05:03:00 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
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05:03:05 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:03:14 <tagoh> #topic agenda and roll call
05:03:23 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-05-24
05:03:36 <juhp> hi
05:03:37 <tagoh> hi guys, shall we have i18n meeting now?
05:03:43 <dueno> hi
05:04:21 <paragan> hi
05:06:30 <tagoh> okay, let's get started.
05:06:40 <tagoh> #topic F17
05:07:17 <anish_> hi
05:07:28 <tagoh> well, not too much to pick up here. if it's approved in today's go/no-go meeting, f17 will be released next Tuesday.
05:07:28 <epico_laptop> hi
05:07:40 <fujiwarat> hi
05:07:53 <tagoh> is there any concerns on f17? we still have a chance to bring up if any.
05:08:26 <juhp> aha
05:08:39 * juhp finally upgraded to F17
05:10:07 <tagoh> .bug 824307
05:10:44 <tagoh> wonder how often it crash
05:11:41 <tagoh> dueno: any comments?
05:12:10 <juhp> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824307
05:12:35 <tagoh> juhp: thanks
05:12:51 <juhp> hm
05:13:09 <dueno> on my env (jp106 keyboard), it's 100% - but maybe depends on configuration
05:13:32 <juhp> anish_, ^ probably not so hard to fix? :)
05:14:03 <anish_> juhp, :)
05:14:27 <tagoh> if it doesn't affect for targeted locales, that would be good to fix in 0-day updates.
05:14:34 <juhp> tagoh: yes
05:15:30 * juhp found biggest surprises after upgrading in emacs...!
05:16:00 <tagoh> anything more?
05:17:05 <tagoh> if not, let's move on.
05:17:28 <tagoh> #topic F18
05:17:53 <tagoh> any feature planning so far?
05:18:46 <tagoh> guess we'll have one for Liberation perhaps?
05:19:00 <anish_> as discussed earlier i am planning ibus-hunspell as feature
05:19:30 <tagoh> anish_: sure. please open a page for that then :)
05:20:07 <anish_> tagoh, thanks
05:21:08 <tagoh> once you created, will add it to the meeting agenda. please let me know.
05:21:28 <anish_> okay
05:21:34 <tagoh> cool
05:22:13 <epico_laptop> how to continue to develop a existed feature?
05:22:20 <epico_laptop> in feature wiki page?
05:23:13 <tagoh> epico_laptop: if it's approved and complete, open another one. otherwise you can reuse the existing one to get approved again.
05:23:36 <epico_laptop> tagoh: guess there are two ways to do it?
05:24:11 <juhp> epico_laptop, probably you want a new feature page if it is for pinyin?
05:24:26 <epico_laptop> okay, I see.
05:24:31 <epico_laptop> yes, for libpinyin.
05:25:06 <tagoh> okay, good
05:26:30 <tagoh> if not particularly so far, move on then.
05:26:42 <tagoh> #topic Input Methods
05:26:56 <tagoh> well, any updates to share on IM?
05:28:00 <tagoh> fujiwarat: guess you may want to talk about gnome integration bits?
05:29:20 <fujiwarat> Ah, currently I'm working on ibus-xkb from fedora ibus internal patches. Now it's almost done and I'm also creating ibus-gjs package for fedora.
05:29:49 <tagoh> as you may know a lot of reviews for fcitx is ongoing fwiw.
05:30:01 <tagoh> fujiwarat: cool
05:30:10 <epico_laptop> some packages seems to get into f17 updates-testing.
05:30:21 <tagoh> epico_laptop: aha
05:30:48 <fujiwarat> Probably myself don't mind fcitx.
05:30:52 <fujiwarat> :)
05:31:16 <tagoh> how's the discussion in upstream going on?
05:31:40 <epico_laptop> someone said according to the votes, fcitx maybe becomes default in opensuse.
05:32:07 <epico_laptop> in ibus-user mailing list.
05:32:11 <tagoh> epico_laptop: aha. interesting
05:32:41 <tagoh> is it for all of langauges requires IM?
05:32:55 <fujiwarat> I think it's almost closed in the discussion. phuang also replied to the malinglist:
05:33:20 <fujiwarat> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-May/msg00286.html
05:33:20 <epico_laptop> tagoh: not sure about that.
05:33:55 <epico_laptop> guess fcitx not popular for JK.
05:34:39 <juhp> epico_laptop, I guess because suse is comparatively popular in China
05:34:41 <tagoh> fujiwarat: I see
05:34:58 <epico_laptop> the vote is in Simplified Chinese and English...
05:35:29 <epico_laptop> sorry, Traditional Chinese not SC.
05:35:36 <juhp> aha
05:35:44 <juhp> so only for TC?
05:36:22 <epico_laptop> but fcitx is from SC community...
05:36:32 <tagoh> aha
05:36:39 <epico_laptop> guess many SC users can still read it.
05:36:51 <fujiwarat> epico_laptop: thx for sending the internal page.
05:37:08 <epico_laptop> fujiwarat: welcome:)
05:37:47 <epico_laptop> just feel vote strange only in Chinese and English.
05:37:56 <epico_laptop> s/vote/the vote/
05:38:46 <fujiwarat> Probably I think it's not a good result for GNOME if opensuse would choose another input method by default.
05:38:54 <tagoh> anyway, most packages is coming in Fedora. let's see how it goes and what community thinks. if it's really better than ibus, someone could propose to change the default in even Fedora.
05:41:05 <tagoh> In the meantime, we can also propose features to improve ibus experience.
05:41:34 <tagoh> anything more on IM?
05:42:16 <anish_> just a question  fcitx supports only Chinese  and Japanese input methods right?
05:43:10 <epico_laptop> anish_: in the past, only Chinese. but after 4.x, it changed.
05:43:43 <epico_laptop> anish_: many IM are implemented in 4.x.
05:44:14 <anish_> epico_laptop, thanks i have installed fcitx and i can see only chineese
05:44:24 <anish_> may be it is an older version
05:44:38 <epico_laptop> only in f17 updates-testing repo.
05:44:47 <anish_> okay
05:45:12 <tagoh> anything more?
05:46:48 <anish_> released ibus-hunspell with Indic UI support
05:47:02 <tagoh> cool
05:50:04 <tagoh> okay, better move on.
05:50:09 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:50:18 <tagoh> any updates on fonts and rendering?
05:53:47 <tagoh> nope? okay...
05:53:57 <tagoh> move on then
05:53:59 <tagoh> #topic Open Floor
05:54:09 <tagoh> any other topics we are missing in the agenda?
05:55:40 <tagoh> if not, will close the meeting shortly
05:57:03 <tagoh> okay, thanks everyone for the meeting!
05:57:07 <tagoh> #endmeeting