01:00:00 <inode0> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 16 01:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:02 <inode0> #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:12 <inode0> #chair rbergeron nb 01:00:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: inode0 nb rbergeron 01:00:21 <inode0> #topic Roll Call 01:00:29 * j_dulaney waves 01:00:38 * nb greets everyone enthusiastically! 01:00:38 <nb> lol 01:00:41 <award3535> evening everyone 01:00:45 * nb couldn't think of anything better to say 01:01:00 * kk4ewt 01:01:11 * graphite6 is munching on some green curry and chicken 01:01:28 <herlo> .fas herlo 01:01:29 <zodbot> herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1@gmail.com> 01:01:38 <inode0> #chair award3535 kk4ewt j_dulaney graphite6 herlo 01:01:38 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 graphite6 herlo inode0 j_dulaney kk4ewt nb rbergeron 01:01:51 <inode0> good prompt crowd :) 01:02:06 <inode0> #topic Announcements 01:02:30 <inode0> Nominations for the elections are closed now, here are some links. 01:02:30 * nb sits in his chair 01:02:45 <j_dulaney> .table nb 01:02:45 <zodbot> nb is put before a table heaping with bacon and other delights. 01:02:45 <inode0> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2012_F18_nominations 01:02:56 <inode0> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations 01:03:09 <inode0> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections/Nominations 01:03:13 * nb noms bacon and realizes he should do this in another channel not during the meating 01:03:31 <inode0> Please become acquainted with the candidates and vote in the elections 01:03:55 <inode0> #chair chanchito 01:03:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 chanchito graphite6 herlo inode0 j_dulaney kk4ewt nb rbergeron 01:04:03 <inode0> any other announcements? 01:04:25 <nb> case badges should arrive at my house RSN 01:04:36 <inode0> we will get to swag 01:05:33 <inode0> #topic Tickets 01:05:43 <rbergeron> hey! meetin 01:05:51 <inode0> .famnaticket 11 01:05:52 <zodbot> inode0: #11 (LinuxFest Northwest 2012, Apr 28-29, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/11 01:05:58 <rbergeron> sorry. I was just looking at the board nominees 01:06:16 <inode0> #topic #11 (LinuxFest Northwest 2012, Apr 28-29, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/11 01:06:16 <rbergeron> okay, I suck! I will do that tonight. :) 01:06:35 <rbergeron> I can write up the story of the person who came to the booth and said, "Oh, hey, yeah, I need to ask a *technical* question." 01:06:42 <rbergeron> As they leaned towards the male in the booth. 01:06:45 <rbergeron> "it's a tough question." 01:06:50 * inode0 looks for a volunteer to politely ask the owner of this for something on the event page for a report :) 01:06:53 <award3535> any reports on how the event faired 01:07:11 <rbergeron> but yes, I believe Jeff was the owner. :) 01:07:16 <inode0> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2012 01:07:24 <inode0> not where they belong :) 01:07:29 <rbergeron> Good thing he's technical, too. :) 01:07:47 <nb> rbergeron, lol i guess he didn't realize robyn knowas a lot too 01:08:03 * inode0 waits a bit longer for a volunteer 01:08:36 <inode0> I asked in the ticket itself, so I'm hoping someone else might send an email directly or something 01:09:17 * inode0 will give a volunteer a nice Fedora lanyard 01:10:03 <rbergeron> ooh! 01:10:35 <inode0> tough crowd, even bribes don't work 01:10:58 <award3535> I would be more than happy but I didnt attend 01:11:02 <inode0> #action inode0 will try to contact LFNW people again about getting reports added to the event page 01:11:07 * inode0 didn't attend either 01:11:32 <award3535> do we need to just post the information, or do we need to gather it 01:11:58 <rbergeron> nb: i think it's just lame to assume that i wouldn't know it. i'm not exactly booth babe material in my skimpy dress looking perfect or anything. 01:11:59 * j_dulaney wasn't there 01:12:05 <inode0> the event owner should gather it and put links at the bottom of the page I linked above 01:12:20 <inode0> why does everything think being there matters? 01:12:22 <nb> rbergeron, thats what i was getting at, people should not be sexist and assume women don't know stuff just because they're women 01:12:42 <inode0> let's open a sexism topic later please 01:12:48 <nb> ok 01:12:48 <nb> sorry 01:12:50 * rbergeron grins 01:13:02 <chanchito> :-) 01:13:03 <rbergeron> i'm still amused by it, not wounded mortally or anything 01:13:09 <inode0> no one can follow these meetings with too many digressions 01:13:14 * rbergeron shuts up 01:13:22 <award3535> I will contact the owners and see if they need help and aide in any way I can 01:13:26 <j_dulaney> LOL 01:13:49 <inode0> thanks award3535, please add that as an #action for yourself 01:14:24 <inode0> #action award3535 will try to contact LFNW people again about getting reports added to the event page replacing inode0 :) 01:14:41 <inode0> .famnaticket 32 01:14:42 <zodbot> inode0: #32 (SELF Brainstorming) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/32 01:14:45 <award3535> Thanks was just typing that 01:14:57 <inode0> #topic #32 (SELF Brainstorming) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/32 01:15:20 <inode0> more stuff for SELF anyone? 01:15:28 <inode0> buttons are coming along? 01:15:29 <rbergeron> Ruth left a message today with two hot dog vendors. 01:15:33 <rbergeron> Cart people. 01:15:36 <rbergeron> And the hotel (again). 01:15:51 <graphite6> do we want to look at the button proofs now or during the swag discussion? 01:15:55 * inode0 thinks a dog cart will be so cool 01:15:59 <kk4ewt> award3535: would you mind shareing your room (and also do you have a room reservation) 01:16:09 <rbergeron> We do have room for a food barrel, confirmed. 01:16:15 <inode0> graphite6: yes, absolutely! 01:16:23 <inode0> now is good 01:16:25 <j_dulaney> ! 01:16:44 <inode0> j_dulaney: you can speak, we are informal here until someone yells at you :) 01:16:53 <j_dulaney> Okay 01:17:03 * j_dulaney hasn't done a FAMNA meeting in a while 01:17:15 <rbergeron> and then you shut up like i do ;) 01:17:16 <j_dulaney> Anyway, I was wondering about sponsership 01:17:31 <inode0> for SELF? 01:17:32 <j_dulaney> nb says room share is fine with him 01:17:36 <j_dulaney> Indeed 01:17:45 * rbergeron notes that j_dulaney did a fine job last year and even provided event reports and such 01:17:53 <j_dulaney> Room share with nb and a ride from Fayetteville 01:17:56 <rbergeron> hey look, a suehle_ 01:17:58 <award3535_> sorry lost connection 01:18:02 <inode0> we just need a request will a bit of information on the wiki page for the event 01:18:08 <nb> #proposal fund room for j_dulaney 01:18:09 <j_dulaney> Greyhound goes from here to Charlotte 01:18:14 <rbergeron> +1 :) 01:18:16 <inode0> so we have a record of what people are getting sponsored to do 01:18:21 <award3535_> I will be driving 01:18:26 <nb> award3535_, were you planning on sharing a room? 01:18:29 <rbergeron> actually 01:18:29 <inode0> please don't vote yet 01:18:35 * rbergeron will -1 that until we see it on the wiki page 01:18:40 <award3535_> my wife will be traveling with me 01:18:42 <rbergeron> not because i'm cruel, but 01:19:05 <nb> award3535_, oh 01:19:14 <inode0> we are so failing at this sponsorship stuff 01:19:35 <inode0> no one else has anything really on the wiki 01:19:38 <award3535_> ? 01:19:55 <award3535_> I know my infomration is there 01:19:59 <inode0> we just discussed what people would be doing last week 01:20:02 <kk4ewt> i set the page up and i have the table what more do you want 01:20:12 * nb has himself in the wiki budget 01:20:20 <nb> and i didnt add myself to the chart but i added that i'd help whenever 01:20:23 <kk4ewt> i am on the budget 01:20:24 <inode0> I want to know I'm not paying $500 for someone to work 1 hour at the table 01:20:33 <inode0> for example 01:20:38 * nb guesses he needs to note taht he is doing the ham radio tests and stuff 01:20:38 <kk4ewt> i think you know better 01:20:46 <j_dulaney> Last year I spent a right fair bit of time manning the table 01:20:54 * nb plans to be at the table most of the time 01:21:00 <award3535_> I think I scheduled my self for most of the day both days 01:21:03 <kk4ewt> and we spent the majority of the nite burning media 01:21:08 <inode0> Red Hat wants to know and many there don't know better 01:21:16 <j_dulaney> Indeed 01:21:27 <kk4ewt> well they can read my reports afterward 01:21:48 * nb guesses he needs to make a dang blog 01:21:53 <nb> or i could email my reports 01:21:58 <kk4ewt> blog 01:21:59 <j_dulaney> Of course, I won't have to ride the greyhound if I can catch a ride with someone from Raleigh 01:22:26 <inode0> reports don't have to be on blogs, but requests for funding should follow the guidelines or we are making a mockery of the process 01:22:27 <award3535_> what else do we need to get accomplished prior to 01:22:35 <nb> j_dulaney, how much will greyhound be? 01:22:39 <inode0> are we rebelling against the sponsorship guidelines? 01:22:43 <nb> j_dulaney, and can you add yourself to wiki real quick 01:22:44 <inode0> or just being lazy? 01:22:57 <kk4ewt> or are you just being arse 01:23:06 <j_dulaney> Or, if someone from Raleigh could swing through here 01:23:11 <rbergeron> I think inode0 is trying to ensure that Red Hat continues to have an easy way to see how the money is being spent. 01:23:22 <rbergeron> In the event that I drop dead tomorrow. 01:23:25 <j_dulaney> nb: Looks like $26 one way 01:23:38 * nb will go add himself to the table................ I had just added myself above the table 01:23:41 <kk4ewt> so 60 01:23:59 * nb suggests j_dulaney add himself to the table before meating is over 01:24:02 <j_dulaney> This is all assuming I don't move to Seattle before then 01:24:04 * inode0 excuses himself for a bit, vote on stuff while he is away 01:24:13 * j_dulaney follows nb's advice 01:24:34 <award3535_> I know that I am on for six hours on saturday and two on sunday 01:24:36 <j_dulaney> I guess if I room with nb, then I would only have to add Greyhound rates? 01:24:46 <kk4ewt> yep 01:25:10 <nb> award3535_, we will probably need you on sunday a lot 01:25:16 <kk4ewt> inode0: what else do you want me to add to the wiki for myself and SGS 01:25:18 <nb> award3535_, ben and i are doing ham radio tests 10-1 01:25:21 <nb> award3535_, if possible 01:25:54 <award3535_> that works for me, any help I can provide 01:25:56 <kk4ewt> so we will SGS award3535_ and possible j_dulaney to do table on Sunday 01:26:05 <nb> oh yeah, i forgot about jamie 01:26:08 <kk4ewt> need 01:26:33 * j_dulaney needs to see about Greyhound scheduling 01:26:48 <kk4ewt> he will definitely need to do setup and teardown 01:26:49 <nb> j_dulaney, so yeah, add yourself and then let us know 01:26:54 <j_dulaney> Like I said, if I can catch a ride with someone from Raleigh, even that won't have to happen 01:26:55 <rbergeron> graphite6: do you want to show off the button proofs? :) 01:27:18 <graphite6> was just waiting for the other self stuff to get done :) 01:27:27 <graphite6> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/attachment/ticket/32/hotbutton_white.png 01:27:35 <j_dulaney> nb: how long are you staying? 01:27:45 <nb> j_dulaney, thurs fri sat 01:27:51 <nb> leaving sunday 01:27:52 <graphite6> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/attachment/ticket/32/hotbutton_green.png 01:28:05 <j_dulaney> So, you'll be at the hotel through Sat evening 01:28:12 <nb> i like the white one 01:28:25 <nb> j_dulaney, yeah, checkout sunday morning 01:28:28 <herlo> graphite6: I like the white one as well. Though a blue one might be cool. 01:28:48 <graphite6> The text around the button's circumference will be printed on the sides of the button, not on it's face. 01:28:59 <herlo> right, very nice 01:29:24 <kk4ewt> +1 hotbutton_White 01:29:29 <award3535_> green is better looking 01:29:33 <graphite6> Should we vote? 01:29:59 * inode0 suggests graphite6 take feedback and make her own decision based on that and what she thinks 01:30:32 <herlo> +1 inode0 01:30:33 * rbergeron takes a look, i just lost internets 01:30:41 <graphite6> ok, does any one have any feedback? 01:30:48 <inode0> the buttons look great to inode0 01:30:55 <j_dulaney> You know, I'll handle Greyhound if I can room with NB 01:31:01 <suehle_> I think the font's a little hard to read if you don't already know what it says 01:31:04 <rbergeron> oh! he's cute 01:31:05 <inode0> the white one has a bit of yellow? 01:31:28 <rbergeron> hi ruth! 01:31:32 <suehle_> hi! 01:31:33 <graphite6> suehle_ do you think bigger or thinner font? 01:31:43 <award3535_> +1 green 01:31:59 <graphite6> I was trying to copy ianweller's relish script from the desktop background 01:32:11 <ianweller> huh 01:32:39 <graphite6> inode0: yes, there is a glow around the hotdog, that is from the orginal graphic, I could take it out 01:33:15 <inode0> I think it is nice on the white background, can you see it on the green? 01:33:30 <herlo> that might not be a bad idea 01:33:43 <herlo> it's fun to play with this stuff. :) 01:34:03 <nb> inode0, ok, add yourself to the booth schedule thingy 01:34:06 <graphite6> on the green it lightens up the area around him a bit and dims the relish right beneath him a touch 01:34:36 <kk4ewt> inode0: and please add yourself as a speaker at SELF on the wiki as well 01:35:06 <graphite6> ianweller: we're the Beefy Miracle button mockups I made from your graphics 01:35:08 <herlo> kk4ewt: link plz 01:35:10 <award3535_> I just added myself for most of the day on Sunday... 01:35:16 <herlo> kk4ewt: I'm also speaking 01:35:34 <graphite6> any other feedback on the buttons? 01:35:46 <graphite6> I've also sent an email to the design list asking them for feedback 01:35:47 <award3535_> +1 green for me 01:35:57 <inode0> graphite6: you did a brilliant job, that is my feedback :) 01:36:03 <kk4ewt> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2012 01:36:08 <award3535_> I agree 01:36:10 * j_dulaney must be a moron, but cannot find the schedule on SELF's page so he can figure out when to be at the booth 01:36:33 <graphite6> I'll take feedback for the next 24 hours then I'm going to finalize the proof, get final approval from y'all and order them by thursday 01:36:33 <rbergeron> j_dulaney: they probably don't have it posted yet 01:36:42 <graphite6> inode0: thanks :) 01:36:48 <kk4ewt> rbergeron: yes it is 01:36:58 <j_dulaney> Anyway, I don't want to promise to be at the booth at a certain time and then not be there 01:37:02 <kk4ewt> j_dulaney: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2012#Booth 01:37:04 <inode0> there is a preliminary schedule on the news page 01:37:06 <suehle_> http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/news/self-2012-preliminary-schedule 01:37:19 <inode0> :) 01:37:23 <j_dulaney> suehle_ Thanks 01:37:33 <inode0> teamwork! 01:38:15 <graphite6> suehle_ do you think bigger or thinner font? 01:39:01 <graphite6> I'll take feedback for the next 24 hours then I'm going to finalize the proof, get final approval from y'all and order them by thursday 01:39:16 <graphite6> Any objections to this time line? 01:39:25 <award3535_> nope 01:39:35 <inode0> you have approval from us 01:40:00 <inode0> I think we'll probably mention Beefy Miracle enough people will recognize it 01:40:29 <herlo> graphite6: I +1 inode0 01:40:32 <inode0> I think the sideways writing is always harder though 01:40:35 <herlo> do eeet! :) 01:40:39 <nb> inode0, pm 01:40:47 <graphite6> herlo: lol 01:40:52 <graphite6> ok 01:40:58 <inode0> did you think about Beefy on top and Miracle on the bottom with relish on the sides? 01:41:51 <graphite6> inode0: I could try it, it may look a little unbalanced though because then there is nothing on the width of the button 01:41:59 <graphite6> Beefy is long and tall :) 01:42:42 <award3535_> seems like lots of folks are loosing connections 01:42:49 <inode0> dancing on the relish is good 01:43:10 * graphite6 loves relish 01:43:31 <inode0> maybe beefy miracle in a smaller font but with the words together? 01:43:57 * inode0 isn't a designer 01:44:25 <rbergeron> inode0: what details do we need to take care of WRT the food drive? 01:44:38 <inode0> kick up some relish behind him near where beefy is now? 01:44:54 * rbergeron would like to make sure we have delivery of a barrel (or pick up of a barrel, if i need to rent a truck or something) squared away, know when we can pick that up and deliver it to the site, etc. 01:44:58 <graphite6> inode0: I was thinking of slimming the text and separating the letters a bit, that may make it more readable 01:45:16 <graphite6> and I'll sprinkle some more relish :) 01:45:31 * rbergeron doesn't mean to interrupt sarah but thought she was moving to feedback mode but feel free to continue 01:45:34 <j_dulaney> Okay, I'm signed up for the booth 01:45:43 <kk4ewt> ok we really need to stick to one topic at a time please 01:45:47 <inode0> about the food drive we need to know if we can have room around the booth for a 2' wide, 4' tall drop off barrel?! 01:46:14 <graphite6> rbergeron: we can move on, I think I know what needs adjusting :) 01:46:19 <rbergeron> inode0: yes, that is confirmed. 01:46:29 <inode0> ok, I hadn't heard 01:46:39 <rbergeron> i piped in with that earlier tonight :) it's all good 01:46:45 <kk4ewt> #info space for barrelconfirmed 01:46:46 <inode0> I can make arrangements then to get that delivered to us onsite on Friday I think 01:47:11 <inode0> We'll get some literature about the food pantry too 01:47:13 <rbergeron> and then we need to just start winding up the food drive news machine, I think. 01:47:18 <rbergeron> inode0: ooh, good call. 01:47:20 <kk4ewt> and who is picking up the food and when 01:47:38 <rsuehle__> GTswagger had said there would be an email to attendees, which I haven't seen yet, so maybe we could get a line in there about it. 01:47:44 <rbergeron> I think between @beefymiracle and @fedora and @selinuxfest and some blog posts/mails, we can get some good word out. 01:47:46 <inode0> I have a contact who is willing to pick up the food/donations at the site on Sunday 01:48:04 <rbergeron> inode0: and barrel, i presume? 01:48:10 <inode0> yes 01:48:21 <kk4ewt> ok why a barrel? 01:48:52 <inode0> they offered to give us a drop off thing for people to put the food in, it is branded for their organization 01:49:00 <inode0> we can take it or leave it as we wish 01:49:08 * graphite6 wants to get in the barrel and pop out like a miracle :D 01:49:20 <inode0> I don't know if it is a barrel exactly 01:49:27 <kk4ewt> inode0: i like the sound of that 01:50:21 <rbergeron> suehle_: can we see about getting on the schedule for PR for a news blog? :) 01:50:33 <suehle_> rbergeron: indeedy 01:50:42 <rbergeron> or do we want to skip that if we can't get anyone internally to pony up some matching cashola 01:50:51 <rbergeron> i think either way it's helpful 01:50:56 <rbergeron> having some news-y tihngs 01:50:58 <suehle_> we can inquire and see what they say... I'm still hoping for matching 01:51:06 <suehle_> and even if not, it's still a good deed 01:51:16 <rbergeron> #action suehle_ to pursue getting some red hat news piece and possibly matching monies 01:51:19 <rbergeron> suehle_: yes! 01:51:24 <suehle_> they may be more inclined to speak afterwards... "Fedora got a bajillionty seven cans for the food bank!" 01:51:37 <rbergeron> "and all i did was write this news piece!" 01:51:40 <suehle_> * nearly actual expected numbers 01:51:48 * j_dulaney lols 01:51:55 <inode0> 500 pounds of Beanie Weenies is the goal 01:52:13 <rbergeron> you know that beanie weenies are nutritious 01:52:19 <inode0> there are some contribution rules 01:52:29 <rbergeron> inode00: oh, from the food bank? 01:52:48 <inode0> yeah, I recall "no glass" and there are some high need items 01:52:52 * rbergeron nods 01:52:57 <suehle_> normal food bank requests 01:53:04 <inode0> canned meat being one of them 01:53:10 <rbergeron> oh! well. 01:53:14 <award3535_> non perishables I presume 01:53:26 <inode0> I'll pass that on when I have time to dig it up 01:53:29 <rbergeron> I think that's up our alley. :) 01:53:37 <rbergeron> inode0: thanks for doing the connections there :) 01:53:43 <suehle_> F18: Vienna Sausage Miracle 01:54:19 <rbergeron> F19: Cylindrical Can 01:54:28 <inode0> Ok, anything more on SELF this week? 01:54:36 <suehle_> F20: Better Batter (haven't tried it? Google that up) 01:54:40 <rbergeron> I think that's it. Though.... we only have a few weeks left. 01:54:40 <suehle_> Sorry! Batter Blaster. Killed my own humor. 01:55:04 <inode0> #topic Open Floor 01:55:10 <nb> SWAG? 01:55:12 <inode0> 5 minutes for mayhem 01:55:18 <inode0> good topic 01:55:19 <nb> SWAG SWAG SWAG! 01:55:25 <nb> #topic swag 01:55:31 <rbergeron> nb: you sound like my kids when i come home from a conference :( 01:55:36 <nb> Case badges should arrive RSN 01:55:38 <nb> rbergeron, lol 01:55:43 <nb> rbergeron, i'm just a little crazy tonight 01:55:52 <rbergeron> stickers are supposed to get here on the 21st. 01:55:55 * kk4ewt makes the motion to support j_dulaney bus ticket for $60 01:55:58 <rbergeron> and by here i mean, not here 01:56:04 * nb thought j_dulaney was not asking for bus ticket anymore? 01:56:07 <dan408> im here now :/ 01:56:08 * nb is confused 01:56:16 <nb> and did we have a motion to allow him to share room? 01:56:18 <j_dulaney> nb: I was confused 01:56:33 <nb> also, if award is not sharing a room, i think usually we ask them to pay 1/2? 01:56:38 <kk4ewt> nb i dont see where the room changes the budget 01:56:39 <nb> not sharing a room with a fedora-person i mean 01:56:42 <nb> kk4ewt, it doesn't 01:56:45 <inode0> j_dulaney: if you are helping we can certainly help with that 01:56:52 <kk4ewt> nb no 01:56:58 <kk4ewt> family 01:57:16 * j_dulaney worked the booth last year, and stayed late burning media 01:57:30 <nb> kk4ewt, oh, i asked inode0 and he said he thought we'd ask him to pay half 01:57:40 <nb> since his family is not fedora people? 01:57:40 <kk4ewt> inode0: j_dulaney probable knows f17 better than all of us combined 01:57:47 <nb> but /me is confused 01:57:49 <graphite6> The invoice for the pens was paid on 5/14/2012. Gary Austin Advertising said the pens would be processed in approx. 3 days and then shipped out to the address on the invoice. 01:58:02 * nb is in favor of bus tickvet for j_dulaney 01:58:10 <j_dulaney> nb: I was hoping to get a ride from someone going from Raleigh 01:58:10 <inode0> historically we haven't asked Fedora to pay for spouses, that is all I know 01:58:18 <nb> inode0, that's kinda what i thought 01:58:29 <nb> award3535_, ping 01:58:33 <award3535_> I am willing to pay half 01:58:51 <kk4ewt> inode0: if it stops i guess i better make arrangements to ship boxes from now on 01:59:03 <j_dulaney> Whoever sets up bus ticket purchase please ping me prior 01:59:11 <nb> kk4ewt, if what stops? 01:59:27 <kk4ewt> nb supporting families 01:59:35 <inode0> if your spouse is helping it is different 01:59:38 <dan408> your family fits in a box? 01:59:39 <nb> kk4ewt, your family generally helps with stuff too? 02:00:02 <kk4ewt> before SGS became a ambassador we all stayed in a room 02:00:13 <j_dulaney> dan408: Neither SGS nor his GF would fit in a box very well 02:00:19 <kk4ewt> my wife has been known to work the table from time to time 02:00:26 <nb> kk4ewt, i know.......... 02:00:33 <kk4ewt> thats not the point 02:00:45 <inode0> kk4ewt: your situation has been an exception to the rule 02:00:53 <dan408> j_dulaney: that's too bad. 02:01:15 <kk4ewt> we are paying for the room and his wife comes i do not see the requirement for him to pay half 02:01:21 <inode0> and when I say rule I mean our ordinary custom 02:01:40 <inode0> we normally pay for rooms for 2 fedora people to share 02:01:44 <nb> because otherwise someone else that wants to help with the booth or speak or something could share the room with him? 02:02:22 <inode0> otherwise everyone would always get a single room 02:02:42 <kk4ewt> ok whatever laters 02:02:57 <inode0> we get twice the bang for our fedora buck by asking people getting support to help us support others too 02:03:11 <inode0> we have done that as long as I can remember 02:03:23 <rbergeron> yup. 02:03:23 <nb> idk, lets just f****** do something 02:03:25 * j_dulaney has always room shared and has had no problem with it 02:03:27 * nb is tired of all the drama this week 02:03:32 * rbergeron hugs nb 02:03:39 <nb> #proposal award3535_ pay half of his room 02:03:42 <nb> +1 02:03:53 <j_dulaney> There's drama around me in the _real world_ 02:03:54 <nb> since he already agreed, /me doesn't think there is an issue 02:04:00 <inode0> he already offered to so I don't see why there is drama 02:04:15 <dan408> good thing i dont have a wife 02:04:17 <award3535_> I agree, i already agreed 02:04:29 <rbergeron> okay! let's agree to move on :) 02:04:39 <nb> #agreed award3535_ will pay half of his room 02:04:44 <nb> #topic open floor 02:05:13 * j_dulaney asks if we can vote on my Greyhound ticket and roomshare with nb 02:05:23 <j_dulaney> So I feel better about it 02:05:27 <rbergeron> :) 02:05:27 <inode0> +1 02:05:32 <nb> #proposal do as j_dulaney asks (greyhound ticket and roomshare) 02:05:33 <nb> +1 02:05:34 * rbergeron +1s that 02:05:39 <graphite6> +1 02:05:58 * j_dulaney abstains for obvious reasons 02:06:06 * nb will not be around much after tonight until sometime saturday or sunday 02:06:10 <inode0> don't break our traditions! 02:06:19 <j_dulaney> ? 02:06:23 <nb> inode0, traditions of what? lol 02:06:38 * nb is so happy to get away from work and drama and stuff for a weekend :) 02:06:47 <j_dulaney> LOL 02:06:55 <inode0> #agreed bus and hotel at SELF for j_dulaney 02:06:58 <rbergeron> graphite6: i saw you're going to a few events and started event pages, I was thining it might be cool to do a postcard or flyer with info about AS7 in Fedora since those are java-focused conferences. 02:07:01 <j_dulaney> Yay! 02:07:04 <rbergeron> just food for thought :) 02:07:29 <graphite6> rbergeron: yes 02:07:33 * j_dulaney wonders who to talk to to set up tickets 02:07:41 <rbergeron> even if they are just "leave a stack of flyers on a table" or ... i don't know if jboss is having a booth there or what 02:07:53 <inode0> can you buy it and get reimbursed? 02:08:04 <j_dulaney> I have no credit card 02:08:14 <inode0> that wasn't my question 02:08:28 <graphite6> rbergeron: I don't know yet if Jboss has a booth at Jax (there's drama there spilling over from Europe) 02:08:33 <inode0> or is that required now? 02:08:40 <j_dulaney> I thought reimbursements required a card? Anyway, I don't know if I'll have the $$ 02:08:51 <inode0> they require a receipt 02:08:57 <j_dulaney> Ah 02:09:06 <graphite6> rbergeron: Uberconf is a no booth event, but I can take materials to but in the entrance packets possibly 02:09:27 <j_dulaney> Well, if I don't have money for it to begin with, then reimbursement is moot 02:09:32 <rbergeron> graphite6: ahhh. okay, we can maybe tackle that next week, you can put tickets in the FAMNA trac and add the meeting keyword 02:09:55 <graphite6> rbergeron: I also want to talk to talk about the new Cloud track at Linux NA 02:09:56 <award3535_> good night folks, see you next week 02:10:00 <rbergeron> or if you have ideas for flyers we can just do it :) 02:10:03 <nb> shall we endmeeting? 02:10:08 * j_dulaney needs to remember to drop a ticket on famna for more swag 02:10:11 <rbergeron> graphite6: linuxcon na? yeah 02:10:15 <nb> and move this talk to #fedora-ambassadors? 02:10:16 <rbergeron> cloudopen 02:10:18 <rbergeron> sure 02:10:19 <graphite6> rbergeron: yup 02:10:32 <nb> #endmeeting