05:03:20 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
05:03:20 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 23 05:03:20 2012 UTC.  The chair is tagoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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05:03:25 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:03:30 <tagoh> %topic agenda and roll call
05:03:39 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-02-23
05:03:46 <tagoh> hi. time for i18n meeting
05:06:17 <anish_> hi
05:06:20 <paragan> hi
05:06:22 <epico_laptop> hi
05:06:26 <dueno> hi
05:07:16 <fujiwarat> hi
05:08:28 <juhp> hi
05:08:46 <tagoh> okay, let's get started.
05:08:50 <tagoh> #topic F17
05:09:35 <tagoh> as you may know Alpha is ready to go and RC4 has been declared as GOLD
05:09:52 <paragan> nice
05:10:29 <tagoh> would be nice to play with it and catch up any issues earlier if any.
05:10:37 <juhp> yes
05:10:54 <dingyichen> hi
05:11:18 <tagoh> how about our features going on? let's pick up one-by-one again..
05:11:50 <tagoh> paragan, pravins: how about Additional Indic Langs?
05:14:18 <tagoh> jni: how about fonts-tweak-tool?
05:14:32 <paragan> pravins is working on that feature
05:15:02 <paragan> I guess he is going to release updated Lohit fonts today or tomorrow
05:15:11 <tagoh> aha. cool
05:15:19 <epico_laptop> jni is in a local teck talk, and he released 0.0.3 upstream.
05:15:36 <tagoh> epico_laptop: right.
05:15:55 <tagoh> I guess it could be marked as 100% complete now.
05:16:07 * epico_laptop think so.
05:16:59 <tagoh> paragan: is there any remaining tasks except fontconfig?
05:17:06 <tagoh> and fonts
05:17:55 <paragan> no i guess
05:18:07 <paragan> I will update ortho files today
05:18:21 <tagoh> cool
05:18:30 <paragan> tagoh, if Dogri and Bodo languages are using same hi.orth
05:18:47 <paragan> should we just include it or write complete coverage?
05:19:04 <tagoh> better include it I guess.
05:19:22 <paragan> ok
05:19:38 <tagoh> anish_: how about english-typing-booster?
05:19:59 <anish_> it is going very well till now
05:20:15 <anish_> just only one minor bug reported so far
05:21:12 <tagoh> good. what's the tasks to fill in the remaining 10%?
05:21:32 <anish_> fix minor bug
05:21:34 <anish_> :)
05:22:05 <tagoh> is it needed to implement features? or just a bug?
05:22:13 <anish_> just a bug
05:22:49 <tagoh> as we talked about it in the last meeting, you better thinking of bug fixes separately.
05:23:16 <tagoh> then we can bump it to 100% then.
05:23:34 <anish_> sure i marked as 100% completion then
05:23:39 <tagoh> thanks
05:23:44 <anish_> thanks
05:25:10 <tagoh> for IndicUnicode6, does next release of lohit implement the necessary features?
05:26:20 <tagoh> okay, anything else for f17?
05:27:22 <tagoh> docbeats are open. that would be nice to see the updates earlier.
05:28:08 <juhp> what are the main topics to cover there this time?
05:28:42 <juhp> even some initial placeholder text might be a good start to expand on
05:28:50 <tagoh> non-features topic I suppose.
05:29:08 <juhp> yeah, specifically I mean?
05:29:46 <tagoh> for example, that would be good idea to explain the default font changes for Korean?
05:30:25 <juhp> yes
05:30:40 <juhp> maybe some update on ibus too?
05:30:48 <tagoh> yeah, sounds good.
05:32:22 <juhp> epico_laptop, also Zenhei default changed?
05:32:30 <tagoh> good to think about what you've done this time and add it there if it's worth mentioning.
05:32:40 <epico_laptop> juhp: okay, I see.
05:33:44 <juhp> yes!
05:34:14 <juhp> I added 3 bullet points so far as placeholders
05:34:24 <tagoh> thanks!
05:34:31 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
05:34:43 <juhp> feel free to add more and edit if you like
05:35:51 <tagoh> okay, anything else?
05:35:51 <juhp> fujiwarat, if you could add sub-bullets for the main new ibus features/changes that would be helpful :)
05:36:23 <fujiwarat> juhp: ok, i see.
05:36:41 <pravins> hi
05:37:20 <tagoh> pravins: any updates for indic features? :)
05:37:36 <pravins> tagoh: yes, all locales are in FEdora 17 now :)
05:37:52 <tagoh> nice
05:38:08 <pravins> and thanks to for committing ortho patches in fontoconfig upstream, so will not face any problem in that direction as well
05:38:31 <pravins> only releasing lohit with Unicode 6.0 support is remaining, i am going to do it tomorrow
05:38:40 <pravins> so hoping i can change feature to 100% by tomorrow
05:38:46 <tagoh> I see
05:39:14 <tagoh> let's move on then.
05:39:18 <tagoh> #topic Input Methods
05:39:30 <tagoh> any updates and concerns to share?
05:40:00 <anish_> released ibus-hunspell-table for f15,16 and 17
05:40:45 <anish_> right now ,it supports only en-us dictionary
05:41:01 <tagoh> aha
05:42:57 <juhp> anish_, is it going to support more languages later?
05:43:58 <anish_> yes ,i am planning to support all European languages
05:44:04 <juhp> :)
05:44:42 <tagoh> fujiwarat: anything for ibus?
05:45:08 <anish_> :)
05:45:17 <juhp> btw I think i noticed that ibus doesn't enable anthy by default for ja users in F17?
05:45:20 <fujiwarat> Probably I'd like to integrate a new ibus-anthy based on gtk3 next week.
05:45:33 <juhp> or am I wrong?
05:45:49 <tagoh> aha
05:45:53 <juhp> guess I should file a bug
05:46:24 <juhp> could it be so for all langs?
05:46:29 <fujiwarat> juhp: Maybe you're talking about preload-engine.
05:46:36 <juhp> fujiwarat, yes
05:46:39 <juhp> I think
05:47:01 <juhp> seems I have to add anthy each time for a new user in ja
05:47:15 <juhp> is that intentional?
05:47:15 <fujiwarat> yeah, it was removed in ibut 1.5 and I'd like to integrate that feature.
05:47:25 <juhp> I see
05:47:50 <juhp> so currently no defaults IMEs?
05:47:50 <fujiwarat> Probably I think one bug is good.
05:48:07 <juhp> upstream change?
05:48:12 <juhp> ok
05:48:29 <fujiwarat> no default input metods. Currently I added keyboard engines only by default.
05:48:36 <juhp> it is a bit of a regression though but I suppose people can live with it for now
05:48:50 <fujiwarat> agreed
05:48:51 <juhp> fujiwarat, would 1.5 be in f18?
05:49:07 <tagoh> would be nice if we can fix it until beta.
05:49:18 <fujiwarat> Ah, I meant 1.4.99 is nearly equal to 1.5.
05:49:22 <juhp> mm yeah
05:49:31 <juhp> ah right yes
05:49:55 <juhp> misread
05:50:15 <juhp> alright I'll file a bug
05:50:28 <tagoh> okay, anything else for IM?
05:50:30 <juhp> do you plan to fix it for f17?
05:51:17 <fujiwarat> Yes, I'd like to update ibus for those regressions.
05:51:29 <juhp> wonder if Fedora 17 in bugzilla yet?
05:51:33 <juhp> okay nice
05:52:21 <tagoh> juhp: it is.
05:52:26 <fujiwarat> OK, March 20th is the dead line.
05:52:30 <juhp> ah good
05:52:41 <juhp> for Beta changes?
05:52:51 <fujiwarat> yes
05:54:49 <tagoh> okay, better move on.
05:55:02 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:55:08 <tagoh> any updates and concerns to share?
05:56:03 <pravins> tagoh: did you saw discussion regarding liberation fonts font mailing list
05:56:29 <tagoh> pravins: roughly yes.
05:56:33 <pravins> basically request to add Web fonts format in liberation font release
05:56:40 <tagoh> yep
05:57:07 <pravins> he is even requesting to add subpackage -woff  or -eot in liberation package
05:57:21 <pravins> tagoh: juhp do we have any of this kind in Fedora
05:58:33 <tagoh> guess it's new for the font packaging to have different format in the package.
05:58:52 <juhp> are there no webfonts currently in fedora?
05:59:31 <pravins> yeah, i think not, why to have webfonts in OS platform ;)
06:00:49 <tagoh> not that bad to ship the web fonts packages though, particularly for the server variants.
06:01:53 <tagoh> good to discuss for updating the packaging policy and naming guidelines if necessary.
06:02:29 <pravins> tagoh: sure, will do work on it next month
06:02:36 <tagoh> okay
06:03:06 <tagoh> anything else?
06:03:31 <tagoh> for fonts and rendering, or any other topics if we are missing in the agenda.
06:03:50 <pravins> fontconfig may be?
06:04:26 <tagoh> dunno if it could be a topic for our meeting ;)
06:05:13 <pravins> he he, yes agree :)
06:05:29 <tagoh> it could be when new release is out though
06:05:42 <tagoh> anyway
06:06:17 <tagoh> okay, let's stop here then. thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:06:31 <tagoh> #endmeeting