03:59:03 #startmeeting 03:59:03 Meeting started Sat Mar 17 03:59:03 2012 UTC. The chair is tuanta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:59:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 03:59:18 #meetingname APAC 03:59:18 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 03:59:38 #topic Ambassador Pinging 03:59:43 * KageSenshi pauses coding 03:59:45 .fas izhar 03:59:45 .fas dramsey 03:59:45 .fas tuanta 03:59:46 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 03:59:50 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 03:59:54 .fas suresht 03:59:55 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 03:59:56 .fas udinnet 03:59:58 Suresh: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' 04:00:02 udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' 04:00:04 .fas bckurera 04:00:06 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 04:00:13 .fas zerng07 04:00:17 zerng07: zerng07 'Cheng-Chia Tseng' 04:00:23 #chair dramsey KageSenshi Suresh udinnet bckurera harish-mobile zerng07 04:00:24 Current chairs: KageSenshi Suresh bckurera dramsey harish-mobile tuanta udinnet zerng07 04:00:25 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-03-17#Agenda 04:00:32 thanks udinnet 04:00:40 that's our today agenda 04:00:53 hope you are all well today! 04:01:00 +1 04:01:10 +1 04:01:22 +1 from me too 04:01:49 anyone else? should we next to the main topics? 04:02:01 next topic pls 04:02:02 Move forward 04:02:04 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:02:30 I see, famsco has been more active recently 04:02:44 hi inode0 04:03:36 great to see you, mether 04:03:52 is there any famsco available today? 04:03:53 new election rules discussion 04:03:54 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_talk:Cwickert/Proposed_FAmSCo_election_rules 04:04:07 yes, I see 04:04:07 tuanta, good to see you too 04:04:14 #chair mether 04:04:14 Current chairs: KageSenshi Suresh bckurera dramsey harish-mobile mether tuanta udinnet zerng07 04:04:14 please make your comments 04:04:40 hi mether 04:06:42 any more news from famsco? 04:06:50 or next? 04:07:02 nwxt 04:07:05 #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting 04:07:24 * udinnet having network problems 04:07:54 ! 04:08:18 please, bckurera 04:08:23 thanks 04:08:35 I have added the action items to the agenda 04:08:53 and cross the items which has been done and complete 04:08:53 please have a look 04:09:07 things which are not yet completed can be added again 04:09:36 Action item #4 should be re-added 04:10:17 action item #9 , I have ping(sent a mail) gbraad and waiting for an reply 04:10:21 ok 04:10:47 waiting info for action item #8 04:10:50 eof 04:11:29 bckurera, I remember that kaio posted that idea to the list 04:11:59 AFAIK suresh opened a ticket on the FAmSCo trac 04:12:13 suresh : any update? 04:12:20 +1 bckurera 04:12:28 yes it's goin on 04:13:06 lets give me some time. 04:14:00 I am looking for that thread, but I have not got it 04:14:11 #269 04:14:29 .ticket 269 04:14:31 Suresh: #269 (SSO / SSL Auth) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/269 04:14:49 .famsco 269 04:14:49 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/269 04:14:59 ;) 04:15:12 +1 04:15:19 +1 04:15:25 thanks Suresh 04:15:30 i will finished one i spoken to marketing team and specially with inode0 eof 04:15:31 .fas azneita 04:15:32 azneita: dona 'dona marie grace' - azneita '' 04:15:43 #chair azneita 04:15:43 Current chairs: KageSenshi Suresh azneita bckurera dramsey harish-mobile mether tuanta udinnet zerng07 04:15:49 hi azneita 04:15:56 hi guys 04:16:01 +1 04:16:10 yo azneita 04:16:14 :) 04:16:27 please go on, i'll catch up with ^^ 04:17:09 azneita: Are you coming to FUDCon KL? 04:17:25 anything else about previous action items? 04:17:36 move forward 04:17:46 #7 done by me, eof 04:17:52 we should save time to focus on FUDCon KL, I think 04:17:56 still checking with my managers 04:17:58 +1000 04:18:00 thanks dramsey 04:18:07 #topic A proposal to make APAC more centralized (eg: trac..) 04:18:21 ! 04:18:30 please, bckurera 04:18:49 * azneita remembers a time where the idea was to decentralize everything 04:18:50 This is an action item #5 from the last meeting 04:19:06 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/20 04:19:15 please feel free to comment 04:19:38 if any further clarification is needed or any addition we can discuss it now! 04:19:39 eof 04:19:54 I believe that we must centralize one APAC 04:20:20 it's funny because at that time i harbor the same sentiments 04:20:21 ! 04:20:26 and still do btw 04:20:42 #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-March/019219.html 04:20:58 todos here is just to merge the trac, right? 04:21:15 Yup that is right 04:21:55 ! wants to read bckurera's thought. 04:22:12 actually merging is not that important, making India trac read-only would suffice 04:22:42 however making such change is not worth if we do not use the trac effectively 04:23:01 therefore we have to use the trac and discuss tickets in the meetings and approve them 04:23:13 so that Harish can proceed with payments 04:23:43 same procedure is practiced by NA FAms 04:23:49 thanks inode0 for sharing the ideas 04:23:50 +1 bckurera 04:24:03 ! 04:24:16 therefore if any one from APAC need swags or funds just open a ticket at apac trac 04:24:31 will discuss it on the meeting 04:24:51 Harish will help us to manage the budget 04:25:04 that is the proposal 04:25:04 eof 04:25:17 ! 04:25:44 please dramsey, then udinnet :) 04:25:51 I wonder whether centralized will create problems from the future plan to have three FUDCons per year for our region. We are almost 30 minutes into this meeeting, and we must keep moving forward and address the FUDCon KL. eof 04:26:18 +1 dramsey 04:26:30 dramsey, i think not. fudcons are addressed on separate channel fudcon-planning 04:26:52 #action all APAC FAms, please have a look on APAC trac proposal and comment (apac ticket #20) 04:26:57 true, it is the aspect of funding heirarchy in my mind 04:26:59 azneita +1 04:27:04 azneita, we should discuss what we do in/for FUDCon KL in this meeting 04:27:24 fudcons and premier events are distinct and separate from reginal funds 04:27:28 will move then. but please make your comments on the proppsal 04:27:35 consider me reprimanded tuan :) 04:27:40 +1 bckurera 04:27:55 #topic APAC Trac for Regional Support 04:28:13 ! 04:28:24 please bckurera 04:28:43 I have listed ticket #18, 19, 21 for todays meeting 04:28:54 azneita :) 04:29:09 #18 will be served and other tickets are requesting budget 04:29:28 Ticket #19 Support for Taiwan 04:29:37 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/19 04:29:41 Hi, 04:29:51 That's my ticket! 04:29:55 :) 04:30:07 .fas zerng07 04:30:11 azneita: zerng07 'Cheng-Chia Tseng' 04:31:00 you have the floor zerng07 04:31:05 OK. 04:31:10 ! 04:31:22 zerng07: happy to see you ;) 04:31:29 udinnet, please 04:31:38 Thanks tuanta 04:31:40 So what about ankur's ticket? 04:31:47 .famsco 268 04:31:47 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/268 04:31:58 I want to distribute some Fedora Live CDs in Taiwan. 04:32:05 I think it still has no resolution 04:32:05 it is a famsco business udinnet 04:32:29 But we can have some suggestions 04:32:40 eof 04:32:47 ! 04:32:47 yeah soon the infra support it will be resolved ! 04:32:51 zerng07, sorry i don't have access to trac right now, what's your timetable? 04:33:17 dramsey, please 04:33:19 zerng07, which version of Fedora Live CDs and by when? 04:33:23 eof 04:33:23 I plan a release party on 5/20. 04:33:24 bckurera: cool 04:33:28 F17 04:33:51 zerng07, F17 would be released in early of May, 04:33:51 So if F17 is not delayed, I should have enough time to make them. 04:33:51 zerng07, that can be incorporated with the upcming swag production then 04:34:14 OK. 04:34:18 ! 04:34:26 bckurera, please 04:34:49 zerng07 , i think producing locally would be a good solution 04:34:53 eof 04:35:01 +1 bckurera 04:35:04 Thanks, bckurera. 04:35:20 ! 04:35:24 ! 04:35:33 Because addition of shipping cost will be a problem 04:35:34 bckurera, agreed. i'm more of thinking along the line sof the numbers coming int reginal numbers 04:35:45 +1 04:35:50 +1 04:36:07 +1 all. APAC is not the same as other regions 04:36:17 +1 04:36:19 +1 04:36:21 +1 04:36:23 shipping cost among APAC is so high 04:36:27 tuanta, which makes us special 04:36:36 :) 04:36:38 +1 azneita :) 04:36:41 zerng07, x686 and/or x86_64 operating system? 04:36:42 big +1 tuanta 04:36:50 azenita +1 :) 04:36:53 x686 to fit most of the machines. 04:36:54 ! 04:37:17 bckurera, please. 04:37:31 so should we make final decisions for those tickets? 04:37:48 zerng07 : still you dint add the event wiki page , please create one with all the info and then discuss this ticket again 04:37:56 agree? 04:37:58 eof 04:37:59 I have added one. 04:38:00 +1 04:38:09 link? 04:38:16 I meant, do we need to make "agreed" or not in this meeting immediately 04:38:22 wait a minute. 04:38:26 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F17_Taichung 04:38:29 +1 bckurera 04:38:33 zerng07: ;) 04:38:40 we can decide when we have enough information 04:38:53 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F17_Taichung 04:39:01 tuanta if we see the request is reasonable we can agree with it, coz we need to support APAC 04:39:06 Oh, thanks Suressh! 04:39:11 :) 04:39:45 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F17_Taichung 04:39:59 +1, i say go for it zerng07 04:40:07 please update the ticket as well 04:40:08 #agreed 04:40:12 OK. 04:40:15 just comply with the reporting requirements 04:40:16 Requesting USD 187 04:40:21 =1 dramsey 04:40:23 append the link into the tichet? 04:40:28 =/+ 04:40:47 zerng07 yes please 04:40:49 yes zerng07 04:40:58 then can we agree on this ticket? 04:41:01 OK. 04:41:04 +1 04:41:11 +1 bckurera 04:41:36 btw, is this for reimbursement? 04:41:39 #agree Funding ticket #19 04:41:58 yes, azneita 04:42:11 Thanks, everyone! 04:42:13 :) 04:42:14 harish will handle this as soon receipts are produced 04:42:25 OK. 04:42:34 if receipts are in order, you should have no problem 04:42:42 zerng07: you're welcome 04:42:49 shall we move to #21 04:42:58 eof 04:43:18 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/21 04:43:26 its owner is available today? 04:44:02 I think he is not 04:44:03 owner imtiaz , please oing 04:44:04 I think, it's difficult to agree anything if he/she even not attend our regular meeting 04:44:19 tuanta +1 04:44:29 +1 move forward 04:44:49 +1 04:44:55 then will revisit this ticket in the next meeting 04:45:17 yes.. need to make an action item? 04:45:23 #topic APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey) 04:45:37 #info If you want to get your ticket discussed please participate to the meetings 04:45:41 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events 04:46:01 #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html 04:47:57 eof 04:48:05 We should move quickly. Because there are lot more to talk about FUDCon KL 04:48:31 +1 04:48:33 I think KageSenshi is still with us 04:48:39 yep :) 04:48:46 cool :) 04:48:54 #action update all scheduled F17 release parties to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events 04:49:07 KageSenshi, please 04:49:36 tuanta, ? 04:50:01 oh its under this topic 04:50:07 :D 04:50:07 now we should discuss what we should do in/for FUDCon KL 04:50:26 KageSenshi, tell us your ideas. what we need to support more now? 04:50:27 #info fudconkl funding request is open, dateline extended to 27th March 04:50:31 erm 04:50:42 press-release :D 04:51:11 from the meeting with fpl last thursday she asked to buzz the marketing team, as RH might want to be involved in doing the pr 04:51:31 #chair FranciscoD 04:51:31 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Suresh azneita bckurera dramsey harish-mobile mether tuanta udinnet zerng07 04:51:38 sorry I'm late! 04:51:44 * FranciscoD just woke :/ 04:51:50 Hi 04:51:57 site will be launched on 20th, current test site is at http://fedora.my/events/fudconkl-testsite .. inputs are welcomed 04:52:14 #chair kaio_ph 04:52:14 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Suresh azneita bckurera dramsey harish-mobile kaio_ph mether tuanta udinnet zerng07 04:52:28 bckurera, you think theres more designs will be coming for the logo ? 04:52:28 * FranciscoD brb 04:52:37 KageSenshi, plone ftw 04:52:37 +1 KageSenshi 04:52:37 KageSenshi, please focus on what we (APAC ambassadors, in this meeting) can do for you? 04:52:56 tuanta, spread about funding request :) 04:53:02 +1 04:53:13 ok, that's not too difficult :) 04:53:17 already done! :) 04:53:18 tuanta, and once the site is up, spread the news around in your respective countries :) 04:53:23 mark them as #actions 04:53:55 bckurera, or we can add all to a blog post/trac, etc 04:54:04 +1 04:54:13 #action All once the site is up (approx 20th March), please spread the news about fudcon apac in your respective countries :) 04:54:36 +1 KageSenshi 04:54:45 +1 KageSenshi 04:54:56 KageSenshi: I think you should add all in a to-do list 04:54:59 tuanta action helps tracking, IMO , we can blog/ use trac too 04:55:21 ! 04:55:42 ++ 04:55:42 bckurera, a to-do list could help us easier to track 04:55:49 udinnet,please 04:55:51 * KageSenshi wonder what other help that can be done by someone remote .. hurm .. 04:55:56 ok thanks 04:55:58 Ok regarding the air tickets in airasia, they have the promo prices for a small time. That will be a bit of problem when purchasing tickets. Because the prices will be higher than expected at time of purchase. 04:56:07 eof 04:56:16 +1, udinnet 04:56:18 tuanta +1 04:56:29 ! 04:56:47 udinnet, yes, but please pick the cheapest one at your time of purchase :) 04:56:49 this should be update to FPL, FUDCon KL organizers 04:56:52 ! 04:56:54 and sponsors... :) 04:57:04 bckurera, please 04:57:24 i want to bring in as many people as possible , but as everyone know, the budget is limited :) 04:57:38 i dont see an advantage of delaying the deadlinr 04:57:52 so getting a cheapest price would really help 04:57:58 of course we can have a second round 04:58:02 +1 KageSenshi 04:58:09 The flight price I quoted was at special. Not sure how much when it is approved. 04:58:16 we can finish considering requests soon 04:58:17 eof 04:58:26 bckurera: That is a very good idea 04:58:32 Hope approval can be done timely. 04:58:38 so what do you thing KageSenshi ? 04:58:42 bckurera, +1 , i'm thinking of starting the approval process on the next thursday meeting 04:58:50 bckurera, even if we extend to 27th 04:59:01 as .. well .. we already have more than 10 applicants 04:59:10 +1 04:59:17 KageSenshi +100 04:59:40 how about talks? 04:59:50 KageSenshi - Speakers, topics and/or other thoughts requested or feedback needed? 04:59:53 that should be great things to do for FUDCon KL 05:00:12 we have 19 talks @ the moment :) 05:00:12 i will be doing the proper calculations this weekend to get a clearer idea on how many people which we can approve their flights 05:00:53 ! 1h passed 05:00:59 +1 05:01:26 please move forward, then we can continue on mailing list 05:01:28 wrt talks, just keep on submitting :) .. 05:02:03 move fwd then? 05:02:05 any questions you guys want to be answered w.r.t fudconkl ? 05:02:14 if none, then move fwd 05:02:59 +1 05:03:07 I think there are none.. tuanta shall we? 05:03:45 * KageSenshi will need to leave in 30 mins, gotta head out to check out t-shirt prices 05:04:13 next topic please? 05:04:17 +, understood 05:04:18 +1 KageSenshi 05:04:18 now, we have not got enough time to move through all left topics 05:04:19 please see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-03-17#Agenda 05:04:19 and tell me what we should focus on now 05:04:20 next times, I think, we should cut off our agenda to fit in an hour 05:04:23 I think, "Fedora Participation (dramsey as well as others who want to voice their ideas)" is the most interesting topic left 05:04:31 dramsey, are you ready? 05:04:55 #topic Fedora Participation (dramsey as well as others who want to voice their ideas) 05:04:57 sures, how about the APAC Plans? 05:05:09 +1 tuan 05:05:12 already done and more deatils will be provided in coming weeks ;) 05:05:18 dramsey: ;) 05:05:35 dramsey, time is over. we can move some topic to the next meeting or to the mailing. 05:05:39 Have noticed that LATAM has weekly meetings, think if you like. 05:06:16 +1 we can have weekly meetings until the FUDCon KL? 05:06:26 how about that? 05:06:32 is it too early? 05:06:52 udinnet, not bad. 05:07:07 others? 05:07:07 * FranciscoD wont mind 05:07:27 but yes, we should have agendas for the meetings 05:07:27 FUDCon planning meetings will be held weekly, how about participating them? 05:07:36 bckurera: +1 05:08:04 agenda less meetings are usually a waste :) 05:08:29 FranciscoD: That is ture 05:08:29 dramsey, please come on 05:08:34 your topic 05:08:43 :) 05:08:50 Review the numbers and have your own thoughts. 05:08:51 eof 05:09:16 +1 for weekly mtg until fudcon kl. 05:09:18 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-03-17#Fedora_Participation_.28dramsey_as_well_as_others_who_want_to_voice_their_ideas.29 05:09:22 Hello Harish 05:09:22 bckurera: have we discussed the trac instances yet? 05:09:36 +1 for weekly 05:09:42 +1 for weekly 05:09:49 yes FranciscoD 05:09:53 Ok then so it is :) 05:10:00 #agreed APAC will have weekly meeting until FUDCon KL 2012 05:10:03 its important that we support them as much as we can 05:10:14 bckurera: ah, I should go check the logs then ;) 05:10:46