04:01:31 #startmeeting 04:01:31 Meeting started Sat Oct 8 04:01:31 2011 UTC. The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:01:31 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:01:49 #meetingname APAC-special-FAD-meeting 04:01:49 The meeting name has been set to 'apac-special-fad-meeting' 04:01:52 .fas tuanta 04:01:53 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:02:08 hello all APAC FAms, nice to see you all 04:02:13 .fas bckurera 04:02:13 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 04:02:27 Buddhika Kurera from Sri Lanka 04:02:41 todays' agenda can be found 04:02:43 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-10-08 04:02:54 Hello, i'm Tuan, from Vietnam 04:03:12 Hello I'm udinnet from Sri Lanka 04:03:18 Just back from FUDCon Milan, so fun :) 04:03:23 Hello, I'm Luke from Australia 04:03:25 We will continue then others will join, I can see some FAms online but not yet ping 04:03:45 ok great 04:04:02 #topic FAmSCo news 04:04:14 Hi Luke 04:04:15 anything, any news? 04:04:25 Fedora 16 Beta has been released 04:04:38 LMartinez we miss asmartgoart ;) 04:04:50 yup it is a great news for all of us 04:05:07 Gnome 3.2 is a great talking point. 04:05:11 I don't think there is much more news 04:05:29 then next>> 04:05:35 ok 04:05:37 +1 Luke 04:05:43 :) 04:05:54 .fas izhar 04:05:55 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 04:06:02 #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting 04:06:09 bckurera, where is callkalpa? 04:06:32 chair tuanta, LMartinez, KageSenshi 04:06:40 \o 04:06:43 Hi kageSenshi 04:06:46 #chair tuanta, LMartinez, KageSenshi 04:06:46 Current chairs: KageSenshi LMartinez bckurera tuanta 04:06:54 hi tuanta , bckurera LMartinez :) 04:06:59 hi udinnet 04:07:00 hi KageSenshi 04:07:10 Hi KagSenshi 04:07:17 nice to see you all 04:07:32 sorry for delay adding chair and I have a great news too 04:07:37 i'm on my mobi phone, so i would be a bit slow. 04:07:49 First of all udinnet from Sri Lanka 04:07:53 Sure, bckurera 04:08:06 Thanks bckurera 04:08:15 for introduction 04:08:15 new to Fedora Ambassador , he will be helping me to build up the Fedora LK Community as well 04:08:16 Hi udinnet 04:08:28 Great 04:08:34 Hi tuanta 04:08:38 sounds like a campus ambassador :) 04:08:38 Thanks 04:08:45 cool 04:08:47 its a pleasure 04:08:57 please fell free to give us your ideas udinnet in the meeting :) 04:09:06 Sure :) 04:09:13 +1 bckurera 04:09:45 we didnt have proper meetings last month 04:09:52 all are busy due to SFD 04:10:07 therefore shall we start the next topic then? 04:10:25 yes, alot of events like SFD and FUDCon overlapped 04:10:32 #topic FADs in APAC 04:10:51 this is very special to us 04:11:05 What is the current situation in APAC about FADs? 04:11:25 I saw about China FAD, but no update? 04:11:40 and Tuanta what about Hanoi FAD? 04:12:05 Yes, any updates here right now about China comm? 04:12:17 nobody from China 04:12:29 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_China_2011 04:12:42 Sorry, I'm a bit busy, so no more updates about Hanoi FAD right now 04:13:04 ok tuanta 04:13:11 I would be right back next week 04:13:26 LMartinez anything to note? 04:13:34 KageSenshi any update? 04:13:35 bckurera, What about a FAD in LK? 04:13:49 bckurera, none >.< 04:13:58 Nothing here, just doing Lugs and talking 04:13:59 udinnet we had one, so need to have another :) 04:14:05 Cool 04:14:07 oh .. theres 1 .. just grabbed my flight ticket to FUDCon Pune 04:14:18 LMartinez what about linuxcon.au? 04:14:26 * harish_ has parked and is now seated and can contribute 04:14:32 KageSenshi I saw the ticket update :) 04:14:34 will be arriving at mumbai on 3rd nov, 20:40 04:14:53 bckurera, i havent update that in ticket yet XD 04:15:07 LCA is abit of a sticky situation 04:15:10 I'll explain later 04:15:14 #info tuanta will be telling about hanoi FAD on next meeting 04:15:25 KageSenshi, i will be in KL next month for MozAsia 04:15:37 tuanta, cool 04:15:46 Ok, i will update about Hanoi FAD next week 04:15:49 wait, what date is that again .. 04:15:53 #info KageSenshi grabbed his flight ticket to FUDCon Pune and will be arriving at mumbai on 3rd nov, 20:40 04:15:58 Kage: hope to see you there 04:16:11 .fas harishpillay 04:16:14 harish: harishpillay 'Harish Pillay' 04:16:19 MozAsia any link? 04:16:37 harish welcome 04:16:38 Yes any link +1 bkurera 04:16:45 KageSenshi: about 18-19 of NOv 04:17:04 tuanta, ok :) 04:18:12 all: greetings. 04:18:28 * harish just caught up reading the log so far 04:18:30 Hi Harish 04:18:34 the dude who pushed moz-my is one of local foss dude .. seems like he got ahead of me in pushing stuff in .MY :P .. 04:18:35 hi harish 04:19:29 ok 04:19:33 btw, i will be in beijing for the FAD next Saturday. need to support the Ambassadors there. 04:19:47 great to hear that harish 04:19:56 i will be in fudcon pune as well. 04:19:57 update us 04:20:00 KageSenshi: i'm on my mobile then I will contact you later for KL meeting 04:20:06 #chair harish 04:20:06 Current chairs: KageSenshi LMartinez bckurera harish tuanta 04:20:14 tuanta, ok :) 04:20:23 #topic harish updates 04:20:36 apologies for missing the meetings the last few months, 04:20:40 go on harish 04:20:49 it is tough at noon on Saturday for me to get online. Today 04:21:00 we all missed those, this is the first meeting after 9th one 04:21:04 is slightly different as my sons are busy with games and so I am freed up. 04:21:09 tuanta, if you know more more fedorans coming to moz-my, do tell me .. probably i can organize a meetup or something after/before the event 04:21:34 KageSenshi feel like vising my :) 04:21:39 i will give an update on the community in APAC and Community Architecture in general in Beijing on Saturday. 04:21:47 vising/visiting 04:21:48 I am planning to do the same in Pune. 04:21:55 bckurera, do come :) 04:22:03 harish, cool 04:22:11 Cool 04:22:21 we have a group of developers in Bangalore I'd like to reach out to - as 04:22:30 part of the Gluster acquisition announced earlier this week. 04:22:43 harish think China FAD will lead us to FUDcon in China soon 04:23:12 yes, I'd like them to run a couple more FADs before bidding for a FUDcon in China. 04:23:14 all the best wishes to China from LK Community 04:23:16 That will be a great! 04:23:22 I hope KL FUDCon :) 04:23:29 harish please do use #info :) 04:23:48 great to see we have lot of bidders for the next as well 04:23:56 india, china, my 04:23:59 * LMartinez will be right back 04:24:01 +1 04:24:04 yes, that is good to see 04:24:12 +1 bckurera 04:24:23 eh .. the bid for next fudcon is still running? 04:24:26 next item is about lca 2012 in ballarat. 04:24:42 and i will hold that off for now pending other topics 04:24:52 eof 04:25:13 #action harish will give an update on the community in APAC and Community Architecture in general in Beijing on Saturday. 04:25:33 +1 04:25:34 great inputs harish 04:26:03 BTW will talk about lca2012 as soon LMartinez come back 04:26:09 ok 04:26:11 next topic then? 04:26:15 ok lets continue 04:26:25 +1 04:26:40 #topic Upcoming FADs 04:26:49 China FAD is on the way 04:26:58 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_China_2011 04:27:08 #topic FUDcon APAC 04:27:23 anything on FUDcon Pune to be discussed 04:27:33 I missed last meeting as well ;) 04:28:02 harish can you please educate us on getting ticket us the rest? 04:28:30 Good to have you back LMartinez 04:28:42 Who purchase tickets and so on? 04:28:54 +1 04:29:02 well, ideally i can help get the tickets. the 04:29:16 challenge is that some airlines will require the holder of the 04:29:26 credit card on which the ticket is bought to be present at the checkin. 04:29:37 this is not consistent and universal but does happen. 04:29:59 Yes at that point what is the solution? 04:30:01 so, while I am happy to buy it and let you travel, if possible, please get the ticket and file for the reimbursemtn 04:30:10 immediately so that I can get it done. 04:30:22 may be sometimes the ticket price is more than USD 500, then how it can be beared? 04:30:37 airasia no .. because they allow paying using bank transfer .. and i paid mine using that .. 04:30:55 KageSenshi, yes,not all airlines and not at all airports. 04:31:00 yep 04:31:09 let me cite you my recent experience 04:31:13 hello gbraad you there? 04:31:32 agree with harish +1 04:31:53 i was on my way from bangkok to ho chih min city and I left the credit card i bought the ticket on at home. the thai airways folks refused to let me board until the very end. 04:31:58 jetairways needs that and I face lot of trouble because of that last year 04:32:22 the amazing thing is the on that flight from singapore to bangkok, they never asked me for the credit card and i did not realize that i did not bring that card with me. 04:32:39 XD 04:32:40 so the inconsistency within one airline can multiply and get rather challenging. 04:33:28 :) 04:33:30 thanks, udinnet . [Back now :D] 04:33:30 and mind you that flight from bkk to sgn was a corporate travel thing and that did not help. 04:33:31 thanks for the sharing harish it is a pain and it exists 04:33:46 Welcome LMartinez 04:33:54 one solution is for the cash payment to be made 04:34:19 perhaps the person who is booking sends me a pdf of the prices he is seeing 04:34:36 and then I can send by paypal or western union the cash 04:34:49 so that they can buy it 04:35:03 It is a good method to follow harish 04:35:06 bckurera, what about local airlines? 04:35:11 and file a reimbursement if it is higher. 04:35:47 not specially Sri Lankan worry, the situation now I donno :) 04:36:33 ok thanks for advice harish 04:36:33 let's ensure that there are no unnecessary blockages in any travel we have to do as part of this group. i will help where I can. 04:36:55 same goes for visa applications as needed. 04:36:59 Thanks harish 04:37:02 I believe effective communication matters ;) 04:37:31 * KageSenshi nods 04:37:32 so what would be good to have is as follows: 04:37:42 a) get an estimated cost of the flight 04:37:49 b) get the cost of visa (if any) 04:38:01 send it into the trac as a request for funding 04:38:10 d) alert me that you need funds first. 04:38:26 e) with that I can extend the cash and take care of it 04:38:36 would that work? 04:39:12 seems pretty good 04:39:15 others? 04:39:26 Yeah. 04:39:33 ;) 04:40:30 the party has been started. So sorry, I have to leave. Will review the log later. Bye. 04:40:45 What about others? guys? 04:40:50 tuanta, have fun. 04:40:56 cya tuan 04:40:56 ok tuanta 04:41:00 see you 04:41:07 bye tuanta 04:41:18 ok then shall we move to the next topic? 04:41:23 time is running 04:41:27 yeah 04:41:33 #topic F16 planning 04:42:07 this is really important 04:42:19 We have to plan coz we have less than a month 04:42:25 i've gotten f16b on my systems for testing and is better than the alpha - atleast it seems to be more crisp in response. 04:42:43 still i didnt try F16b 04:42:50 Ok shall we organize small launch parties in our Universities? 04:42:58 I haven't had any problems with alpha or beta. All seems to be well. 04:42:59 bckurera? 04:43:02 harish, safe to preupgrade ? 04:43:07 that was the plan earlier udinnet 04:43:19 what about now? 04:43:23 you can organize in your uni no matter, ask for help when you need it 04:43:49 KageSenshi, not sure about that. did not try it. straight forward instal to disk. 04:43:56 KageSenshi, not sure about that. did not try it. straight forward install to disk. 04:44:01 ah ok 04:44:11 BTW I ll talk to you udinnet we need to have good plan this time, will plan and do 04:44:20 bckurera, Are you thinking about an event in National level? 04:44:33 then the guys can gather 04:44:44 udinnet nation level release party wont that effective 04:44:51 uni is better than that 04:44:55 yes i thought so 04:45:05 cool ;) 04:45:12 we can have a FAD in national level 04:45:31 We'll for sure bckurera 04:45:44 So whats up guys ? 04:45:54 what are your plans? 04:46:30 so if you all guys need help please file tickets 04:46:51 i will be making media, btw. F16 live DVDs 64-bit only. Can the wiki be updated with requests for media? 04:46:51 BTW harish, aks filed a ticket to get goods to SFD in Nepal 04:47:17 bckurera, ok. have not checked. 04:47:32 but no action was taken so we missed the nepal sfd thing 04:47:45 in one hand he made it quickly 04:48:06 As i can remember only 10 days left for the event when he make the request 04:48:21 In usch situation what can we follow? 04:48:29 usch/such 04:48:29 get him to plan now for f16. 04:48:51 and if possible see if there are opportunities to expand it into a FAD in Nepal. 04:49:01 +1 04:49:21 can FAm spend with no FAmSCo approval and reimburse later? 04:49:36 i don't think so. 04:49:44 yup that was the plan, use SFD to promote FAD in Nepal 04:50:07 smallish stuff I think it is ok. was it like less than US$200 or something like that. 04:50:20 ok then we need to make the request early dont wait till the last minute :) 04:50:39 great to have harish today with us 04:50:48 we are getting to know many things ;) 04:50:50 my pleasure. 04:51:08 ok then start planning for F16 anf if any help please forward to FAmSCo 04:51:16 dont wait till the last second 04:51:23 next topic>> 04:51:35 Can I just bring up LCA quickly here 04:51:56 They've cancelled the open day 04:52:08 go ahead 04:52:14 so attaching a FAD to it wouldn't be the best option 04:52:31 because it is harder to justify the spending 04:52:39 of travel ect. 04:52:59 understood LMartinez 04:53:20 LMartinez can you guys organize a FAD and then promote it in LCA ? 04:53:31 +1 04:53:32 so we can get a good publicity for the event? 04:53:38 I think it worth 04:53:46 That said I'll be attending, im not sure about kaio 04:53:54 Good idea, bckurera 04:53:54 * harish i've got some updates for lca as well. 04:54:04 go ahead, harish 04:54:08 hello guys 04:54:10 harish please go ahead :) 04:54:13 hello harish! 04:54:14 #topic LCA 04:54:15 LMartinez, ok 04:54:17 aolsystems welcome 04:54:21 we missed you :) 04:54:29 thanks! :) 04:54:30 #info Open Day is cancelled 04:54:32 red hat ANZ is keen to do more at the LCA next year and 04:54:33 hehehee 04:54:34 chair aolsystems 04:54:38 i miss you all! 04:54:47 i am trying to see how and what else we can do 04:54:49 ANZ? 04:54:49 hi alosystems.. 04:54:51 ;) 04:54:59 both from a fedora and jboss perspective 04:55:01 austrailia and new zealand 04:55:07 I'm within 100ks of it harish, so email me with info 04:55:08 yes 04:55:09 we just finish the event of sfd last sept. here in manila 04:55:15 #chair aolsystems 04:55:15 Current chairs: KageSenshi LMartinez aolsystems bckurera harish tuanta 04:55:15 udinnet: hello! 04:55:27 bckurera: :) 04:55:39 .fas aolsystems 04:55:40 harish: aolsystems 'Arnold Laurinaria' 04:55:42 sorry for being late in the meeting 04:55:51 zodbot: yes! 04:55:56 aolsystems please add your #info 04:55:58 Harish, would there be anyone in perticular to talk to regarding FAD funding, which we could attach a Red Hat Jboss event to? 04:55:59 im here right now in the office 04:56:21 LMartinez, certainly doable. 04:56:28 let me take this separately. 04:56:42 So harish what is our plan? 04:56:50 i have rh anz marketing folks as well as consulting wanting to do stuff 04:57:07 having a FAD in au in 2012 or wait till next LCA 2013? 04:57:13 and so I have reached out to the organizers of lca and got a reply from Josh Stewart about what possibilities exist. 04:57:27 pastebin? 04:57:32 great work harish 04:58:11 i will need to engage with him (from lca) and rh anz folks and CommArch and APAC Fedora Ambassadors to figure out something 04:58:22 f 04:58:27 sorry 04:58:28 if it an FAD plus a JUDcon-lite then so be it. 04:58:52 #info aolsystems > we just finish the event of sfd last sept. here in manila 04:59:07 LMartinez, patebin what please? 04:59:10 ok harish, please keep me in the loop. 04:59:15 Nevermind 04:59:20 nice to hear about JUDcon-lite 04:59:37 harish please do update us as soon the wiki page is created 04:59:45 sounds interesting 04:59:54 yes true 04:59:58 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2012 04:59:59 could someone else create the wiki for lca and send me the link. 05:00:02 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2012 05:00:04 great. 05:00:08 :) 05:00:23 keep us updated guys 05:00:25 Alright, I have to go. I'll read through the logs 05:00:28 Thanks all. 05:00:49 #info http://www.bluepoint.com.ph/ we have already uploaded the event the we organize on Linux day together with magie,engles,heherson. 05:00:51 that's it for lca from me for now. 05:00:51 by LMartinez 05:00:52 ok then we are at the end 05:01:03 bye LMartinez 05:01:21 anything to add aolsystems 05:01:52 #topic Open Floor 05:02:00 any ideas folks 05:02:24 http://linuxday.org/teams/2011/PH/BluepointLinuxUsersElite/ 05:02:38 #link http://linuxday.org/teams/2011/PH/BluepointLinuxUsersElite/ 05:02:51 we want to organize a launching of fedora 16 this nov. 05:02:57 with the group here in Manila 05:03:03 #action Plan for F16 release parties and request help if needed 05:03:23 any help you need aolsystems? 05:03:29 media and so on? 05:03:35 #need fedora shirt and fedora cd's and fedora tarpaulins for the event 05:03:56 tarpaulins? 05:04:11 file a ticket aolsystems and update the media request wiki 05:04:15 ok 05:04:37 for the new fedora 16 launching we may just make the tarpaulins here 05:05:12 what do you mean by tarpaulins? 05:05:29 we have already given all our cd's on the sfd and linuxday event this aug. and sept. so we may be needing addtional for theis new event that we would like to organize 05:05:29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarpaulin ??? 05:05:51 i think azneita has already had a proposed plan 05:06:00 aolsystems please wait till F16 media are available 05:06:02 that's what I know a tarpaulin is, but for a fedora one? 05:06:12 :D 05:06:20 i mean tarp design for fedora 16 05:06:23 i m confused as well harish ;) 05:06:34 neckstrap? 05:06:40 :) 05:07:49 So bckurera, What about the medias for our Launch parties? 05:07:52 ok then anything to be discussed 1 hour has passed 05:08:05 Can we have some? 05:08:09 yup not yet figured out 05:08:20 depending on the plan will get or produce 05:08:35 we are coordinating with some tv stations here to be with our plan launching 05:08:39 ok We'll discuss it by phone ;) 05:08:52 that is easy udinnet 05:08:59 +1 05:09:08 good idea aolsystems 05:09:37 ") 05:09:44 #info aolsystems and FAms in Manila are coordinating with some tv stations here to be with our plan launching 05:10:17 anything left? 05:10:22 harish? 05:10:28 nothing from me. 05:10:36 I'm empty too 05:10:47 Next saturday Dramsy will have the biweekly APAC 05:10:58 please vote the F17 name 05:11:04 and plan your f16 parties 05:11:10 i hope dramsey will be present netx meeting 05:11:12 good. i will be in beijing for the fad so we can do a live chat. 05:11:25 yup we missed him today 05:11:29 +1 05:11:32 it is interesting 05:11:49 China FAD on 15th Oct 2011 am i right Harish? 05:11:57 yes, indeed 05:12:09 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_China_2011 05:12:17 ok then wish them all the best and shall we conclude the meeting 05:12:25 go ahead. 05:12:29 it's lunch time here. 05:12:30 +1 05:12:37 the meeting is really worth thanks for being here 05:12:49 specially harish, thanks for info you provided 05:12:54 keep up the good work, guys! 05:13:03 others thanks for the participation 05:13:10 welcome 05:13:11 we will just make the ticket request once we finish with the plan and proposed fedor party with our group in Bluepoint 05:13:11 count down starts :) 05:13:17 thanks 05:13:20 3 05:13:22 2 05:13:23 1 05:13:25 .05 05:13:31 thanks for all :) 05:13:36 #endmeeting