04:00:41 <dramsey> #startmeeting
04:00:41 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Dec 10 04:00:41 2011 UTC.  The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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04:00:47 <dramsey> #meetingname APAC
04:00:47 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac'
04:01:08 <dramsey> #topic Ambassador Pinging
04:01:09 <dramsey> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-12-10#Agenda
04:01:20 <aks> .fas Abhishek Singh
04:01:20 <zodbot> aks: bablu 'Abhishek Singh' <abhishek.singhjr@gmail.com> - singhhabhishek 'abhishek' <singhh.abhishek@in.com> - singhabhishek 'Abhishek Kumar Singh' <singhabhishek.bit@gmail.com> - aks 'Abhishek Singh' <aks.abhishek@gmail.com>
04:01:22 <dramsey> #chair bckurera tuanta Suresht
04:01:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: Suresht bckurera dramsey tuanta
04:01:28 <dramsey> #chair aks
04:01:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: Suresht aks bckurera dramsey tuanta
04:01:36 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
04:01:37 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
04:01:39 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:01:41 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:01:44 <aks> .fas aks.abhishek@gmail.com
04:01:45 <zodbot> aks: aks 'Abhishek Singh' <aks.abhishek@gmail.com>
04:01:53 <Suresht> .fas suresht
04:01:54 <zodbot> Suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' <sureshp8@gmail.com>
04:02:29 <bckurera> .fas bckurera
04:02:29 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com>
04:02:32 <dramsey> next topic?
04:03:13 <dramsey> Hi lcafiero_laptop  :)
04:03:20 <dramsey> Hello Everyone!
04:03:56 <dramsey> Hi harish  :)
04:04:02 <harish> dramsey, hey!
04:04:08 <harish> rushed back home to get online!
04:04:12 <Suresht> hi harish
04:04:22 <dramsey> We are very honored to have you here, Harish.
04:04:24 <harish> Suresht, hi!
04:04:27 <dramsey> #chair harish
04:04:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta
04:04:29 <bckurera> nice to see ya harish
04:04:38 <harish> glad to be here!
04:04:41 <bckurera> +1 dramsey
04:05:05 * FranciscoD jumps in!
04:05:06 <dramsey> #chair FranciscoD
04:05:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta
04:05:07 * harish wondering if the meeting has started.
04:05:08 <Suresht> hey FranciscoD
04:05:12 <dramsey> Hi FranciscoD
04:05:23 <dramsey> Yes, meeting just started Harish
04:05:27 <harish> ok
04:05:30 <FranciscoD> hello all :)
04:05:33 <bckurera> shall we move
04:05:39 <tuanta> hi all
04:05:39 <harish> go go go
04:06:19 <dramsey> #topic News from  FAmSCo
04:06:55 <harish> congrats to all who've been elected to FAmSCo!
04:07:05 <bckurera> #info FAmcSo election 2011 results are out
04:07:21 <bckurera> welcome udinnet
04:07:30 <udinnet> Oh sorry I'm late
04:07:31 <tuanta> congrats to all (no me :)
04:07:48 <udinnet> bckurera: hi :)
04:08:01 <udinnet> hello everybody
04:08:05 <tuanta> #chair udinnet
04:08:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet
04:08:17 <dramsey> Congratulations for the FAmSCo elected.
04:08:19 <udinnet> So what is going on
04:08:22 <udinnet> ?
04:08:55 <udinnet> dramsey +1
04:09:02 <bckurera> Congrats and I think this is a great FAmSCo; so we can hope for wonder this time. Good luck and Congrats from Sri Lanka
04:09:14 <bckurera> udinnet we are on the FAmSCo news
04:09:14 <Suresht> especially from apac kaio and gbraad
04:09:24 <harish> .fas harishpillay
04:09:25 <zodbot> harish: harishpillay 'Harish Pillay' <harish.pillay@gmail.com>
04:09:38 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-12-10
04:09:40 <FranciscoD> .fas ankursinha
04:09:41 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com>
04:09:47 <udinnet> .fas udinnet
04:09:47 <zodbot> udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' <udithabnd@gmail.com>
04:10:05 <dramsey> Other news or should we move to next topic?
04:10:06 <bckurera> Further I heard that FAmSCo is going to change the meeting time
04:10:16 <dramsey> Oh that is news!
04:10:22 <dramsey> bckurera, do you know what time?
04:10:29 <bckurera> most of the time it will be on Wednesday but not yet confirmed right
04:10:45 <bckurera> no dramsey still there is no confirmation
04:10:51 <harish> i need to try to make the famsco meetings - atleast once a month.
04:11:01 <bckurera> thats great harish
04:11:07 <udinnet> yes
04:11:15 <dramsey> bckurera, thank you, that makes sense to me.  +1 harish
04:11:18 <udinnet> that is great
04:11:30 <bckurera> BTW I hope this time we will have a/some representative from the FAmSCo for the regional meetings
04:11:33 <aks> +1 harish
04:11:57 <bckurera> will move I think no any other news
04:12:20 <dramsey> You got it, bckurera
04:13:18 <bckurera> Unfortunate, I have a power cut, my battery will giveme power for another 30 mins
04:13:33 <FranciscoD_> bckurera: i just had one!
04:13:38 <udinnet> ha ha I'm in the same boat
04:13:38 <FranciscoD_> :P
04:13:48 <dramsey> #chair FranciscoD_
04:13:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet
04:13:52 <dramsey> #topic News from  FAmSCo
04:13:53 <bckurera> wow what happned to APAC :) :)
04:13:55 <dramsey> undo
04:13:57 <dramsey> #undo
04:13:57 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0xa12b2d0>
04:14:07 <dramsey> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting
04:14:11 <FranciscoD> XD
04:14:24 <dramsey> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-26/apac.2011-11-26-03.58.html
04:14:28 <dramsey> for action items.
04:14:54 <Suresht> 1.magie will put the process on the wiki on how to produce low cost fedora mug for yoru events
04:15:33 <dramsey> Have received feedback from herlo on the EC2 work on System Administration and an initial poll from the APAC Fedora Ambassadors.
04:16:17 <Suresht> magie is not available right ?
04:16:29 <udinnet> Suresgt: yes
04:16:30 <bckurera> KageSenshi you there?
04:16:31 <Suresht> dramsey, i heard it :)
04:16:41 <udinnet> I think you're right
04:17:38 <dramsey> Other updates or next topic?
04:17:42 <bckurera> before moving can I get some minutes?
04:17:43 <Suresht> action 2.Suresh creates a wiki page for APAC Plans 2012
04:17:56 <Suresht> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Plans_2012
04:18:34 <dramsey> Please, do bckurera
04:18:41 <bckurera> I missed this at the beginning
04:18:54 <bckurera> We should welcome our new FAm from Sri Lanka
04:18:57 <udinnet> Suresht: nice work
04:19:04 <bckurera> udinnet got sponsored recently
04:19:05 <FranciscoD_> :)
04:19:13 <bckurera> So lets welcome him
04:19:14 <udinnet> Yeah thanks
04:19:19 <udinnet> :)
04:19:50 <dramsey> #chair FranciscoD
04:19:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet
04:19:56 <dramsey> Hello udinnet
04:20:21 <bckurera> ok thanks for minutes will proceed
04:20:23 <udinnet> hello dramsey, and thanks a lot for the welcome
04:20:23 <FranciscoD> bckurera: did you mentor udinnet ?
04:20:44 <udinnet> nope, I was mentored by azneita
04:20:46 <bckurera> nope azneita is the mentor :)
04:20:50 <udinnet> :)
04:20:54 <FranciscoD> ah, okay great :D
04:21:09 <KageSenshi> \o
04:21:10 * FranciscoD met azneita at FUDCon Pune :)
04:21:14 <bckurera> any other action item left?
04:21:17 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: o/
04:21:31 <tuanta> I also need catch someone to mentor them :)
04:21:39 <tuanta> #chair KageSenshi
04:21:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet
04:21:41 <bckurera> #chair KageSenshi
04:21:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet
04:21:48 <bckurera> ohh sorry tuanta
04:21:50 <dramsey> Hi KageSenshi
04:22:04 <aks> KageSenshii: hi
04:22:29 <tuanta> so next?
04:22:30 <KageSenshi> hi :)
04:22:39 <dramsey> Sounds good Tuan
04:22:41 <udinnet> KageSenshi: hi
04:22:50 <tuanta> #topic APAC events
04:23:04 <udinnet> We have hot news here!
04:23:05 <udinnet> :)
04:23:19 <FranciscoD> udinnet: go on, proceed :)
04:23:22 <tuanta> please udinnet
04:23:47 <udinnet> we done our Fedora Introduction Event on 8th and there were about 300 people
04:23:48 <udinnet> :)
04:24:04 <tuanta> wow, 300 ppl, a lot!
04:24:07 <udinnet> I'll upload the pics soon
04:24:16 <tuanta> have you got time to write report?
04:24:22 <udinnet> and report is on its way
04:24:27 <harish> good stuff, udinnet.
04:24:30 <udinnet> ;)
04:24:31 <tuanta> great
04:24:33 <FranciscoD> nice :D
04:24:35 <bckurera> yes lot of ppl I saw it too :)
04:24:39 <KageSenshi> cool
04:24:45 <tuanta> it would be a good experience for all of us
04:24:50 <MarkDude> Awesome.
04:24:53 <FranciscoD> +1
04:24:59 <tuanta> #chair MarkDude
04:24:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi MarkDude Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet
04:25:05 <tuanta> .fas MarkDude
04:25:05 <zodbot> tuanta: markdude 'Mark Terranova' <mark@gidgetkitchen.org>
04:25:11 <udinnet> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011
04:25:37 <MarkDude> :)
04:25:47 <aks> We are also planning to push a customized spin of Fedora into Government Offices here at Nepal. Have already done two trainings in this regard - 1) For Ministry of Science & Technology officials 2) FOSS training/orientation for government officers
04:25:55 <aks> ^^^, here at Nepal
04:26:05 <udinnet> wow cool
04:26:11 <bckurera> great aks
04:26:15 <FranciscoD> that's a well kept page udinnet :)
04:26:18 <tuanta> I see you in the organizers list: "Uditha Bandara - Fedora LK Community Member, Sri Lanka"
04:26:31 <FranciscoD> aks: woah, great, great news :)
04:26:32 <tuanta> udinnet: you are not an ambassador?
04:26:38 <udinnet> FranciscoD: thanks
04:26:40 <udinnet> ;)
04:26:40 <bckurera> ohh sorry for that
04:26:49 <bckurera> event page has been created befor he got sponsored
04:26:53 <bckurera> have to update it
04:26:55 <aks> we are at a phase of community building, and we plan to start development to support government requirements in a few months
04:26:58 <bckurera> .fasinfo udinnet
04:26:59 <zodbot> bckurera: User: udinnet, Name: Uditha Bandara Wijerathna, email: udithabnd@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-08-19, IRC Nick: udinnet, Timezone: Asia/Jayapura, Locale: en, Extension: 5157804, GPG key ID: 76D7B582, Status: active
04:27:03 <zodbot> bckurera: Unapproved Groups: marketing
04:27:07 <zodbot> bckurera: Approved Groups: ambassadors freemedia cla_fpca cla_done
04:27:18 <udinnet> bckurera: thanks
04:27:19 <bckurera> yes he is :)
04:27:28 <FranciscoD> aks: if you need any help, please do not hesitate to catch hold of us ;)
04:27:32 <tuanta> please update the wiki asasp
04:27:38 <aks> FranciscoD: sure, thanks
04:27:41 <udinnet> sure
04:28:01 <bckurera> done
04:28:12 <udinnet> thanks
04:28:17 <bckurera> we distributed F16 live Cds
04:28:27 <bckurera> and fedora infinity stickers to the participants
04:28:27 <udinnet> and also stickers
04:28:28 <dramsey> Most excellent!
04:28:56 <udinnet> there were three speakers
04:28:57 <aks> udinnet: great
04:29:04 <Suresh> sorry i got disconnected :(
04:29:08 <bckurera> I ll write an event report soon, but it needs some time :(
04:29:15 <bckurera> chair Suresh
04:29:20 <dramsey> #chair Suresh
04:29:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi MarkDude Suresh Suresht aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta udinnet
04:29:24 <tuanta> what do you talk at the event, bckurera and udinnet?
04:29:33 <bckurera> bad command :(
04:29:41 <bckurera> tuanta agenda can be found at the wiki
04:30:10 <tuanta> I meant, could you share your presentation if available
04:30:12 <udinnet> bckurera: I'll write the report if you're busy. no worries
04:30:49 <udinnet> sure, we do have
04:30:56 <bckurera> Udinnet that is great then I can do a blog post when I have time :)
04:31:13 <udinnet> cool
04:31:17 <tuanta> lets move
04:31:21 <tuanta> any other events?
04:31:23 <udinnet> we'll also share our presentations
04:31:30 <dramsey> +1 bckurera and udinnet
04:31:44 <tuanta> ok, udinnet, please share all in your report
04:32:13 <FranciscoD> +1
04:32:13 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events#APAC
04:32:23 <dramsey> Overall we had a great turnout from APAC
04:32:40 <bckurera> The first release party was held and more to come
04:32:54 <tuanta> #action udinnet write report of Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011
04:32:54 * FranciscoD intends to add one more to that ;)
04:33:00 <FranciscoD> I'm going to try to do something fedora related here in Bangalore in the new year. I'm going on vacation for 20days, so only once I get back will this come into motion.
04:33:02 <udinnet> ha ha :) it was great
04:33:03 <dramsey> +1 FranciscoD
04:33:07 <KageSenshi> for .MY there will be a FAD some time next month or february .. not yet confirmed on the date
04:33:26 <FranciscoD> over the last few days, I've realized that there are quite a few *active* FAms in Bangalore :)
04:33:27 <dramsey> +1 KageSenshi, we look forward to your update
04:33:45 <FranciscoD> +1 dramsey
04:33:59 <KageSenshi> ok :)
04:34:24 * KageSenshi thinking on hacking on a packagekit app store on that day
04:34:25 <udinnet> +1 dramsey
04:34:45 <tuanta> @here, I will present about Fedora community at FOSS@HUS next week
04:34:57 <tuanta> #link http://fossathus.com/lich-trinh
04:34:59 <FranciscoD> tuanta: nice :D
04:35:14 <dramsey> +1 Tuan very good tuanta!
04:35:42 <udinnet> nice, can't understand the language though :)
04:35:55 <FranciscoD> udinnet: +1 :)
04:35:58 <tuanta> one of my goals is to present Fedora at all FOSS events in Vietnam and region
04:36:09 <tuanta> you can use Google translate :)
04:36:13 <FranciscoD> tuanta: I'll owe you a beer if you can do that ;)
04:36:28 <FranciscoD> that = *all* events :P
04:36:37 <udinnet> tuanta: thanks for the advice ;)
04:36:38 * Suresh intended to do Fedora_Awareness evnts
04:36:39 <bckurera> beer?
04:36:40 <bckurera> :)
04:36:59 <FranciscoD> well that's all I can offer as bribe here ;)
04:37:01 <tuanta> #link http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=vi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffossathus.com%2Flich-trinh
04:37:02 <dramsey> FranciscoD how's this ?  http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&u=http://fossathus.com/lich-trinh
04:37:12 <dramsey> +1 Tuan  :D
04:37:25 <FranciscoD> dramsey: much better :D
04:37:34 <tuanta> FranciscoD, thanks for your beer
04:37:45 <tuanta> I will note it in my heart :)
04:37:51 <MarkDude> Beer, universal currency
04:38:01 <tuanta> see you next time in Hanoi or Bangalore :)
04:38:07 <FranciscoD> tuanta: sure :D
04:38:22 <FranciscoD> MarkDude: +1 ;)
04:38:30 <KageSenshi> haha
04:38:38 <udinnet> XD
04:38:38 <tuanta> +1 MarkDude
04:38:44 <bckurera> I ll handover CDs to suresht soon and lk.fc.o should be setuped soon
04:38:51 <bckurera> those are the future to-dos
04:38:59 <KageSenshi> except to ppl who dont drink :P ..
04:39:03 <bckurera> udinnet did you get any solution for the IP?
04:39:10 <Suresh> +1 bckurera
04:39:22 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: lol, they can watch :P
04:39:30 <KageSenshi> :P
04:39:34 <udinnet> I'm sorry. I'll check it today and call you back
04:39:36 <FranciscoD> or... shhhHHHh ;)
04:39:41 <KageSenshi> haha
04:39:55 <tuanta> should we move on?
04:39:57 <udinnet> I was @ colombo yesterday
04:39:57 <bckurera> no worries will do it
04:40:02 <bckurera> yes pls tuanta
04:40:07 <aks> tuanta: ok
04:40:08 <FranciscoD> bckurera: udinnet : please blog regularly about what you're doing
04:40:12 <bckurera> my battery is not that strong to hold this :)
04:40:14 <dramsey> Move forward, Tuan
04:40:16 <tuanta> #topic Status of F16 Release Parties
04:40:29 <tuanta> any more release parties?
04:40:42 <bckurera> FranciscoD : i am missing it always and it is a big mistake from me :(
04:40:53 <bckurera> I ll try my best to type more and more :)
04:41:01 <FranciscoD> tuanta: nay, i guess
04:41:14 <bckurera> move pls>>
04:41:20 <tuanta> harish, how about reimbursement for completed release parties?
04:41:20 <FranciscoD> bckurera: no issues, i understand: remember I owe you that article :P
04:41:37 <harish> is there any more outstanding, tuanta?
04:41:45 <tuanta> yes, I have one
04:41:49 <bckurera> Yeah sure; I know how hard to write something :)
04:41:54 <tuanta> for F16 rp
04:41:57 <harish> filed?
04:41:57 <udinnet> bckurera: don't worry. I'll update you about the IP details @ the evening for sure
04:42:15 <bckurera> great do it slowly udinnet
04:42:33 <tuanta> the #230, harish
04:42:51 <harish> ok, let me check that. perhaps i can hand it to you next week when i am in hanoi.
04:43:03 <bckurera> harish I ll file the receipts for media this weekend with photos of the media
04:43:11 <tuanta> it has been reviewed by FAmSCo
04:43:14 <harish> bckurera, ok
04:43:18 <harish> tuanta, ok
04:43:25 <bckurera> now I am a photo lover
04:43:33 <aks> harish, tuanta: we need to work on the budget/swag ticketing system, as they are not quite handled properly
04:43:35 <tuanta> yes, I see, you will be in Hanoi next week :)
04:43:43 * MarkDude wants to use the pics from the event you folks had for use iin a Foundations video.
04:43:49 <aks> my request for swags had no response
04:44:10 <harish> aks, yes, we need a cleaner way to handle these.
04:44:14 <FranciscoD> bckurera: do license the pics appropriately so the community can use them :)
04:44:14 <tuanta> aks, could you please give a link?
04:44:31 <tuanta> +1 FranciscoD, cc
04:44:38 <MarkDude> Can we add an agenda item for someone to pic the best of the pics, and send em to me?
04:44:58 <Suresh> +1 MarkDude
04:45:03 <FranciscoD> MarkDude: wouldnt you be the best judge on what pics you'd like to use?
04:45:12 <tuanta> MarkDude, you meant the pics of release parties?
04:45:15 <bckurera> seems like I have to leave now
04:45:17 <MarkDude> I have some good stuff from Pune, but want stuff from all over
04:45:17 <FranciscoD> (they'll be publically available)
04:45:27 <bckurera> battery is going down
04:45:29 <Suresh> then finally select the winning pic :)
04:45:39 <bckurera> I hate power cut thats an info :)
04:45:45 <aks> tuanta, harish: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/12
04:45:51 <FranciscoD> bckurera: heh, have fun :)
04:46:42 <FranciscoD> tuanta: next topic while harish looks at that ticket?
04:46:55 <tuanta> #action harish should review the famsco ticket #230 of tuanta and the apac ticket #12 of aks
04:47:14 <tuanta> #topic APAC plans for 2012(Suresh)
04:47:28 * harish reviewed both tickets
04:47:31 <tuanta> your turn, Suresh
04:47:48 <Suresh> oh ok :)
04:47:58 <Suresh> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Plans_2012
04:48:06 <Suresh> btw i forget
04:48:12 <bckurera> bye bye folks
04:48:18 <bckurera> I ll read the logs
04:48:23 <Suresh> anyway i come with draft version
04:48:25 <aks> bckurera: bye
04:48:26 <tuanta> bye, bckurera
04:48:28 <FranciscoD> bckurera: bye, thanks for coming :)
04:48:33 <Suresh> c u bckurera
04:48:36 <bckurera> tuanta pls carry on
04:48:44 <harish> later bckurera
04:48:52 <bckurera> thanks for all for participating and forgive me for leaving :)
04:49:28 <FranciscoD> Suresh: please proceed
04:49:29 <FranciscoD> :)
04:50:17 <udinnet> I'm back
04:50:20 <Suresh> harish:actually it's harish idea " Fedora code computation"
04:50:34 <harish> s/computation/competition/
04:50:53 <Suresh> sorry
04:51:01 <aks> harish: please elaborate on the "Fedora code computation"
04:51:07 <KageSenshi> ok .. i was wondering what was going to be computed
04:51:08 <KageSenshi> >.<
04:51:14 * FranciscoD too :P
04:51:18 <harish> s/computation/competition/
04:51:21 <aks> s/computation/competition/
04:51:29 <udinnet> :)
04:51:30 <Suresh> we need to process this and how can we work out
04:51:36 <Suresh> for every region
04:51:36 <FranciscoD> i thoought it'd be one of those things dramsey keeps doing on his *big* systems :P
04:51:52 <udinnet> Suresh: nice idea
04:52:05 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, :P
04:52:08 <harish> we run a contest that brings people to Fedora.  Perhaps something that is of interest to university students. Perhaps some game. whatever.
04:52:18 <KageSenshi> harish, +1
04:52:24 <Suresh> and Year end Ambassadors report.
04:52:26 <harish> the idea is to have a focal point for activities that center around fedora and the platform.
04:52:28 <aks> harish: sounds good
04:52:29 <FranciscoD> Suresh, harish : are the details worked out yet? for instance how it's going to be done?
04:52:39 <harish> say we use arduino as the target
04:52:47 <harish> arduino works within Fedora
04:52:48 <FranciscoD> that's awesome :)
04:52:52 <FranciscoD> yup
04:52:52 <KageSenshi> (and how its going to be funded... especially: prizes)
04:53:03 <harish> and that's how my 2 sons got to know of open hardware as well.
04:53:13 <Suresh> yes +1 KageSenshi
04:53:16 <FranciscoD> harish: that's a great idea, please do keep us updated with progress
04:53:32 <tuanta> +1 harish
04:53:32 <harish> I think prizes are something that we can plan for - I think I could fund something. but we need something to fund.
04:53:41 <udinnet> harish: +1
04:53:45 <FranciscoD> I'm going to be working on arduios during my vacation, so I think I'll be able to help you out if you need sessions etc to get people started :)
04:53:52 <tuanta> my two sons (4 and 8 years old) are also using Fedora :)
04:54:07 <Suresh> +1 FranciscoD
04:54:11 <harish> i can't do it myself. i look to the APAC ambassadors to take this idea and flesh it out. i can help in the discussion and throw in ideas.
04:54:27 <KageSenshi> we have a number of arduino geeks here in .MY .. i believe they would be interested to help out the event
04:54:33 <Suresh> thanks harish
04:54:41 <FranciscoD> thanks harish KageSenshi :)
04:54:44 <KageSenshi> though they are not exactly fedora ppl though :)
04:54:49 <harish> arduino is just one topic. we can do other areas as well.
04:54:50 * hanthana is late :( sorry about that
04:54:53 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: time you converted them ;)
04:55:00 <harish> perhaps the "app store"
04:55:04 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, their mind already set :)
04:55:05 <Suresh> lets try how can we work out for that :)
04:55:06 <FranciscoD> harish: sure
04:55:09 <udinnet> hanthana: hello
04:55:15 <hanthana> udinnet: hey
04:55:27 <aks> hanthana: hello
04:55:34 <Suresh> hanthana: hi
04:55:37 <tuanta> #chair hanthana
04:55:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi MarkDude Suresh Suresht aks bckurera dramsey hanthana harish tuanta udinnet
04:55:37 * FranciscoD waves to hanthana
04:55:44 <tuanta> .fas hanthana
04:55:45 <zodbot> tuanta: snavin 'Danishka Navin' <danishka@gmail.com>
04:55:47 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, its not easy to convert someone who already attached deeply on a particular platform :)
04:56:06 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: didn't you try beer already? or ssshhhh...? :P
04:56:14 <udinnet> KageSenshi: that is 100% true
04:56:21 <KageSenshi> its like trying to make someone change religion .. lol XD
04:56:23 <tuanta> +1 FranciscoD
04:56:25 <tuanta> :)
04:56:40 <KageSenshi> anyway back to topic
04:56:44 <tuanta> I understand, KageSenshi :)
04:56:51 <FranciscoD> :D
04:56:59 <FranciscoD> Suresh: please proceed :)
04:57:15 <udinnet> but we done it in here for few people. They moved from windows and still the feedback is great
04:57:22 <udinnet> :)
04:57:36 <FranciscoD> great to hear udinnet :)
04:57:36 <Suresh> Major events per release:
04:57:38 <KageSenshi> udinnet, windows ppl are not really religious .. but windows devs can be :)
04:57:42 <tuanta> Suresh, have you got a detailed plan for "Pinging inactive ambassadors"
04:57:50 <Suresh> There will be two fedora release(f17 and f18) so we have to schedule two major events for the particular release from each counties.
04:57:56 <Suresh> yes
04:58:00 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: windows devs is kinda an oxymoron ;)
04:58:13 <tuanta> please share your plan on the wiki
04:58:28 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, ok rephrase .. those who have spend their life developing stuff on windows :)
04:58:40 <FranciscoD> Suresh: can you elaborate on "major events"
04:58:47 <FranciscoD> I mean, what is the scale of these events?
04:58:50 <udinnet> KageSenshi: +1
04:58:51 <Suresh> just created feedback form i will figureout sum of emails and then forwadingf to them
04:59:05 <FranciscoD> not FUDCon scale surely? we wont have that many funds
04:59:08 <dramsey> Leaving now, take care APAC you can do it!
04:59:09 <dramsey> bye
04:59:16 <tuanta> bye, dramsey
04:59:17 <aks> dramsey: bye
04:59:20 <Suresh> whoyes not like that i mean FAD
04:59:29 <harish> later, dramsey!
04:59:40 <FranciscoD> tata dramsey :)
04:59:45 <hanthana> dramsey: have a nice day!
04:59:48 <harish> can i bring up a marketing question?
04:59:49 <Suresh> SEE U dramsey
04:59:52 <FranciscoD> Suresh: ah, right, please do mention all of this info in there :)
04:59:54 <aks> harish: sure
05:00:08 <Suresh> yes sure :)
05:00:09 <udinnet> c u dramsey
05:00:12 <FranciscoD> the more the details, the less the confusion, the better the event :)
05:00:14 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, fudcon scale can be done :) .. just not fudcon funding format ..
05:00:38 <harish> RH APAC marketing runs a page on facebook that can be visited/viewed without an account on facebook and is a landing and jump off page. - http://www.facebook.com/RedhatAPAC
05:00:40 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: very difficult IMO. mether didn't sleep for six months :/
05:00:43 <Suresh> more info can be found later in this month
05:00:46 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, a fad with 300 ppl is quite fudcon scale imo :)
05:00:50 <harish> they are asking if Fedora would want to something similar.
05:00:53 <FranciscoD> hehe :D
05:01:25 <Suresh> wow nice harish :)
05:01:26 <FranciscoD> harish: we do have some fedora stuff on FB already, let me look
05:01:27 <harish> my personal stand is that so long as there is no need to log in to facebook to look at the contents, i think it is ok.
05:01:57 <FranciscoD> uhm, why give out an IPAD as the prize though ? :)
05:02:07 <FranciscoD> just wondering ;)
05:02:08 <harish> those who have facebook accounts can get into it and those who don't can move to appropriate pages.
05:02:14 <harish> yes, pathetic.
05:02:15 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, android tablets pls
05:02:35 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, or better, some tablet which can run fedora :)
05:02:35 <harish> as they say in singapore/malaysia "akan datang" (coming soon).
05:02:38 <aks> KageSenshi: +1 adnroid tabs are cool
05:02:40 <FranciscoD> yeah, something android or FOSS related would be better :)
05:02:55 * KageSenshi wonder when google+ going to implement the multi admin support .. need to give out the access to ambassadors
05:03:07 <hanthana> i think release events are not make much difference to our market share unless we did a good press coverage
05:03:32 <FranciscoD> harish: i think its a great idea
05:03:40 <hanthana> just think about number of participants per event
05:03:50 <harish> the intent of the idea for rh marketing is that we can have deep links from the facebook.com page to inside fp.org
05:03:51 <FranciscoD> yes, it would be good to have a fedora page in a similar fashion, but no IPAD on it please ;)
05:04:05 <FranciscoD> woudlnt send the right message IMO
05:04:22 <aks> FranciscoD: true
05:04:28 <harish> the thinking is also that there are people who live on facebook 24/7 that can be attracted to us and by have a non-login-needed page, we can sort of achieve that.
05:04:44 <FranciscoD> hanthana: press coverage, hrm, someone needs to do a "how-to" on that
05:04:49 <KageSenshi> harish, +1
05:04:56 <FranciscoD> I for instance, have no inkling how to even contact the press :/
05:05:07 <hanthana> harish: we could use multiple FB pages for major locals + interested communities
05:05:18 <MarkDude> hanthana, that is true. Contributors are worth more than gold sometimes :) Quality of the eyeballs should not be forgotten. Like having event at hacker space
05:05:25 <KageSenshi> yep , wrt to press, while i might have links who knows some press contacts .. i have no idea how to write press release
05:05:43 <FranciscoD> Suresh: about the form:
05:05:53 <harish> so looking at the http://www.facebook.com/RedhatAPAC
05:05:53 <harish> page, we can do stuff without a fb account and sort of engage with people there.
05:05:57 <FranciscoD> 1. its on google docs. I recently learnt people dont like that
05:06:13 <harish> you can click on the "Wall" on the left and shows stuff happening.
05:06:18 <Suresh> FranciscoD: you mean feedback form ?
05:06:26 <FranciscoD> 2. email -> FAS email
05:06:28 <hanthana> harish: +1
05:06:29 <FranciscoD> Suresh: yes
05:06:33 <harish> it is not an elegant idea, but does merit some thinking and discussion.
05:06:57 * harish i've gotta go in a few minutes, btw.
05:07:00 <Suresh> yes i am collecting inactive ppl email address and then forwarding to them
05:07:01 <FranciscoD> 3. the local time needs a defined format, otherwise it'll be very cumbersome for you to organize all that data
05:07:02 <aks> One problem with press is that they don't give much prominence to technology (in this case software), and for technology, they either only cover gadgets (ipad, galaxy ..) or some copied news for reuters etc
05:07:08 <aks> I had a hard time working with press
05:07:10 <KageSenshi> harish, before u leave, any news on freemedia ?
05:07:28 <FranciscoD> Suresh: query: if they are inactive, what makes you think they'll fill the form? :/
05:07:30 <harish> KageSenshi, i have nothing to add to the freemedia questio.
05:07:33 <harish> KageSenshi, i have nothing to add to the freemedia question.
05:07:38 <KageSenshi> harish, it would be great if we can get some early january ..
05:07:39 <harish> what about it.
05:07:45 <FranciscoD> harish: KageSenshi : what is the free media question?
05:07:53 * FranciscoD 's ears prick up!
05:07:58 <KageSenshi> yep what freemedia question? ..
05:08:11 <KageSenshi> i'm just wondering when can get freemedia :)
05:08:17 <FranciscoD> oh! lol :)
05:08:18 <KageSenshi> will need it for FAD
05:08:18 <Suresh> there were question like "Available day and time for meeting *
05:08:19 <harish> i am making a whole lot of f16 64-bit live cds for APAC
05:08:27 <Suresh> on their own
05:08:29 <FranciscoD> harish: great :)
05:08:50 <harish> i will post the info when it is ready for shipping
05:09:03 <FranciscoD> Suresh: alright, you'll need to rethink this a little IMO,
05:09:09 <KageSenshi> harish, any estimated date? so that i can make the FAD run after we get the freemedia :)
05:09:13 <FranciscoD> what the purpose of the form is etc
05:09:24 <Suresh> FranciscoD: sure i will be critical i know.
05:09:27 <harish> i hope in about 10 days.
05:09:36 <KageSenshi> harish, cool .. thanks
05:09:36 <FranciscoD> iirc the design team uses something to decide their timings Suresh
05:09:38 <aks> harish: ok
05:09:45 <FranciscoD> I can't recall what its called though
05:10:06 * harish have to step away now. thanks for the meeting.
05:10:21 <Suresh> see you harish :)
05:10:26 <tuanta> It's over 1h :), move on now?
05:10:37 <Suresh> FranciscoD: that's what you have done :)
05:10:40 <tuanta> #topic Ambassadors' survey quick look(ankursinha)
05:11:01 <Suresh> i do not think so again it needed .
05:11:05 <KageSenshi> harish_afk, bye :)
05:11:09 <MarkDude> +1 on the survey, everybody do it.
05:11:22 <MarkDude> later harish \o
05:11:23 <udinnet> MarkDude +1
05:11:47 <tuanta> see you next week, in Hanoi, harish
05:11:59 <FranciscoD> :D
05:12:07 <tuanta> then the last topic?
05:12:11 <tuanta> #topic Open Floor
05:12:17 <FranciscoD> woah! :P
05:12:26 <tuanta> we have done this already :)
05:12:40 <tuanta> with marketing on FB
05:12:43 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-12-10#Ambassadors.27_survey_quick_look.28ankursinha.29
05:12:55 <tuanta> ok, please FranciscoD
05:13:04 <FranciscoD> I;d like each to do the survey, to please lead by example
05:13:11 <Suresh> #action Ambassadors' survey quick look
05:13:15 <FranciscoD> I'd also like each to read others responses in the survey
05:13:30 <Suresh> please do everone
05:13:33 <udinnet> did anyone notice kaio's email about FAD at Linux Conference Australia 2012
05:14:23 <Suresh> any other thought :)
05:14:30 <FranciscoD_> I'd like each one to also go throught the responses in the survey
05:14:38 <udinnet> it is on 16-20
05:14:42 <FranciscoD_> a lot of people have voiced their concerns.
05:14:56 <KageSenshi> not related to ambassadors, but do you guys proper AppStore / AppMarket for fedora is good ?
05:14:57 <FranciscoD_> i wouldnt want them to be ignored :)
05:15:22 <KageSenshi> i've been procrastinating in coding it since 3 years ago .. lol
05:15:30 <tuanta> +1 FranciscoD_
05:15:36 <Suresh> #info Suresh won Fedora Raffle T-Shirt
05:15:41 <KageSenshi> *do you guys /think/ a proper
05:15:44 * MarkDude also would like to point out that suggestions can be ways to improveme things.
05:16:01 <FranciscoD_> fill the survey: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFN3emtQdEhVMGdKTXNWX0lWdkVXUmc6MQ
05:16:12 <FranciscoD_> results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al73WBsvtlGodFN3emtQdEhVMGdKTXNWX0lWdkVXUmc
05:16:23 <hanthana> guys Microsoft is helping us to deploy Fedora or its remixes in local schools
05:16:28 <Suresh> +1 MarkDude
05:16:34 <tuanta> FranciscoD_, I think you need to summarize something from the survey
05:16:46 <FranciscoD_> I'd like to request all of you to please join the local contacts scheme :)
05:16:47 <FranciscoD_> http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/reviving-the-india-local-contacts-program/
05:17:06 <FranciscoD_> tuanta: well, the most common issues seem to be swag and media for events related
05:17:45 <tuanta> write a summary, then you should discuss on it whole the year 2012
05:17:58 <FranciscoD_> that's always been an issue, but its time we handled it
05:18:09 <FranciscoD_> tuanta: I'm waiting for more folks to fill up ;)
05:18:22 <FranciscoD_> tuanta: I also feel, we should have a quaterly survey
05:18:32 <tuanta> +1 FranciscoD_
05:18:33 <FranciscoD_> it gives the ambassadors to voice their concerns
05:18:51 <udinnet> +1 FranciscoD
05:18:54 <FranciscoD_> otherwise, people sit quiet, and since no one knows whats wrong, nothing is ever solved
05:19:09 <aks> Time to leave folks, please continue with the good work
05:19:14 <FranciscoD_> it'll also give famsco a better idea about what is going on with ambassadors
05:19:18 <udinnet> bye aks
05:19:24 <FranciscoD_> not to mention, it tells us who is and who is not active ;)
05:19:34 <FranciscoD_> bye aks, thank you for coming
05:19:45 <Suresh> see you all :)
05:19:55 <FranciscoD_> most of you are already local contacts, so I hope you wont mind adding your names to the list
05:19:57 <tuanta> FranciscoD_, it should be a work of FAmSCo, but keep going on, please
05:20:11 <FranciscoD_> i think that's all for me :)
05:20:31 <FranciscoD_> just throwing this out here: http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/a-fedora-classroom-on-vim/
05:20:37 <FranciscoD_> in case any one's interested :)
05:20:43 <KageSenshi> :wq!
05:21:13 <udinnet> ok I mentioned something laterly
05:21:17 <tuanta> +1 FranciscoD_
05:21:28 <FranciscoD_> tuanta: it is famsco's responsibility, but we need to interact more with them to actually help them carry out their responsibilities :)
05:21:37 <FranciscoD_> EOL
05:21:55 <tuanta> thanks FranciscoD_
05:21:59 <tuanta> any others?
05:22:08 <tuanta> or should we close today meeting?
05:22:08 <udinnet> about FAD at Linux Conference Australia 2012
05:22:30 <udinnet> do you have any plans for that?
05:22:31 * KageSenshi mention my question again .. what u guys think of appmarket for fedora/packagekit ?
05:22:41 * FranciscoD uses yum, so no comments :P
05:22:45 <KageSenshi> imo, we are very behind on this ..
05:22:58 <udinnet> ok :0
05:22:59 <KageSenshi> end users are getting very used to the appmarket concept to discover applications
05:23:14 <FranciscoD> but I would like to read more on this and maybe help out if I can KageSenshi :)
05:23:18 <KageSenshi> while we are still in package-market era
05:23:32 * MarkDude thinks if Fedora does not have an App cnter like place, we could fall behind a bit
05:23:35 <KageSenshi> building one on plone is easy, i just need to find time
05:23:44 <FranciscoD> udinnet: I havent heard anything about LinuxCon Australia yet
05:23:45 <KageSenshi> i already checked that packagekit-web is quite ready for this
05:23:48 <Suresh> FranciscoD: KageSenshi please be in loop we have to do more things in 2012
05:23:57 <LMartinez> Hi all, sorry im late.
05:24:09 <tuanta> hi LMartinez
05:24:10 <FranciscoD> but you should mail the list and query folks IMO udinnet
05:24:14 <tuanta> #chair LMartinez
05:24:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ KageSenshi LMartinez MarkDude Suresh Suresht aks bckurera dramsey hanthana harish tuanta udinnet
05:24:19 <FranciscoD> hi LMartinez :)
05:24:23 <Suresh> hey LMartinez
05:24:24 <FranciscoD> Suresh: sure will
05:24:35 <tuanta> it's time to discuss about LCA2012, LMartinez
05:24:36 <udinnet> FranciscoD: yes I'll
05:24:43 <LMartinez> Hi, FranciscoD, Suresh, tuan (tuanta)
05:24:46 <udinnet> but there was a mail from kaio
05:24:54 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, yeah will be writing about it .. :)
05:25:14 <KageSenshi> though knowing fedora community, i think i should code some stuff first XD
05:25:24 <FranciscoD> +1 :P
05:25:41 <udinnet> IXD
05:25:42 <udinnet> XD
05:25:46 <FranciscoD> tuanta: you can close meeting if everyones had their say ;)
05:25:54 <LMartinez> I just want to touch on LCA2012
05:25:56 <KageSenshi> else the idea will just be debated , and might end up demoralized
05:25:57 <KageSenshi> lol
05:26:14 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: the foss way: want something, do it, dont ask people ;)
05:26:22 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, yep :)
05:26:45 * FranciscoD is also still learning this way
05:26:51 <MarkDude> -1 for bikesheeding, easier to ask for forgiveness than permission sometimes
05:26:55 <FranciscoD> LMartinez: ah great, Please do tell us
05:27:06 <LMartinez> #action LMartinez invites everyone to contribute to the discussion on the ambassadors mailing list about LCA2012
05:27:22 <Suresh> +1 LMartinez
05:27:26 <LMartinez> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2012
05:27:46 <KageSenshi> MarkDude, :)
05:27:54 <LMartinez> I'll be updating that page later
05:27:56 <FranciscoD> MarkDude: +1 :)
05:28:01 <FranciscoD> LMartinez: sure :)
05:28:14 * FranciscoD wont make it but can support it remotely :D
05:28:32 <LMartinez> #info sadly, DGilmore will not be attending.
05:28:39 <LMartinez> ^ sorry for the ping. :P
05:28:52 <FranciscoD> XD
05:29:15 <LMartinez> I need to know if anyone is interested in attending
05:29:33 <LMartinez> I know kaio is coming
05:29:58 * FranciscoD cant, not enough vacations to travel abroad,
05:30:06 <FranciscoD> also will be pretty expensive :/
05:30:14 <LMartinez> ok, well I'm done today
05:30:38 <FranciscoD> tuanta: call for close? We're already way past time :)
05:30:49 <LMartinez> I'll call around on monday for FAD location + I'll start budgeting
05:30:49 <KageSenshi> want to attend, but doubt its possible as i got to ensure that i got payments XD .. this month and next month will be quite tight for me and my company..
05:31:16 <tuanta> FranciscoD, lets keep talking :)
05:31:23 <tuanta> it's a fine meeting
05:31:42 <LMartinez> :D
05:31:42 <FranciscoD> XD
05:32:07 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: you haven't filled the survey, have you!?!?!
05:32:27 <MarkDude> + 1 for ending meeting, then keeping talking :)
05:32:31 <FranciscoD> grrrr
05:32:31 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, err .. the one on gdocs? i've submitted one just now
05:32:33 <tuanta> FranciscoD :)
05:32:45 * FranciscoD goes to refresh :P
05:32:46 <KageSenshi> or are we talking about a different survey?
05:32:48 <tuanta> he owes you a beer, FranciscoD :)
05:33:07 <FranciscoD> lol, nah same one :P
05:33:13 <KageSenshi> ok :)
05:33:14 <Suresh> still are we in open floor
05:33:29 <LMartinez> I think we are done, I want to read logs tho.
05:33:29 <tuanta> yes, still in Open Floor
05:33:31 <KageSenshi> well ... probably open floor can be moved to #fedora-apac :)
05:33:46 <tuanta> ok, thanks all
05:33:47 <FranciscoD> once the "official" meeting is done with :P
05:33:47 <LMartinez> It's logged here though
05:33:54 * FranciscoD needs to go brush :P
05:34:07 <tuanta> so interesting meeting
05:34:11 <Suresh> please end the meeting though 1 and harlf hour's
05:34:26 <LMartinez> I think we are done
05:34:27 <FranciscoD> tuanta: doenst want to end it XD
05:34:36 * MarkDude has survey page open, filling in answers now... Have a guest coming over soon tho
05:34:40 <KageSenshi> -_-"
05:34:45 <tuanta> :)
05:34:54 <tuanta> thanks all, 5
05:34:57 <tuanta> 4
05:35:01 <tuanta> 3
05:35:04 <tuanta> 2
05:35:07 <tuanta> 1
05:35:07 <LMartinez> Bye
05:35:11 <tuanta> 0.5
05:35:12 <LMartinez> :D
05:35:12 <FranciscoD> I'll once again request everyone to fill the survey and request others to fill up
05:35:17 <LMartinez> Whats the link?
05:35:18 <FranciscoD> plesae :)
05:35:23 <LMartinez> FranciscoD?
05:35:45 <FranciscoD> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFN3emtQdEhVMGdKTXNWX0lWdkVXUmc6MQ
05:35:50 <tuanta> #endmeeting