02:00:23 <inode0> #startmeeting FAmNA
02:00:23 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Feb 15 02:00:23 2012 UTC.  The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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02:00:25 <nb> #info  is eating bacon cheeseburger pizza during this meating
02:00:31 <inode0> #meetingname FAmNA
02:00:31 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna'
02:00:40 <inode0> #topic Roll Call
02:00:40 <nb> #info we like steaks at meatings
02:00:43 * nb is here
02:00:56 <Jsandys> Jeff here
02:00:58 * jsmith is here for a few minutes
02:01:55 * rbergeron is here eating a cupcake
02:02:09 <inode0> Mario sends regrets and a lot of information about what he has been up to
02:02:16 <rbergeron> indeed
02:02:31 <inode0> #topic Announcements
02:02:59 <nb> #info bpowell01 is stepping down as a shipper
02:03:27 * inode0 thanks DemonJester profusely
02:03:44 <rbergeron> #info If anyone has expenses for which they need reimbursement from the past year, now is the time to produce those receipts and so forth
02:04:04 <inode0> Brian was one of the FAmNA founding members and has been doing shipping for us forever
02:04:11 <inode0> s/was/is
02:05:08 <rbergeron> That's a lot of boxes and media. :)
02:05:49 <inode0> As I understand it he will ship swag to LFNE and continue shipping media through F16
02:06:14 <inode0> So we have plenty of time to figure out how to arrange things going forward
02:06:24 * rbergeron nods
02:06:41 <inode0> which doesn't mean we should wait until the last minute :)
02:06:46 <MarkDude> \o
02:07:01 * nb wonders, is there much volume in brian's area? could ben sustain both east coast regions?
02:07:02 <inode0> #topic Tickets
02:07:11 <award3535> I am here as a trainee
02:07:17 <inode0> welcome award3535
02:07:39 <award3535> thank you i will be watching the process to learn
02:07:40 * SGS whispers, "Here!"
02:07:42 <inode0> .famnaticket 5
02:07:43 <zodbot> inode0: #5 (Q1 2011 Event Review) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/5
02:08:19 <inode0> so this is a list of events that we attended or considered in Q1 of last year with some additions added by rbergeron
02:09:16 <inode0> I'd like to walk through them and see if we can pick up any owners or volunteers to drive them as we move on
02:09:41 <inode0> .famnaticket 11
02:09:42 <zodbot> inode0: #11 (LinuxFest Northwest 2012, Apr 28-29, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/11
02:10:03 <inode0> out of order but this one is coming up and we should tie up loose ends
02:10:17 <inode0> Mario owns it and I'm confident he'll do a great job
02:10:17 <rbergeron> has anyone claimed it on the events wiki?
02:10:22 <rbergeron> wait
02:10:31 <rbergeron> is mario doing LFNW or LFNE?
02:10:49 <kk4ewt> LWNE
02:11:21 * inode0 botched that didn't he
02:11:31 <inode0> wanted to start with LFNE
02:11:38 <rbergeron> ;)
02:11:40 <rbergeron> REDO!
02:11:48 <inode0> .famnaticket 9
02:11:49 <zodbot> inode0: #9 (Northeast Linux Fest 2012, Mar 17, Worcester, MA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/9
02:12:25 <inode0> so mario sent a few questions and I know kk4ewt has some answers
02:12:40 <inode0> table cover + banners?
02:12:54 <inode0> kk4ewt: you are sending those, correct?
02:12:59 <kk4ewt> yes i will
02:13:23 <inode0> #action kk4ewt will send table covers and banners to LFNE
02:13:42 <inode0> he also asked about t-shirts
02:13:54 <inode0> if there a trac ticket on that?
02:14:25 <kk4ewt> i only need a address to send to
02:15:21 * inode0 is looking at tickets 265 and 267
02:16:13 <inode0> I think the swag guys need to look at these and see if we can figure out what he wants beyond what brian is sending
02:16:51 <inode0> do folks still have t-shirts?
02:16:56 <nb> yes
02:17:01 * rbergeron has XLs and XXLs and maybe some Ls
02:17:19 <kk4ewt> i have some and hopefull Brian should as well
02:17:32 <inode0> ok, so we can get him some of those at least, he also mentioned a raffle prize but didn't suggest what it was that I could see
02:18:44 <inode0> #action inode0 will follow up and help Mario get tickets processed and make sure he gets event resources
02:19:18 <inode0> .famnaticket 6
02:19:20 <zodbot> inode0: #6 (PyCon US 2012, Mar 7-15, Santa Clara, CA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/6
02:19:37 <rbergeron> inode0: this is one where we are looking for some pamphets or literature, right?
02:19:45 * rbergeron reads ticket
02:19:48 <inode0> this is one we have sent stuff to in the past but we don't attend ourselves or have a booth
02:20:03 * rbergeron nods
02:20:15 <inode0> toshio and some other Red Hat python people go and represent us while they are at it
02:20:57 <rbergeron> I am happy to follow up with Toshio on if he needs media, and work to see if marketing/design can come up with an appropriate flyer.
02:21:05 <inode0> so we just need to make sure toshio gets media and swag and we're hoping to get a python specific flyer
02:21:14 <kk4ewt> last year mock and toshio basicly did backpack table
02:21:34 <rbergeron> I'm kind of short on "other swag," though, so perhaps I should file a request for moar of that.
02:22:15 <inode0> ok, less than a month to go to get ready for this one
02:22:29 <rbergeron> yup.
02:22:51 <inode0> we'll ping abadger1999 about volume and assortment
02:23:16 <rbergeron> okay, shall i just go for the prodding along of flyer?
02:23:27 * rbergeron also wants to do one for another one on list, so two at once would be easier, i think
02:23:37 <rbergeron> (rather than two people trying to figure out same thing)
02:23:39 <inode0> #action rbergeron goes for prodding along of flyer for pycon :)
02:24:11 <inode0> #action inode0 will check with abadger1999 about volume and assortment of other material
02:24:26 <inode0> .famnaticket 7
02:24:27 <zodbot> inode0: #7 (Indiana LinuxFest 2012, Apr 13-15, Indianapolis, IN) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/7
02:25:01 <inode0> So this has an owner and some other interested ambassadors
02:25:21 <inode0> Does anyone want to contact Brian and see what he is thinking?
02:25:43 <inode0> Someone else planning to go would be ideal :)
02:25:54 * nb may be going
02:25:57 <inode0> wink wink nb wink wink
02:26:01 <nb> and i think threethirty is planning on going
02:26:14 <rbergeron> i was just about to say - perhaps threethirty also
02:26:17 <inode0> see if Brian would like help, I'm sure he would
02:26:49 * nb notes the thing inode0 usually mentions about we don't usually buy travel for people to work a table at an event
02:27:01 <nb> but i am (probably) willing to go, as long as travel is covered
02:27:11 <nb> which will either be a car or plane, haven't figured out
02:27:12 <inode0> oh, we do that a lot
02:27:17 <rbergeron> yeah, i was going to say
02:27:26 <rbergeron> I think we don't usually buy 4 steak dinners for them :)
02:27:42 * nb is a bit confused about the event travel thing
02:27:56 <inode0> we'd like to not have to do it so often, but we don't have ambassadors everywhere
02:28:00 <nb> inode0, true
02:28:04 <rbergeron> but wrt travel - I think we've historically paid for travel to events for people who are in the nearby-ish region, if someone's not immediately available
02:28:25 <inode0> right, we prefer as local as possible
02:28:54 <inode0> #action nb to follow up with bpepple regarding ILF planning
02:29:10 <inode0> .famnaticket 8
02:29:11 <zodbot> inode0: #8 (POSSCON 2012, Mar 27-29, Columbia, SC) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/8
02:29:26 <inode0> I don't have anything on this one other than I believe ke4qqq will be around
02:29:43 <inode0> no owner yet so if anyone wants it feel free to grab it
02:29:53 <inode0> especially if you are in the area
02:30:23 <inode0> where is makfinsky when I want him?
02:30:26 * rbergeron wonders if maybe suehle might be interested in working on this one - I can ping her
02:30:38 <rbergeron> inode0: with his screaaaaaming monkey toys :)
02:30:51 * inode0 has his screaming monkey toys here
02:30:55 * rbergeron too!
02:31:31 <inode0> #action rbergeron will ping suehle and inode0 will ping makfinsky about POSSCON
02:31:51 <inode0> .famnaticket 10
02:31:52 <zodbot> inode0: #10 (Texas Linux Fest 2012, May? ??, Austin, TX) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/10
02:32:01 <inode0> this will be quick
02:32:25 <inode0> dates aren't set but they have firm offers for the last weekend in May iirc
02:32:49 <inode0> we have a number of people in Austin so getting an owner for this one I expect to be easy when the dates are set
02:33:19 <inode0> .famnaticket 11
02:33:22 <zodbot> inode0: #11 (LinuxFest Northwest 2012, Apr 28-29, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/11
02:33:30 <inode0> back to this one for rbergeron to continue
02:33:48 <Jsandys> can be the owner of this event.
02:33:59 <rbergeron> I don't know that I have a lot of continuing here - jsandys owneed this last year, and did very well, IMO
02:34:09 <rbergeron> I'm happpy to bring media - i have a boatload
02:34:12 <rbergeron> or at least, a boxload
02:34:13 <inode0> please put yourself down as the owner Jsandys :)
02:34:33 <Jsandys> Platinum Sponsorship, $1500, 10' booth, 6 badges, Tees, lunches, 1 left, includes full page ad, web ad, banner, room name, large name badge space
02:34:50 <Jsandys> Gold Sponsorship, $750, 10' booth, 4 badges, Tees, lunches, 2 left, includes 1/4 page ad, web ad, small name badge space
02:35:10 <Jsandys> Silver Sponsorship, $400, 6' table, 2 badges, Tees, lunches, 49 left
02:35:18 * inode0 loves a prepared ambassador
02:36:14 <Jsandys> We had a 6' table the last 2 years
02:36:33 <inode0> just an observation that I don't know much of anything about our budget in Q1 at this point so decisions regarding finances may need to wait a week or two for that to settle and become known to us
02:36:34 * rbergeron is all for a silver sponsorship. I think it's what we've done in the past, I think it's a good event, people are very engaged there.
02:36:49 <rbergeron> inode0: true
02:37:14 <inode0> but let's plan on Silver unless there is an issue
02:37:20 <nb> inode0, +1
02:37:20 <rbergeron> jsandys: is that agreeable?
02:37:32 <Jsandys> OK I'll work it
02:38:31 <rbergeron> jsandys: thanks!
02:38:34 <inode0> Jsandys: I'll take the meeting tag off of this ticket tonight and make you the ticket owner - add back the meeting milestone any time you want it back on the agenda
02:38:39 <rbergeron> is there an event page yet?
02:38:49 * rbergeron isn't sure offhand
02:39:05 <Jsandys> I'll make a page
02:39:14 * nb wonders if harish knows how our budget will be
02:39:40 * inode0 prefers to not digress into budget - we should hear something soon
02:39:58 <nb> ok
02:40:02 <inode0> or wait until the open floor
02:40:18 <inode0> .famnaticket 12
02:40:19 <zodbot> inode0: #12 (Penguicon 2012, Apr 27-29, Dearborn. MI) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/12
02:40:40 <inode0> This one is open, spot has gone in the past
02:40:50 <inode0> No idea if he is going this year or not
02:41:20 <inode0> For years we have been getting requests for a speaker in the Detroit area so I'd love to see someone speak there
02:41:40 <rbergeron> we've been getting requests for a speaker from the detroit area to speak there?
02:41:51 <rbergeron> or just getting random requests for someone to come talk in motor city at random events?
02:42:36 <inode0> not random - a very large and active lug in the area
02:42:52 <rbergeron> ah
02:42:54 <inode0> the contact I have will be at penguicon too
02:43:37 <inode0> they get folks for all the other major distributions and I wish we had someone from Fedora to visit the lug
02:44:04 <inode0> I've sent media and swag in the past with apologies about the lack of a speaker
02:44:29 * rbergeron nods
02:44:49 <inode0> I'm pretty sure we could help someone travel there within reason if anyone fairly nearby is interested
02:45:19 <inode0> or if anyone goes to penguicon I was hoping to double dip
02:45:20 <rbergeron> shall we poke spot about his attendance, and then perhaps revisit at next meeting about seeing if anyone's interested?
02:45:53 * rbergeron can just add him to the CC to see if he is
02:45:56 <inode0> for those who don't know this is partly a sci-fi con as I understand it
02:46:27 <inode0> ok, let's touch base with spot
02:46:39 <inode0> .famnaticket 13
02:46:40 <zodbot> inode0: #13 (ABLEconf 2012, Mar 24, Tempe, AZ) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/13
02:47:11 <inode0> I don't really recall how this worked out last year
02:47:26 <inode0> It is a more businessy event I believe
02:47:38 * rbergeron sighs heavily
02:47:40 <rbergeron> yes.
02:47:50 <rbergeron> and iirc there is usually a turnout of ... 50ish people.
02:47:53 <rbergeron> I think rrix went last year.
02:48:19 <inode0> well, if it is that small if a local wants it they can pick it up for us
02:48:42 <inode0> .famnaticket 14
02:48:43 <zodbot> inode0: #14 (LibrePlanet 2012, Mar 24-25, Boston, MA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/14
02:49:08 <inode0> the last three were suggested by rbergeron so I'll let her make some comments on them
02:50:01 <rbergeron> Well, this one is fairly sizeable, AIUI, and I think we have a number of people in the Boston area. ;)
02:50:45 <rbergeron> sorry, just lost my internets
02:51:20 <inode0> do we just send some stuff for Red Hat folks to take or what?
02:51:24 <rbergeron> This is the fourth time they've done it.
02:51:30 <rbergeron> http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Main_Page
02:52:09 <rbergeron> It's an FSF event, so, not sure what the entire scoop is.
02:52:17 <rbergeron> Perhaps we can find someone who has attended in the past to comment on what the setup is, etc.
02:52:28 <rbergeron> Otherwise, yes, we can look at shipping things for local folks to attend.
02:52:46 <inode0> sounds good
02:52:56 <rbergeron> inode0: I was also thinking of Greg Kerr, who attended summit last year, and is local.
02:53:06 <rbergeron> as you probably recall he worked the fedora booth and I thought did an awesome job.
02:53:12 <inode0> yes, he did
02:54:08 * rbergeron wonders if anyone would be interested in reaching out to him that's in this meeting :)
02:54:14 <rbergeron> other than me and john :)
02:54:27 <rbergeron> FREE ACTIONS FOR TAKING
02:54:28 <rbergeron> ;)
02:55:04 <rbergeron> ah, well, perhaps we can copy him on the ticket, and get some feedback.
02:55:16 <inode0> #action inode0 will hunt down Greg Kerr and lure him into going to a conference for us
02:55:35 <inode0> piling up actions is fun - try it
02:55:43 <rbergeron> no way, really? :)
02:55:54 <inode0> .famnaticket 15
02:55:55 <zodbot> inode0: #15 (Devopsday 2012, Apr 2-3, Austin, TX) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/15
02:56:13 <rbergeron> #info this is an event I was hoping to get some feedback from ke4qqq about
02:56:28 <inode0> we can wait for his feedback
02:56:39 <inode0> .famnaticket 16
02:56:40 <zodbot> inode0: #16 (OpenStack Design Summit & Conference 2012, Apr 16-20, San Francisco, CA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/16
02:56:40 * rbergeron notes link is in the ticket for those who care
02:56:51 <inode0> last one!
02:56:54 <rbergeron> YAY
02:57:16 <rbergeron> #info this conference has two parts - first 3 days are design summit, for contributors, mostly about setting direction of the project for next 6 months
02:57:47 <rbergeron> #info second half is for users, potential contributors, etc. - and there typically have been a few booths, at least at the one i previously attended
02:58:05 <rbergeron> I'd like to at least send Media and pamphlets with the large swarm of openstack folks working on the openstack features in fedora
02:58:20 <rbergeron> (which btw get a lot of press attention)
02:58:49 <rbergeron> I'd like to at least consider having a booth on the last few days, and would be happy to staff it along with some other knowledgeable folks
02:58:53 <inode0> we have folks in the area who might investigate options too
02:59:33 <rbergeron> the audience is very narrowly focused on cloud - so food for thought.
02:59:47 <rbergeron> perhaps greg and david should go staff the booth. LOL ;)
02:59:48 * rbergeron kids
02:59:53 <rbergeron> (slightly)
03:00:04 <inode0> we have cloudy ambassadors
03:00:37 <inode0> ok, I'm about to go to open floor for a few minutes of overtime but first
03:00:46 <rbergeron> inode0: suggestions?
03:00:50 <inode0> back to devopsday
03:00:55 * rbergeron nods
03:01:29 <inode0> just wanted to mention here with a larger audience that this might be an opportunity for a nearby developer type to help out
03:01:53 <inode0> probably not a regular ambassador/booth event
03:02:12 <inode0> so if anyone sees this and is interested contact us
03:02:30 <inode0> #topic Open Floor
03:02:46 <inode0> Did everyone see the frisbees?
03:02:50 <rbergeron> inode0: that statement fairly well applies to the openstack event as well.
03:02:54 <rbergeron> inode0: yes :)
03:03:52 <inode0> I will talk to Mario about how we do the design stuff for swag and proceed to get an acceptable design and pricing
03:03:55 * nb would like to remind all shippers to please check their tickets in the famnarequests trac and let someone know if you need help filling requests
03:04:05 <nb> we have some that have been waiting like 3 months
03:04:12 <inode0> I think some of these might be nice at, oh say, a hotdog cookout
03:04:19 * nb is glad to help if someone needs things shipped
03:04:26 <rbergeron> HOT DOGS
03:04:48 * rbergeron wondres if there are old requests for grills or tongs or etc
03:05:00 * inode0 suggests nb just kidnap tickets that appear abandoned
03:05:32 <inode0> don't worry about stepping on toes
03:05:47 <Jsandys> LAC, Linux Audio Conference, April 12-15, Stanford University, first time in the USA.
03:05:48 <inode0> almost certainly they have been forgotten
03:06:19 <Jsandys> fedora is already sponsoring, I will attend, and may need media, leftovers will go to LFNW.
03:06:27 <rbergeron> we are?
03:06:39 <inode0> interesting we don't know about that :)
03:06:48 <Jsandys> PlanetCCRMA is the reason I use fedora
03:07:04 <Jsandys> http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2012/
03:07:12 * rbergeron notes that we have been asked - as in they went directly to commarch, as they've gotten money there in the past - and i requested that given the state of the budget, that the request come to ambassadors.
03:07:56 * rbergeron will look into it and sighs heavily
03:08:41 <inode0> Jsandys: regardless of the surprise please forge straight ahead with it!
03:09:00 <Jsandys> I don't need $$$, and planned to go anyway
03:09:24 <Jsandys> I talk to the Sanford folks
03:09:35 <inode0> I would like to learn more about this one and think it might be a great opportunity
03:10:53 * inode0 stops reading the website
03:11:18 <inode0> I don't want to go past 9:15 so are there any other things we should discuss?
03:11:51 <inode0> Mario also did some investigation of multi-touch systems this week which is much appreciated.
03:12:46 <inode0> ok, let's wrap it up for tonight
03:12:48 <inode0> thanks everyone
03:12:56 <inode0> #endmeeting