04:00:41 #startmeeting 04:00:41 Meeting started Sat Dec 10 04:00:41 2011 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:00:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:00:47 #meetingname APAC 04:00:47 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 04:01:08 #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:01:09 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-12-10#Agenda 04:01:20 .fas Abhishek Singh 04:01:20 aks: bablu 'Abhishek Singh' - singhhabhishek 'abhishek' - singhabhishek 'Abhishek Kumar Singh' - aks 'Abhishek Singh' 04:01:22 #chair bckurera tuanta Suresht 04:01:22 Current chairs: Suresht bckurera dramsey tuanta 04:01:28 #chair aks 04:01:28 Current chairs: Suresht aks bckurera dramsey tuanta 04:01:36 .fas dramsey 04:01:37 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:01:39 .fas tuanta 04:01:41 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:01:44 .fas aks.abhishek@gmail.com 04:01:45 aks: aks 'Abhishek Singh' 04:01:53 .fas suresht 04:01:54 Suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' 04:02:29 .fas bckurera 04:02:29 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 04:02:32 next topic? 04:03:13 Hi lcafiero_laptop :) 04:03:20 Hello Everyone! 04:03:56 Hi harish :) 04:04:02 dramsey, hey! 04:04:08 rushed back home to get online! 04:04:12 hi harish 04:04:22 We are very honored to have you here, Harish. 04:04:24 Suresht, hi! 04:04:27 #chair harish 04:04:27 Current chairs: Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta 04:04:29 nice to see ya harish 04:04:38 glad to be here! 04:04:41 +1 dramsey 04:05:05 * FranciscoD jumps in! 04:05:06 #chair FranciscoD 04:05:06 Current chairs: FranciscoD Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta 04:05:07 * harish wondering if the meeting has started. 04:05:08 hey FranciscoD 04:05:12 Hi FranciscoD 04:05:23 Yes, meeting just started Harish 04:05:27 ok 04:05:30 hello all :) 04:05:33 shall we move 04:05:39 hi all 04:05:39 go go go 04:06:19 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:06:55 congrats to all who've been elected to FAmSCo! 04:07:05 #info FAmcSo election 2011 results are out 04:07:21 welcome udinnet 04:07:30 Oh sorry I'm late 04:07:31 congrats to all (no me :) 04:07:48 bckurera: hi :) 04:08:01 hello everybody 04:08:05 #chair udinnet 04:08:05 Current chairs: FranciscoD Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet 04:08:17 Congratulations for the FAmSCo elected. 04:08:19 So what is going on 04:08:22 ? 04:08:55 dramsey +1 04:09:02 Congrats and I think this is a great FAmSCo; so we can hope for wonder this time. Good luck and Congrats from Sri Lanka 04:09:14 udinnet we are on the FAmSCo news 04:09:14 especially from apac kaio and gbraad 04:09:24 .fas harishpillay 04:09:25 harish: harishpillay 'Harish Pillay' 04:09:38 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-12-10 04:09:40 .fas ankursinha 04:09:41 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 04:09:47 .fas udinnet 04:09:47 udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' 04:10:05 Other news or should we move to next topic? 04:10:06 Further I heard that FAmSCo is going to change the meeting time 04:10:16 Oh that is news! 04:10:22 bckurera, do you know what time? 04:10:29 most of the time it will be on Wednesday but not yet confirmed right 04:10:45 no dramsey still there is no confirmation 04:10:51 i need to try to make the famsco meetings - atleast once a month. 04:11:01 thats great harish 04:11:07 yes 04:11:15 bckurera, thank you, that makes sense to me. +1 harish 04:11:18 that is great 04:11:30 BTW I hope this time we will have a/some representative from the FAmSCo for the regional meetings 04:11:33 +1 harish 04:11:57 will move I think no any other news 04:12:20 You got it, bckurera 04:13:18 Unfortunate, I have a power cut, my battery will giveme power for another 30 mins 04:13:33 bckurera: i just had one! 04:13:38 ha ha I'm in the same boat 04:13:38 :P 04:13:48 #chair FranciscoD_ 04:13:48 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet 04:13:52 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:13:53 wow what happned to APAC :) :) 04:13:55 undo 04:13:57 #undo 04:13:57 Removing item from minutes: 04:14:07 #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting 04:14:11 XD 04:14:24 #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-26/apac.2011-11-26-03.58.html 04:14:28 for action items. 04:14:54 1.magie will put the process on the wiki on how to produce low cost fedora mug for yoru events 04:15:33 Have received feedback from herlo on the EC2 work on System Administration and an initial poll from the APAC Fedora Ambassadors. 04:16:17 magie is not available right ? 04:16:29 Suresgt: yes 04:16:30 KageSenshi you there? 04:16:31 dramsey, i heard it :) 04:16:41 I think you're right 04:17:38 Other updates or next topic? 04:17:42 before moving can I get some minutes? 04:17:43 action 2.Suresh creates a wiki page for APAC Plans 2012 04:17:56 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Plans_2012 04:18:34 Please, do bckurera 04:18:41 I missed this at the beginning 04:18:54 We should welcome our new FAm from Sri Lanka 04:18:57 Suresht: nice work 04:19:04 udinnet got sponsored recently 04:19:05 :) 04:19:13 So lets welcome him 04:19:14 Yeah thanks 04:19:19 :) 04:19:50 #chair FranciscoD 04:19:50 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet 04:19:56 Hello udinnet 04:20:21 ok thanks for minutes will proceed 04:20:23 hello dramsey, and thanks a lot for the welcome 04:20:23 bckurera: did you mentor udinnet ? 04:20:44 nope, I was mentored by azneita 04:20:46 nope azneita is the mentor :) 04:20:50 :) 04:20:54 ah, okay great :D 04:21:09 \o 04:21:10 * FranciscoD met azneita at FUDCon Pune :) 04:21:14 any other action item left? 04:21:17 KageSenshi: o/ 04:21:31 I also need catch someone to mentor them :) 04:21:39 #chair KageSenshi 04:21:39 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet 04:21:41 #chair KageSenshi 04:21:41 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet 04:21:48 ohh sorry tuanta 04:21:50 Hi KageSenshi 04:22:04 KageSenshii: hi 04:22:29 so next? 04:22:30 hi :) 04:22:39 Sounds good Tuan 04:22:41 KageSenshi: hi 04:22:50 #topic APAC events 04:23:04 We have hot news here! 04:23:05 :) 04:23:19 udinnet: go on, proceed :) 04:23:22 please udinnet 04:23:47 we done our Fedora Introduction Event on 8th and there were about 300 people 04:23:48 :) 04:24:04 wow, 300 ppl, a lot! 04:24:07 I'll upload the pics soon 04:24:16 have you got time to write report? 04:24:22 and report is on its way 04:24:27 good stuff, udinnet. 04:24:30 ;) 04:24:31 great 04:24:33 nice :D 04:24:35 yes lot of ppl I saw it too :) 04:24:39 cool 04:24:45 it would be a good experience for all of us 04:24:50 Awesome. 04:24:53 +1 04:24:59 #chair MarkDude 04:24:59 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi MarkDude Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet 04:25:05 .fas MarkDude 04:25:05 tuanta: markdude 'Mark Terranova' 04:25:11 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011 04:25:37 :) 04:25:47 We are also planning to push a customized spin of Fedora into Government Offices here at Nepal. Have already done two trainings in this regard - 1) For Ministry of Science & Technology officials 2) FOSS training/orientation for government officers 04:25:55 ^^^, here at Nepal 04:26:05 wow cool 04:26:11 great aks 04:26:15 that's a well kept page udinnet :) 04:26:18 I see you in the organizers list: "Uditha Bandara - Fedora LK Community Member, Sri Lanka" 04:26:31 aks: woah, great, great news :) 04:26:32 udinnet: you are not an ambassador? 04:26:38 FranciscoD: thanks 04:26:40 ;) 04:26:40 ohh sorry for that 04:26:49 event page has been created befor he got sponsored 04:26:53 have to update it 04:26:55 we are at a phase of community building, and we plan to start development to support government requirements in a few months 04:26:58 .fasinfo udinnet 04:26:59 bckurera: User: udinnet, Name: Uditha Bandara Wijerathna, email: udithabnd@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-08-19, IRC Nick: udinnet, Timezone: Asia/Jayapura, Locale: en, Extension: 5157804, GPG key ID: 76D7B582, Status: active 04:27:03 bckurera: Unapproved Groups: marketing 04:27:07 bckurera: Approved Groups: ambassadors freemedia cla_fpca cla_done 04:27:18 bckurera: thanks 04:27:19 yes he is :) 04:27:28 aks: if you need any help, please do not hesitate to catch hold of us ;) 04:27:32 please update the wiki asasp 04:27:38 FranciscoD: sure, thanks 04:27:41 sure 04:28:01 done 04:28:12 thanks 04:28:17 we distributed F16 live Cds 04:28:27 and fedora infinity stickers to the participants 04:28:27 and also stickers 04:28:28 Most excellent! 04:28:56 there were three speakers 04:28:57 udinnet: great 04:29:04 sorry i got disconnected :( 04:29:08 I ll write an event report soon, but it needs some time :( 04:29:15 chair Suresh 04:29:20 #chair Suresh 04:29:20 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi MarkDude Suresh Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet 04:29:24 what do you talk at the event, bckurera and udinnet? 04:29:33 bad command :( 04:29:41 tuanta agenda can be found at the wiki 04:30:10 I meant, could you share your presentation if available 04:30:12 bckurera: I'll write the report if you're busy. no worries 04:30:49 sure, we do have 04:30:56 Udinnet that is great then I can do a blog post when I have time :) 04:31:13 cool 04:31:17 lets move 04:31:21 any other events? 04:31:23 we'll also share our presentations 04:31:30 +1 bckurera and udinnet 04:31:44 ok, udinnet, please share all in your report 04:32:13 +1 04:32:13 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events#APAC 04:32:23 Overall we had a great turnout from APAC 04:32:40 The first release party was held and more to come 04:32:54 #action udinnet write report of Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011 04:32:54 * FranciscoD intends to add one more to that ;) 04:33:00 I'm going to try to do something fedora related here in Bangalore in the new year. I'm going on vacation for 20days, so only once I get back will this come into motion. 04:33:02 ha ha :) it was great 04:33:03 +1 FranciscoD 04:33:07 for .MY there will be a FAD some time next month or february .. not yet confirmed on the date 04:33:26 over the last few days, I've realized that there are quite a few *active* FAms in Bangalore :) 04:33:27 +1 KageSenshi, we look forward to your update 04:33:45 +1 dramsey 04:33:59 ok :) 04:34:24 * KageSenshi thinking on hacking on a packagekit app store on that day 04:34:25 +1 dramsey 04:34:45 @here, I will present about Fedora community at FOSS@HUS next week 04:34:57 #link http://fossathus.com/lich-trinh 04:34:59 tuanta: nice :D 04:35:14 +1 Tuan very good tuanta! 04:35:42 nice, can't understand the language though :) 04:35:55 udinnet: +1 :) 04:35:58 one of my goals is to present Fedora at all FOSS events in Vietnam and region 04:36:09 you can use Google translate :) 04:36:13 tuanta: I'll owe you a beer if you can do that ;) 04:36:28 that = *all* events :P 04:36:37 tuanta: thanks for the advice ;) 04:36:38 * Suresh intended to do Fedora_Awareness evnts 04:36:39 beer? 04:36:40 :) 04:36:59 well that's all I can offer as bribe here ;) 04:37:01 #link http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=vi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffossathus.com%2Flich-trinh 04:37:02 FranciscoD how's this ? http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&u=http://fossathus.com/lich-trinh 04:37:12 +1 Tuan :D 04:37:25 dramsey: much better :D 04:37:34 FranciscoD, thanks for your beer 04:37:45 I will note it in my heart :) 04:37:51 Beer, universal currency 04:38:01 see you next time in Hanoi or Bangalore :) 04:38:07 tuanta: sure :D 04:38:22 MarkDude: +1 ;) 04:38:30 haha 04:38:38 XD 04:38:38 +1 MarkDude 04:38:44 I ll handover CDs to suresht soon and lk.fc.o should be setuped soon 04:38:51 those are the future to-dos 04:38:59 except to ppl who dont drink :P .. 04:39:03 udinnet did you get any solution for the IP? 04:39:10 +1 bckurera 04:39:22 KageSenshi: lol, they can watch :P 04:39:30 :P 04:39:34 I'm sorry. I'll check it today and call you back 04:39:36 or... shhhHHHh ;) 04:39:41 haha 04:39:55 should we move on? 04:39:57 I was @ colombo yesterday 04:39:57 no worries will do it 04:40:02 yes pls tuanta 04:40:07 tuanta: ok 04:40:08 bckurera: udinnet : please blog regularly about what you're doing 04:40:12 my battery is not that strong to hold this :) 04:40:14 Move forward, Tuan 04:40:16 #topic Status of F16 Release Parties 04:40:29 any more release parties? 04:40:42 FranciscoD : i am missing it always and it is a big mistake from me :( 04:40:53 I ll try my best to type more and more :) 04:41:01 tuanta: nay, i guess 04:41:14 move pls>> 04:41:20 harish, how about reimbursement for completed release parties? 04:41:20 bckurera: no issues, i understand: remember I owe you that article :P 04:41:37 is there any more outstanding, tuanta? 04:41:45 yes, I have one 04:41:49 Yeah sure; I know how hard to write something :) 04:41:54 for F16 rp 04:41:57 filed? 04:41:57 bckurera: don't worry. I'll update you about the IP details @ the evening for sure 04:42:15 great do it slowly udinnet 04:42:33 the #230, harish 04:42:51 ok, let me check that. perhaps i can hand it to you next week when i am in hanoi. 04:43:03 harish I ll file the receipts for media this weekend with photos of the media 04:43:11 it has been reviewed by FAmSCo 04:43:14 bckurera, ok 04:43:18 tuanta, ok 04:43:25 now I am a photo lover 04:43:33 harish, tuanta: we need to work on the budget/swag ticketing system, as they are not quite handled properly 04:43:35 yes, I see, you will be in Hanoi next week :) 04:43:43 * MarkDude wants to use the pics from the event you folks had for use iin a Foundations video. 04:43:49 my request for swags had no response 04:44:10 aks, yes, we need a cleaner way to handle these. 04:44:14 bckurera: do license the pics appropriately so the community can use them :) 04:44:14 aks, could you please give a link? 04:44:31 +1 FranciscoD, cc 04:44:38 Can we add an agenda item for someone to pic the best of the pics, and send em to me? 04:44:58 +1 MarkDude 04:45:03 MarkDude: wouldnt you be the best judge on what pics you'd like to use? 04:45:12 MarkDude, you meant the pics of release parties? 04:45:15 seems like I have to leave now 04:45:17 I have some good stuff from Pune, but want stuff from all over 04:45:17 (they'll be publically available) 04:45:27 battery is going down 04:45:29 then finally select the winning pic :) 04:45:39 I hate power cut thats an info :) 04:45:45 tuanta, harish: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/12 04:45:51 bckurera: heh, have fun :) 04:46:42 tuanta: next topic while harish looks at that ticket? 04:46:55 #action harish should review the famsco ticket #230 of tuanta and the apac ticket #12 of aks 04:47:14 #topic APAC plans for 2012(Suresh) 04:47:28 * harish reviewed both tickets 04:47:31 your turn, Suresh 04:47:48 oh ok :) 04:47:58 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Plans_2012 04:48:06 btw i forget 04:48:12 bye bye folks 04:48:18 I ll read the logs 04:48:23 anyway i come with draft version 04:48:25 bckurera: bye 04:48:26 bye, bckurera 04:48:28 bckurera: bye, thanks for coming :) 04:48:33 c u bckurera 04:48:36 tuanta pls carry on 04:48:44 later bckurera 04:48:52 thanks for all for participating and forgive me for leaving :) 04:49:28 Suresh: please proceed 04:49:29 :) 04:50:17 I'm back 04:50:20 harish:actually it's harish idea " Fedora code computation" 04:50:34 s/computation/competition/ 04:50:53 sorry 04:51:01 harish: please elaborate on the "Fedora code computation" 04:51:07 ok .. i was wondering what was going to be computed 04:51:08 >.< 04:51:14 * FranciscoD too :P 04:51:18 s/computation/competition/ 04:51:21 s/computation/competition/ 04:51:29 :) 04:51:30 we need to process this and how can we work out 04:51:36 for every region 04:51:36 i thoought it'd be one of those things dramsey keeps doing on his *big* systems :P 04:51:52 Suresh: nice idea 04:52:05 FranciscoD, :P 04:52:08 we run a contest that brings people to Fedora. Perhaps something that is of interest to university students. Perhaps some game. whatever. 04:52:18 harish, +1 04:52:24 and Year end Ambassadors report. 04:52:26 the idea is to have a focal point for activities that center around fedora and the platform. 04:52:28 harish: sounds good 04:52:29 Suresh, harish : are the details worked out yet? for instance how it's going to be done? 04:52:39 say we use arduino as the target 04:52:47 arduino works within Fedora 04:52:48 that's awesome :) 04:52:52 yup 04:52:52 (and how its going to be funded... especially: prizes) 04:53:03 and that's how my 2 sons got to know of open hardware as well. 04:53:13 yes +1 KageSenshi 04:53:16 harish: that's a great idea, please do keep us updated with progress 04:53:32 +1 harish 04:53:32 I think prizes are something that we can plan for - I think I could fund something. but we need something to fund. 04:53:41 harish: +1 04:53:45 I'm going to be working on arduios during my vacation, so I think I'll be able to help you out if you need sessions etc to get people started :) 04:53:52 my two sons (4 and 8 years old) are also using Fedora :) 04:54:07 +1 FranciscoD 04:54:11 i can't do it myself. i look to the APAC ambassadors to take this idea and flesh it out. i can help in the discussion and throw in ideas. 04:54:27 we have a number of arduino geeks here in .MY .. i believe they would be interested to help out the event 04:54:33 thanks harish 04:54:41 thanks harish KageSenshi :) 04:54:44 though they are not exactly fedora ppl though :) 04:54:49 arduino is just one topic. we can do other areas as well. 04:54:50 * hanthana is late :( sorry about that 04:54:53 KageSenshi: time you converted them ;) 04:55:00 perhaps the "app store" 04:55:04 FranciscoD, their mind already set :) 04:55:05 lets try how can we work out for that :) 04:55:06 harish: sure 04:55:09 hanthana: hello 04:55:15 udinnet: hey 04:55:27 hanthana: hello 04:55:34 hanthana: hi 04:55:37 #chair hanthana 04:55:37 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi MarkDude Suresh Suresht aks bckurera dramsey hanthana harish tuanta udinnet 04:55:37 * FranciscoD waves to hanthana 04:55:44 .fas hanthana 04:55:45 tuanta: snavin 'Danishka Navin' 04:55:47 FranciscoD, its not easy to convert someone who already attached deeply on a particular platform :) 04:56:06 KageSenshi: didn't you try beer already? or ssshhhh...? :P 04:56:14 KageSenshi: that is 100% true 04:56:21 its like trying to make someone change religion .. lol XD 04:56:23 +1 FranciscoD 04:56:25 :) 04:56:40 anyway back to topic 04:56:44 I understand, KageSenshi :) 04:56:51 :D 04:56:59 Suresh: please proceed :) 04:57:15 but we done it in here for few people. They moved from windows and still the feedback is great 04:57:22 :) 04:57:36 great to hear udinnet :) 04:57:36 Major events per release: 04:57:38 udinnet, windows ppl are not really religious .. but windows devs can be :) 04:57:42 Suresh, have you got a detailed plan for "Pinging inactive ambassadors" 04:57:50 There will be two fedora release(f17 and f18) so we have to schedule two major events for the particular release from each counties. 04:57:56 yes 04:58:00 KageSenshi: windows devs is kinda an oxymoron ;) 04:58:13 please share your plan on the wiki 04:58:28 FranciscoD, ok rephrase .. those who have spend their life developing stuff on windows :) 04:58:40 Suresh: can you elaborate on "major events" 04:58:47 I mean, what is the scale of these events? 04:58:50 KageSenshi: +1 04:58:51 just created feedback form i will figureout sum of emails and then forwadingf to them 04:59:05 not FUDCon scale surely? we wont have that many funds 04:59:08 Leaving now, take care APAC you can do it! 04:59:09 bye 04:59:16 bye, dramsey 04:59:17 dramsey: bye 04:59:20 whoyes not like that i mean FAD 04:59:29 later, dramsey! 04:59:40 tata dramsey :) 04:59:45 dramsey: have a nice day! 04:59:48 can i bring up a marketing question? 04:59:49 SEE U dramsey 04:59:52 Suresh: ah, right, please do mention all of this info in there :) 04:59:54 harish: sure 05:00:08 yes sure :) 05:00:09 c u dramsey 05:00:12 the more the details, the less the confusion, the better the event :) 05:00:14 FranciscoD, fudcon scale can be done :) .. just not fudcon funding format .. 05:00:38 RH APAC marketing runs a page on facebook that can be visited/viewed without an account on facebook and is a landing and jump off page. - http://www.facebook.com/RedhatAPAC 05:00:40 KageSenshi: very difficult IMO. mether didn't sleep for six months :/ 05:00:43 more info can be found later in this month 05:00:46 FranciscoD, a fad with 300 ppl is quite fudcon scale imo :) 05:00:50 they are asking if Fedora would want to something similar. 05:00:53 hehe :D 05:01:25 wow nice harish :) 05:01:26 harish: we do have some fedora stuff on FB already, let me look 05:01:27 my personal stand is that so long as there is no need to log in to facebook to look at the contents, i think it is ok. 05:01:57 uhm, why give out an IPAD as the prize though ? :) 05:02:07 just wondering ;) 05:02:08 those who have facebook accounts can get into it and those who don't can move to appropriate pages. 05:02:14 yes, pathetic. 05:02:15 FranciscoD, android tablets pls 05:02:35 FranciscoD, or better, some tablet which can run fedora :) 05:02:35 as they say in singapore/malaysia "akan datang" (coming soon). 05:02:38 KageSenshi: +1 adnroid tabs are cool 05:02:40 yeah, something android or FOSS related would be better :) 05:02:55 * KageSenshi wonder when google+ going to implement the multi admin support .. need to give out the access to ambassadors 05:03:07 i think release events are not make much difference to our market share unless we did a good press coverage 05:03:32 harish: i think its a great idea 05:03:40 just think about number of participants per event 05:03:50 the intent of the idea for rh marketing is that we can have deep links from the facebook.com page to inside fp.org 05:03:51 yes, it would be good to have a fedora page in a similar fashion, but no IPAD on it please ;) 05:04:05 woudlnt send the right message IMO 05:04:22 FranciscoD: true 05:04:28 the thinking is also that there are people who live on facebook 24/7 that can be attracted to us and by have a non-login-needed page, we can sort of achieve that. 05:04:44 hanthana: press coverage, hrm, someone needs to do a "how-to" on that 05:04:49 harish, +1 05:04:56 I for instance, have no inkling how to even contact the press :/ 05:05:07 harish: we could use multiple FB pages for major locals + interested communities 05:05:18 hanthana, that is true. Contributors are worth more than gold sometimes :) Quality of the eyeballs should not be forgotten. Like having event at hacker space 05:05:25 yep , wrt to press, while i might have links who knows some press contacts .. i have no idea how to write press release 05:05:43 Suresh: about the form: 05:05:53 so looking at the http://www.facebook.com/RedhatAPAC 05:05:53 page, we can do stuff without a fb account and sort of engage with people there. 05:05:57 1. its on google docs. I recently learnt people dont like that 05:06:13 you can click on the "Wall" on the left and shows stuff happening. 05:06:18 FranciscoD: you mean feedback form ? 05:06:26 2. email -> FAS email 05:06:28 harish: +1 05:06:29 Suresh: yes 05:06:33 it is not an elegant idea, but does merit some thinking and discussion. 05:06:57 * harish i've gotta go in a few minutes, btw. 05:07:00 yes i am collecting inactive ppl email address and then forwarding to them 05:07:01 3. the local time needs a defined format, otherwise it'll be very cumbersome for you to organize all that data 05:07:02 One problem with press is that they don't give much prominence to technology (in this case software), and for technology, they either only cover gadgets (ipad, galaxy ..) or some copied news for reuters etc 05:07:08 I had a hard time working with press 05:07:10 harish, before u leave, any news on freemedia ? 05:07:28 Suresh: query: if they are inactive, what makes you think they'll fill the form? :/ 05:07:30 KageSenshi, i have nothing to add to the freemedia questio. 05:07:33 KageSenshi, i have nothing to add to the freemedia question. 05:07:38 harish, it would be great if we can get some early january .. 05:07:39 what about it. 05:07:45 harish: KageSenshi : what is the free media question? 05:07:53 * FranciscoD 's ears prick up! 05:07:58 yep what freemedia question? .. 05:08:11 i'm just wondering when can get freemedia :) 05:08:17 oh! lol :) 05:08:18 will need it for FAD 05:08:18 there were question like "Available day and time for meeting * 05:08:19 i am making a whole lot of f16 64-bit live cds for APAC 05:08:27 on their own 05:08:29 harish: great :) 05:08:50 i will post the info when it is ready for shipping 05:09:03 Suresh: alright, you'll need to rethink this a little IMO, 05:09:09 harish, any estimated date? so that i can make the FAD run after we get the freemedia :) 05:09:13 what the purpose of the form is etc 05:09:24 FranciscoD: sure i will be critical i know. 05:09:27 i hope in about 10 days. 05:09:36 harish, cool .. thanks 05:09:36 iirc the design team uses something to decide their timings Suresh 05:09:38 harish: ok 05:09:45 I can't recall what its called though 05:10:06 * harish have to step away now. thanks for the meeting. 05:10:21 see you harish :) 05:10:26 It's over 1h :), move on now? 05:10:37 FranciscoD: that's what you have done :) 05:10:40 #topic Ambassadors' survey quick look(ankursinha) 05:11:01 i do not think so again it needed . 05:11:05 harish_afk, bye :) 05:11:09 +1 on the survey, everybody do it. 05:11:22 later harish \o 05:11:23 MarkDude +1 05:11:47 see you next week, in Hanoi, harish 05:11:59 :D 05:12:07 then the last topic? 05:12:11 #topic Open Floor 05:12:17 woah! :P 05:12:26 we have done this already :) 05:12:40 with marketing on FB 05:12:43 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-12-10#Ambassadors.27_survey_quick_look.28ankursinha.29 05:12:55 ok, please FranciscoD 05:13:04 I;d like each to do the survey, to please lead by example 05:13:11 #action Ambassadors' survey quick look 05:13:15 I'd also like each to read others responses in the survey 05:13:30 please do everone 05:13:33 did anyone notice kaio's email about FAD at Linux Conference Australia 2012 05:14:23 any other thought :) 05:14:30 I'd like each one to also go throught the responses in the survey 05:14:38 it is on 16-20 05:14:42 a lot of people have voiced their concerns. 05:14:56 not related to ambassadors, but do you guys proper AppStore / AppMarket for fedora is good ? 05:14:57 i wouldnt want them to be ignored :) 05:15:22 i've been procrastinating in coding it since 3 years ago .. lol 05:15:30 +1 FranciscoD_ 05:15:36 #info Suresh won Fedora Raffle T-Shirt 05:15:41 *do you guys /think/ a proper 05:15:44 * MarkDude also would like to point out that suggestions can be ways to improveme things. 05:16:01 fill the survey: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFN3emtQdEhVMGdKTXNWX0lWdkVXUmc6MQ 05:16:12 results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al73WBsvtlGodFN3emtQdEhVMGdKTXNWX0lWdkVXUmc 05:16:23 guys Microsoft is helping us to deploy Fedora or its remixes in local schools 05:16:28 +1 MarkDude 05:16:34 FranciscoD_, I think you need to summarize something from the survey 05:16:46 I'd like to request all of you to please join the local contacts scheme :) 05:16:47 http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/reviving-the-india-local-contacts-program/ 05:17:06 tuanta: well, the most common issues seem to be swag and media for events related 05:17:45 write a summary, then you should discuss on it whole the year 2012 05:17:58 that's always been an issue, but its time we handled it 05:18:09 tuanta: I'm waiting for more folks to fill up ;) 05:18:22 tuanta: I also feel, we should have a quaterly survey 05:18:32 +1 FranciscoD_ 05:18:33 it gives the ambassadors to voice their concerns 05:18:51 +1 FranciscoD 05:18:54 otherwise, people sit quiet, and since no one knows whats wrong, nothing is ever solved 05:19:09 Time to leave folks, please continue with the good work 05:19:14 it'll also give famsco a better idea about what is going on with ambassadors 05:19:18 bye aks 05:19:24 not to mention, it tells us who is and who is not active ;) 05:19:34 bye aks, thank you for coming 05:19:45 see you all :) 05:19:55 most of you are already local contacts, so I hope you wont mind adding your names to the list 05:19:57 FranciscoD_, it should be a work of FAmSCo, but keep going on, please 05:20:11 i think that's all for me :) 05:20:31 just throwing this out here: http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/a-fedora-classroom-on-vim/ 05:20:37 in case any one's interested :) 05:20:43 :wq! 05:21:13 ok I mentioned something laterly 05:21:17 +1 FranciscoD_ 05:21:28 tuanta: it is famsco's responsibility, but we need to interact more with them to actually help them carry out their responsibilities :) 05:21:37 EOL 05:21:55 thanks FranciscoD_ 05:21:59 any others? 05:22:08 or should we close today meeting? 05:22:08 about FAD at Linux Conference Australia 2012 05:22:30 do you have any plans for that? 05:22:31 * KageSenshi mention my question again .. what u guys think of appmarket for fedora/packagekit ? 05:22:41 * FranciscoD uses yum, so no comments :P 05:22:45 imo, we are very behind on this .. 05:22:58 ok :0 05:22:59 end users are getting very used to the appmarket concept to discover applications 05:23:14 but I would like to read more on this and maybe help out if I can KageSenshi :) 05:23:18 while we are still in package-market era 05:23:32 * MarkDude thinks if Fedora does not have an App cnter like place, we could fall behind a bit 05:23:35 building one on plone is easy, i just need to find time 05:23:44 udinnet: I havent heard anything about LinuxCon Australia yet 05:23:45 i already checked that packagekit-web is quite ready for this 05:23:48 FranciscoD: KageSenshi please be in loop we have to do more things in 2012 05:23:57 Hi all, sorry im late. 05:24:09 hi LMartinez 05:24:10 but you should mail the list and query folks IMO udinnet 05:24:14 #chair LMartinez 05:24:14 Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi LMartinez MarkDude Suresh Suresht aks bckurera dramsey hanthana harish tuanta udinnet 05:24:19 hi LMartinez :) 05:24:23 hey LMartinez 05:24:24 Suresh: sure will 05:24:35 it's time to discuss about LCA2012, LMartinez 05:24:36 FranciscoD: yes I'll 05:24:43 Hi, FranciscoD, Suresh, tuan (tuanta) 05:24:46 but there was a mail from kaio 05:24:54 FranciscoD, yeah will be writing about it .. :) 05:25:14 though knowing fedora community, i think i should code some stuff first XD 05:25:24 +1 :P 05:25:41 IXD 05:25:42 XD 05:25:46 tuanta: you can close meeting if everyones had their say ;) 05:25:54 I just want to touch on LCA2012 05:25:56 else the idea will just be debated , and might end up demoralized 05:25:57 lol 05:26:14 KageSenshi: the foss way: want something, do it, dont ask people ;) 05:26:22 FranciscoD, yep :) 05:26:45 * FranciscoD is also still learning this way 05:26:51 -1 for bikesheeding, easier to ask for forgiveness than permission sometimes 05:26:55 LMartinez: ah great, Please do tell us 05:27:06 #action LMartinez invites everyone to contribute to the discussion on the ambassadors mailing list about LCA2012 05:27:22 +1 LMartinez 05:27:26 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2012 05:27:46 MarkDude, :) 05:27:54 I'll be updating that page later 05:27:56 MarkDude: +1 :) 05:28:01 LMartinez: sure :) 05:28:14 * FranciscoD wont make it but can support it remotely :D 05:28:32 #info sadly, DGilmore will not be attending. 05:28:39 ^ sorry for the ping. :P 05:28:52 XD 05:29:15 I need to know if anyone is interested in attending 05:29:33 I know kaio is coming 05:29:58 * FranciscoD cant, not enough vacations to travel abroad, 05:30:06 also will be pretty expensive :/ 05:30:14 ok, well I'm done today 05:30:38 tuanta: call for close? We're already way past time :) 05:30:49 I'll call around on monday for FAD location + I'll start budgeting 05:30:49 want to attend, but doubt its possible as i got to ensure that i got payments XD .. this month and next month will be quite tight for me and my company.. 05:31:16 FranciscoD, lets keep talking :) 05:31:23 it's a fine meeting 05:31:42 :D 05:31:42 XD 05:32:07 KageSenshi: you haven't filled the survey, have you!?!?! 05:32:27 + 1 for ending meeting, then keeping talking :) 05:32:31 grrrr 05:32:31 FranciscoD, err .. the one on gdocs? i've submitted one just now 05:32:33 FranciscoD :) 05:32:45 * FranciscoD goes to refresh :P 05:32:46 or are we talking about a different survey? 05:32:48 he owes you a beer, FranciscoD :) 05:33:07 lol, nah same one :P 05:33:13 ok :) 05:33:14 still are we in open floor 05:33:29 I think we are done, I want to read logs tho. 05:33:29 yes, still in Open Floor 05:33:31 well ... probably open floor can be moved to #fedora-apac :) 05:33:46 ok, thanks all 05:33:47 once the "official" meeting is done with :P 05:33:47 It's logged here though 05:33:54 * FranciscoD needs to go brush :P 05:34:07 so interesting meeting 05:34:11 please end the meeting though 1 and harlf hour's 05:34:26 I think we are done 05:34:27 tuanta: doenst want to end it XD 05:34:36 * MarkDude has survey page open, filling in answers now... Have a guest coming over soon tho 05:34:40 -_-" 05:34:45 :) 05:34:54 thanks all, 5 05:34:57 4 05:35:01 3 05:35:04 2 05:35:07 1 05:35:07 Bye 05:35:11 0.5 05:35:12 :D 05:35:12 I'll once again request everyone to fill the survey and request others to fill up 05:35:17 Whats the link? 05:35:18 plesae :) 05:35:23 FranciscoD? 05:35:45 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFN3emtQdEhVMGdKTXNWX0lWdkVXUmc6MQ 05:35:50 #endmeeting