04:00:10 #startmeeting 04:00:10 Meeting started Sat May 5 04:00:10 2012 UTC. The chair is tuanta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:00:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:00:22 #meetingname apac 04:00:22 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 04:00:29 #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:00:52 :) 04:00:56 .fas dramsey 04:00:58 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:01:03 #chair dramsey bckurera harish maktrix 04:01:03 Current chairs: bckurera dramsey harish maktrix tuanta 04:01:06 .fas tuanta 04:01:07 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:01:21 .fas mahayalamkhan@gmail.com 04:01:22 maktrix: mak 'Mahay Alam Khan' 04:01:23 * FranciscoD is here 04:01:24 .fas bckurera 04:01:26 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 04:01:28 #chair FranciscoD 04:01:28 Current chairs: FranciscoD bckurera dramsey harish maktrix tuanta 04:01:30 :) 04:01:33 Hello ! :D 04:01:35 .fas harishpillay 04:01:36 harish: harishpillay 'Harish Pillay' 04:01:37 #chair FranciscoD 04:01:37 Current chairs: FranciscoD bckurera dramsey harish maktrix tuanta 04:01:38 :) 04:01:42 :D 04:02:30 Let us move "forward" and "fast" on our meeting and meet our "meeting" objectives" We can do it! 04:02:38 aye 04:02:42 yay! 04:03:11 .fas MavJS 04:03:11 MavJS: mavjs 'Ye Myat Kaung' 04:03:14 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-05-05#Agenda 04:03:19 #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting 04:03:19 #chair MavJs 04:03:19 Current chairs: FranciscoD MavJs bckurera dramsey harish maktrix tuanta 04:03:32 #chair kaio_ph 04:03:32 Current chairs: FranciscoD MavJs bckurera dramsey harish kaio_ph maktrix tuanta 04:03:35 Hi 04:03:37 .fas me@kaio 04:03:38 kaio_ph: kaio 'Caius Chance (かいお)' 04:03:39 #chair MavJS 04:03:39 Current chairs: FranciscoD MavJS MavJs bckurera dramsey harish kaio_ph maktrix tuanta 04:03:40 :D 04:03:45 To 04:03:47 Yo 04:03:48 * liznevada is witnessing her first meeting... 04:04:02 Hi liznevada 04:04:17 #chair kaio_ph 04:04:17 Current chairs: FranciscoD MavJS MavJs bckurera dramsey harish kaio_ph maktrix tuanta 04:04:18 hi 04:04:18 Welcome 04:04:25 Next topic Tuan? 04:04:28 should i take a chair? 04:04:32 Welcme 04:04:38 s/me/ome 04:05:19 #chair liznevada 04:05:19 Current chairs: FranciscoD MavJS MavJs bckurera dramsey harish kaio_ph liznevada maktrix tuanta 04:05:30 so, we have got 6 action items pending 04:05:31 I prefer some battery juice than chair. 04:05:32 #chair maktrix 04:05:32 Current chairs: FranciscoD MavJS MavJs bckurera dramsey harish kaio_ph liznevada maktrix tuanta 04:05:37 31% 04:05:44 :) 04:05:45 my one #3 has been done. 04:05:50 Move forward Tuan - tuanta 04:05:59 I will get it discussed later 04:06:03 in this meeting 04:06:04 liznevada can you please introduce yourself? 04:06:09 my 6 has been done. 04:06:12 #chair bckurera 04:06:12 Current chairs: FranciscoD MavJS MavJs bckurera dramsey harish kaio_ph liznevada maktrix tuanta 04:06:15 how about others? 04:06:23 im a member of transifex , spanish team 04:06:26 * FranciscoD is helping inode0 with the elections, so survey has been pushed back a little 04:06:42 #info FranciscoD is helping inode0 with the elections, so survey has been pushed back a little 04:06:55 ! 04:07:01 liznevada thanks, member of FAm or waiting for an approval? 04:07:10 * harish i am doing a migration from a SCO openserver on a physical machine to a SCO openserver running in a KVM VM running on a RHEL6.2 machine for a friend so I will be observing 04:07:20 :) 04:07:31 #info Email has been sent out to all attendees to check status of FUDCon KL tickets, so 5 is also done ;) 04:07:47 MavJS: go, no one's speaking :) 04:07:48 dunno, all i know i have full access to fedora spanish translation on transifex 04:07:54 so is #6 :D 04:07:56 yes, MavJS 04:08:06 folks, lets get back to protocol: 04:08:13 !? for a chance, EOF when done 04:08:17 eof 04:08:19 tuanta: you leading? 04:08:52 * FranciscoD will proceed then 04:08:58 cool, harish :) 04:09:10 anyone else have any other status updates about action items? Otherwise we move to next topic 04:09:17 * FranciscoD waits 15 seconds 04:09:23 and bckurera, how about your pending action items? 04:09:35 FranciscoD, yes 04:09:36 thanks tuanta 04:09:57 ohh sorry FranciscoD, i ll go after you 04:10:15 bckurera: I'm done reporting. Do you have any updates about #1? 04:10:28 'bckurera to work on video to elaborate the importance of apac-trac' ? 04:10:37 yes 04:10:45 go on then :) 04:11:04 I ll do it and will be presented at the FUDcon 04:11:09 that is the plan 04:11:36 I have ping all the required people about moving the tracs 04:11:40 and how about the #4? 04:11:51 with in this week it will be made read-only 04:11:53 that's cool 04:11:53 #info bckurera will complete video and present at FUDCon KL 04:11:59 +1 04:12:00 one week period has passed now 04:12:11 #info fedora-india trac will be made read only within this week 04:12:14 great 04:12:17 ok, so we all well done!!! :) 04:12:28 next topic 04:12:32 #topic APAC for FAmSCO (dramsey for you!) 04:12:35 FranciscoD I hope you have noticed the mails in India list which i have sent 04:12:43 bckurera: yes, I have. 04:12:45 dramsey, you lead tthis 04:12:50 :) 04:12:54 at the moment only one active ticket is there 04:12:55 eof 04:13:25 #info fedora-india only has one active ticket at the moment 04:13:30 +1 04:13:36 ping dramsey :) 04:13:38 All that I say is one word -- 04:13:41 "Vote" 04:13:50 ! 04:13:50 May be again --> Vote 04:13:52 eof 04:13:56 +1 dramsey 04:13:58 :) 04:14:11 FranciscoD: go 04:14:11 +1 04:14:13 and Nomination as well. 04:14:24 I'd like to remind you folks: The questionnaire is open till May 8 04:14:35 #info The election questionnaire is open till May 8 04:14:35 yes, FranciscoD 04:14:37 +1 FranciscoD 04:14:48 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_elections_questionnaire 04:14:58 +1 Tuan - tuanta 04:15:01 It is important that we have a good set of questions to enable folks to vote for the right candidates 04:15:06 ! 04:15:09 #info It is important that we have a good set of questions to enable folks to vote for the right candidates 04:15:12 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_elections_questionnaire 04:15:29 Remember, if you don't vote, it is your fault 04:15:39 ? 04:15:40 +1 04:15:50 I added a question to FAmSCo, you should do so all 04:15:51 If a candidate gets elected, and does not live up to the expectations, it is the voters responsibility 04:16:00 just like the release names ;) 04:16:15 +1 Fra 04:16:19 I'd also request folks to go over the planet 04:16:23 recent posts, archives 04:16:26 +1 FranciscoD 04:16:32 You must know your ambassador to be able to vote for him 04:16:41 PLEASE DO NOT VOTE BLINDLY 04:16:48 :) 04:16:49 +1 FranciscoD 04:16:55 we really need to imporve the importance of elections. 04:17:06 +1 FranciscoD, wants to open my ears to bckurera... 04:17:16 I really will not want these elections to end up in controversy like the release names 04:17:18 #link http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=_BRv9wGf5pk 04:17:18 eof 04:17:21 bckurera: go 04:17:25 should we post questions to the wiki or email to you FranciscoD ? 04:17:32 Great question 04:17:36 I will nominate again 04:17:38 #info all questions to be put on the wiki page 04:17:46 I shall 'wrangle' them after the deadline 04:17:57 thank you for asking that one bckurera :) 04:18:06 thanks 04:18:06 +1 :) 04:18:18 move next now? 04:18:22 +1 04:18:25 move++ 04:18:28 +1 04:18:29 #topic Things need to be discussed face to face in FUDCon KL 04:18:33 +1 Tuan - tuanta Move forwards 04:18:46 I reorganized the wiki page 04:18:58 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/BoF_discussion#Discussion_Ideas 04:19:30 I grouped up some items and suggest some others to be removed 04:19:36 but I am not sure. 04:19:48 then I made to that line 04:19:50 thats great :) 04:19:52 ? 04:19:59 +1 Tuan - tuanta, right on! 8-) We need to show our strongest APAC Team support to help promote the FUDCon APAC 2012. 04:20:12 please see the page now and suggest more things 04:20:21 +1 dramsey 04:20:28 yes, FranciscoD, please 04:20:28 +1 dramsey 04:20:34 We have limited time 04:20:43 yes, 04:20:47 +1 Ankur - FranciscoD 04:20:47 I don't know if all the topics listed there will be discussed 04:21:05 then I reorganized all issues to 2 groups 04:21:10 We'll eventually have to prioritize and discuss the most important issues 04:21:13 eof 04:21:19 we can take two sections in FUDCon 04:21:27 ! 04:21:34 I believe that the organizers will give us 04:21:41 bckurera, please 04:21:48 * FranciscoD thinks we can discuss all of this during meals etc also 04:21:49 how about prioritizing the importance of question? 04:21:52 eof 04:21:59 +1 04:22:21 ! 04:22:28 maktrix, please 04:22:37 discussing during the meals is not a good idea 04:22:45 +1 04:22:47 we must have a dedicated session / time for this 04:22:51 eof 04:22:54 +1 maktrix 04:23:01 ! 04:23:03 +1 maktrix 04:23:04 :D 04:23:05 tuanta: go 04:23:34 I do not think prioritizing is good ideas 04:23:38 since 04:23:44 * FranciscoD reminds folks to keep their text written and ready to save time 04:24:00 in my thoughts, we have two big issues to solve 04:24:09 +1 FranciscoD ==> Power to the people. ;) 04:24:11 first is How to improve APAC ambassadors meeting quality (tuanta) 04:24:21 and the second is How to improve the quality of community activities and contributions in APAC 04:24:35 ! 04:24:37 boht have details 04:24:38 +1 Tuan - tuanta :D 04:24:41 ! 04:24:54 1/2/3... are just details 04:25:03 eof 04:25:03 FranciscoD, please 04:25:06 Well, we'll have to start on some topic, so a priority is inherent :) 04:25:09 then, bckurera 04:25:31 The only way I see us improving meetings is be holding regular meetings and *strictly* adhering to protocol 04:25:41 I don't think talking about it is going to do anything really. 04:25:50 +1 FranciscoD 04:25:54 +1 04:26:01 There are good practices that we need to follow. Discussing this isnt going to bring changes IMO 04:26:04 eof 04:26:17 We have lot to discuss, and these things can take longer time I suppose therefore if we take some important questions first that will help. Just an idea 04:26:36 I think we need more participation for meetings 04:26:37 bckurera: ++ (basically the same thing as prioritizing) 04:26:52 +1 :p 04:26:57 that is one thing we need to make sure ! 04:26:59 eof 04:27:21 * FranciscoD notes: question for questionnaire and the survey: "How many of your regional ambassador meetings do you attend?" 04:27:22 FranciscoD: I think we have a lot of things to improve the quality of meetings, we should go discussing f2f in KL! 04:27:24 ! 04:27:29 :D 04:27:36 FranciscoD, please 04:27:46 tuanta: can you please state these things in detail? 04:28:04 I'd like to go over them and see if f2f at KL makes sense for them ;) 04:28:05 eof 04:28:06 yes, I wrote them on the wiki 04:28:23 1-6 are suggested details 04:28:31 tuanta: with all due respect, I don't see how talking about them will make a change 04:28:39 They are guidelines that need to be *practiced* 04:28:52 discussing them doesn't directly imply implementation. 04:29:04 FranciscoD: I hope we will have solutions after that section 04:29:22 * FranciscoD feels we already know what must be done to have better meetings 04:29:22 those all are suggestions 04:29:35 sure, FranciscoD 04:29:42 tuanta: can I state what I think must be done? And you folks can decide if they need discussion or not? 04:29:45 we should discuss them all before 04:30:16 1. Quorum: We need to encourage Ambassadors to join the meetings. This will be done over a period of time. We are already seeing an increase in attendance 04:30:26 2. Protocl needs to be adhered to: 04:30:39 a. Wait your turn: Use ?! to request your turn 04:30:49 b. Each meeting will have a leader who gives folks turns. 04:31:08 b.i This person needs to be extra attentive, to ensure no time is wasted in giving turns 04:31:27 c. Don't start typing after you get your turn. Keep the text ready 04:31:43 d.i All tickets that need to be discussed need to be marked 'meeting' on the track 04:32:07 d.ii If the ticket filer is not present, the ticket will be given less priority. 04:32:19 e. Dont forget to EOF as soon as you're done ;) 04:32:20 EOF 04:32:24 great. that's things should added onto the wiki. 04:32:38 +1 FranciscoD 04:32:40 8-) Cool man!!! 8-) +1 04:32:44 tuanta: these are things we put out in every meeting. Its just about folks starting to use them. 04:32:56 ! 04:32:59 maktrix: go 04:33:01 IMHO the rules are a bit overkill. 04:33:02 Ones attendance will be considered during his/her request of budget for event 04:33:24 eof 04:33:40 * FranciscoD notes that these are guidelines. We have no rules. 04:33:48 kaio_ph: I'd still like you to clarify what you feel is overkill 04:33:50 ;) 04:34:19 so, everyone, please add more details to the wiki before we go to KL 04:34:26 +1 04:34:28 my topic done 04:34:32 * FranciscoD waits for kaio_ph 04:34:57 2 a c e 04:34:59 * FranciscoD suggests folks attend meeting such as famsco and the board and see how they do it 04:35:10 kaio_ph: I'm sorry. I disagree 04:35:23 #action all add more details to the f2f meeting wiki https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/BoF_discussion#Discussion_Ideas before we go to KL 04:35:25 They are the most important IMO. To maintain structure during the meeting 04:35:31 Using too many symbols are quite user unfriendly. 04:35:55 they are one/three character, I don't see how they are user unfriendly? 04:36:20 my topic done. next now? 04:36:23 when too many people talk simultanously during a meeting, the following happens: 04:36:25 FAmSCo won't use : ?! to proceed discussions. 04:36:28 :D 04:36:29 1. no one understands what happens 04:36:39 kaio_ph: famsco has 4 people in attendance on an average 04:36:49 tuanta: 2 more minutes, time me :P 04:36:56 yes, please :) 04:37:08 2. the logs get difficult to read for folks who miss the meeting 04:37:20 3. tags such as info are difficult to use 04:37:33 Eof is okay, but symbols are too abstract and confuse people with the original way of usage. 04:37:33 4. multiple things getting discussed together => none of them discussed properly 04:37:44 kaio_ph: you mean ! and ? 04:37:54 for 'raise your hand' and 'ask a question'? 04:38:08 we can change it to o/ 04:38:15 : ! ? 04:38:17 if that is more 'raise your hand' 04:38:24 ? 04:39:02 How about this: 04:39:15 I'll make a wiki page for protocols, and request folks on the list to have a look 04:39:19 I am personally predict people won't follow the rules for long, as the rules are not natural. 04:39:31 kaio_ph: exactly, it is our business to make them natural 04:39:37 natural/second nature 04:39:41 the irc is not the same as f2f 04:39:48 you cant have the same method of dicsussion 04:39:49 ! 04:39:52 eof 04:39:54 bckurera: go 04:40:00 I think adhering to the guideline is good and proper ! 04:40:09 but they should be simple not much 04:40:09 Anything needs to memorise are not helping. Anyways, I am expressing my concern. I don't mind if you want to try that. 04:40:22 #action FranciscoD put all guidelines on wiki and request mailing lists to go look 04:40:36 will try to keep it as a habit, then all use to do it and finally we have nice log which is easy to read 04:40:41 ! 04:40:58 ! ? eof would be enough and simple, IMO 04:41:00 eof 04:41:03 kaio_ph: ! ? EOF -> 5 characters, not a lot of RAM needed. If you use them for a single meeting, you understand and use them forever. No memory needed IMO. 04:41:09 FranciscoD, go 04:41:24 tuanta: sorry, fingers too quick :P 04:41:39 ? :) 04:41:44 anyway, I'll put them on the wiki and stuff, eof 04:41:45 dramsey: go 04:42:32 ! 04:42:32 Hello Everyone, I hope that we all vote and I was wondering if Kaio - kaio_ph and Gerard - gbraad were running for FAmSCo? eof 04:42:34 :) 04:43:09 dramsey: eof? 04:43:23 +1 eof 04:43:26 sorry 04:43:29 * FranciscoD notes the 45 seconds dramsey wasted :P 04:43:31 bckurera: go 04:43:35 bckurera, go ahead 04:43:47 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol 04:43:53 link++ 04:44:00 you can use these info as well 04:44:01 eof 04:44:16 ! 04:44:18 FranciscoD: go 04:44:25 ok, we should move on 04:44:30 bckurera: I think its the same info that i laid out? 04:44:31 move on ++ 04:44:32 eof 04:44:33 this could be back in Open Floor 04:44:46 #topic APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey) 04:45:15 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events 04:45:23 for F17 Release Events 04:45:33 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY13_Q1_.28March_2012_-_May_2012.29_4 04:45:40 for Fedora Events 04:45:44 eof from dramsey 04:45:45 :) 04:46:13 ! 04:46:16 ? 04:46:19 bckurera: go 04:46:31 bckurera then FranciscoD :) 04:46:38 #info If anyone needs design team help for events please ping me, ready to help ! 04:46:41 eof 04:46:48 FranciscoD: go 04:46:59 dramsey: is this still valid? Harish says, "I have some F16 LiveCDs left. Do mention that during the meeting.? 04:46:59 +1 bckurera 04:47:09 or is it something we've forgotten to remove from the agenda? 04:47:09 eof 04:47:22 ? 04:47:27 ! 04:47:39 dramsey: go 04:47:41 dramsey then bckurera: go 04:47:45 I think so on F16 media 04:47:46 eof 04:47:51 I think it is better to keep the line "I have some F16 LiveCDs left. Do mention that during the meeting.?" 04:48:05 It reminds we have some unused media F16 :) 04:48:06 eof 04:48:38 * FranciscoD just wanted to confirm if harish has them or not: would be lame if his stock was already over :P 04:48:39 ! 04:48:44 tuanta: go 04:49:26 so, we should update all upcoming F17 release parties onto wiki 04:49:40 #action all we should update all upcoming F17 release parties onto wiki 04:49:57 eof 04:49:59 then next topic? 04:50:25 aye 04:50:37 +1 04:50:39 #topic Review APAC trac tickets 04:50:49 +1 next toic 04:50:52 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9 04:50:53 s/ic/pic 04:51:02 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9 04:51:19 have we got a new command for apac-trac? 04:51:20 There is one ticket 04:51:32 somthing like .apacticket 04:51:47 need to work around I guess 04:52:04 I ll work on this and find out 04:52:20 ! 04:52:26 ! makes me think of Metal Gear. 04:52:31 FranciscoD: go 04:52:32 o/ 04:52:36 #action find out about commands for fedora-apac, something like .apacticket 04:52:59 I think this event should be sponsored. We already know bckurera to be a regular contributor. 40USD is not much. 04:53:04 ! 04:53:12 ! 04:53:19 Can we vote for approving the ticket once inode0 is done please? :) 04:53:20 eof 04:53:21 inode0: g 04:53:23 inode0: go 04:53:45 Please someone talk to me after the meeting and I can explain how to make .apacticket 04:53:49 eof 04:53:59 I ll do it inode0 04:54:01 thanks 04:54:10 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/25 04:54:16 I need to note something here 04:54:34 * FranciscoD clarifies that #25 is what he meant by "this event" in the earlier statement 04:54:35 the event took place, and I got the request in 3 days before the event happen 04:54:36 #action bckurera talk to inode0 after the meeting to get explained how to make .apacticket 04:54:53 :O 04:54:54 ? 04:54:59 then now, go voting for #25 04:55:06 FranciscoD: go 04:55:07 Then I made a decision because I could nt wait till I get the approval. 04:55:15 tuanta: he says event already done. 04:55:17 I think this will be approved. 04:55:22 see the event report as well 04:55:23 thanks 04:55:26 bckurera: was this ticket filed before the event? 04:55:32 yes 04:55:36 yes, I see. I think we can vote either 04:55:39 and was it discussed? 04:55:43 (before the event) 04:55:44 ? 04:55:56 bckurera: ^ 04:56:02 This is the time to discuss it. 04:56:13 sometimes, people can not wait till their ticket approved, they can go ahead. I think. 04:56:29 those tickets also should be voted. 04:56:34 Yes. But it is suggested that the ticket be filed, and discussed *before* the event takes place 04:56:47 We have a fixed budget, so if we run out, you won't get reimbursed 04:56:56 then the event will go out of your own pocket. 04:57:10 Please file the tickets and get them approved before the event takes place. 04:57:12 ! 04:57:12 eof 04:57:15 FranciscoD there are some instances you need take a decision because if you wait till the ticket get approved you will loose the evet 04:57:15 tuanta: go 04:57:25 bckurera: then you need to file the ticket well enough in advanced 04:57:31 It is the event owners responsibility 04:57:46 (We've been holding weekly meetings) 04:57:49 FranciscoD: that is a cool suggestion. but sometimes people can get that risk, no problem 04:57:50 eof 04:57:52 so in some urgent situations FAm can take a decision, but there is a limit. 04:58:09 * FranciscoD just reminds: if the budget is over, you wont get your money 04:58:15 understood, bckurera :) 04:58:20 ok, go voting now? 04:58:29 the idea of preapporval is to check these things: budget, owner, preparation etc 04:58:35 yes, vote please 04:58:39 Yes there is a risk, I take it because the event is worth :) 04:58:41 +1 from me 04:58:50 I vote +1 04:58:58 dramsey: maktrix MavJS ping 04:59:04 +1 :) 04:59:05 kaio_ph: ping 04:59:06 +1 04:59:07 :D 04:59:12 +1 (don't make it a practice, discuss prior to the event) 04:59:13 +1 bckurera. it sometimes happens 04:59:19 O:-):P:-D:) 04:59:29 Pong 04:59:30 thanks folks :) 04:59:41 kaio_ph: need your vote on this ticket please 04:59:41 ? 04:59:53 #agreed apac ticket #25 05:00:00 Rolling back logs 05:00:08 ! 05:00:14 dramsey: go 05:00:15 I am so fast :) 05:00:16 We are APAC! with the 300 soundtrack in the backround Hear us roar! :D eof 05:00:18 :D 05:00:25 bckurera: go 05:00:40 * FranciscoD thinks dramsey is high on coffee or something 05:00:45 I think it is good to use 'approval' instead 'voting' 05:01:03 +1 bckurera. it's better 05:01:04 if no one disagree will go forward and mark it #agree in future, my idea 05:01:06 eof 05:01:08 .nextapacmeeting 05:01:08 maktrix: 22 hours, 58 minutes, and 52 seconds 05:01:13 #info trac ticket #25 approved 05:01:21 maktrix: thats buggy at the moment :P 05:01:29 :P 05:01:35 okay, ticket done, next topic? 05:01:42 ok, so, the last topic 05:01:43 sure +1 05:01:52 #topic Open Floor 05:01:55 +1 05:02:01 * FranciscoD has nothing 05:02:04 great meeting :) 05:02:11 * tuanta nothing too 05:02:12 #action FranciscoD send out logs to lists 05:02:14 ! 05:02:18 bckurera: go 05:02:21 :p Sends positive Fedora energy to everyone and thanks everyone for coming today! :p 05:02:31 Just a friendly follow up with harish. 05:02:35 I have some thoughts about budget 05:02:44 ! 05:02:44 Thanks. 05:02:48 bckurera: cool, please 05:02:52 and media prodcution 05:03:01 maktrix: go after bckurera 05:03:05 * FranciscoD goes to comment on trac #25 05:03:11 Nth from me other than that. 05:03:13 can I get to know any info about APAC media production for F17 05:03:30 harish can you ping? 05:03:53 bckurera: we can follow this on the mailing list 05:04:05 ok then thats nice :) 05:04:07 ! 05:04:10 I am done 05:04:12 I would like to have Ambassador Polo during the FUDCon KL; never wore any. :( 05:04:17 eof 05:04:19 FranciscoD: go 05:04:22 I have some 05:04:33 and I am bring them to KL 05:04:37 eof 05:04:52 Is it possible for us to know how much of our budget still remains? 05:04:53 for events? 05:05:05 FranciscoD: good question 05:05:13 I think it's important information to keep in mind when we sit to approve events for reimbursements 05:05:14 +1 05:05:20 +1 05:05:22 Can we maintain a wiki page with a table? 05:05:24 FranciscoD still no official word ! 05:05:28 we are waiting 05:05:45 'event | budget approved | budget remaining' should be enough IMO 05:05:49 bckurera: waiting on whom/what? 05:05:54 at them moment APAC has approved around USD 600 for events in this year. 05:06:05 FranciscoD , harish is the POC 05:06:09 FranciscoD: I think we can see this important information in the monthly FAmSCo report 05:06:17 yes, but the board etc decided the budget 05:06:31 ! 05:06:33 harish is responsible for making it available to us, I thought? 05:06:36 eof inode0 go :) 05:07:00 yeah, last I heard we might hear something with concrete numbers around the middle of this month 05:07:01 ! 05:07:14 details are still scarce for this fiscal year 05:07:16 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_report_2012-03#FY12 05:07:16 ! 05:07:23 should become clear soon though 05:07:24 eof 05:07:26 #info please watch out for announcements on budget numbers 05:07:30 thanks inode0 :) 05:07:32 maktrix: go 05:07:33 all APAC ambassadors should bring their polo and have a photo session with the Polo on. 05:07:37 eof 05:08:00 #info maktrix requests that all APAC ambassadors should bring their polo and have a photo session with the Polo on. 05:08:03 bckurera: go 05:08:07 There are two processes. One is approval from FAmSCo and the next is approval from APAC meetings 05:08:22 requests more than USD 400 goes to FAmSCo 05:08:32 while others are approved in meetings. 05:08:42 So far we have approved some 05:08:51 those info i logged can be found on 05:08:54 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget 05:09:14 +1 FranciscoD bckurera 05:09:15 AFAIK famsco is also waiting for budget info from harish 05:09:33 will be available on this month I suppose 05:09:33 eof 05:09:41 great info bckurera :) 05:09:46 bckurera: is there any wiki to describe this process? 05:09:53 +1 05:10:00 bckurera: since the event is already done, can you please post the reports etc on the event page too? 05:10:08 * FranciscoD noticed reports etc aren't in yet 05:10:13 tuanta I found them on famsco tickets 05:10:23 ! 05:10:26 once fixed they will be on a wiki 05:10:29 inode0: go 05:10:49 famsco is trying to develop a process like that, but it isn't adopted yet I don't believe 05:10:51 eof 05:10:59 #chair inode0 05:10:59 Current chairs: FranciscoD MavJS MavJs bckurera dramsey harish inode0 kaio_ph liznevada maktrix tuanta 05:11:07 * bckurera need to put event report on wiki page, FranciscoD but it is on the planet and blog :) 05:11:21 +1 Everyone, thank you inode0 05:11:28 #info famsco is trying to develop a process for proper budget management, but it isn't adopted yet 05:11:37 bckurera: please update the wiki page, easier for harish :) 05:11:41 .fas harish 05:11:42 FranciscoD: harishpgc10 'Harish Kumar Gupta' - harishsk 'Harish Kumar S.K' - harish386 'Harish Kumar' - harishvedha 'Harish Muralidhar' - harishneit 'Harish Tummalacherla' - charish '' - harishgupta03 'Harish Kumar Gupta' - mgharish 'Harish.mg' (4 more messages) 05:11:47 * FranciscoD faints 05:11:48 * inode0 thinks you should feel comfortable approving things as a group under $500 until someone yells at you :) 05:11:57 XD 05:12:07 bckurera: that should be marked as an action :) 05:12:23 please ! 05:12:31 inode0: cool :) 05:12:36 FranciscoD: that would be .fas harishpillay 05:12:47 #action bckurera please update event page with reports 05:13:00 #action bckurera please send report to ambassadors-ml if not already done 05:13:03 maktrix: ah, thanks :) 05:13:13 #action bckurera put event report on wiki page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Booth_on_Apache_Bar_Camp_Kandy 05:13:32 anything else? 05:13:37 #undo 05:13:37 Removing item from minutes: 05:13:37 8-) 05:13:40 otherwise tuanta can start the count down :P 05:13:45 ok I ll do it soon :) 05:13:46 eof from dramsey 05:13:56 * tuanta nothing more 05:13:59 nothing from me.. :D 05:14:03 APAC did great today, well done everyone!!! :) 05:14:14 Thanks for the great meeting and see you all soon, next week ! 05:14:14 5 05:14:17 4 05:14:20 3 05:14:23 2 05:14:25 +1000 APAC 05:14:25 1 05:14:30 #endmeeting