sponsored?
01:24:58 <inode0> I suspect they just left us on there because we always sponsor it
01:25:05 <farmerrob> Yes
01:25:22 <inode0> we don't sponsor non-Fedora events that I know of
01:25:23 <rbergeron> I have not, I don't think ruth has either.
01:25:31 <rbergeron> well, OLF is a non-fedora event :)
01:25:38 <dan408> heh
01:25:49 <inode0> no, it is a Fedora event - it is on the wiki saying so!
01:26:05 <graphite6> okay, do we want to look into sponsoring it/getting a booth?
01:26:08 <farmerrob> So get it on the wiki then it is
01:26:08 <rbergeron> If someone said "we're sponsoring this" and it was agreed on in a meeting and we get something saying "plz sign this and send money" then we send the money.
01:26:10 <dan408> well i could give an example, but I don't want to get off topic
01:26:11 <rbergeron> YES.
01:26:24 <inode0> so, for any event Fedora is running sponsorship is normally handled through the normal budget process for the event
01:26:47 <farmerrob> I cool
01:26:50 <inode0> Fedora isn't running, I mean
01:27:07 <dan408> ok
01:27:08 <inode0> some we help, some we pass on
01:27:11 <rbergeron> "non premier events" :)
01:27:20 <inode0> yes
01:27:26 <dan408> it's a completely unrelated subject
01:27:32 <graphite6> so I can see what the sponsorship/booth requirements are and report back next week
01:27:43 <inode0> good question though so we can digress for it :)
01:27:47 <dan408> okay well
01:27:52 <dan408> I attened ASUS ROG event
01:27:52 * inode0 is so much nicer when he isn't in charge
01:28:01 * kk4ewt motions we give OLF a $500 sponsorship
01:28:15 <rbergeron> kk4ewt: can we let sarah make the wiki page first :)
01:28:19 <dan408> it would have been a great place to try and get some support from those hardware vendors for fedora and also have a fedora booth
01:28:32 <rbergeron> (so she can learn and stuff)
01:28:49 <dan408> i didnt find out about the event until 2 or 3 days prior
01:29:00 <kk4ewt> graphite6:  look at my old olf pages to help
01:29:11 <dan408> hardware is totally unrelated topic but it was still an event and it still made me think
01:29:15 <farmerrob> Where is it?
01:29:18 <graphite6> kk4ewt: thanks, I will!
01:30:06 <dan408> they were even serving beefy miracles!
01:30:12 <dan408> rbergeron saw my pic!
01:30:48 <graphite6> yum, beefy miracles! (graphite6 hasn't had dinner)
01:30:56 * dan408 is hungry as well
01:31:11 * kk4ewt looks like i may be able to make OLF
01:31:14 * inode0 suggests we finish the tickets and you can all go eat
01:31:17 * rbergeron three
01:31:21 <graphite6> do we want to cut to a new topic to discuss hardware?
01:31:28 <dan408> no
01:31:30 <dan408> not here
01:31:32 <graphite6> or the rest of the tickets?
01:31:39 <kk4ewt> rest of tickets
01:31:39 <rbergeron> yes, rest of tickets :)
01:31:40 <award3535> tickets
01:31:45 <graphite6> gotcha
01:32:11 <graphite6> #action graphite6 will report on sponsorship requirements for OLF
01:32:32 <graphite6> .famnaticket 36
01:32:33 <zodbot> graphite6: #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36
01:32:59 <graphite6> Any new news on FADNA?
01:33:04 <dan408> i have not done any work on coming up with an agenda
01:33:10 <dan408> i have been busy with MATE desktop
01:33:20 <dan408> but I will try and propose an agenda for FADNA
01:33:30 <dan408> a good, well balanced covering all topics
01:33:42 <dan408> location has yet to be voted on
01:34:25 <dan408> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2012
01:35:16 <dan408> we should decide on a date
01:35:20 <dan408> and finalize it
01:35:50 <dan408> i think it should also happen before or after spherical cow
01:35:56 <rbergeron> do we want to give some fair warning that perhaps that is the plan for next week, so people actually show up?
01:36:14 <dan408> yes, could you please email the list?
01:36:16 <farmerrob> that would be good
01:36:19 <graphite6> rbergeron: +1
01:36:23 <award3535> +1
01:36:24 <rbergeron> dan408: that is generally "in the future" so yes, probably :)
01:36:25 <dan408> or do you want me to do so?
01:36:41 <award3535> still no lcation
01:36:53 <dan408> rbergeron: well I was saying we dont want to do it the same time Spherical Cow is released as many resources will be tied up by it
01:37:08 <rbergeron> dan408: yes, though they are usually tied up beforehand as well
01:37:17 <dan408> rbergeron: good point.
01:37:17 <rbergeron> like the several weeks beforehand
01:37:36 <dan408> and the several bugfixing weeks after? :)
01:38:21 <dan408> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Schedule
01:38:22 <graphite6> so some dates at least a month before release or a month after release?
01:38:46 <award3535> after may suit others
01:38:47 <rbergeron> pretty much. beginning of oct. or beg. of dec
01:38:49 <dan408> so we were thinking the weekend of October 19-22?
01:38:58 <dan408> that would be a week or so before the final release
01:38:59 <rbergeron> after is harder - because the release date isn't firm
01:39:10 <rbergeron> dan408: release is scheduled for nov. 8
01:39:16 <dan408> nov 6
01:39:20 <dan408> that's what the wiki says
01:39:27 <farmerrob> yes
01:39:27 <dan408> or are you using that other schedule you have? :)
01:39:29 <rbergeron> sorry, 6
01:39:42 <dan408> yes, so oct 19-22 would be good
01:39:42 <rbergeron> dan408: jreznik now has that other schedule :)
01:39:46 <dan408> hahaha
01:39:55 <rbergeron> that's not a month before though, that's like 2 weeks before
01:40:07 <dan408> so are you saying a month before?
01:40:11 <inode0> since FADNA is for ambassador work I really don't think we need to connect it to the release unless that is convenient and we have a good agenda
01:40:13 <dan408> because we were talking mid october previously
01:40:27 <farmerrob> agreed
01:40:30 <rbergeron> i thought that's what someone else just said
01:40:41 <dan408> inode0: I disagree. How are you supposed to evangelize fedora if you're not excited for the next release?
01:40:55 <rbergeron> being excited doesn't need to be paralyzing :)
01:41:00 <dan408> heheh
01:41:08 <rbergeron> if it was we
01:41:08 <inode0> that isn't what FADNA is about IMO
01:41:09 <farmerrob> You could still be excited
01:41:11 <rbergeron> d never ship anything
01:41:44 <dan408> alright
01:41:59 <rbergeron> let's get to next week and see what we ahve.
01:42:10 <dan408> okay
01:42:16 <rbergeron> dan408: i hereby entrust you with a reminder to that effect :)
01:42:18 <inode0> make a budget for year, planning which events to focus on and sponsor, etc.
01:42:27 <dan408> rbergeron: will do
01:42:33 * dan408 adds it to his tasklist
01:42:36 <rbergeron> inode0: +1
01:42:40 <inode0> are the sorts of things I can see with concrete deliverables
01:43:01 <graphite6> dan408 will you send out an announcement saying we'll decide on the date for FADNA at the next meeting?
01:43:18 <rbergeron> (or evaluate our possibilities)
01:43:24 <dan408> i'll send out a broadcast
01:44:23 <graphite6> #action dan408 will send out an announcement regarding evaluating/deciding the date of the FADNA during next Tuesday's meeting
01:44:53 <graphite6> anything else regarding FADNA planning?
01:45:04 <dan408> no that's it for now.
01:45:06 <award3535> who decides location
01:45:16 <dan408> that will be discussed next week
01:45:21 <award3535> roger
01:45:25 <dan408> if you have any serious proposals please add them to the trac ticket
01:45:26 <rbergeron> we need to agree on it, and we should take a number of things into account
01:45:30 <dan408> yes
01:45:33 <dan408> that will be in my email
01:45:47 <award3535> my suggestions are already there
01:46:23 <graphite6> #info dan408 FADNA date announcement will also include info about location suggestions and requirements
01:46:32 <dan408> ^
01:46:36 <dan408> +1 graphite6
01:47:11 <graphite6> .famnaticket 37
01:47:14 <zodbot> graphite6: #37 (Proposal for distributing Fedora swag outside of conferences/events) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/37
01:47:29 * rbergeron looks for an ianweller
01:47:39 <ianweller> hiya
01:47:43 <ianweller> that's blocking on legal
01:47:46 <ianweller> you can move to the next topic
01:48:08 <rbergeron> oh
01:48:50 <graphite6> That's it for tickets, going to move to open floor in a second
01:49:51 <graphite6> #topic Open Floor
01:50:13 * jaysonr just wants to say hi. it's my first meeting and just ping me if I can ever help with anytyhing.
01:50:27 * dan408 waves @ jaysonr
01:50:34 <farmerrob> Hello
01:50:35 * PatStein Waves @ Jaysonr
01:50:36 <graphite6> jaysonr: Hello and welcome!
01:50:39 * rbergeron thinks we now have a booth for linuxcon at the end of august. and I am going to file a event page and whatnot.
01:50:43 <rbergeron> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon
01:50:44 <dramsey> Welcome jaysonr.  :)
01:50:51 * inode0 welcomes jaysonr and jduncan as new ambassadors
01:50:59 <chanchito> idem!
01:51:01 <inode0> should have done that in an announcement
01:51:26 <award3535> welcome!
01:51:35 <graphite6> #info Welcome to new ambassadors jaysonr and jduncan!
01:51:38 <rbergeron> there are probably like 10+ people who will be there as speakers and can probably help at the booth. also, i will celebrate my birthday from there. :) muhahahha
01:51:41 <rbergeron> 29 again.
01:51:45 <inode0> jduncan is on the beach right now I believe
01:51:59 <graphite6> #info Fedora will now have booth at Linuxcon
01:52:27 <rbergeron> That is I think all I have for open floor, unless you feel inclined to review http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Accounting/DraftFY13 for missing items.
01:52:47 <rbergeron> So that I can go back to daddy shadowman and be firm.
01:52:58 <graphite6> #action rbergeron will set up the linuxcon event page
01:53:31 <graphite6> chanchito: I have some pics for you, I'll send them this week, I promise!
01:53:45 <dan408> why are all the sponsored events all linux events?
01:53:49 <chanchito> mil gracias graphite6!
01:54:02 <inode0> we go to linux events?
01:54:11 <graphite6> #info please review the draft FY13 budget
01:54:20 <dan408> yeah but there are other events out there that relate to linux that are not speicially linux
01:54:22 <dan408> specifically*
01:54:30 <graphite6> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Accounting/DraftFY13
01:54:51 <inode0> sure, and we have attended some
01:55:07 <inode0> SXSW and penguicon come to mind
01:55:08 <rbergeron> because nobody has proposed many otherwise.
01:55:11 <dan408> are those more in the redhat circle?
01:55:15 <dan408> rbergeron: ok.
01:55:23 <rbergeron> dan408: did you have something else in mind
01:55:27 <dan408> yes
01:55:28 <dan408> plenty
01:55:50 <rbergeron> dan408: also pockets aren't bottomless so we do try to hit the things closest to us
01:56:10 <graphite6> dan408 I go to a lot of Java/developer conferences as a roving ambassador but getting a booth at them is really, really expensive
01:56:31 <graphite6> as in $10,000 to $50,000
01:56:35 <dan408> i just don't think a linux event is a good place to promote linux, because well, it's like preaching to the choir.
01:56:36 <inode0> backpack booths work great at some events
01:56:54 <dan408> graphite6: i wasn't referring to that type of event
01:56:57 <inode0> it is and we do think about that from time to time
01:57:23 <dan408> inode0: okay, that's the first thing that came to mind when looking at this page, is i see dozens of events about open source this and linux that
01:57:25 <dan408> and not much
01:57:28 <dan408> not much else*
01:57:30 <rbergeron> dan408: there is an old story somewhere about how (i think) ivory soap stopped advertising because they figured everyone knew about them. there is something to be said about brand impressions and etc.
01:57:48 <rbergeron> and converting likely users also from one place to another
01:57:49 <inode0> and while sending people to other events like pycon makes good sense for us sponsoring those events I don't think makes much sense currently
01:57:57 <dan408> Fedora is not ivory soap.
01:58:03 <kk4ewt> dan408:  i agree to a point, but if we are not at those events, future contributors will think we are a dying project
01:58:06 <dan408> i got the analogy.
01:58:12 <rbergeron> dan408: it is a general truism about marketing and branding.
01:58:18 <dan408> right
01:58:30 <rbergeron> and we do go to other events, just not as a sponsor.
01:58:39 <dan408> let me submit exhibit A
01:58:51 <dan408> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/524014_349519195127017_302444452_n.jpg
01:58:53 <dan408> nuff said.
01:59:04 <rbergeron> maybe you could elaborate on it for the record of this meeting
01:59:12 <rbergeron> instead of saying nuff said :)
01:59:36 <dan408> i interact with people very often that their only real experience is ubuntu and they have never even heard of fedora.
02:00:21 <rbergeron> there are a variety of reasons for that, and they aren't encessarily "we went to sesamestreetcon"
02:00:37 <rbergeron> or whatever the non-linux/non-open source events are that you are referring to.
02:00:39 <dan408> right
02:00:50 <dan408> they are not
02:01:02 <dan408> but it's a good place to start
02:01:06 <graphite6> dan408 is ubuntu on a conference track fedora is missing?
02:01:15 <dan408> no.
02:01:24 <rbergeron> and i would argue that people who do use ubuntu aren't necessarily going to have their needs met by using fedora.
02:01:31 <dan408> ubuntu is dying out actually.
02:01:31 <kk4ewt> dan408:  i want to introduce you to SGS
02:01:33 <rbergeron> and neither are people who use fedora going to have their needs met by ubuntu.
02:02:10 <rbergeron> but yes, more ideas are better.
02:02:18 <rbergeron> so feel free to propose such things/events
02:02:23 <dan408> yep
02:02:50 <chanchito> ubuntu server and desktop are now available from dell on certain models
02:03:00 <chanchito> believe it or not
02:03:02 <rbergeron> and so is RHEL :)
02:03:04 <kk4ewt> chanchito:  old news
02:03:08 <graphite6> yes, definitely add tickets/wikipages if you come across an idea/event with potential
02:03:15 * dan408 has a dell mini 9 that came with ubuntu
02:03:31 <dan408> dell + ubuntu have had a partnership for a while
02:03:33 <dan408> anyways
02:03:37 <chanchito> i know it's old news ben, the point is we aren't there yet as a consumer option
02:03:37 <dan408> that's off topic right now
02:03:41 <inode0> so do I but it runs Beefy Miracle now
02:03:49 <chanchito> nevermind
02:04:13 <chanchito> comments withdrawn
02:04:15 <rbergeron> chanchito: i don't think we ever will be, at least not from a vendor who does stuff at scale
02:04:18 <dan408> inode0: mine was running XP and i'd attempt at installing beefy but the power supply on it is dead :)
02:04:19 <inode0> dell + RHEL have one too
02:04:23 <rbergeron> chanchito: no, it's good for people who don't know.
02:05:07 <graphite6> I'll be ending the meeting in 3 minutes...my kabob is calling, lol
02:05:11 <dan408> i think we have a ways to go before you would see fedora netbook friendly
02:05:13 <award3535> coming from the windows environment, youre absolutely right people just dont know
02:05:31 <farmerrob> yes
02:05:39 * inode0 thinks F17 is fine on his mini 9 really
02:05:43 <farmerrob> I have Fedora Netbook
02:05:48 <rbergeron> i think it more has to do with the supported life cycle than anything else.
02:05:53 * jaysonr has F17 on a mini 9 as well
02:06:00 <dan408> try sandy bridge
02:06:07 <rbergeron> it is fine for us; dell wanting to support somtehing that they sell when it has a 13 month life is a different story. :)
02:06:07 <dan408> or any intel c200 chipset
02:06:11 <rbergeron> anyway
02:06:14 <dan408> just sit in 3fedora for a while
02:06:17 <dan408> err #fedora
02:06:19 <farmerrob> Unity is bugy
02:06:28 <dan408> and take note of the majority of issues users are reporting
02:06:41 <inode0> and it would be at most half that life by the time it went out the door
02:06:59 <rbergeron> inode0: yes
02:07:19 <rbergeron> okay, anything else?
02:07:20 <jaysonr> inode0: exactly - i was really happy to hear about the RHEL Precision laptops recently announced
02:07:25 * rbergeron needs to eat eat eat
02:07:37 * kk4ewt motions to close
02:07:43 <dan408> yeah
02:07:45 <award3535> good night every one
02:07:50 * dan408 heads to subway
02:08:07 <graphite6> okay, will be ending....
02:08:10 * inode0 thanks graphite6 for giving him most of the night off tonight
02:08:25 <inode0> It is nice to participate without the overhead of running the meeting for a change :)
02:08:26 <graphite6> inode0: anytime :D
02:08:42 <graphite6> #endmeeting