05:02:01 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
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05:02:06 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:02:24 <tagoh> #topic agenda and roll call
05:02:38 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-01-12
05:02:56 <tagoh> hi guys, let's have i18n meeting. who else here today?
05:03:09 <anish_> hi tagoh
05:03:19 <dueno> hi
05:03:49 <epico_laptop> hi
05:03:50 <juhp> hi
05:04:29 <paragan> hi
05:04:32 <fujiwarat> hi
05:07:24 <tagoh> okay, let's get started then.
05:07:31 <tagoh> #topic F17
05:07:56 <tagoh> so how's your features going on? any updates for them?
05:08:34 <anish_> ibus-european-table-1.1.3-1. is stable now
05:08:49 <anish_> english-typing-booster-0.0.1-2 is under testing
05:09:03 <tagoh> cool.
05:09:03 * epico_laptop is fixing new bugs in pinyin parser2 of libpinyin.
05:09:15 <anish_> tagoh, thanks
05:10:09 <dingyichen> hi
05:10:21 <tagoh> anish_: are you planning to install them by default at this time? just wonder if you have updated comps if it's the case.
05:11:38 <anish_> tagoh, "by default" i am not getting it
05:13:19 <tagoh> anish_: if you want to install it to your system at anaconda say, you need to update comps to get it in.
05:13:55 <anish_> tagoh, thanks
05:13:57 <tagoh> otherwise users need to pull it in manually with yum command etc.
05:14:24 <anish_> tagoh, i will add it in coms
05:15:34 <tagoh> are you expecting to use it for most latin languages?
05:15:57 <anish_> its size is enormous so i am dubious about should it be part of mandatory or optional packages ?
05:16:24 <anish_> i am planning to use it for most of the latin languages
05:16:30 <tagoh> do we need to get rid of the hardcoding locales in imsettings to activate it for latin languages? dunno
05:17:04 <anish_> nope locales are not hardcoded
05:17:18 * juhp installs english-typing-booster
05:17:25 <anish_> you need database for each of the language
05:17:45 <paragan> need to think about live image size also befor emaking them mandatory
05:17:53 <juhp> probably optional in @input-methods would be fine for now
05:18:05 <juhp> ?
05:18:06 <tagoh> anish_: it's in imsettings to avoid ibus running on all of locales.
05:18:29 <anish_> tagoh, ohh i was thinking in other way
05:19:12 <pravins> hi
05:19:44 <tagoh> juhp: sure. dunno if people will installs it by the hand though.
05:20:07 * juhp is trying out typing booster
05:20:17 <tagoh> guess it may be needed for some promotion to call for testers?
05:20:18 <pravins> tagoh, i think yum groupinstall lang-support should pull it
05:20:27 <juhp> tagoh: true
05:21:06 <juhp> I think probably need to do some more testing first before making it more widely available?
05:21:14 <juhp> anyway
05:21:21 <anish_> juhp, agree with you
05:21:23 <juhp> still some time before alpha/beta :)
05:21:24 <tagoh> pravins: no lang to go.
05:21:31 <tagoh> juhp: agreed
05:21:52 <pravin_s> tagoh: aha, talking about english-typing-booster, i thought it is indic-TB :)
05:22:00 <juhp> I think I have some feedback already :)
05:22:12 <tagoh> cool
05:22:19 <anish_> juhp, that would be great :)
05:22:29 <juhp> sure
05:23:43 <juhp> pravins, yeah may be good for Indic booster
05:24:09 <pravins> juhp: sure
05:24:24 <tagoh> are we missing anything else packages in comps?
05:25:04 <tagoh> how about other features?
05:25:07 <pravins> tagoh: yet to add bengali-typing-booster-inscript,probhat and phonetic
05:25:18 <pravins> also last week packaged new fonts for Kannada
05:25:30 <pravins> navilu-fonts and gubbi-fonts that is also remaining
05:25:42 <tagoh> cool
05:25:59 <pravins> tagoh: will do it today :)
05:26:13 <pravins> tagoh: IndicUnicode6 is approved by FESCO now
05:26:32 <tagoh> great!
05:26:42 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/indicunicode6
05:27:02 <pravins> oops correct one is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IndicUnicode6
05:27:49 <pravins> and, have wrote some points for 22OfficialIndianLangaugeSupport yesterday, will create feature page today
05:28:03 <pravins> tagoh: juhp Fedora 17 is going to rock for indian languages
05:28:36 <tagoh> cool. yep
05:28:53 <pravins> We have inscript2, indicunicode6 and even now 22 Official indian language first time in any opensource distro :)
05:28:55 <juhp> nice
05:29:13 <juhp> :-)
05:30:39 <tagoh> pravins: does it obsolete Features/Kashmiri and Features/Sindhi ?
05:31:04 <pravins> tagoh: yes
05:31:15 <tagoh> okay, good then.
05:31:20 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Sindhi
05:31:21 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Kashmiri
05:31:21 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Maithili
05:31:21 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Konkani
05:32:25 <tagoh> epico_laptop: btw thanks for updating the scope in feature page for libpinyin.
05:32:49 <epico_laptop> tagoh: welcome:)
05:32:52 <tagoh> pravins: aha
05:33:28 <tagoh> okay, anything else for f17?
05:37:02 <tagoh> better move on then.
05:37:08 <tagoh> #topic Input Methods
05:37:21 <tagoh> any updates or news to share?
05:40:42 <tagoh> fujiwarat: any news for ibus?
05:40:50 <dueno> just submitted updates of ibus-hangul and ibus-skk/libskk for F16/15
05:41:15 <tagoh> dueno: cool
05:43:05 <fujiwarat> I'm working on ibus xkb integration in upsteam. xkb engines will be enabled by default.
05:43:59 <tagoh> fujiwarat: aha. is it available in alpha or beta?
05:45:07 <fujiwarat> I'd like to think the target is alpha. Probably I need to rewrite ibus-gjs too.
05:45:37 <tagoh> okay, yeah, that would be good for testing too.
05:46:04 <fujiwarat> Also it would be good if all pygtk2 engines are changed to gir.
05:46:35 <tagoh> aha
05:48:38 <tagoh> okay, let's move on then.
05:48:50 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:49:14 <tagoh> any updates or concerns etc for fonts/rendering?
05:51:02 <pravins> tagoh: not done much work on font side
05:51:20 <tagoh> pravins: okay
05:52:18 <tagoh> guess I should ping behdad for fontconfig again...
05:53:01 <pravins> tagoh: yes, that will be very useful, for some new languages we need updated fontconfig in Fedora
05:53:34 <pravins> tagoh: i saw pango and fontconfig ownership got change in Fedora
05:53:53 <tagoh> right
05:54:16 <tagoh> guess because he didn't change their password and ssh key on fas.
05:55:12 <pravins> aha
05:56:24 <tagoh> okay, anything else?
05:56:41 <tagoh> or any topics we are missing in the agenda?
05:59:23 <tagoh> otherwise let's close the meeting shortly.
06:00:47 <tagoh> okay, thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:00:52 <tagoh> #endmeeting