04:01:44 <tuanta> #startmeeting 04:01:44 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Mar 24 04:01:44 2012 UTC. The chair is tuanta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:01:44 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:01:52 <tuanta> #meetingname APAC 04:01:52 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 04:01:59 <tuanta> #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:02:03 <tuanta> .fas tuanta 04:02:04 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com> 04:02:19 <dramsey> :) 04:02:20 <tuanta> #chair hanthana dramsey 04:02:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: dramsey hanthana tuanta 04:02:21 <dramsey> .fas dramsey 04:02:22 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com> 04:02:40 <hanthana> .fas snavin 04:02:40 <zodbot> hanthana: snavin 'Danishka Navin' <danishka@gmail.com> 04:03:13 <dramsey> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-03-24#Agenda 04:03:58 <dramsey> No Buddhike, today. 04:04:23 <tuanta> yes 04:04:43 <tuanta> and we are also missing others a lot 04:04:43 <dramsey> Who's here today? 04:05:01 <tuanta> just three of us, up to now 04:05:10 <tuanta> should we wait or move on now? 04:05:15 <dramsey> True. 04:05:36 <tuanta> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting 04:05:49 <dramsey> We could wait or move forward til others show? 04:06:31 <arifiauo> .fas arifiauo 04:06:32 <zodbot> arifiauo: arifiauo 'Arif Tri Waluyo' <arifiauo@gmail.com> 04:06:47 <tuanta> #chair arifiauo 04:06:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: arifiauo dramsey hanthana tuanta 04:07:22 <tuanta> we had 4 action items last meeting 04:07:26 <dramsey> True. 04:07:37 <tuanta> I got #4 done 04:08:06 <dramsey> I see updates on Second, #2, after creation earlier in January 4th to March 14th, update 04:08:27 <dramsey> Second will be going until June 04:08:35 <tuanta> yes 04:08:47 <tuanta> #3 should be continuously gone 04:08:48 <dramsey> #3, is up. 04:08:51 <dramsey> +1 04:09:04 <dramsey> Cool 8-) 04:09:11 <dramsey> How about First, #1? 04:11:15 <tuanta> no Buddikha here, then I am not sure 04:11:19 <arifiauo> there is still debate between us and famsco about make it happen. 04:11:40 <dramsey> True, so an "open?" action item. 04:11:43 <tuanta> arifiauo, thanks 04:11:45 <dramsey> #4 is done 04:11:54 <dramsey> +1 arifauo 04:12:08 <dramsey> #1, #2, and #3 ongoing? 04:12:21 <dramsey> Does that sound correct everyone? 04:12:21 <tuanta> #action all APAC FAms, please have a look on APAC trac proposal and comment (apac ticket #20) 04:12:48 <tuanta> yes, they should be reminded for next meetings 04:12:55 <arifiauo> +! 04:13:23 <dramsey> Cool 04:13:28 <tuanta> but I think we do not need to add them into action items 04:13:37 <tuanta> those are ongoing tasks 04:13:40 <dramsey> Okay. Only First, then 04:13:51 <dramsey> Next topic, then? 04:13:55 <dramsey> Excellent 04:13:59 <tuanta> +1 dramsey 04:14:02 <tuanta> #topic FUDCon need-discussed items 04:14:14 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tuanta/FUDCon_KL_2012_BoF_discussion 04:14:56 <tuanta> as the last meeting, I created this wiki to list all things need to be discussed face to face in the next FUDCon KL 04:14:57 <arifiauo> ! 04:15:04 <tuanta> please, arifiauo 04:15:14 <arifiauo> on last Wednesday, whether famasco not have a meeting? 04:15:49 <tuanta> exactly, that has been postponed 04:16:00 <tuanta> no one attended 04:16:44 <tuanta> I see FAmSCo members from APAC are not very active 04:16:57 <arifiauo> why can happen in times like these. 04:17:08 <tuanta> what you would like to say, arifiauo? 04:18:36 <arifiauo> I just want to say, why are they so? what should we do to keep the plan running? 04:18:37 <tuanta> I can not understand why it is :( 04:19:24 <tuanta> I think you can bring this to the mailing list 04:19:46 <tuanta> it's better place to discuss this thing 04:20:07 <tuanta> back to our current topic 04:20:14 <dramsey> +1 04:20:19 <arifiauo> +1 04:20:49 <tuanta> have you got any more ideas, comments or questions to the things need to be discussed face-to-face in FUDCon KL 04:20:50 <tuanta> ? 04:21:05 <tuanta> see the wiki and make your comments 04:21:12 <dramsey> ! 04:21:18 <dramsey> +1 04:21:42 <dramsey> With today's current four IRC members who is going? 04:21:52 <tuanta> please dramsey 04:21:59 <dramsey> Thank you, Tuan. :) 04:22:07 <dramsey> I hope to go. 04:22:12 <dramsey> Anyone else? 04:22:15 <tuanta> what do you mean, dramsey? 04:22:55 <dramsey> At today's meeting, arifauo, hanthana, Tuan tuanta, and dramsey, who is going? 04:23:04 <dramsey> to FUDCon KL. 04:23:20 <tuanta> you mean who will go to FUDCon KL? 04:23:26 * hanthana is going to FUDcon KL 04:23:26 <dramsey> +1, yes 04:23:49 <tuanta> I am waiting for my fund request approved. 04:24:00 <tuanta> and you, dramsey? 04:24:10 <tuanta> I don't see your request on trac? 04:24:10 <dramsey> I hope to go. 04:24:26 <tuanta> do don't need to request for funds? 04:24:30 <dramsey> I just got to a laptop, today, was in transit 04:24:46 <dramsey> Where will you both be staying? 04:25:09 <tuanta> anyway, everyone should attend the APAC ams f2f session in FUDCon via IRC 04:25:10 <arifiauo> I was not having a meaningful contribution, so I will not go. 04:25:32 <tuanta> dramsey, you mean the hotel? 04:25:49 <dramsey> Yup. and arifauo, could try to attend or at least inquire. 04:25:55 <tuanta> I don't know. organizer is arranging, I think 04:26:19 <dramsey> +1 Tuan, tuanta thank you. 04:26:22 <dramsey> eof for me 04:26:52 <tuanta> so, please take some times to contribute to the wiki I posted 04:27:30 <dramsey> +1 04:27:43 <dramsey> Is that like a #info, #idea, #action or fyi? 04:27:50 <tuanta> #action all contribute to the wiki https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tuanta/FUDCon_KL_2012_BoF_discussion to prepare for one of the most interest sessions in FUDCon KL 04:27:55 <dramsey> +1 04:28:05 <tuanta> thanks, next? 04:28:09 <arifiauo> +1 04:28:13 <dramsey> I know we show our strongest APAC Team support to help promote the FUDCon APAC 2012. 04:28:16 <dramsey> +1 next 04:28:32 <tuanta> +1 dramsey 04:28:36 <tuanta> #topic APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey) 04:28:44 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY12_Q1_.28March_2012_-_May_2012.29 04:28:59 <dramsey> Akihabara for me next week. eof 04:29:09 <tuanta> I will have 2-3 parties along Vietnam, in Hanoi, HCMC or Hue 04:29:19 <dramsey> +1 04:29:58 <tuanta> one in Hanoi will be held in the new Vietnam FOSS Community Space (located in my office too) 04:30:27 <tuanta> cool, dramsey. I see you will organize a series of events 04:30:54 <dramsey> You, too Tuan - tuanta. ;) I think arifauo, doing event could inquire on FUDCon KL attendance, very close to location. ;) 04:31:05 <tuanta> I will update the event wiki and the add them into the wiki list 04:31:44 <arifiauo> I had one event(Surakarta release party), and have a file to famsco trac. 04:31:53 <arifiauo> +1 dramsey ;) 04:32:34 <tuanta> #action tuanta update all F17 release party wiki and add them into the common list https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events 04:33:08 <tuanta> cool, arifiauo. you should update the wiki 04:33:20 <tuanta> another action item? 04:33:36 <dramsey> Not that I know of. 04:34:10 <tuanta> then next now? 04:34:18 <dramsey> +1 next 04:34:21 <arifiauo> tuanta, I already have 04:34:32 <tuanta> arifiauo, do you need any support? 04:34:42 <tuanta> funds, swags, etc. 04:35:17 <arifiauo> I need funds. 04:35:25 <tuanta> yes, I see your event: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F17_Surakarta 04:35:39 <tuanta> have you sent a request for fund on trac? 04:35:40 <arifiauo> and I already file a ticket to famsco. 04:35:49 <arifiauo> ticket #275 04:36:23 <tuanta> arifiauo, it's fine. but it maybe better if you file that ticket in apac Trac, I think 04:36:37 <tuanta> dramsey, have you got any idea on this? 04:36:51 <dramsey> Yup 04:37:08 <dramsey> Sounds like an action / info for FAmSCo or as you say, APAC 04:37:12 <arifiauo> that advice from kaio, in order to famsco. 04:37:12 <dramsey> Hi Buddhike 04:37:18 <dramsey> #chair bckurera 04:37:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: arifiauo bckurera dramsey hanthana tuanta 04:37:22 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ 04:37:36 <bckurera> hello Dramsey 04:37:48 <arifiauo> hi bckurera :) 04:37:49 <bckurera> sorry I am late 04:37:56 <tuanta> hi bckurera :) 04:38:12 <bckurera> hello all FAms, I am at en event in University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka :) 04:38:13 <tuanta> we are discussing about APAC trac 04:38:25 <tuanta> have you got any ideas on that? 04:38:25 <bckurera> waiting to talk about Fedora and GSoC with Fedora 04:38:53 <tuanta> I think, all requests ( for funds, wags, etc.) in APAC should be managed in APAC trac 04:39:12 <bckurera> +1 04:39:19 <tuanta> in the future, they should not be posted to FAmSCo trac anymore 04:39:30 <bckurera> ! 04:39:37 <tuanta> bckurera, please 04:39:49 <bckurera> Totally agree with you tuanta 04:39:59 <arifiauo> should I file a ticket to apac trac? 04:40:08 <bckurera> we can take the dicision ourselves, harish will help us to manage the budget 04:40:09 <tuanta> no, arifiauo 04:40:21 <tuanta> it could make confused 04:40:24 <bckurera> sorry I cannot provide links today, bit busy 04:40:25 <bckurera> eof 04:40:33 <arifiauo> ok 04:40:35 <tuanta> thanks bckurera 04:40:46 <tuanta> arifiauo, next times 04:40:51 <arifiauo> +1 04:41:11 <bckurera> arifiauo, nice to see you ! 04:41:12 <tuanta> you should leave it in famsco trac at this time 04:41:54 <tuanta> my question is: who (person, team) is managing the APAC trac? 04:42:45 <bckurera> ! 04:43:00 <tuanta> like in FAmSCo trac, FAmSCo member will discuss on each ticket and approve/reject them 04:43:06 <tuanta> bckurera, please 04:43:11 <bckurera> in this case 04:43:35 <bckurera> as i noted not one person take the decision but we all make the decicion in the meeting 04:43:50 <tuanta> +1 bckurera 04:43:51 <bckurera> I, myself att tickets to the agenda and make sure every ticket get care 04:44:04 <tuanta> that's good idea 04:44:14 <bckurera> the person must talk for the ticket and present at the meeting 04:44:21 <tuanta> but we need this permission to be granted, I think 04:44:25 <hanthana> what was wrong with the FAmSCo trac? 04:44:34 <bckurera> otherwise will discuss about the ticket in the next meeting when the reqestor presentes 04:44:55 <bckurera> Please refer to the past meetings ! 04:45:02 <bckurera> eof 04:45:13 <tuanta> hanthana, FAmSCo should focus on other tasks. we can take care our work ourselves better 04:45:26 <hanthana> hm 04:45:29 <hanthana> tuanta, ok 04:45:33 <bckurera> NA and EMEA is doing same, cwickert also agree with this idea 04:45:41 <tuanta> +1 bckurera 04:45:53 <bckurera> thanks and eof 04:46:11 <tuanta> that could get APAC community stronger 04:46:19 <dramsey> +1 04:46:23 <arifiauo> +1 04:46:27 <dramsey> ! idea for food for thought 04:46:37 <tuanta> anyone who need support from APAC, they should join into the IRC meeting 04:46:45 <tuanta> use mailing list, trac, etc. 04:46:52 <bckurera> +1000 04:47:02 <tuanta> we can get the community communication better 04:47:17 <hanthana> was it the only challenge to the APAC? 04:47:21 <tuanta> dramsey :) 04:48:12 <bckurera> hanthana , we have lot, need to address all, but gradually, I think ! 04:48:13 <dramsey> thank you, Tuan. tuanta, I think if and when this occurs, that a survey of the meeting time to address trac issues be done. Since the timeframe will cover a very large range of timezones. 04:48:16 <tuanta> #idea anyone who need support from APAC, they should join into the IRC meeting, use mailing list, trac, etc. that would get communication in community better 04:48:48 <tuanta> #action tuanta add that above idea into things need to be discussed f2f wiki 04:48:58 <dramsey> eof 04:49:05 <tuanta> +1 dramsey 04:49:37 <tuanta> we are in Open Floor, I see :) 04:49:43 <tuanta> #topic Open Floor 04:49:57 <dramsey> ! 04:50:04 <tuanta> dramsey, please 04:50:10 <dramsey> #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html 04:50:25 <dramsey> FAmSCo "should" be "FAmSCo heads Ambassador Wide Meetings Preparing For Fedora 17" 04:50:38 <dramsey> as well as 3.4,5,6,7. 04:50:39 <dramsey> eof 04:50:48 <dramsey> s/3/ 04:51:00 <dramsey> eof 04:51:21 <tuanta> they missed the deadline 04:51:26 <tuanta> thanks for your reminder 04:51:40 <tuanta> I think we should remind this onto the mailing list 04:51:53 <tuanta> you will take this action, dramsey? 04:51:54 <hanthana> tuanta, +1 04:52:19 <dramsey> I think someone from FAmSCo should read our logs. 04:52:33 <dramsey> I am sure someone does. 04:52:34 <arifiauo> +! 04:52:34 <dramsey> eof 04:52:53 <arifiauo> +1 04:53:02 <dramsey> We could do a #info and reference the #info 04:53:02 <dramsey> eof 04:53:11 <arifiauo> but we still need remind them 04:53:14 <tuanta> #action dramsey send a remind to the mailing list for FAmSCo to head Ambassador Wide Meetings Preparing For Fedora 17 as listed in http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html 04:54:22 <tuanta> dramsey, I really want to see you in FUDCon KL :) 04:54:30 <tuanta> please do not miss it 04:54:42 <dramsey> Sending "Beefy Miracle" Energy to your computers now. :) 04:55:27 <tuanta> anything else, my friends? 04:55:46 <dramsey> ! 04:55:54 <tuanta> please, dramsey 04:56:10 <dramsey> may be for after the meeting. I read a review of a hotel. 04:56:12 <dramsey> eof 04:56:48 <tuanta> hotel should be already arranged by organizer, I think 04:56:51 <dramsey> thank you all for attending and Tuan chairing 04:56:56 <dramsey> True 04:57:06 <dramsey> It is a funny review... 04:57:08 <tuanta> you just need to check air flight information and open a request for funds 04:57:08 <dramsey> eof 04:57:13 <tuanta> I love this meeting. a lot of information, but still in time. 04:57:19 <dramsey> +1 04:57:31 <dramsey> eof and end meeting? 04:57:31 <tuanta> thanks all for your attending 04:57:36 <dramsey> +1 04:57:42 <arifiauo> +1 04:57:42 <dramsey> thank you Tuan 04:57:44 <tuanta> yes, we can end the meeting now 04:57:54 <tuanta> see you next week 04:57:59 <tuanta> #endmeeting