04:00:35 #startmeeting 04:00:35 Meeting started Sat Apr 21 04:00:35 2012 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:00:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:00:42 *it 04:00:43 #meetingname APAC 04:00:43 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 04:00:51 #chair bckurera udinnet 04:00:51 Current chairs: bckurera dramsey udinnet 04:01:00 .fas bckurera 04:01:01 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 04:01:06 #chair jurank_dankkal 04:01:06 Current chairs: bckurera dramsey jurank_dankkal udinnet 04:01:14 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-04-21#Agenda 04:01:18 .fas ekoikhyar 04:01:19 ekoikhyar: ekoikhyar 'eko ikhyar' 04:01:21 #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:01:25 .fas udinnet 04:01:29 udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' 04:01:38 #chair ekoikhyar 04:01:38 Current chairs: bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar jurank_dankkal udinnet 04:01:42 .fas dramsey 04:01:43 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:01:57 My name is dramsey, from Japan and I use Fedora 16 from a DVD and Fedora 17 from an .ISO. I like System Administration Topics as well as Kernels." 04:02:18 "Hi dramsey" 04:02:25 Buddhike, do next? :) 04:02:29 Hello VICONDANAX 04:02:34 hai all 04:02:54 hi ekoikhyar 04:03:15 #chair VICODANAX 04:03:15 Current chairs: VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar jurank_dankkal udinnet 04:03:21 Next topic? 04:03:26 +1 04:03:28 aww i feel special 04:03:31 #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting 04:03:33 VICODAN* 04:03:42 .fas VICODAN 04:03:43 VICODAN_: vicodan '' 04:04:05 dramsey ok :) 04:04:11 bckurera, what do you think about the Action items? 04:04:12 action item #1 : FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas 04:04:30 so what I can offer this meeting off hand, I'd like to say I contacted timbuk2 about fudcon in June and I'm waiting a reply. Have not received one. 04:04:36 we can take actions items which are not marked and owner is present 04:04:48 I dont see FranciscoD 04:04:57 therefore will add it again 04:04:57 he's not here 04:04:59 .fas 04:04:59 zerng07: (fas ) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match. 04:05:01 that is good bckurera 04:05:03 +1 Buddhike 04:05:10 .fas zerng07 04:05:11 zerng07: zerng07 'Cheng-Chia Tseng' 04:05:11 #action FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas 04:05:19 #chair zerng07 04:05:19 Current chairs: VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar jurank_dankkal udinnet zerng07 04:05:33 Action Item #2: bckurera add more ideas into things need to be discussed f2f at FUDCon KL 04:05:40 my action items are pending yet, my bad 04:05:46 I ll finish them with in this week 04:05:46 :) 04:05:47 No problem. 04:05:51 #action bckurera add more ideas into things need to be discussed f2f at FUDCon KL 04:06:00 #action bckurera to work on video to elaborate the importance of apac-trac 04:06:03 lol 04:06:09 #action bckurera talk to infra about -india trac situation 04:06:17 bckurera did you have breakfast yet? 04:06:42 VICODAN_ that is the only AI, I have complete for this meeting :) 04:07:00 what about tuans' AI 04:07:02 tuanta Reorganize items page for face2face discussion at KL 04:07:03 * VICODAN_ puts bckurera in time out 04:07:05 any news? 04:07:29 waiting on response 04:07:34 for fudcon june 04:07:55 How about #9? 04:08:03 over 9,000 04:08:07 VICODAN_ which FUDCon is in June? 04:08:16 Action Item #9 : all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco budget, get back in next meeting 04:08:20 APAC 04:08:21 any news on this? 04:08:45 sorry 04:08:48 I do not know timbuk2 04:08:52 that's in may 04:09:03 bag company 04:09:06 +1 bckurera 04:09:14 i proposed this idea 04:09:20 they make laptop bags 04:09:25 i contacted them on behalf of fedora 04:09:29 www.timbuk2.com 04:09:40 VICODAN shall we take your discussion later, we are on a meeting and it is logging ! 04:09:57 may be on Open Floor? 04:10:08 shall we move in to the nxt topic ? 04:10:10 yes 04:10:15 thanks 04:10:26 Is there any idea on buttons? 04:10:41 I would like to have some fedora buttons 04:10:46 Do you know a button size? 04:10:56 1.5" or 1" 04:10:58 thinking 04:11:02 It says it is produced by FAmSCo 04:11:10 no more info 04:11:47 kaio is not here :( 04:12:29 We should keep that action for next meeting.. IMO 04:12:33 i dont know man 04:12:34 Should we make an "inquiry" for kaio at the FAmSCo meeting? 04:12:35 ? 04:12:36 +1 04:12:40 Hi inode0 04:12:41 i think it's a waste 04:12:44 #chair inode0 04:12:44 Current chairs: VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar inode0 jurank_dankkal udinnet zerng07 04:12:47 #action all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco budget, get back in next meeting 04:12:53 either have the blue fedora logo or the beefy miracle character on it 04:13:00 as small and cheap as possible 04:13:18 1.5" 04:13:20 normal size 04:13:28 i would say blue fedora logo 04:13:45 with a 17 and the beefy character on the top right 04:13:56 Hi kaio_ph 04:14:00 #chair kaio_ph 04:14:00 Current chairs: VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07 04:14:03 we have kaio_ph 04:14:04 Him 04:14:09 Just in time XD 04:14:21 Jurank is ambassador now. 04:14:31 do you have a button vendor? NA is about to make some buttons too. 04:14:35 check these out 04:14:36 http://www.custompins.com/homepage_update/corporate-gallery.htm 04:14:41 http://inode0.fedorapeople.org/swag/fedora-buttons.jpg 04:14:56 oh that is perfect 04:14:58 we might be able to help 04:14:59 do want 04:15:09 inode0: that looks really cool :) 04:15:27 Udinnet : In Sri Lanka button is around USD 0.5 04:15:47 kaio_ph: thx kaio for ur helping n trust me.. 04:16:04 +1 for ideas 04:16:06 hope me can do my best for ambassador 04:16:12 ? 04:16:22 bckurera: That is good. 04:16:30 please dramsey 04:16:32 kaio_ph, do you know about "all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco budget, get back in next meeting" Action Item? 04:16:34 eof 04:16:41 .50 for how many? 04:16:51 i mean how many do you plan to have made? 04:17:00 so u guys will bring button to fudcon kl? 04:17:07 I trust who kagesensei trusts. 04:17:08 inode0: is there a confirmed price for a button in NA? 04:17:39 we pay around 22-23 cents apiece 04:18:15 I'm not sure how easy it would be to haul them from here to FUDCon, but we could check 04:18:45 bckurera: since kaio_ph is here. We can have some idea regarding the button making? 04:19:21 kaio_ph is there any plan form FAmSCo side about making buttons? 04:19:38 No hehe. 04:20:17 FAmSCo relies on local ambassadors vision. 04:20:34 kaio_ph then the Action Item seems useless ! 04:20:55 This is different from region to region. 04:21:28 Sth like apac it is not easy to bring swags through customs. 04:21:37 Ok so we have to have a plan. If we produce buttons outside of MY some one have to take them to the FUDCon. 04:22:01 ? 04:22:09 please dramsey 04:22:28 Should we have an "inquiry" / "action" between FUDCon organizers and FAmSCo ? 04:22:29 eof 04:23:42 Additionally, as well as APAC FAms "inquiry" ? eof 04:23:57 dramsey I think the action iteam is misleading and not accurate? 04:24:18 Another thing is why FUDcon my is related here? 04:24:21 I am confused 04:24:32 I personally suggest u manufacture in MY 04:24:34 +1 04:24:54 ? 04:24:57 kaio_ph: +1 here 04:25:08 VICODAN_ is from USA so why MY here? 04:26:18 Shall we bring this producing button question to the mailing list? 04:26:44 ok we'll keep the action item for next meeting. KageSenshi may be provide us a good idea :) 04:26:55 +1 04:27:09 ok i ll add it then 04:27:20 #action all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco budget, get back in next meeting 04:27:26 next topic? 04:27:26 May be next topic due to this action item. My question - Is there a "budget" / "quantity" request via FAmSCo for buttons? eof 04:27:26 nxt topic then? 04:27:30 +1 Buddhike 04:27:36 +1 udinnet 04:27:56 dramsey it depends on the amount 04:28:03 True. 04:28:05 AFAIK there is no such request 04:28:06 Next topic? 04:28:11 Okay 04:28:16 Move forward 04:28:20 #topic APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey) 04:28:20 +1 04:28:36 +1 04:28:43 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY13_Q1_.28March_2012_-_May_2012.29_4 04:28:50 For Fedora Events this quarter 04:28:57 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events 04:29:08 above link is for your Fedora 17 Release Events 04:29:19 #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html 04:29:30 above link is for your Fedora 17 Ambassadors Team Tasks 04:29:33 any idea? 04:29:41 sorry dramsey 04:29:55 No probs., bckurera, we move forward 04:30:02 #chair FranciscoD 04:30:02 Current chairs: FranciscoD VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07 04:30:05 Hi FranciscoD 04:30:06 * FranciscoD is here 04:30:13 here comes FranciscoD 04:30:16 hello FranciscoD welcome 04:30:36 ? 04:30:38 * harish at the keyboard; read the chats 04:30:44 #chair harish 04:30:44 Current chairs: FranciscoD VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar harish inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07 04:30:47 Hi Harish 04:30:51 dramsey, hey 04:30:54 hello, sorry I'm late :) 04:30:54 please dramsey 04:30:59 * FranciscoD goes to read up logs 04:31:00 FranciscoD, we are at APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties, but do you have any scoop on Survey? 04:31:08 FranciscoD: had a long sleep? 04:31:08 hi FranciscoD 04:31:10 thank you FranciscoD and Harish 04:31:11 eof 04:31:16 ! 04:31:26 got something to show you guys 04:31:29 re: buttons 04:31:33 please VICODAN_ 04:31:46 http://i.imgur.com/So0Pc.png 04:32:16 $.20 each 04:32:43 http://i.imgur.com/TQNAE.png 04:32:46 VICODAN_: not during a meeting mate, wait up 04:32:54 it's on topic. 04:33:01 VICODAN_: no its not 04:33:01 you're late; ) 04:33:05 well it was 04:33:10 +1 FranciscoD 04:33:21 VICODAN_: wait your turn, follow protocol 04:33:25 this is an apac meeting 04:33:28 :) 04:33:32 i know 04:33:33 Let's be in the topic for the moment 04:33:40 okay move on 04:33:40 udinnet: please continue 04:34:06 Hi, I would like to discuss my ticket! 04:34:21 ticket 23. 04:34:43 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23 04:34:48 reminding we are at #topic APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey) 04:35:00 +1 bckurera 04:35:13 anything to discuss under the above topic? 04:35:16 or move? 04:35:29 eof, just think for Fedora 17 eof 04:35:46 +1 bckurera 04:35:47 I think move to nxt 04:35:51 +1 04:35:59 #topic Review APAC trac tickets 04:36:11 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23 04:36:39 since we have harish and zerng07 , we can discuss about this ! 04:36:46 +1 04:36:48 go ahead 04:36:56 the situation is kind of complicated now. 04:37:14 +1 04:37:35 ! 04:37:53 zerng07: can you explain a bit? 04:37:56 Please. 04:38:08 please harish 04:38:11 ok 04:38:25 looking at the last entry in the ticket, i think zerng07 should just do what 04:38:35 is needed to make this happen elsewhere 04:38:35 The new date I set is on the same day Ubuntu and Firefox Release Party. 04:38:56 zerng07, i hate to use this phrase, but "think out of the box". 04:39:13 it cannot be that there aren't any other places in Taipei that can be used for this? 04:39:32 "what else, where else can I do this"? 04:39:44 i need a room, a projector and internet access 04:39:54 where else can i get these three things? 04:40:00 #chair FranciscoD_ 04:40:00 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar harish inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07 04:40:02 a school? 04:40:03 #chair FranciscoD_ 04:40:03 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar harish inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07 04:40:06 Em... I have to ask others to search for the place if want to in Taipei. 04:40:07 a university campus? 04:40:25 places where students gather? 04:40:28 starbucks? 04:40:38 or the equivalent of starbucks perhaps 04:40:51 university campus needs complicated procedures. 04:40:53 * bckurera loves starbucks 04:40:55 don't get fixated with one problem that is in front of you and go around it. 04:41:04 then forget the university 04:41:07 go elsewhere 04:41:19 isn't the academia sinica available? 04:41:28 explore out of your comfort zones. 04:41:35 Yeah, I have discussed with those who arranged Firefox and Ubuntu party. 04:41:35 Hack it ;) 04:41:56 join them if you can 04:42:02 if they are not willing, so be it. 04:42:07 don't let that stop you. 04:42:16 I don't know academia sinica is available or not, I have to check that. 04:42:29 Yeah. 04:42:30 zerng07, exactly what you should do. 04:42:47 i am sure that there are plenty of other places available and am sure they will 04:42:54 not put issues in front of you. 04:43:02 my message is this: 04:43:07 I want to set a different time for people who want to attend both be posssible. 04:43:10 don't let one obstacle upset the plan 04:43:18 then do that. 04:43:43 be entrepreneurial 04:44:17 which university are you in? 04:44:21 * udinnet likes harish's ideas 04:44:30 Chung Shan Medical University. 04:44:30 +1 04:44:58 ah ok. 04:45:11 perhaps that is a place that has restrictions so go elsewhere. 04:45:31 I think that the better way is to host at different date. 04:45:37 look for the taiwan computer society, or the equivalent 04:46:03 do what you have to, and not be stuck on one issue. 04:46:09 OK. 04:46:11 work around it 04:47:06 ok, so please persist. i can ping my colleagues in Red Hat Taiwan for ideas as well. 04:47:10 I want to make sure that is site rental expense in my first propose OK or not? 04:47:34 Good! That will be good. 04:47:48 Be in a coffee shop with a projector? 04:48:07 * bckurera +1 04:48:28 drop me a note with your cell# to hpillay at redhat dot com and I will see if my Taiwanese colleagues can help out. 04:48:46 OK. Thanks. 04:49:10 eof i think 04:49:41 Thanks harish for your valued advice 04:49:49 OK, so I will try to select a differnt time or try to get a place for three parties hosted together. 04:50:14 I think this is the only ticket we have for todau 04:50:22 *today 04:50:43 yes this is the only ticket 04:50:53 is there anything else we need to discuss or move? 04:51:15 zerng07: I think you got a really great advice for harish ;) 04:51:28 Yes. 04:51:36 Thanks harish! 04:51:40 I think you can move :) 04:51:43 zerng07, you are most welcome. 04:51:51 sorry we can move 04:51:53 XD 04:52:07 to the next topic 04:52:21 +1 Great ideas and move forward 04:52:24 +1 04:52:43 #topic Open Floor 04:52:49 ? 04:52:57 hi 04:52:58 dramsey please 04:53:02 thank you 04:53:16 Harish, I received an e-mail from a Chris Leonard at the Sugar Labs 04:53:21 i made these with bckurera instructions: http://i.imgur.com/1XvN7.png 04:53:24 VICODAN_ after dramsey please 04:53:28 k 04:53:37 harish, Mr. Leonard has a OLPC for Danishka Navin 04:53:52 nice 04:53:59 Thinking out of the box, may be a relay from Red Hat (U.S.) to Singapore. 04:54:05 Should I relay information via e-mail 04:54:07 eof? 04:54:11 sure 04:54:13 +1 04:54:18 thank you, Harish 04:54:18 eof 04:54:32 VICODAN_ floor is yours 04:54:41 hi 04:54:50 i made these per bckurera request: http://i.imgur.com/1XvN7.png 04:54:54 .20 each for 500 04:55:43 * udinnet thinks it looks nice 04:55:50 thanks 04:55:59 VICODAN_ since you are from NA, you need to talk to NA FAms for approval of funds 04:56:11 +1 04:56:12 Talk to inode0 04:56:27 + think about the shipping cost 04:56:27 i dont mind donating 04:56:55 just send me a tshirt a button and a hat 04:56:58 :) 04:57:30 Addition of shipping cost may increase the price of a piece 04:58:02 harish: Thanks for purchasing out the tickets :) 04:58:06 +1 04:58:21 * harish thinks that if we can have a 3D printer at FUDCon, we can make those buttons :-) 04:58:23 * FranciscoD is in the process of getting the visa: Will need to head down to Chennai :/ 04:58:35 good that you've gotten the tickets. 04:58:44 :-D 04:58:59 dramsey, are you planning on attending FUDCon KL? 04:59:07 he'd better :P 04:59:22 +1 Harish 04:59:25 eof 04:59:27 goog 04:59:30 good 04:59:33 * udinnet just got thr visa 04:59:46 udinnet, good to know 05:00:04 visa was approved for 3 months :D 05:00:17 i am organzing the hotel stay to be paid by Red Hat directly. 05:00:17 * FranciscoD is jealous of udinnet 05:00:34 FranciscoD: XD 05:00:54 free shipping 05:01:04 delivery to my house may 11 05:01:10 VICODAN, that generally would be within the US 05:01:11 9 business day shipping 05:01:14 yes 05:01:23 VICODAN_: i fail to understand how this is relevant to APAC :) 05:01:33 ... 05:01:37 Can you explain why this is being brought up in an APAC meeting? 05:01:46 where are you located? 05:01:57 NA, right? 05:02:01 yes 05:02:27 * harish frankly that does not matter. we are borderless for most things except for those that involve atoms :-) 05:02:27 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings 05:02:32 So, you intend to buy these on our behalf and mail them to us? 05:02:40 thinking about it. 05:03:07 VICODAN_: International courier will really increase the costs. It's why we don't send things around our regions much 05:03:17 yeah 05:03:18 that would be most kind of you VICODAN 05:03:25 i understand 05:03:28 im in california 05:03:39 and i can ship via usps 05:03:44 There are also taxes etc to consider 05:03:51 It's not simple really 05:03:57 * udinnet needs to go to the breakfast 05:03:59