14:01:13 <bcotton> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
14:01:13 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Apr 16 14:01:13 2012 UTC.  The chair is bcotton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:01:23 <bcotton> #meetingname Fedora Docs
14:01:23 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
14:01:29 <bcotton> #topic Roll Call
14:02:09 <randomuser> good morning, ben
14:02:23 * pkovar is here
14:02:34 <bcotton> good morning
14:04:37 <bcotton> #topic Release Notes
14:04:48 <bcotton> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule
14:07:43 * Capesteve waves
14:07:47 <bcotton> anything on RN?
14:08:02 <pkovar> Capesteve: hi there
14:08:14 <bcotton> i think we're in good shape until closer to the GA release
14:09:14 <bcotton> #topic Guide Status
14:09:22 <bcotton> #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html
14:10:17 <bcotton> #info it appears POTs are due to translation by next Monday
14:10:49 <bcotton> #info Live Images Guide and Burning ISOs have been updated for F17
14:11:07 <bcotton> any other guide-type updates?
14:11:47 <randomuser> if we can take a step back for a moment, i want to throw out a RN comment
14:12:17 <randomuser> because I might not follow up on it if left to my own devices
14:12:25 <bcotton> sure, go ahead
14:13:00 <bcotton> #topic Release Notes redux
14:13:15 <randomuser> in F17, user mounted media will be mounted under /run/media/$USER/device instead of /media
14:14:19 <randomuser> not really a procedural thing, but I intended to follow up on inclusion and already neglected to, so there you are
14:14:49 <jjmcd> sorry late - was distracted
14:15:11 <bcotton> jjmcd: no worred, welcome
14:15:24 <bcotton> randomuser: so we need to add that as an RN item, is that what you're saying?
14:15:34 * randomuser nods
14:16:07 <jjmcd> randomuser, that is a good catch
14:16:53 <bcotton> randomuser: is there a bug open for it?
14:17:28 <randomuser> not that i'm aware of
14:18:23 <bcotton> randomuser: want to be volunteered to open said bug?
14:18:26 <randomuser> there's a semi-related bug, #722712, for those interested in the behavior of automounted volume
14:18:54 <randomuser> you want me to file a bug against the pre-released release notes?
14:19:08 <bcotton> or just edit the RN :-)
14:19:21 <jjmcd> either will work
14:19:24 <randomuser> :)
14:19:38 <randomuser> i've only learned how to edit the guides
14:19:42 <randomuser> but, point taken
14:20:04 <jjmcd> Only thing with RN is to edit the master branch
14:20:09 <bcotton> i just don't want the ball to get dropped.
14:20:19 <claneys> hi
14:20:52 <randomuser> ok, i'll take care of it one way or another, and i'll ask for guidance in -docs as needed
14:21:01 <bcotton> randomuser: you're awesome
14:21:25 <bcotton> #action randomuser to file a bug against RN for user-mounted media or just add the content
14:21:43 <jjmcd> Give me a couple pings if you need me so I hear the beep.  I'll be here excape wednesday
14:22:04 <randomuser> thanks jjmcd
14:22:15 <bcotton> jjmcd: since you're here, anything else to say on RN?
14:22:24 <jjmcd> s/excape/except
14:22:46 <jjmcd> Not really, do have something on Tech Notes at end prolly best
14:23:37 <bcotton> okay
14:23:54 <bcotton> do we need to return to the topic of guides, or can we move along?
14:25:22 <bcotton> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets
14:25:35 <bcotton> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:26:43 <bcotton> yes, we still have bugs
14:26:46 <bcotton> movnig along...
14:26:47 <bcotton> #topic Open floor discussion
14:26:55 <bcotton> jjmcd: the floor is yours
14:26:57 <jjmcd> OK, Tech Notes
14:27:18 <jjmcd> Someone (I don't remember who) wanted to learn how to do the tech notes but somehow we dropped it
14:27:24 <jjmcd> Beta is a good excuse
14:27:38 <jjmcd> We really don't need a beta tech notes but it would be nice to have
14:27:40 <randomuser> jjmcd, you and I were discussing the tech notes
14:27:47 <jjmcd> Ahhh, OK
14:27:58 <jjmcd> Well, with beta coming up, it is a good excuse
14:28:06 <jjmcd> It's pretty easy, just different
14:28:18 <jjmcd> Heavily automated
14:28:38 <jjmcd> Are we still on for beta tomorrow?
14:28:55 <jjmcd> Or have I missed a schedule slip
14:29:22 <bcotton> last i heard, we're on. rbergeron?
14:30:00 <jjmcd> randomuser, if you are still up for it, we could do something tomorrow or Thursday.  I'm out of town Wednesday.
14:30:22 <randomuser> jjmcd, let's plan for tomorrow pm?
14:30:35 <jjmcd> good deal - what's your timezone?
14:30:39 <randomuser> MST
14:30:45 <jjmcd> OK, cool
14:31:16 <jjmcd> I should be around between 11A and 4P your time
14:31:47 <pkovar> guys, who is planning to attend the open help conference? looks like a great opportunity to have a fedora-gnome session and a chance to talk to other doc teams
14:31:49 <randomuser> hmm
14:31:54 <pkovar> anybody interested? esp. our north american contributors?
14:31:55 <jjmcd> I have a phone conf in the evening
14:32:08 <jjmcd> But it should be over around 7P your time
14:32:38 <bcotton> jjmcd: does that cover your TN topic?
14:32:39 <randomuser> jjmcd, ok - i'll do $DAYJOB early if possible, but after 7P would be more reliable
14:32:52 <jjmcd> I'll be off IRC in the early evening
14:32:59 <pkovar> okey, sorry for jumping in :-)
14:33:08 <jjmcd> Need to reboot this silly thing to Windoze for that conf :-((
14:33:36 <bcotton> #topic Open Help Conference
14:33:55 <bcotton> pkovar: thanks for the reminder. nobdoy put it on the agenda. do you have a #link?
14:34:16 <jjmcd> I went to that in 2010, good chance to meet folks from other projects
14:34:22 <pkovar> wait a sec
14:34:28 <jjmcd> But I have more than enough travel planned
14:34:48 <pkovar> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2012-April/014169.html
14:35:26 <bcotton> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2012-April/014169.html
14:36:13 <bcotton> #info Open Help Conference is Aug 11-15 in Cincinnati, OH
14:36:26 <randomuser> i can't go, pkovar , but i would be interested to hear about discussions of the pan-project style guide
14:37:10 <Capesteve> is that Petr-Pan?
14:37:20 <bcotton> boo
14:37:34 <Capesteve> PPP=Petr-Pan-Project
14:37:52 <jjmcd> It's driving distance for me, but I have too many hotels in my future unless RH wants to foot the bill.  But I would rather see someone else represent us.
14:38:57 <bcotton> i'd like to go. maybe i can talk the mrs into making that our anniversary trip :-)
14:39:02 <pkovar> randomuser: fwiw, fnadge leads the  pan-project style guide effort
14:39:16 <jjmcd> The Queen City is actually pretty nice
14:39:18 * randomuser takes a mental note
14:39:21 <pkovar> he just left
14:40:03 <jjmcd> bcotton, some really great restaurants, and there is a big amusement park just outside the city
14:40:15 <jjmcd> don't remember the name
14:41:19 <jjmcd> plus shaunm is good at knowing the best places to drink
14:41:45 <pkovar> jjmcd: hehe
14:41:46 <bcotton> i'll be the judge of that :-)
14:42:31 * jjmcd did his first public presentation at a DECUS in Cinci many moons ago
14:42:38 <pkovar> all right, good to see people are interested
14:44:08 <bcotton> any thing else on the OHC?
14:44:21 <Southern_Gentlem> kings island
14:44:33 <jjmcd> Southern_Gentlem, that's the one
14:46:02 <bcotton> any other topics for open floor discussion?
14:47:23 <bcotton> okay, well thanks to everyone!
14:47:25 <bcotton> #endmeeting