19:02:19 <gholms> #startmeeting Cloud SIG (13 Jul 2012) 19:02:19 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Jul 13 19:02:19 2012 UTC. The chair is gholms. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:02:19 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:02:24 <rbergeron> thank you. 19:02:25 <gholms> #meetingname cloud_sig 19:02:25 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'cloud_sig' 19:02:31 * rbergeron needs to fix that somehow 19:02:33 <gholms> #topic Robot Roll Call 19:02:36 <gholms> Who's here? 19:02:36 * rbergeron 19:02:43 <gholms> Hello, mah cloudies! 19:02:51 <gholms> #chair rbergeron jforbes 19:02:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: gholms jforbes rbergeron 19:03:01 <kraman1> hi 19:03:09 <rbergeron> hiya 19:03:22 <tdawson> Greetings 19:03:33 <rbergeron> hey mr. dawson 19:03:55 <tdawson> I have to say, I'm impressed at how fast you type on a phone. 19:04:13 <rbergeron> lol 19:04:21 <agrimm> o/ 19:04:26 <rbergeron> i've been practising since they had typing pagers 19:04:30 * shaon waves 19:04:35 <rbergeron> well, shall we start? 19:04:50 <rbergeron> i think agenda is looking like openshift and euca status 19:05:01 <rbergeron> hi shaon 19:05:08 <gholms> #topic OpenShift 19:05:13 <gholms> tdawson: Yo. 19:05:14 <shaon> hello rbergeron :) 19:05:39 <rbergeron> tdawson: whats the word? 19:05:39 * gholms needs to step out for a moment 19:05:41 <tdawson> So, although the openshift features page looks scary, this upcomming week is when we start going full bore. 19:05:44 * rbergeron looks for maxamillion 19:05:45 <gholms> rbergeron: The bird is the word. 19:05:47 * gholms runs 19:05:54 <tdawson> We wanted to wait for the features that were comming out in this release. 19:06:08 <tdawson> Which is being released on monday/tuesday. 19:06:14 <rbergeron> verrry nice 19:06:42 <tdawson> We've been working on some spec files so that hopefully we can use the same spec file for F18 as well as RHEL6. 19:07:06 <tdawson> We're hoping they get approved by the ruby guys, because that would make our world a whole lot easier. 19:07:06 <rbergeron> and you guys have about a month to get functional, and more time before you have to be at 100 percent 19:07:18 * rbergeron nods 19:07:31 <tdawson> We also discussed about this "stability" issue. 19:07:58 <tdawson> Our plan is to keep whatever we release for F18, stable, except for security and/or big major bugs. 19:08:15 <tdawson> But as we release at the end of each sprint, we will publish those packages into rawhide. 19:08:48 <tdawson> So if a user does want the new features, they can get them from rawhide. 19:09:22 <rbergeron> very cool 19:09:30 <gholms> That sounds like a great plan. 19:09:31 <tdawson> We've also forked passenger ... we call it ridealong 19:09:41 <gholms> Gave up on upstream? 19:09:54 <gholms> It's too bad, too. After all that work... :( 19:10:04 <tdawson> Well, we haven't totally given up, but for now, we have to do what we have to do. 19:10:25 <agrimm> gholms, the rawhide thing _is_ a great plan. euca should do that. :) 19:10:39 <gholms> agrimm: Yeeeessss 19:11:11 <tdawson> We still don't have it up on github, but we've made some unofficial rpm packages. 19:12:04 <tdawson> I think that's about it, unless I missed something. 19:12:26 <tdawson> Hopefully by the end of next week we'll have our percetage higher than it currently is. 19:12:53 <rbergeron> thank you :D 19:13:10 * rbergeron will harass abojt a test day further down the road 19:13:45 <tdawson> Ya, it's good to have something to test before getting harassed about it. ;) 19:13:54 <rbergeron> gholms: /me cues you 19:13:56 <gholms> Anyone have questions about OpenShift? 19:13:57 <rbergeron> yup 19:14:33 * gholms takes the silence as a "no" 19:14:46 <gholms> #topic Eucalyptus 19:15:15 <gholms> agrimm, mspaulding: Either of you up for driving this one? 19:15:25 <agrimm> gholms, have you been keeping everybody updated? I know I've missed a couple of weeks, so I don't know what you've told people 19:15:46 <agrimm> but I can give status as I know it 19:15:51 <gholms> I haven't had much to say because Eucalyptus hadn't planned much until now. 19:15:56 <agrimm> ok. 19:16:12 <agrimm> So, we've submitted Euca as a feature for F18 19:16:27 <agrimm> and mspaulding is now a packager, which is awesome 19:16:40 <mspaulding> yay 19:16:44 <gholms> #info Eucalyptus submitted as a F18 feature 19:16:51 <rbergeron> wooo 19:17:17 <agrimm> we have an upstream issue (and lots of subtasks) for tracking what we're doing: https://eucalyptus.atlassian.net/browse/EUCA-2578 19:17:49 <agrimm> as well as the ongoing packaging work tracked here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Eucalyptus 19:18:06 <agrimm> Did the oVirt guys ever make any progress with GWT? 19:18:08 <gholms> #link https://eucalyptus.atlassian.net/browse/EUCA-2578 Eucalyptus upstream issue for Fedora 19:18:19 <rbergeron> agrimm: no clue 19:18:26 <rbergeron> re: gwt 19:18:27 <gholms> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Eucalyptus packaging tracker 19:18:55 <rbergeron> is gwt blocking you guys? 19:19:10 <gholms> The lack thereof will. 19:19:30 <rbergeron> what i mean is 19:19:42 <rbergeron> is someone from ovirt supposed to be doing something 19:20:28 <agrimm> rbergeron, well, I just thought they'd get to it before me 19:20:30 <agrimm> :) 19:20:34 <rbergeron> or can you just do it :D 19:20:34 <rbergeron> ah 19:20:36 <rbergeron> okay 19:20:48 <agrimm> and I am *not* really qualified to fix the problems gwt has 19:20:57 <agrimm> to be completely honest 19:21:03 <mspaulding> agrimm: what kind of problems? 19:21:33 <agrimm> mspaulding, interoperability which eclipse libraries newer than what upstream builds against 19:21:47 <mspaulding> ah 19:22:40 <rbergeron> that sounds.... complicated 19:23:44 <rbergeron> is gwt a total blocker? 19:24:04 <agrimm> no, it only blocks the admin web UI, which isn't _really_ required 19:24:12 <ayoung> Sorry I'm late 19:24:19 <agrimm> we turned it off in Debian 19:24:43 <agrimm> management is not happy about that, but it's functional 19:24:56 <ayoung> GWT is a mistake IMHO...there, I said it. 19:25:23 <ayoung> So go and rewrite Eucalyptus 19:25:24 * agrimm isn't going to argue with that 19:25:26 <gholms> ayoung: Preaching to the choir here :) 19:25:30 <ayoung> Ha! 19:26:08 <gholms> Anyone have anything else for Eucalyptus? 19:26:11 <ayoung> I know RHQ is using GWT as well 19:26:22 <ayoung> perhaps they have more movement on its packaging? 19:26:32 * rbergeron will see obino tomorrow presumably 19:26:34 <gholms> I'm going to see if I can update euca2ools in rawhide. 19:26:41 <ayoung> As is RHEV-M now that I think about it 19:27:08 <rbergeron> yep, we were just discussing ovirts use 19:27:39 <ayoung> Ah right... 19:28:28 <agrimm> I'll ping people in #fedora-java about it on monday 19:29:11 <agrimm> aside from that, almost all of the packages we need are up for review. at that point the work is more about making euca work with the version of packages in fedora, and meeting guidelines for things like systemd and selinux 19:30:11 <rbergeron> :D 19:30:46 <rbergeron> no big woop, right? 19:31:00 <agrimm> riiight 19:31:04 <gholms> One way to find out! 19:31:09 * gholms hides 19:32:08 <gholms> Anything else here, or shall we move on? 19:32:17 <agrimm> I'm done for this week 19:32:35 <gholms> #topic Open floor 19:32:39 <rbergeron> i have nothing, unless anyone wants to talk cloud fad 19:32:45 <gholms> Any questions? Thoughts? 19:32:47 <rbergeron> or zonker has something 19:32:47 <gholms> Tomatoes? 19:32:52 * rbergeron pokes at jzb 19:33:04 <gholms> rbergeron: Any word on getting your computer fixed? 19:33:11 <ayoung> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenStack_status_report_2012-07-12 19:33:30 <gholms> Thanks, ayoung! 19:33:48 <gholms> Any commentary on that, or does the page speak for itself? 19:33:55 <ayoung> I'm going to talk Keystone at The Boston Group this month 19:34:03 <ayoung> so some shameless self promotion 19:34:10 <gholms> #info ayoung to talk Keystone at The Boston Group this month 19:34:11 <ayoung> Summit went over really well 19:34:18 <ayoung> Let me post a link to the lab 19:34:21 <rbergeron> hoooooray summit 19:35:14 <ayoung> http://fedorapeople.org/~russellb/openstack-lab-rhsummit-2012/ 19:35:38 <ayoung> really detailed and well done by Russell and Derek 19:36:19 <ayoung> Openshift and Openstack should probably compare notes regarding Identity Management 19:36:24 <ayoung> Euca too 19:36:59 * gholms bookmarks 19:37:17 <rbergeron> ayoung: how so? 19:37:48 <ayoung> rbergeron, well, if Openstack is going to be able to launch on top of Openstack, or on Euca, it needs to have a common view of Auth 19:37:49 <ayoung> so 19:38:02 * jzb pokes rbergeron 19:38:14 <rbergeron> openshift? 19:38:20 <ayoung> yeah 19:38:21 <rbergeron> on top of 19:38:23 <rbergeron> okay 19:38:25 <jzb> I got nothin today. Check with me after OSCON :-) 19:38:39 * ayoung is going to start a project named CloudShift just cuz 19:38:43 <rbergeron> jzb: i'll check with you at oscon :D 19:40:06 <rbergeron> ayoung: so maybe that's a mailing list topic? 19:40:13 <tdawson> ayoung: I know of one guy who is looking at openshift on openstack ... I'll ask him about authentication, how compatable they are. 19:40:14 <ayoung> rbergeron, yeas 19:40:21 <gholms> ayoung: I used to have a regular expression on the wall that counted all the open/cloud/stack/shift/nebula things out there. :P 19:41:38 <gholms> Anyone have more stuff to talk about? 19:41:45 * gholms will close in one minute otherwise 19:42:41 <gholms> Thanks for participating, everyone! 19:42:46 <gholms> #endmeeting