19:00:44 <rbergeron> #startmeeting Cloud SIG 19:00:44 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Mar 9 19:00:44 2012 UTC. The chair is rbergeron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:44 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:50 <rbergeron> #meetingname Cloud SIG 19:00:50 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'cloud_sig' 19:00:59 <rbergeron> #topic Gathering of the minds and roll call 19:01:04 * mull here 19:01:22 <tdawson_> Here 19:01:35 * jforbes is here 19:01:45 <rbergeron> oh hai! 19:01:59 * kkeithley raises his hand 19:02:38 <mgoldmann> did someone say... meeting? 19:02:45 <rbergeron> BUT OF COURSE 19:02:57 <rbergeron> it's your favorite meeting. 19:02:59 <rbergeron> meating, even. 19:03:24 * kkeithley wonders if he needs to be here 19:03:27 <rbergeron> okay, kids, let's get'er goin, maybe we'll gather some critical mass as we get into things 19:03:40 <rbergeron> kkeithley: not unless you have something you want to talk about. you are free to adjourn :) 19:03:53 <rbergeron> or to hover and look over occasionally for a good chuckle 19:03:54 <kkeithley> adios muchachos 19:03:54 * jforbes is working on non-critical mass (Yay girl scout cookies!) 19:04:01 <rbergeron> jforbes: ooh 19:04:05 <rbergeron> #topic Eucalyptus 19:04:11 <rbergeron> mull: the wheel of fate calls your name first 19:04:17 <mull> woohoo 19:04:32 <rbergeron> though we can talk to mgoldmann and ke4qqq if he's around and i suspect he isn't but i know you guys have all this intersecting FUN STUFF 19:04:41 <mull> so, things are going pretty well, only 5 or 6 packages left which actually need clean-up 19:04:51 <rbergeron> mull: wow, very nice 19:05:01 <mull> but many more need reviews 19:05:03 <mull> :) 19:05:21 <mull> so anybody who has time, feel free to check the eucalyptus wiki page. :) 19:05:37 <mgoldmann> mull: if you have some easy reviews - I can swap for jboss-*-api packages 19:05:50 <mull> mgoldmann, ok, let's do that 19:05:58 <mgoldmann> I can take hard too, but ease for easy :P 19:06:04 <rbergeron> mull: is the wiki/Euca page up-to-date as far as what needs reviews and so forth? 19:06:17 <mull> mgoldmann, the Axis2 deps are easy (woden, neethi, etc.) 19:06:27 <mgoldmann> alright! 19:06:28 <mull> rbergeron, yes 19:06:52 <mull> ok, I need to give my update over in #eucalyptus-meeting now... carry on 19:07:10 <rbergeron> mull: your update is "gregdek needs to pick a better time" ... /me kids 19:07:10 <mgoldmann> haha :) 19:07:37 <rbergeron> #info Euca is very close to having packages done/cleaned-up with only 5 or 6 pkgs left, but many more need reviews 19:08:00 <rbergeron> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Eucalyptus 19:08:20 <rbergeron> #info Things needing review are listed on the Euca wiki page on fp.o and that page is up to date 19:08:38 <rbergeron> #action mull and mgoldmann to swap reviews because they both need them :) 19:08:46 <mgoldmann> badly 19:08:58 <rbergeron> #topic AS7 progress 19:09:09 <rbergeron> mgoldmann: is there anything else you want to plug in here about as7 progress? :) 19:09:10 <mgoldmann> hey, that's me! 19:09:15 <rbergeron> sure is, you're awesome 19:09:18 <mgoldmann> A LOT :) 19:09:24 <mgoldmann> watch out, pasting 19:09:24 <mgoldmann> 84 packages in total 19:09:25 <mgoldmann> 59 packages in Rawhide / F17 19:09:25 <mgoldmann> 24 packages in progress 19:09:26 <rbergeron> go for it 19:09:36 <mgoldmann> that's the current progress 19:09:47 <rbergeron> is that like - FULL as7 or bare-bones as7? 19:09:48 <mgoldmann> things are improving with every day 19:09:54 * rbergeron isn't quite sure if there is a difference or not 19:10:00 <mgoldmann> it's almost-web-profile-as-7 19:10:27 <mgoldmann> for the full AS7 we need some more packages and this is plan for F17+ 19:10:28 <mull> I'm glad I didn't track my total from day one 19:11:05 <mgoldmann> we cleared some licensing issues that were blocking about 10 packages 19:11:11 <rbergeron> woo :) 19:11:19 <mull> mgoldmann, is JTA unblocked now? 19:11:24 <mgoldmann> mull: aye! 19:11:27 <rbergeron> #info AS7 has 84 pkgs in total; 59 in rawhide/f17, 24 in progress 19:11:39 <rbergeron> #info cleared licensing issues blocking about 10 pkgs, including JTA 19:11:42 <mgoldmann> rbergeron: I think we'll end up with about 100 packages 19:11:52 <rbergeron> #info will likely end up with about 100pkgs 19:11:55 <spstarr_work> :) 19:12:00 <mgoldmann> so, as you see - we're pretty close 19:12:01 <mgoldmann> :) 19:12:06 <rbergeron> indeed 19:12:09 <spstarr_work> rbergeron: i will give status at end 19:12:14 <rbergeron> light at the end of the tunnel eh :) 19:12:16 <mgoldmann> most important thing is: 19:12:32 <mgoldmann> I was able to deploy my first web app on Fedora JBoss AS 7 :) 19:12:57 <rbergeron> #info mgoldmann was able to deploy his first web app on Fedora / JBoss AS7 :) 19:13:00 <rbergeron> which is awesome 19:13:02 <mgoldmann> this everything makes me feel optimistic about the process 19:13:05 <rbergeron> yes 19:13:09 <rbergeron> i bet! :) 19:13:22 <rbergeron> hard work paying off in a visible way other than a shrinking number of packages :) 19:13:31 <mgoldmann> more - I'll have some additional help on packaging which should speed the process abit again 19:13:41 <rbergeron> mgoldmann: orly 19:13:47 <mgoldmann> aye :) 19:14:08 <rbergeron> alrighty then 19:14:24 <rbergeron> anything else? /me will move on otherwise 19:14:24 <mgoldmann> I'm also planning with Carlo to run TCK test on the resulting RPM 19:14:37 <mgoldmann> so we'll be sure that what we ship is "certified" 19:14:46 <mgoldmann> in other words - is what it really should be :) 19:14:51 <rbergeron> very cool 19:15:15 <rbergeron> #info also planning with carlo to run TCK test on the resulting RPM, so that what is shipped is "certified" - ie: it is what it really should be :) 19:15:19 <rbergeron> awesome. 19:15:23 <rbergeron> Okay 19:15:26 * rbergeron will plow ahead 19:15:29 <mgoldmann> sure 19:15:31 <rbergeron> #topic OpenStack 19:15:39 <rbergeron> russellb: tag! 19:16:38 <russellb> hi! 19:16:56 <rbergeron> have anything interesting to shrae? :) 19:16:59 <rbergeron> share 19:17:00 <rbergeron> rather 19:17:09 <russellb> yesterday we had a test day: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-08_OpenStack_Test_Day 19:17:36 <russellb> and even though the day is "over", the instructions are still a nice way to get started with OpenStack 19:17:47 * rbergeron nods 19:17:51 * rbergeron wonders if she should go end that meeting 19:18:04 <russellb> a number of bugs were filed, some SELinux issues, some integration issues between projects 19:18:10 <rbergeron> LOL 19:18:16 <spstarr_work> NOOO 19:18:20 <spstarr_work> Meeting isnt over... 19:18:33 <rbergeron> #info OpenStack test day is "over" but instructions are still a nice way to get started with openstack 19:18:39 <rbergeron> spstarr_work: in #fedora-test-day? 19:18:57 <rbergeron> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-test-day/2012-03-08/openstack_test_day.2012-03-08-13.08.log.html 19:18:59 <spstarr_work> i will update you on OpenNebula status when we're near end of this meeting 19:19:10 <russellb> Upstream the Essex release is coming along ... RC1 should be out soon 19:19:12 <rbergeron> spstarr_work: i know, i was talking about the end of the meeting log in the test day channel 19:19:17 <spstarr_work> oh *phew* 19:19:18 <spstarr_work> :) 19:19:23 <rbergeron> #info Essex release is coming along, RC1 should be out soon 19:19:25 <russellb> and we're chugging away helping with that 19:19:29 <russellb> so, I guess that's about it 19:19:38 <rbergeron> russellb: how many of you guys rae going to silly valley in april? 19:19:58 <russellb> hm, 5 at least 19:20:14 <rbergeron> okay 19:20:41 <russellb> btw, that quetsion was in reference to the Folsom design summit next month in San Franscisco 19:20:48 <rbergeron> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-08_OpenStack_Test_Day 19:20:51 <rbergeron> yes, it was 19:21:18 <rbergeron> russellb: want to be nice and plug hte log from that test day maybe into the wiki page somewhere (i don't know, might be helpful?) 19:21:27 <rbergeron> :D 19:21:34 <rbergeron> or i can later 19:21:50 <russellb> sure, i can do that 19:22:43 <russellb> anyway, that is all for now 19:23:08 <rbergeron> coo, thanks :) 19:23:16 <rbergeron> #topic AWS/S3 19:23:24 <rbergeron> mdomsch: howdy howdy, if you're still paying attention 19:23:43 <mdomsch> barely 19:24:03 <mdomsch> so, upstream hasn't taken my patches yet, but no comments either 19:24:06 <rbergeron> mdomsch: anything interesting going on with the mirror/s3 stuff at the moment, or not so much? :) 19:24:09 * rbergeron nods 19:24:16 <mdomsch> I'm going to build s3cmd for FI private use 19:24:29 <mdomsch> the server it will run on is bapp01 per yesterday's FI meeting 19:24:49 <mdomsch> however, that server will migrate from rhel5 to rhel6 in 10 days, and I'm OoO until then 19:25:09 <mdomsch> so we won't go live with the mirror until at least 3/19 19:25:55 <mdomsch> that said, the s3sync code seems to work well enough. The md5 checking code is heavyweight on the FI storage back end, but necessary because repodata/* files change content but not names frequently. 19:26:11 <mdomsch> a better solution for that would be welcome 19:26:16 <rbergeron> #info won't be going live with mirror until at least 3/19 due to migrations, OoO stuff 19:26:17 <mdomsch> that's all 19:26:44 <rbergeron> #info s3sync code seems to work well eough; md5 checking code is heavyweight on the FI storage backend, but necessary because repodata/* files change content but not names frequently. better solution welcome. 19:26:54 <rbergeron> #info robyn having keyboard sadness today 19:27:16 <rbergeron> alrighty :) thanks, matt, for continuing to plug away at this 19:27:22 <rbergeron> i almost said chug, but chugging is for beer 19:27:26 <rbergeron> I think 19:27:33 <rbergeron> :D 19:27:42 <rbergeron> #topic OpenNebula 19:27:48 <spstarr_work> We have a package! 19:27:57 <rbergeron> #info THEY HAZ A PACKAGE! 19:28:00 <rbergeron> is it fully done? 19:28:05 <spstarr_work> I'm going to be working on cleaning it up this weekend so I can start using it in my cloud lab @ home :) 19:28:23 <spstarr_work> ive made a lot of changes to it, its currently in mock build testing right now 19:28:29 <spstarr_work> SELinux is OK we didnt run into issues 19:28:47 <rbergeron> #info currently in mock build testing right now; selinux looking okay, not running into issues; spstarr to work on cleaning it up more this weekend 19:29:08 <spstarr_work> I've split up the package so its modular oZones support is not going to be happening sadly since Ruby 1.9.x broke some functionality that isn't fixable since DataMapper hasn't been ported to Ruby 1.9 yet. 19:29:25 <spstarr_work> (and Upstream is getting rid of DataMapper in favour of Active) 19:29:53 * rbergeron nods 19:29:57 <spstarr_work> Once i have the package passing Mock and rpmlint properly will be submitting for reviews this weekend (Sunday), then can get the comps updated 19:30:06 <spstarr_work> i just cant touch the comps stuff until i have a package or... bad things happen 19:30:19 <rbergeron> right 19:30:30 <spstarr_work> then we're done :) 19:30:44 * rbergeron wonders if you're able to update your % complete on your feature page a bit more? :) 19:30:52 <spstarr_work> yes 19:30:54 <spstarr_work> 80% 19:30:55 <spstarr_work> :) 19:31:04 <spstarr_work> 75 -> 80% 19:31:06 * rbergeron notes this applies to mull and mgoldmann as well - any upgrades in % done are welcome on your pages, pretty please 19:31:23 <mgoldmann> rbergeron: I've done this today :) 19:31:29 <spstarr_work> we cant get to 100% until reviews + comps xml change 19:31:31 <rbergeron> mgoldmann: ooh, i haven't looked since this morning 19:31:38 <mgoldmann> np :) 19:31:41 <spstarr_work> so I will have a blocking status RSN 19:32:18 <spstarr_work> I am working in lock-step with upstream so any barriers are being destroyed as they are found 19:32:42 <rbergeron> #info spstarr working closely with upstream 19:32:45 <spstarr_work> see #opennebula :-) 19:32:53 * rbergeron grins 19:33:14 <rbergeron> okay, i'm moving along then 19:33:19 <spstarr_work> although they are in .es timezone so it is more difficult to coordinate we're managing however. 19:33:19 <rbergeron> to... 19:33:21 <rbergeron> hrmmmm 19:33:29 <rbergeron> spstarr_work: yeah, that's always fun :) the time juggle 19:33:33 <spstarr_work> yes 19:33:36 <rbergeron> #topic Open Floor 19:33:53 * russellb starts dancing on the open floor 19:34:36 <rbergeron> russellb: this goes perfect with your music feed on facebook ;) 19:34:47 <rbergeron> dgilmore: are you around 19:34:53 <russellb> i have a music feed on fb? 19:35:19 <rbergeron> russellb: something called turntable shows up in my timeline saying you awesomed something 19:35:27 <russellb> oh, dangit 19:35:29 <nirik> rbergeron: he's off today. 19:35:32 <russellb> i hate it when sites start posting when i don't know it 19:35:33 <rbergeron> nirik: ah 19:36:03 <rbergeron> I keep meaning to check out codingsoundtrack 19:36:08 <nirik> rbergeron: anything I can assist with? 19:36:11 <rbergeron> nirik: thanks for the heads-up 19:36:31 <rbergeron> nirik: no, just wanted to check in on his progress towards EC2/beta/appliance-tools/grub/etc. drama 19:37:40 <rbergeron> i mean unless you have a magical solutions there 19:37:50 <rbergeron> in which case you totally could assist, i would not cry 19:38:17 <nirik> nope. :) I know nothing. ;) 19:38:36 <rbergeron> alrighty 19:38:47 * rbergeron will light the fuse then 19:38:57 <rbergeron> speak now, peeps :) 19:39:47 <jforbes> Oh, one thing 19:40:05 <rbergeron> jforbes: yes? :) 19:40:13 <jforbes> EC2 images for F17 won't work until https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801650 gets fixed 19:41:17 <jforbes> basically glibc fails in x86_64 xen guests 19:41:28 <jforbes> fix is upstream, shouldn't take long to get it into fedora 19:41:33 <rbergeron> so that's breaking things even more than they were broken anyway? 19:41:33 <jforbes> EOF 19:41:56 <rbergeron> #info EC2 images for F17 won't work until https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801650 is fixed (fix is upstream, shouldn't take long to get to Fedora) 19:42:07 <jforbes> rbergeron: well, the previous breakage was process, so we couldnt even tell if the release was broken. 19:42:11 <rbergeron> right 19:42:42 <rbergeron> jforbes: might I be able to wheedle you or rackerhacker to send that in a mail to the mailing list just as an FYI for anyone who might be doing ec2 things as well 19:42:51 <rbergeron> since I know not everyone reads meeting minutes 19:42:53 <jforbes> Sure, I can do that 19:42:56 <rbergeron> despite my efforts to make them beautiful :) 19:43:12 <jforbes> needs more dragons 19:43:12 <rbergeron> #action jforbes to send a quick note re: bz 801650 to the cloud-sig list 19:43:51 <rbergeron> .---. __ 19:43:51 <rbergeron> , / \ \ |||| 19:43:51 <rbergeron> \\\\ |O___O | | \\|||| 19:43:51 <rbergeron> \ // | \_/ | | \ / 19:43:51 <rbergeron> '--/----/| / | |-' 19:43:53 <rbergeron> // // / -----' 19:43:56 <rbergeron> // \\ / / 19:43:59 <rbergeron> // // / / 19:44:01 <rbergeron> // \\ / / 19:44:03 <rbergeron> // // / / 19:44:06 <rbergeron> /| ' / / 19:44:09 <rbergeron> //\___/ / 19:44:11 <rbergeron> // ||\ / 19:44:14 <rbergeron> \\_ || '---' 19:44:16 <rbergeron> /' / \\_.- 19:44:19 <rbergeron> / / --| | 19:44:21 <rbergeron> '-' | | 19:44:24 <rbergeron> '-' 19:44:26 <rbergeron> oh, that's not a dragon 19:44:27 <pingou> \ó/ 19:44:29 <rbergeron> that's a hot dog 19:44:31 <jforbes> heh 19:44:32 <rbergeron> DARNIT 19:44:52 <tdawson_> Slay the Dragon .... err ... Cook the Hot Dog!!! 19:45:03 <rbergeron> exactly. 19:45:10 <rbergeron> Okay, so, closing out now. 19:45:16 <rbergeron> Hope everyone has a lovely weekend :) 19:45:23 * rbergeron holds breath for 2 seconds before closing 19:45:29 <rbergeron> #endmeeting