22:00:20 <cwickert> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2012-04-25
22:00:21 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 25 22:00:20 2012 UTC.  The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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22:00:27 <cwickert> #meetingname famsco
22:00:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco'
22:00:43 <cwickert> #topic roll call
22:00:48 <cwickert> .fas cwickert
22:00:52 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com>
22:01:03 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
22:01:04 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <neville@taygon.com>
22:01:42 <cwickert> #info Zoltan sent regrets, he cannot attend as he is working night shift
22:02:09 * herlo is here
22:03:18 <cwickert> #info kaio is on transit to pet store for food of his my cats and only connected through his mobile but not really available
22:03:28 <igorps> hello folks
22:04:05 <cwickert> #chair cwickert herlo igorps yn1v kaio
22:04:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: cwickert herlo igorps kaio yn1v
22:04:23 <cwickert> first question: who is going to host the meeting?
22:04:31 <herlo> you
22:04:37 <cwickert> ok
22:04:53 <herlo> we can vote in a new chair but it would seem the former chair should do the duty
22:05:00 <cwickert> this brings us to the second question: who is going to be the next famsco chair?
22:05:08 <igorps> herlo, +1
22:05:24 * herlo hides
22:05:25 <herlo> :P
22:05:36 <igorps> do we have a quorum for voting?
22:05:40 <cwickert> yes
22:05:44 <igorps> good
22:05:59 <yn1v> I would like to have cwickert as chair again
22:06:26 <igorps> I see no problems with that
22:06:27 <kaio> hi
22:06:38 * herlo wonders if cwickert really wants to be chair again
22:06:53 <cwickert> it depends on 2 things:
22:07:08 <cwickert> 1. if you want me to be chair again (obvious, isn't it?)
22:07:19 <cwickert> 2. if you will support me
22:07:43 <herlo> cwickert: did we fail to support you before? I believe you are the best candidate for the job.
22:07:52 <kaio> what does "support" include now? :)
22:08:08 <cwickert> I feel like last week I did not receive any substantial support from the other FAmSCo members until herlo stood up
22:08:11 <kaio> I think cwickert has the biggest passion
22:08:53 <cwickert> kaio: make sure to take care of the road, we cannot risk loosing another FAmSCo member ;)
22:09:08 <igorps> cwickert, I believe we all want you to be chair again, what does not mean that we will agree on everything
22:09:20 <cwickert> igorps: that's not what I mean
22:09:28 <igorps> but you have my support
22:09:40 <cwickert> but if somebody asks the board to dissolve FAmSCo, this affects all of us
22:09:42 <kaio> hehe I am still home with 3 cats staring at me with meaning "go get food".
22:09:43 * yn1v will enable -v option on his support to cwickert
22:09:53 <igorps> cwickert, sure.
22:10:07 <cwickert> ok, who wants me to be chair again?
22:10:23 <herlo> +1
22:10:26 <igorps> +1
22:10:42 <yn1v> +1
22:10:43 <kaio> I didn't understand why you stepping down and why not be chair again.
22:10:44 <kaio> +1
22:11:15 <cwickert> #agreed cwickert will be FAmSCo chair (again)
22:11:16 <kaio> all our previous discussions were just positive in order to get the best results
22:11:51 <igorps> kaio, I share the same feeling
22:11:53 <cwickert> lets not get into the things that happened last week too deep now, we have more important work to do
22:11:56 <kaio> and I dont think you have to step down when every petition comes up
22:12:15 <kaio> sure lets move on
22:12:20 <cwickert> too bad
22:12:27 <cwickert> fedorahosted is still down
22:12:36 <herlo> oh noes!
22:12:41 * nirik would like to appologise again about that.
22:12:54 <cwickert> this limits our ability to do the day to day business
22:13:05 <cwickert> ok, then lets try something else
22:13:07 <nirik> I hope it's finished soon... if you really like I can cancel and reschedule the migration...
22:13:33 <cwickert> #topic FUDCon 2013 bids
22:13:36 <herlo> nirik: I don't see that as a good idea
22:13:38 * ianweller is here
22:13:47 <herlo> nirik: migrations are important
22:14:07 <herlo> cwickert: are we talking NA?
22:14:18 * nirik nods, but so is the work you all do. Anyhow, I will let you all know as soon as it's back.
22:14:43 <herlo> thanks
22:14:45 <cwickert> .famsco 288
22:14:45 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/288
22:14:58 <cwickert> the link won't work, just for the minutes
22:15:05 <cwickert> we have a bid for NA
22:15:09 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Lawrence_2013
22:15:16 <cwickert> it's the only bid we have
22:15:31 <cwickert> and I think we just need to rubber-stamp it
22:15:38 <cwickert> ianweller: anything from your side?
22:15:46 <ianweller> only if you guys have any questions
22:15:49 * cwickert looks at the wiki page
22:16:03 <ianweller> the event space isn't completely set in stone yet, i have a meeting next week wednesday on that.
22:16:04 <ianweller> with some folks here at KU
22:16:35 <igorps> ianweller, are you one of the event owners?
22:16:40 <ianweller> but everyone here seems excited to do it. it's just a matter of pushing through the bureaucracy
22:16:43 <ianweller> igorps: i am
22:16:44 <cwickert> ianweller: is this in the middle of nowhere?
22:16:47 <ianweller> cwickert: yes
22:16:56 <ianweller> :)
22:17:11 <cwickert> :(
22:17:12 <ianweller> cwickert: well, no, it's on the edge of nowhere
22:17:18 <ianweller> western kansas is truly the middle of nowhere
22:17:19 <cwickert> fair enough
22:17:30 <ianweller> but we're in eastern kansas ;)
22:17:33 <cwickert> ok, any questions for ianweller?
22:17:52 <herlo> cwickert: you can fly into Kansas City, drive about 45 minutes and you are there. No worse than Blacksburg in that regard.
22:17:55 <kaio> how many attendant expecting?
22:18:01 <cwickert> quote: "Lawrence named one of the best places to retire"
22:18:19 <ianweller> cwickert: hehe
22:18:22 <cwickert> ianweller: I think we are supposed to get shit done and not retire
22:18:23 <igorps> it seems a nice place
22:18:38 <ianweller> cwickert: i think that was something rikki added to help me just get the bid done on time
22:18:44 <cwickert> "While Kansas is a heavily Republican state, Lawrence is reliably Democratic."
22:18:54 <ianweller> the "extra info you don't need" section
22:18:55 <cwickert> haha, you really focus on the important stuff
22:19:09 <ianweller> kaio: no clue, probabyl somewhere between 140-180, given previous years
22:19:22 <ianweller> temperature seems to be a deciding factor for most people, tempe had ~200
22:19:26 * cwickert looks for flights
22:19:37 <kaio> ianweller: not bad
22:19:56 <ianweller> i expect we will hit the 140 mark, which has traditionally been the magic "we stop giving people free food/shirts" mark
22:20:08 <cwickert> al right, hang on a second, need to restart my browser
22:20:13 <cwickert> s/al/all
22:20:20 <nb> although at blacksburg i think everyone ended up with free food usually
22:20:24 <ianweller> also the engineering building uses only fedora for their linux machines
22:20:32 <nb> nice
22:20:35 <ianweller> so a lot of people in the EECS department know what fedora is and have used it
22:20:47 <kaio> good
22:20:58 <ianweller> so i expect we'll get some student involvement, possibly more so than previous years in NA
22:21:17 <ianweller> otoh we are doing it the weekend before classes start, so that we have space inside the buildings and whatnot
22:21:23 <ianweller> so we'll see
22:21:54 <cwickert> ok, flighs from Germany are fine
22:22:00 <cwickert> not worse than Blacksburg
22:22:18 <cwickert> even cheaper and it takes just as long
22:22:25 <cwickert> no objections from my side
22:22:29 <ianweller> :)
22:22:36 <cwickert> any more questions, any objections?
22:22:48 <ianweller> assuming no other objections i'll talk to rbergeron about getting the announcement sent out soonish.
22:22:51 <cwickert> (speak up or be quiet for ever)
22:22:59 * nb throws rubber stamps at ianweller
22:23:11 <kaio> I support. +1
22:23:14 <ianweller> nb: i'm hit!
22:23:15 <cwickert> +1
22:23:45 <yn1v> +1
22:23:52 <igorps> +1
22:23:56 <cwickert> #agreed FAmSCo supports the FUDCon 2012 Bid for Lawrence
22:24:05 <ianweller> s/2012/2013/
22:24:16 <cwickert> #undo
22:24:16 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Agreed object at 0x340b88d0>
22:24:23 <cwickert> #agreed FAmSCo supports the FUDCon 2013 Bid for Lawrence
22:24:25 <cwickert> thanks ianweller
22:24:30 <ianweller> thanks all
22:24:31 <herlo> +1
22:25:05 <cwickert> ok, as we have no trac at the moment, lets get back to our evergreen
22:25:17 <cwickert> #topic New FAmSCo election guidelines
22:25:26 <cwickert> we all agreed on the guideliens
22:25:30 <cwickert> lines*
22:25:38 <cwickert> but the transition is still unclear
22:25:49 <cwickert> we can either have an election now or for F19
22:25:59 <cwickert> if we have one now, we should elect all seats
22:26:18 <cwickert> who volunteered to step down so far?
22:26:27 <kaio> I am.
22:26:27 * cwickert did
22:26:35 * herlo 
22:26:36 <igorps> so did I
22:26:43 <yn1v> I did
22:26:59 <cwickert> does anybody know something about Zoltan?
22:27:45 <kaio> ?
22:27:49 <igorps> I think he also did, from what I recall from the ticket
22:27:58 <cwickert> igorps: ah, right in the ticket
22:28:04 <kaio> he was like above my comment
22:28:08 <cwickert> ok, so here is the deal
22:28:24 <cwickert> I don't want to force any of you to run for re-election
22:28:33 <cwickert> in fact I feel I have been pushing too hard
22:29:00 <cwickert> I have spent some time reading the guidelines
22:29:21 <cwickert> and I was wrong to say we cannot switch to the new guidelines without F18 elections
22:29:39 <cwickert> we can do the switch and wait until F19 for the next regular elections
22:30:18 <cwickert> I still would like F18 elections because more people are allowed to vote
22:30:18 <igorps> I prefer that approach
22:30:23 <cwickert> but it's not mandatory
22:30:47 <cwickert> for me it is important that we a) make the switch and b) everybody is fine with it
22:31:21 <cwickert> again, I don't want to put pressure on anybody and make them agree to F18 elections
22:31:27 <cwickert> so, F18 or F19?
22:31:37 <yn1v> I think the sooner the better
22:32:22 <cwickert> inode0: would it cause you additional headache to have FAmSCo elections with F18?
22:32:26 <igorps> I already have stated my concerns about changing the rules during the game, but if guys are willing to do it for F18 let's go for it
22:32:46 <cwickert> igorps: yes, noted and I share them
22:32:54 <inode0> only slight, I don't object
22:33:34 <cwickert> herlo, kaio: F18 or F19?
22:33:41 <kaio> I am happy to either.
22:33:45 * herlo is happy either way
22:33:49 <kaio> F18 is good.
22:33:51 <cwickert> haha
22:33:58 <igorps> So all seats would be open for F18 elections and then again for F19, right?
22:34:01 <herlo> I mentioned before, I would step down *only* if the elections were in F18
22:34:11 <herlo> igorps: no
22:34:22 <herlo> igorps: only 3 seats would be up in f19
22:34:29 <herlo> but the terms would always be two releases from tha tpoint
22:34:30 <igorps> herlo, ok
22:34:42 <herlo> whatever the cut off point is.
22:35:06 <herlo> it would alternate 3 then 4 then 3. and so on
22:35:37 <cwickert> guys, I am not going to make this decision, I have pushed too much already
22:35:48 <herlo> I say we take a vote for F18
22:36:12 <igorps> If we are going to cast votes I vote for F19
22:36:13 <herlo> if we don't get a decision to go ahead, we do F19
22:36:31 <kaio> F18
22:36:32 <yn1v> I vote for F18
22:36:39 <herlo> igorps: or that could work.
22:36:52 <herlo> I think we need to determine how the vote will work.
22:36:53 <cwickert> that is +3 for F18 and +1 for F19
22:37:03 <igorps> if F18 wins my seat will be open for election anyway :)
22:37:09 <cwickert> fortunately it does not really matter what I think at this point
22:37:25 <herlo> hmm, okay
22:37:30 * cwickert is glad he did not have to make the decision
22:37:38 <herlo> cwickert: did I vote?
22:37:45 <herlo> because I don't recall voting
22:37:58 <cwickert> herlo: I thought you were for F18?
22:38:09 <herlo> cwickert: I was aksing if we vote for or against f18
22:38:15 <cwickert> ah
22:38:20 <herlo> and if not, we let it slide to f19
22:38:25 <cwickert> ok, lets make it simple
22:38:25 <herlo> but everyone started voting
22:38:30 <cwickert> who wants F18?
22:38:32 <herlo> so I'm good to try again.
22:38:36 <kaio> F18
22:38:41 <yn1v> F18
22:39:00 <igorps> F19
22:39:24 <herlo> F18
22:39:32 <cwickert> F18
22:40:10 <igorps> I saw that coming :)
22:40:17 <cwickert> #agreed There will be a FAmSCo election for F18, all seats will be open. The top 4 vote-getters will serve one year, the bottom three 6 months
22:40:20 <herlo> indeed. I actually debated it.
22:40:37 <cwickert> ok, we have a decision now and that's it
22:40:38 <herlo> yay! we have a decision
22:40:40 <cwickert> case closed
22:40:47 <igorps> fair enough
22:40:52 <nb> yay!
22:40:58 <cwickert> wait...
22:41:14 <cwickert> nb: are you fine or do you still have some concerns?
22:42:06 <cwickert> nb: ?
22:42:17 <cwickert> or more general
22:42:28 <cwickert> what if somebody else has concerns?
22:42:51 <cwickert> we planned to have a 2 weeks period for feedback
22:43:08 <inode0> !
22:43:25 <nb> cwickert, i am fine
22:43:31 <cwickert> but this will get tricky if we want elections for F18, inode0 needs to send out the announcements
22:43:35 <cwickert> inode0: shoot
22:43:38 <cwickert> nb: thanks
22:44:26 <inode0> We can make the announcement on Friday. There is plenty of time.
22:44:46 <herlo> great!
22:44:54 <inode0> People should blog and whatnot to let ambassadors know if they are interested to run.
22:45:04 <herlo> inode0: good point
22:45:13 <cwickert> ok, what about the others? do you see any problems with the feedback phase against the upcoming elections?
22:45:43 <herlo> cwickert: the feedback phase has been going on, I figured that is what this whole 'todo' was about in the first place. No?
22:46:00 <kaio> when will be the election date likely?
22:46:11 <inode0> yes, but we can't wait two weeks to announce - it isn't ideal to not allow feedback but you got plenty of feedback already I think :)
22:46:12 <herlo> we put it out there, ambassadors responded with their POV and we have adjusted accordingly.
22:46:13 <inode0> EOF
22:46:13 <cwickert> kaio: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections
22:46:24 <herlo> inode0: agreed.
22:46:31 <igorps> I'm not quite sure if we have enough time for more feedback
22:47:00 <herlo> igorps: +1
22:47:02 <cwickert> herlo, inode0: right, I think after nb's petition we had a lot of attention, probably more than every blog article or whatnot could ever cause
22:47:20 <igorps> cwickert, +1
22:47:28 <cwickert> ok, then let go public ASAP
22:47:36 <yn1v> +1
22:47:39 <cwickert> #action cwickert to update the wiki page
22:47:44 <cwickert> #undo
22:47:44 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Action object at 0x1c9083d0>
22:48:03 <cwickert> #action cwickert to update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy
22:48:23 <cwickert> #action all FAmSCo members: spread the word about the new FAmSCo election guidelines
22:48:35 <cwickert> #info we need to hurry up
22:48:56 <cwickert> #action cwickert to send inode0 all necessary info for his announcement
22:49:20 <cwickert> inode0: if I send you the info tonight, what do you think when you can send the announcement?
22:50:34 * inode0 is happy to consider himself informed of the decision now and he can proceed without anything more, thanks
22:50:48 <cwickert> ok
22:51:09 <inode0> the announcement will come from a Board member I think as it traditionally does
22:51:15 <cwickert> anything more on this or can we *finally* close this case and do something else?
22:51:32 <kaio> +1
22:51:36 <igorps> nothing else from me
22:51:37 <herlo> +1 close it
22:51:38 <cwickert> ok
22:51:44 <cwickert> what's next?
22:51:52 * herlo votes for sleep
22:51:54 <cwickert> any ideas what we can discuss without trac?
22:51:58 <cwickert> ah, I have one
22:52:06 <cwickert> the case of the missing FAmSCo member
22:52:10 <herlo> oh, yes.
22:52:18 <cwickert> I received a mail form gbraad
22:52:32 <cwickert> it said he personally had a very hard time
22:52:52 <cwickert> health and family issues
22:53:09 <cwickert> kaio knows something about this, so do I
22:53:18 <igorps> It really seemed a hard time for him
22:53:21 <cwickert> but as this is personal, it does not belong into this meeting
22:53:41 <cwickert> I think he deserves respect and support
22:53:50 <kaio> I talked to him the other day, but I let gbraad to manage how much he wants to tell.
22:54:00 <igorps> Gerard was an active member of last FAmSCo term
22:54:00 <cwickert> kaio: +1
22:54:11 <cwickert> igorps: +1 as well
22:54:30 <igorps> only something really serious could have happened
22:54:35 <kaio> he has been active and helpful in China community, but there are real hard times forced his absence
22:55:01 <herlo> igorps: I think that is what cwickert and kaio are indicating
22:55:01 <cwickert> igorps: it was serious, trust me. all of us can be happy it did not happen to us
22:55:23 <cwickert> so Gerard told me he will not step down
22:55:36 <cwickert> but he said he would understand if we force him to do so
22:55:55 <cwickert> so the question is: what are we going to do?
22:55:56 <igorps> cwickert, sure, that was clear for me knowing him from his work on FAmSCo previous term
22:56:23 <herlo> I think if it's as serious as you indicate, we just have his seat up for F18 like the rest of us and the case can be closed.
22:56:42 <igorps> his seat will be open for election, anyway
22:56:45 <cwickert> should we remove him from FAmSCo, given that the next elctions are beginning at July 1st?
22:56:57 <cwickert> that is 5 weeks from now
22:57:04 * inode0 thought all seats were up for election in F18, is that incorrect?
22:57:10 <cwickert> inode0: yes
22:57:17 <kaio> IMO this don't make a big difference, if we have quorum in next few meetings.
22:57:23 <herlo> I see no point in removing him at this point. It changes nothing.
22:57:25 <igorps> I really don't think a removal is necessary now
22:57:29 <cwickert> not enough time for somebody to catch up with FAmSCo business
22:57:30 * inode0 suggests riding it out until then
22:57:37 <cwickert> +1
22:57:42 <herlo> I think we're all on the same page
22:57:49 <cwickert> ok
22:57:52 <kaio> lets everyone just attend meeting as avail as possible
22:57:52 <yn1v> +1
22:57:55 <kaio> +1
22:58:18 <herlo> what is it we are voting then?
22:58:33 <cwickert> herlo: not removing him but just waiting
22:58:36 <cwickert> +1
22:58:37 <herlo> +1
22:58:45 <igorps> +1
22:58:49 <kaio> +1
22:58:51 <yn1v> +1
22:58:52 <herlo> cwickert: yeah, just wanted it to be official. :)
22:59:03 <cwickert> #agreed FAmSCo appreciates the work gbraad has done and will not remove him from the committee forcefully
22:59:19 <cwickert> oops, still wrong #topic, but anyway...
22:59:31 <cwickert> ok, anything more we can do?
22:59:40 <igorps> I filed a ticket about FISL, fortunately the wiki page has budget information
22:59:56 <igorps> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FISL13
23:00:12 <cwickert> #topic 13th International Free Software Forum - FISL
23:00:25 <cwickert> .famsco 276
23:00:26 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/276
23:00:37 <cwickert> (still doesn't work, just for the logs)
23:00:51 <igorps> The wiki page has basically the same information anyway
23:00:58 <cwickert> I have already given my +1 in trac before it disappeared
23:01:36 <igorps> The FAD that we will host is already approved as well
23:01:54 <cwickert> igorps: is it really a FAD?
23:02:02 <cwickert> oh, it is!
23:02:03 <cwickert> cool
23:02:20 * cwickert likes getting stuff done (tm)
23:02:34 <kaio> GTD++
23:02:34 <herlo> +1 for the fad
23:02:38 <kaio> +1
23:02:43 * kaio goes
23:02:57 <kaio> any more tickets need me?
23:03:07 <igorps> cwickert, it will be a nice opportunity to get stuff done
23:03:37 <igorps> I will work with yn1v to purchase airfare directly
23:03:51 <yn1v> I was to make a blessing for buying blank medias, but did not have opportunity to make a ticket
23:03:52 <igorps> so we avoid PayPal fees
23:03:53 <cwickert> #agreed budget for FISL is approved as outlined in the wiki
23:04:16 <yn1v> s / make /ask
23:04:35 <cwickert> then we have this ticket for 100 USD
23:04:53 <cwickert> #topic Reimbursement - shipping costs
23:05:05 <cwickert> .famsco 284
23:05:06 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/284
23:05:07 <yn1v> Yes, I like what is been planned for FISL and yes I can help igorps
23:05:17 * cwickert pulls all the info from his inbox
23:05:27 <cwickert> I think we should just approve this one
23:05:58 <cwickert> it's only USD 100.43 and has been paid already, so somebody is waiting for reimbursement
23:06:05 <kaio> +1
23:06:07 <cwickert> +1
23:06:09 <yn1v> +1
23:06:19 <igorps> cwickert, that would be me :)
23:06:43 <yn1v> This is for Leandro, isn't it?
23:06:43 <cwickert> igorps: ah, then we don't approve it ;)
23:07:04 <igorps> cwickert, I'm biased here :)
23:07:09 <cwickert> I assume that igorps is +1
23:07:13 <igorps> +1!
23:07:30 <cwickert> #agreed #284 is approved
23:07:50 <cwickert> #topic Fedora disks for first half of 2012 (Chile and Argentina)
23:07:53 <herlo> +1
23:07:58 <cwickert> .famsco 263
23:07:59 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/263
23:07:59 <yn1v> to who I have to reimburse?
23:07:59 <herlo> sorry, I'm slow today
23:08:15 <igorps> yn1v, me
23:08:18 <cwickert> yn1v: to igorps
23:08:41 <yn1v> ah, ok..
23:08:57 <cwickert> yn1v: what about the media? will you be able to make a payment of USD 3055.53 or do we need harish?
23:09:23 <cwickert> sorry, USD 1449
23:10:18 <yn1v> I can reimburse that, but I would like to have harish approval first
23:10:23 <cwickert> yn1v: USD 1449 is with PayPal, else it's only 1380
23:10:50 <cwickert> yn1v: I'm afraid this will take too long, but if you like
23:11:22 <cwickert> yn1v: would you be able to make the payment directly without PayPal?
23:11:29 <yn1v> harish took ownership of the ticket
23:11:33 <cwickert> 5% extra seems a much
23:12:22 <igorps> usually we work with 7.5%
23:12:22 <cwickert> yn1v: harish did not take ownership, we assigned it to him when it was still > USD 3000
23:12:40 <cwickert> igorps: for a bank transfer?!
23:12:49 <yn1v> harish is more flexible, he is using other reimburse methods that were not used before, he may use western union or some siminlar service
23:12:58 <igorps> cwickert, no, for Paypal
23:13:23 <cwickert> yn1v: ok, then harish should take care of it
23:13:36 <yn1v> I will write harish to speed things up
23:13:45 <cwickert> #action yn1v to nag harish about #263
23:14:12 <cwickert> any other tickets?
23:14:31 <yn1v> I have one petition for blessing but no ticket
23:14:54 <cwickert> yn1v: is it urgent? how much is it?
23:15:02 <yn1v> to buy 50 blank dvd and 50 blank cd for FLISOL
23:15:18 <cwickert> approved
23:15:20 <cwickert> :)
23:15:26 <yn1v> I was so focus in the other request that forgot mine,... it is for this weekend
23:15:37 <igorps> yn1v, +1
23:15:56 <cwickert> no, really, as a credit card holder we do trust you to approve this
23:16:21 <yn1v> yes, but I like to have blessing from the rest
23:16:29 <cwickert> you should file a ticket for reporting, but we definitely trust you
23:16:34 <cwickert> yn1v: what is the rest?
23:16:52 <yn1v> nothing important form my side
23:17:08 <yn1v> just that
23:17:41 <herlo> yn1v: the rest of famsco?
23:17:46 <cwickert> ah
23:18:04 * cwickert thought there was more to be approved
23:18:23 <cwickert> what about the general approval guidelines?
23:18:53 <cwickert> note sure if we should discuss this topic now, but it seems important in long or mid term
23:20:02 <yn1v> sorry, cwickert the rest = other famsco members
23:20:12 <cwickert> yeah, got this
23:20:28 <cwickert> #topic Regulate what regional tracs are needed
23:20:36 <cwickert> .famsco 268
23:20:36 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/268
23:20:52 <cwickert> I received a mail from Ankur while trac was offline
23:21:08 <cwickert> and he said the APAC community will take care of this
23:21:16 <cwickert> nothing left for us to do
23:21:41 <cwickert> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-04.01.html
23:21:42 <igorps> good to know they figured this out
23:21:50 <cwickert> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-04.01.log.html#l-125
23:22:12 <cwickert> wrong link
23:22:19 <cwickert> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-04.01.log.html#l-385
23:22:53 <cwickert> #info all APAC tickets will be handled in https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac
23:23:09 <cwickert> #info https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ will be discontinued and read-only
23:23:44 <cwickert> #topic Discuss Budget Allocation for FY2012
23:23:54 <cwickert> .famsco 279
23:23:55 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/279
23:24:14 <cwickert> I'm afraid there is nothing we can do until we have figures about the regional budget from Harish
23:24:37 <cwickert> and until the 2012 budget is confirmed
23:24:46 <igorps> indeed, we really need those numbers
23:24:49 <cwickert> but the good news is that we at least have a deadline now
23:25:05 <cwickert> #info 2012 budget should be confirmed by May 15th
23:25:16 <cwickert> no matter who actually will pay it
23:25:54 <cwickert> #topic Funding request for the drinks, Release Party F17 Surakarta
23:26:01 <cwickert> .famsco 278
23:26:01 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/278
23:26:08 <cwickert> this is about USD 53
23:26:15 <cwickert> for catering only
23:26:22 <cwickert> the rest was already approved
23:26:34 <cwickert> the ticket even has an invoice attached
23:26:41 <cwickert> so I think we should just approve it
23:26:55 <cwickert> the food is already ordered and will be delivered to the event
23:27:07 <cwickert> opinions?
23:27:37 <igorps> It seems that everything is in place already
23:27:41 <kaio_ph> +1
23:27:46 <cwickert> +1
23:27:51 <igorps> no need to delay the approval
23:28:40 <cwickert> herlo: still with us?
23:29:20 <cwickert> yn1v: what about you?
23:29:37 <cwickert> come on, this is the last ticket according to my inbox
23:29:46 <yn1v> +1
23:29:50 <cwickert> #agreed #278 is approved
23:29:56 <cwickert> ok, eof then
23:30:01 <cwickert> any other business?
23:30:10 <cwickert> #topic Open Floor
23:30:15 <kaio_ph> No from me
23:30:17 <igorps> nothing else from me
23:30:29 * cwickert waits 3 minutes before he closes the meeting
23:30:30 <yn1v> I have an announcement ... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Managua_2013
23:30:46 <kaio_ph> The trip to hong kong is almost prepared.
23:31:00 <cwickert> yn1v: can you please add this to #288?
23:31:12 <yn1v> okey
23:31:21 <cwickert> #action yn1v to add the bid for Managua to #288
23:31:42 <cwickert> ok, thanks everybody for coming
23:31:45 * herlo is good
23:31:53 <kaio_ph> Just need to fill the later half of 20 people and more topics. Given bochecha provided venue, snacks.
23:32:05 <kaio_ph> Thanks.
23:32:24 <kaio_ph> Cya ttyl. Getting food back for my cats.
23:34:31 <cwickert> kaio_ph: hurry, before they eat you"
23:34:37 <herlo> lol
23:34:39 <cwickert> #endmeeting