04:03:08 <bckurera> #startmeeting
04:03:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Feb 18 04:03:08 2012 UTC.  The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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04:03:18 <MarkDude> Greetings Suresht dramsey everyone
04:03:22 <bckurera> #meetingname APAC biweekly
04:03:22 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac_biweekly'
04:03:34 <bckurera> #topic Ambassador Pinging
04:03:47 <udinnet> .fas udinnet
04:03:48 <zodbot> udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' <udithabnd@gmail.com>
04:03:52 <bckurera> .fas bckurera
04:03:56 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com>
04:03:59 <Suresht> .fas suresht
04:04:00 <zodbot> Suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' <sureshp8@gmail.com>
04:04:34 <bckurera> bckurera from Sri Lanka using Fedora 15
04:04:35 <MarkDude> .fas markdude
04:04:36 <zodbot> MarkDude: markdude 'Mark Terranova' <mark@gidgetkitchen.org>
04:04:54 <bckurera> anyone else?
04:05:12 <udinnet> where is dramsey ?
04:05:29 <udinnet> I saw him in the list
04:05:30 <bckurera> #chair udinnet Suresht MarkDude
04:05:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: MarkDude Suresht bckurera udinnet
04:05:51 <bckurera> dramsey is out, he will join soon
04:05:59 <udinnet> ok
04:06:04 <bckurera> #topic News from FAmSCo
04:06:21 <bckurera> any news?
04:06:37 <bckurera> I hope others will join with the meeting soon
04:06:57 <bckurera> FAmSCo last meeting minute
04:07:03 <bckurera> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-15/famsco_2012-02-15.2012-02-15-22.00.html
04:07:32 <bckurera> forget to mention first the agenda can be found at
04:07:40 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-02-18#Agenda
04:07:46 <udinnet> +1 bckurera
04:07:51 <bckurera> any ideas?
04:08:57 <bckurera> shall we move then?
04:09:58 <tuanta> hi magie
04:10:03 <bckurera> hello tuanta and magie welcome
04:10:13 <tuanta> hi bckurera et all
04:10:16 <magie> hi, sorry i'm late
04:10:28 <bckurera> we are at the FAmSCo news topic so not too late
04:10:29 <udinnet> hello tuanta  magie
04:10:32 <tuanta> I'm late too, sorry :)
04:10:35 <dramsey> Hi Tuan
04:10:39 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
04:10:39 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
04:10:41 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:10:43 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:10:47 <tuanta> hi dramsey
04:10:48 <magie> .fas magie
04:10:49 <zodbot> magie: magi 'Rafal Magiera' <R.K.Magiera@wsisiz.edu.pl> - geatz87 'Bogusław Magiera' <geatz87@tlen.pl> - magie 'Magie Antonio' <magie@bluepoint.com.ph>
04:10:54 <tuanta> nice to see you all here
04:10:58 <udinnet> great to have you on board guys :)
04:10:58 <bckurera> #chair dramsey tuanta magie
04:10:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: MarkDude Suresht bckurera dramsey magie tuanta udinnet
04:10:59 <born2linux> hello
04:11:06 <born2linux> .fas engels
04:11:07 <zodbot> born2linux: engels 'Engels Antonio' <engels@bluepoint.com.ph>
04:11:17 <udinnet> hello born2linux
04:11:23 <tuanta> where are we now?
04:11:25 * bckurera sees lot APAC FAms now
04:11:30 <born2linux> hi udinnet
04:11:35 <bckurera> #chair born2linux
04:11:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: MarkDude Suresht bckurera born2linux dramsey magie tuanta udinnet
04:11:46 <bckurera> are there any news?
04:11:59 <bckurera> meeting agenda is at
04:12:00 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-02-18#Agenda
04:12:14 <udinnet> So any news?
04:12:22 <bckurera> if not we can move?
04:12:50 <bckurera> move?
04:12:56 <udinnet> dramsey tuanta ?
04:13:02 <Suresht> yes
04:13:27 <udinnet> we can move -->
04:13:30 <bckurera> #topic Meeting Guidelines
04:13:40 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol
04:13:46 <bckurera> just to mention this
04:14:08 <bckurera> please try to adhere to those guidelines so that we can have a nice conversation
04:14:26 <bckurera> any ideas or suggestions?
04:14:31 <bckurera> this is open to discuss
04:14:51 <tuanta> I have no idea
04:15:09 <tuanta> that should be helpful enough, I think
04:15:11 <bckurera> then shall we adopt this for the meeting?
04:15:24 <bckurera> so that one can talk at once
04:15:24 <magie> +1
04:15:39 <bckurera> if anyone wants to talk indicate ! and wait for the turn
04:15:42 <bckurera> agree?
04:15:46 <born2linux> +1
04:15:51 <MarkDude> +1
04:16:11 <bckurera> great, thanks
04:16:19 <udinnet> +1
04:16:33 <bckurera> any more to add or move?
04:17:14 <tuanta> move, pls.
04:17:26 <bckurera> #agree adopt meeting guidelines for APAC meetings
04:17:33 <bckurera> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting
04:18:01 <bckurera> This is the meeting item
04:18:04 <bckurera> All FAms, update your F17 release parties to the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
04:18:15 <bckurera> please update it
04:18:46 <dramsey> +1
04:18:49 <bckurera> will add it again as an action item?
04:18:57 <udinnet> +1
04:19:06 <bckurera> #action All FAms, update your F17 release parties to the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
04:19:15 <bckurera> please ask help if you need
04:19:31 <bckurera> i saw an update from Bangladesh in the mailing list
04:19:35 <bckurera> so any ideas?
04:19:57 <bckurera> if not we can move?
04:20:07 <dramsey> +1
04:20:10 * Suresht wants to leave now sorry folks
04:20:33 <bckurera> #topic APAC Trac for Regional Support
04:20:59 <kaio> Hi
04:20:59 <udinnet> hello kaio
04:21:06 <bckurera> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/14
04:21:20 <bckurera> This ticket still waits
04:21:25 <bckurera> ideas or move?
04:21:42 * kaio at restaurant again.
04:21:56 <udinnet> please put kaio in chair
04:22:01 <udinnet> :)
04:22:03 <tuanta> I have no idea who is managing the APAC trac now?
04:22:19 <bckurera> #chair kaio
04:22:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: MarkDude Suresht bckurera born2linux dramsey kaio magie tuanta udinnet
04:22:19 <tuanta> not me, of course :)
04:22:35 <tuanta> hi FranciscoD
04:22:37 <dramsey> #chair FranciscoD
04:22:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude Suresht bckurera born2linux dramsey kaio magie tuanta udinnet
04:22:37 <bckurera> not one person tuanta
04:22:38 <tuanta> #chair FranciscoD
04:22:38 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude Suresht bckurera born2linux dramsey kaio magie tuanta udinnet
04:22:41 <FranciscoD> hello!!
04:22:44 <tuanta> :)
04:22:47 <FranciscoD> sorry I'm late!
04:22:49 <kaio> Zup
04:22:55 * FranciscoD just woke :)
04:22:56 <tuanta> #chair kulll
04:22:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude Suresht bckurera born2linux dramsey kaio kulll magie tuanta udinnet
04:23:02 <bckurera> FranciscoD we are at the ticket #14
04:23:07 <kulll> hello
04:23:14 * udinnet see lot of ppl :)
04:23:14 <tuanta> not a single person, I know; but who?
04:23:14 <bckurera> any update?
04:23:20 <FranciscoD> I hope you folks dont mind if I sit here without brushinng :P
04:23:38 * FranciscoD will just take a look at the ticket
04:23:57 <bckurera> tuanta I am keeping eye on it and Harish also support
04:24:49 <bckurera> any ideas or move?
04:24:54 <dramsey> #chair aolsystems_
04:24:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude Suresht aolsystems_ bckurera born2linux dramsey kaio kulll magie tuanta udinnet
04:24:56 <dramsey> !
04:25:03 <udinnet> we can move
04:25:09 <bckurera> please dramsey
04:25:11 <dramsey> bckurera, how about making an action, what do you think?
04:25:29 <tuanta> I have no idea who is managing the APAC trac now?
04:25:34 <FranciscoD> !
04:25:38 <bckurera> dramsey is it about trac?
04:25:48 * FranciscoD wishes to update folks on the situation
04:25:50 <bckurera> please FranciscoD
04:25:53 <dramsey> Any unknown status....
04:26:06 <FranciscoD> All international travellers have been reimbursed
04:26:17 <FranciscoD> Rahul mailed the list with an update
04:26:43 <FranciscoD> Since he was having trouble transferring from abroad, he's passed it on to pjp, should be done any time now
04:26:55 <FranciscoD> I'll find a link to the mail, just a second
04:28:08 <udinnet> ok
04:28:14 <FranciscoD> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2012-February/003281.html
04:28:18 <FranciscoD> eof
04:28:23 <bckurera> thanks
04:28:35 <bckurera> FranciscoD can you update the ticket as well
04:28:44 <bckurera> once finish please close it
04:28:53 <bckurera> any thing to add more?
04:28:58 <dramsey> !
04:29:09 <bckurera> pls dramsey
04:29:33 <dramsey> Looking at "(1:25:27 PM) tuanta: I have no idea who is managing the APAC trac now?" if there are any unknowns
04:29:34 <dramsey> actions
04:29:41 <dramsey> eof
04:29:55 <bckurera> I can help trac if no one to take it
04:30:15 <bckurera> then I ll add it as an action item for me?
04:30:52 <tuanta> If none of us knows this, I think, we should ask this to the mailing list
04:31:01 <bckurera> #action bckurera to find out who is managing the APAC-trac
04:31:12 <bckurera> ok It is added
04:31:18 <bckurera> any more or move?
04:31:19 <tuanta> +1
04:31:22 <dramsey> +1
04:31:25 <udinnet> +1
04:31:29 <tuanta> yes, we can move now
04:31:36 * FranciscoD goes to update ticket
04:31:42 <bckurera> #topic APAC Events
04:31:43 <tuanta> it's half an hour
04:32:03 <bckurera> any info about FUDcon?
04:32:03 <tuanta> please try to manage the meeting duration to 1 hour as planned
04:32:27 <bckurera> +1
04:32:41 <bckurera> please feel free to add your ideas for this topic
04:32:41 <udinnet> what about FUDCon decisions?
04:32:44 <tuanta> we will have a lot of events, activities in Vietnam, very soon
04:32:58 <udinnet> cool tuanta
04:33:12 <bckurera> +1
04:33:21 <tuanta> a good news: I have been elected as Vice President at Vietnam Free and Open Source Software Association
04:33:30 <udinnet> bckurera: How about planning a F17 release event in UWU?
04:33:41 <tuanta> I will manage those activities to promote and develop the FOSS community in Vietnma
04:33:54 <udinnet> UWU:- Uwa Wellassa University Sri Lanka
04:33:55 <tuanta> one f my priories, of course, Fedora Project
04:34:38 <udinnet> bckurera: I think the event is confirmed. I'll update you soon. :)
04:34:40 <dramsey> +1
04:34:51 <bckurera> udinnet +1
04:35:10 <aolsystems_> azneita: HELLO
04:35:24 <udinnet> There, we can have a F17 release party
04:35:24 <bckurera> anymore updates?
04:35:31 <dramsey> !
04:35:35 <udinnet> FUDCon?
04:35:49 <bckurera> please mention eof when you stop talking
04:36:10 <FranciscoD_> !
04:36:17 <bckurera> dramsey please
04:37:17 <kulll> where is the next FUDcon?
04:37:30 <bckurera> dramsey we are waiting :)
04:37:39 <kaio> Let's decide, roger.
04:37:42 <tuanta> APAC one or any FUDcon, kulll?
04:37:54 <kaio> Apac roger.
04:38:07 <bckurera> FranciscoD please !
04:38:35 <MarkDude> ?
04:38:43 <FranciscoD> We need to increase the number of events we do.
04:39:06 <FranciscoD> We also need to learn to follow the protocol for fedora events
04:39:44 <FranciscoD> That helps getting and regulating the amount of swag/goodies for each event
04:39:58 <dramsey> +1
04:40:02 <magie> +1
04:40:06 <born2linux> +1
04:40:14 <FranciscoD> so, I'd like to discuss events under this topic, when they've been added to the fedora events page
04:40:24 <FranciscoD> and a certain amount of preparations have been made
04:40:45 <FranciscoD> otherwise, we just come in and mention "so and so events in so and so region is planned"
04:40:57 <FranciscoD> and we really dont take any steps towards them
04:41:11 <FranciscoD> if one wants their event discussed, add it to the events page, add it to the agenda
04:41:19 <FranciscoD> meeting agenda I mean :)
04:41:20 <FranciscoD> eof
04:41:24 <dramsey> +1
04:41:31 <bckurera> dramsey please !
04:41:42 <kulll> +1
04:42:03 * FranciscoD added Nitesh's event to the agenda if no one has noticed ;)
04:42:04 <dramsey> Concur 100% with FranciscoD and we have a couple deadlines to remember
04:42:08 <dramsey> #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html
04:42:09 <aolsystems_> born2linux: +1
04:42:22 <aolsystems_> magie: :)
04:42:28 <dramsey> Review and plan your Fedora 17 needs, for example media, swag and anything else.
04:42:28 <dramsey> FAmSCo and Regional teams call for Preparation of Media/SWAG by Thu 2012-03-08
04:42:28 <dramsey> Hold Release Events and Publish Event Reports Tue 2012-05-08
04:42:30 <dramsey> eof
04:42:44 <FranciscoD> important dates!
04:42:53 <bckurera> +1
04:42:58 <bckurera> anymore ideas or move?
04:43:02 <FranciscoD> #info FAmSCo and Regional teams call for Preparation of Media/SWAG by Thu 2012-03-08
04:43:13 <FranciscoD> #info Hold Release Events and Publish Event Reports Tue 2012-05-08
04:43:25 <aolsystems_> bckurera: hello :)
04:43:35 <FranciscoD> #info Add event to Fedora events page and APAC meeting agenda if it is to be discussed in the meeting
04:43:44 <FranciscoD> did I miss anything?
04:43:57 <bckurera> any ideas?
04:44:25 <FranciscoD> has nitesh's event and request for swag been discussed?
04:44:26 <bckurera> further APAC trac can also be used.
04:44:27 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/18 ?
04:44:39 <FranciscoD> I had made him open a trac ticket
04:44:59 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Niteshnarayan/OpenTalks
04:45:20 <bckurera> please update FranciscoD
04:45:21 <FranciscoD> He still needs to add more data, but I'd like to get him some swag for the event at least
04:45:51 <FranciscoD> He's a new ambassador, one we expect to stick around. So I'd really like to encourage him :)
04:46:04 * harish back at keyboard
04:46:15 <FranciscoD> Getting him at least *some* swag would be a nice way of encouraging him and showing our support IMO :)
04:46:25 <FranciscoD> Please comment on this? :)
04:46:35 <inode0> +1
04:46:36 <FranciscoD> Oh, and use "!" and let bckurera pass you the floor :)
04:46:39 <FranciscoD> eof
04:46:43 <MarkDude> !
04:46:43 <dramsey> +1
04:46:47 <bckurera> ok thanks
04:46:52 <udinnet> good idea FranciscoD
04:46:55 <bckurera> MarkDude please
04:47:23 <MarkDude> Nitesh is in process of becoming Ambadassador
04:47:35 <MarkDude> Not sure of details,
04:47:52 <MarkDude> He has also been with marketing team and videos
04:48:10 <tuanta> cool
04:48:27 <MarkDude> Give him extra swag, he has been really helpful with areas seen (and unseen )
04:48:32 <MarkDude> eof
04:48:35 <MarkDude> :)
04:48:40 <dramsey> +1
04:48:41 <bckurera> thanks
04:48:48 <bckurera> any update, idea?
04:48:51 <bckurera> or move?
04:49:07 <FranciscoD> ?
04:49:29 <FranciscoD> !
04:49:37 <bckurera> FranciscoD please
04:49:59 <FranciscoD> Who is our contact for swag/goodies?
04:50:17 <bckurera> !
04:50:20 <FranciscoD> NA and EMEA have people who are "in-charge" of sending out swag/media/other stuff for events
04:50:29 <FranciscoD> do we have such a person in APAC?
04:50:39 <FranciscoD> eof
04:50:46 <tuanta> !
04:50:47 <bckurera> bckurera please
04:50:48 <bckurera> :)
04:50:56 <MarkDude> !
04:51:04 <bckurera> Harish is handling that as far as I am known
04:51:20 <bckurera> but with the taxation problem there is no central point of contact
04:51:28 <harish> bckurera, only for those requests I get - so for for CDs.
04:51:29 <FranciscoD> !
04:51:30 <bckurera> how ever we need to discuss this
04:51:34 <tuanta> X
04:51:39 <bckurera> eof
04:51:48 <bckurera> MarkDude please
04:51:54 <harish> as always our challenge is as pointed out customs taxes.
04:52:05 <tuanta> +1 harish
04:52:09 <dramsey> +1
04:52:12 <bckurera> #chair harish
04:52:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude Suresht aolsystems_ bckurera born2linux dramsey harish kaio kulll magie tuanta udinnet
04:52:20 <MarkDude> Swag is shipped from one area, not two or more?
04:52:21 <tuanta> that's the main reason
04:52:21 <harish> thanks bckurera
04:52:24 <tuanta> a big problem
04:52:34 <kaio> I cannot seed because AU postage is sky high.
04:52:57 <MarkDude> Has their been any research on different combos of shipping- ir at we at cheap rate now?
04:53:15 <harish> MarkDude, i was going to suggest that.
04:53:26 <bckurera> !
04:53:44 <FranciscoD> MarkDude: eof when you're done :P
04:53:46 <tuanta> please FranciscoD
04:53:51 <harish> can each Ambassador put on the APAC page the relative costs of things like tshirts, stickers, decals, CDs and also shipping (average costs)
04:54:09 <tuanta> #info each Ambassador put on the APAC page the relative costs of things like tshirts, stickers, decals, CDs and also shipping (average costs)
04:54:13 <FranciscoD> it's high time we did that
04:54:18 <tuanta> that's good idea, I think
04:54:18 <MarkDude> +1
04:54:20 * harish oops spoke out of sequence :-)
04:54:20 <dramsey> +1
04:54:20 <magie> +1
04:54:25 <born2linux> +1
04:54:26 <FranciscoD> can we have action items for each ambassador please?
04:54:26 <udinnet> harish: That is a very nice idea
04:54:55 <harish> with a table like that, we can then decide who makes what and what gets shipped etc.
04:54:56 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD find out shipping charges for t shirts stickers goodies from Bangalore through India and abroad
04:55:09 <FranciscoD> please make action items for yourself, mentioning the area you're in
04:55:29 <udinnet> So that we can get an rough idea about SWAG shipping costs. cool
04:55:41 <FranciscoD> Can we also have this info on the wiki? That shipping is an issue inside APAC?
04:55:46 <MarkDude> +1 table
04:55:53 <bckurera> #action bckurera find out shipping charges for swags from Colombo through Sri Lanka and abroad
04:56:07 <udinnet> +1 bckurera
04:56:09 <bckurera> nice, any ideas or move
04:56:30 <FranciscoD> harish: would it be better if people got their swag made and asked for reimbursements? That would cause some redundancy, but it may be cheaper than sending stuff from one place to another?
04:56:35 <harish> and i can see that becoming a app that we can plug into and figure out what the best locations are to do various things.
04:56:54 <tuanta> +1 FranciscoD, absolutely
04:56:57 <harish> FranciscoD, indeed. that's what i've been recommending.
04:57:06 <tuanta> we decided that way for Vietnam
04:57:36 <udinnet> That is the best and cheaper way
04:57:37 <FranciscoD> #info recommend Ambassadors get their swag after reimbursement approval from APAC, request reimbursements after event reports + photos are in.
04:57:38 <udinnet> +1
04:57:51 <FranciscoD> harish: that clear enough?
04:57:53 <bckurera> !
04:57:59 <tuanta> + invoices, FranciscoD
04:58:00 <harish> FranciscoD, yes
04:58:04 <FranciscoD> ah!
04:58:06 <FranciscoD> stupid me
04:58:21 <FranciscoD> #info recommend Ambassadors get their swag after reimbursement approval from APAC, request reimbursements after event reports + photos + invoies are in.
04:58:39 <harish> we need to have the reimbursements ONLY done after proof of event.
04:58:44 * FranciscoD just realized he called himself stupid in the logs :$
04:59:00 <FranciscoD> harish: yes, we're going to try and implement the Event guidelines more strictly
04:59:12 <harish> also a timeout.
04:59:15 <harish> why timeout?
04:59:36 <harish> because I don't know when something is coming in and hate to have to track down something from 3-6 months back.
04:59:50 <FranciscoD> harish: what period would you recommend?
05:00:08 <harish> that's a good question.
05:00:19 <harish> well, i would say no later thatn 1 month from event.
05:00:24 <FranciscoD> Great
05:00:31 <dramsey> +1
05:00:49 <bckurera> +1
05:00:53 <tuanta> we already have guidelines, FranciscoD
05:00:54 <FranciscoD> #info Period of ONE MONTH after the event for claiming reimbursements (submitting of invoices etc.). else, claim LAPSES
05:01:05 <FranciscoD> tuanta: yeah, but I don't see people in APAC following them really
05:01:15 <bckurera> !
05:01:22 <harish> i have stuff that i've asked for like receipts etc that don't show up for a long time and when it does, either i don't know of it and then what happens is that we (or I) look tardy in reimbursing. that is not a good thing.
05:01:23 <FranciscoD> there was the gnunify in India recently. People went. No tickets were ever opened!
05:01:25 <tuanta> guidelines should be shared by all
05:01:45 <udinnet> FranciscoD: There maybe some difficulties too
05:01:56 <udinnet> bckurera please
05:02:04 <bckurera> hey thanks
05:02:06 <FranciscoD> harish: do the invoices have to be mailed to you, or are scanned copies attached to the trac ticket sufficient?
05:02:14 * FranciscoD wants to get everything in the clear
05:02:17 <bckurera> we need to follow guidelines +1
05:02:21 <tuanta> attach to the ticket
05:02:27 <bckurera> further APAC trac can be used
05:02:33 <FranciscoD> it should be used
05:02:40 <harish> only scanned ones. i don't want to receive any paper please.
05:02:48 <bckurera> add any request to trac so that can be discussed and take actions
05:03:04 <bckurera> later we used FAmSCo trac
05:03:05 <FranciscoD> #info invoices need to be scanned and attached to trac ticket for reimbursement claim
05:03:05 <harish> yes, trac ticket with all the requisite receipts, payment vouchers etc would suffice.
05:03:09 <bckurera> eof
05:03:26 <FranciscoD> good, stuff is clearer, in more detail :)
05:03:26 <tuanta> reimbursement guidelines here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements
05:03:54 <FranciscoD> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events -> everything related to holding a fedora event :P
05:04:02 <bckurera> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac
05:04:14 <harish> can someone check if the trac can send alerts when something has been in the queue for one month?
05:04:14 <udinnet> it is almost 1 hour :P
05:04:21 <FranciscoD> we can move on please
05:04:28 * FranciscoD is sorry for going off agenda
05:04:28 <bckurera> harish I ll take it
05:04:29 <tuanta> and a step by step guidelines for how to organize a Fedora event here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization :)
05:05:05 <bckurera> further please add meeting / swag/ event keywords as it suits
05:05:18 <bckurera> shall we move then?
05:05:24 <FranciscoD> bckurera: sure, please move to the next
05:05:26 <FranciscoD> topic
05:05:31 * harish wondering if any Chinese Ambassadors are on this meeting?
05:05:33 <bckurera> #topic Status of F17 Release Parties
05:05:43 <bckurera> we talked lot about events
05:05:46 <bckurera> anything to add?
05:05:50 <tuanta> no Chinese, harish
05:05:55 <udinnet> not from here :)
05:06:14 <FranciscoD> Like I said, if you want your event discussed, add it to the agenda :)
05:06:24 <udinnet> +1
05:06:28 <magie> +1
05:06:32 <FranciscoD> #info ask nitesh to get swag for the event, keep invoices for reimbursement
05:06:40 <bckurera> all FAms please add your release party events to wiki
05:06:50 <bckurera> next topic?
05:06:54 <tuanta> ok
05:06:58 <udinnet> +1
05:07:11 <bckurera> #topic Fedora and Red Hat System Administration Study Group for Ambassadors
05:07:11 <udinnet> bckurera: yes please
05:07:23 <bckurera> dramsey's turn
05:07:29 <udinnet> :)
05:07:32 <dramsey> bckurera, thank you
05:07:32 <bckurera> udinnet, anything to add?
05:07:44 <dramsey> whoops, I'll wait
05:07:45 <bckurera> dramsey please
05:07:49 <dramsey> Okay.
05:08:04 <dramsey> Have contacted herlo for additional EC2 information and updated the wiki accordingly
05:08:07 <dramsey> eof
05:08:10 <dramsey> !
05:08:17 <bckurera> dramsey please
05:08:38 <FranciscoD> !
05:08:39 <dramsey> Have created and updated Fedora 17 Release Events at wiki = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
05:08:41 <dramsey> eof
05:08:49 <bckurera> FranciscoD your turn
05:09:24 <FranciscoD> bckurera: harish : could one of you please comment on nitesh's ticket saying "please get your stuff and keep the invoices for reimbursement" or something on the lines?
05:09:31 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/18
05:09:39 <harish> ok
05:09:46 <dramsey> +1
05:09:46 <bckurera> I ll do it for sure
05:09:53 <FranciscoD> you could also tell him what his upper limit is :)
05:10:03 <FranciscoD> we wouldnt want him to buy a ferrari ;)
05:10:15 <harish> question: what were the lessons learned from previous release events that we can improve on for F17?
05:10:33 <FranciscoD> #action harish bckurera comment on nitesh's ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/18 telling him about reimbursements and his upper limit
05:10:47 * FranciscoD has learnt that people need to follow event guidelines more
05:10:59 * FranciscoD has learnt that we need to look for good target audiences
05:11:07 <bckurera> harish I think it is better to bring this to Mailing List
05:11:22 <bckurera> as we have spent lot of time for the meeting shall we go fast?
05:11:23 <born2linux> +1
05:11:36 <FranciscoD> how about we discuss it in the mailing list, and then discuss our findings in the next meeting?
05:11:46 <bckurera> dramsey udinnet anything more to add about the topic?
05:11:58 <bckurera> FranciscoD +1
05:11:59 <FranciscoD> I can make a survey (on google docs) if you think one will be required
05:12:03 <FranciscoD> harish: ^?
05:12:16 <bckurera> FranciscoD +1
05:12:30 <bckurera> FranciscoD please do it
05:12:30 <dramsey> +1 bckurera, eof from me.
05:12:40 <bckurera> udinnet?
05:12:51 <udinnet> not from here bckurera
05:12:52 <udinnet> :)
05:12:55 <udinnet> thanks
05:13:01 <bckurera> #topic Teach fedora using Videos campaign
05:13:02 <FranciscoD> #info dramsey has contacted herlo for additional EC2 information and updated the wiki accordingly
05:13:05 <harish> FranciscoD, was there a question for me?
05:13:08 <bckurera> FranciscoD please
05:13:31 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Niteshnarayan/video_tutorials#Fedora_Videos_Team
05:13:41 <FranciscoD> harish: is it okay if we discuss the "things you've learnt from previous events" on the ML and then in the next meeting?
05:13:46 <udinnet> !
05:13:52 <harish> for sure
05:13:52 <bckurera> FranciscoD , anything to add?
05:13:53 <dramsey> +1
05:13:59 <FranciscoD> harish: great :)
05:14:06 <FranciscoD> bckurera: yeah, I'll take half a minute
05:14:12 <harish> better yet, summarize them on the wiki. like a do this, don't do that style
05:14:23 <FranciscoD> Is everyone aware of the videos campaign to start with? :)
05:14:42 * bckurera is on it
05:14:49 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD summarize lessons learnt from past events on wiki in "Dos and Donts" format
05:15:11 <udinnet> this is the result page of the survey what dramsey  and I had. #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aplp6tv7mdWBdEVGRlJNY0dKQkp2bUJKbEJlVEtpOGc
05:15:22 <FranciscoD> <zodbot> Minutes:        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-16/fedora-meeting.2012-02-16-15.24.html
05:15:25 <FranciscoD> <zodbot> Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-16/fedora-meeting.2012-02-16-15.24.txt
05:15:28 <FranciscoD> <zodbot> Log:            http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-16/fedora-meeting.2012-02-16-15.24.log.html
05:15:31 <FranciscoD> these are from the last fedora videos meeting
05:15:40 <FranciscoD> You can have a look to see our progress.
05:15:59 <udinnet> It'll take you to a better understanding regarding the linux training in a whole
05:16:07 <udinnet> :)
05:16:13 <FranciscoD> If you have the time, please submit videos/screencasts/tutorials (anything in movie format really!)
05:16:25 <FranciscoD> #action all Contribute  videos for Fedora videos
05:16:31 <udinnet> +1
05:16:40 <FranciscoD> If you have any queries regarding the campaign, please ask away on the ML.
05:16:54 <FranciscoD> #info queries related to Fedora videos to be asked on Ambassadors ML
05:16:54 <FranciscoD> eofg
05:16:58 <bckurera> udinnet please
05:17:22 <udinnet> oops I already put my idea above :)
05:17:42 <bckurera> shall we move?
05:17:45 <FranciscoD> aye
05:17:52 <bckurera> #topic Fedora Participation (dramsey as well as others who want to voice their ideas)
05:18:12 <udinnet> dramsey -->
05:18:17 <bckurera> please add anything related
05:18:29 <dramsey> +1
05:18:47 <dramsey> FYI for everyone and food for future.
05:18:48 <bckurera> next topic?
05:18:49 <dramsey> efo
05:18:50 <dramsey> eof
05:18:51 <dramsey> +1
05:19:05 <bckurera> thanks dramsey
05:19:10 <bckurera> #topic Open Floor
05:19:21 <bckurera> here is the open floor
05:19:34 <bckurera> any ideas? suggestions?
05:19:40 <dramsey> !
05:19:47 <bckurera> dramsey please
05:19:50 <dramsey> Next meeting Saturday, March 03rd at 04:00 UTC
05:19:59 <dramsey> Thank you, bckurera and others.  :)
05:20:00 <dramsey> eof
05:20:07 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-03-03
05:20:16 <tuanta> !
05:20:24 <udinnet> tuanta:  please
05:20:25 <bckurera> please add your item to the agenda and please use the trac as well
05:20:25 <bckurera> please tuanta
05:20:44 <tuanta> do you know when the next APAC FUDcon would be decided?
05:21:01 <udinnet> That is a big question for me too
05:21:07 <magie> +1
05:21:10 <udinnet> kaio: ?
05:21:17 <udinnet> any idea?
05:21:26 <tuanta> no one knows?
05:21:30 <inode0> !
05:21:43 <tuanta> thanks, inode0 appears
05:21:48 <tuanta> please
05:21:51 <bckurera> any idea?
05:21:55 <tuanta> #chair inode0
05:21:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude Suresht aolsystems_ bckurera born2linux dramsey harish inode0 kaio kulll magie tuanta udinnet
05:22:04 <inode0> you guys recommended a location for FUDCon?
05:22:09 <bckurera> I read the FAmSCo log as well
05:22:15 <udinnet> yes we did
05:22:19 <bckurera> but there is no notice
05:22:24 <bckurera> seems link we should wait a bit
05:22:29 <udinnet> in last two meetings :)
05:22:32 * inode0 suggests passing that along again to FAmSCo for its meeting this week
05:22:43 <born2linux> +1
05:22:47 <born2linux> please do
05:22:53 <inode0> open a FAmSCo ticket and get it on the agenda so they can make a recommendation too
05:23:03 <udinnet> +1
05:23:11 <bckurera> !
05:23:11 <udinnet> that is cool
05:23:14 <FranciscoD> can someone take that up as an action item please?
05:23:18 <inode0> eof
05:24:01 <FranciscoD> come on, someone step up :P
05:24:09 <tuanta> !
05:24:38 <tuanta> !
05:24:47 <FranciscoD> tuanta: go :)
05:24:49 <tuanta> inode0: firstly, we prefer MY since PH and CN proposed dates are not in schedule, but now PH fixed that then PH could be a good choice
05:25:33 <tuanta> I would like to press that PH team is bigger than MY one (MY one is just one person)
05:26:00 <tuanta> and PH FUDcon can also have support from BluePoint, an NGO
05:26:01 <FranciscoD> #action tuanta udinnet kaio File ticket in FAmSCo trac requesting a discussion on next FUDCon APAC, with as many details possible
05:26:13 <born2linux> !
05:26:22 <tuanta> FranciscoD, we already have a lot discussion about this
05:26:24 <tuanta> eof
05:26:51 <udinnet> thanks FranciscoD
05:26:55 <dramsey> +1
05:26:57 <FranciscoD> tuanta: I know, but like inode0 said, if its up on the FAmSCo trac, it gets discussed as a part of their meeting
05:27:00 <FranciscoD> (for sure)
05:27:03 <udinnet> i was about to make the action item
05:27:32 <bckurera__> sorry disconnected
05:27:36 <FranciscoD> udinnet: i beat you to it :P
05:27:45 <FranciscoD> bckurera__: next topic please :)
05:27:58 <udinnet> we are @ the end :P
05:28:01 <bckurera> I lost the chair
05:28:09 <FranciscoD> #chair bckurera
05:28:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude Suresht aolsystems_ bckurera born2linux dramsey harish inode0 kaio kulll magie tuanta udinnet
05:28:16 <FranciscoD> bckurera: go :P
05:28:17 <bckurera> thanks
05:28:27 <bckurera> so folks any thing to go further
05:28:36 <bckurera> or we can finish the today's meeting
05:28:50 <bckurera> thanks for your support there were lot of ideas :)
05:28:58 <udinnet> I think this is enough for today. Tons of ideas came in
05:29:08 <udinnet> thanks all of you guys
05:29:13 <FranciscoD> lets finish off, people are getting impatient :P
05:29:19 <udinnet> XD
05:29:22 <bckurera> please work for the action items and thanks for your presence
05:29:22 <bckurera> we are ending :)
05:29:23 <bckurera> 4
05:29:23 <bckurera> 3
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05:29:25 <bckurera> 1
05:29:26 <harish> see you all in two weeks.
05:29:29 <bckurera> thanks all
05:29:29 <FranciscoD> we can move the rest of the agenda on to the next meetings agenda
05:29:32 <dramsey> :)
05:29:34 <udinnet> thanks all
05:29:35 <bckurera> #endmeeting