05:03:56 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
05:03:56 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 22 05:03:56 2011 UTC.  The chair is tagoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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05:04:00 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:04:08 <tagoh> #topic agenda and roll call
05:04:18 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2011-09-22
05:04:47 <dueno> hi
05:04:49 <tagoh> Hi guys, time for i18n meeting
05:04:53 <tagoh> who else here?
05:05:36 <anish_> hi
05:05:37 <epico_laptop> hi
05:05:48 <jni> hi
05:08:18 <tagoh> okay, let's get started.
05:08:22 <tagoh> #topic F16
05:09:50 <tagoh> as you may know we are hosting another fedora test day, for ibus new feature. please join #fedora-test-day and run https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-09-22_I18n_Desktop to experience it.
05:10:50 <tagoh> this would be a good opportunity to catch up any issues prior to GA.
05:11:12 <tagoh> please try it as far as possible if you have a time.
05:12:25 <tagoh> any concerns or topics for f16 so far?
05:13:42 <epico_laptop> which component should I report if some rpms is missed from DVD image?
05:14:28 <tagoh> we have too many bugs in rawhide. that may still persist in f16 as well. so that would be great if you can work out to fix them. and hopefully fixes will be available in 0-day errata.
05:15:00 <tagoh> epico_laptop: missed what?
05:15:11 <epico_laptop> cjkuni-uming-fonts and cjkuni-ukai-fonts.
05:15:29 <epico_laptop> to anaconda?
05:15:44 <tagoh> is it Live?
05:15:53 <epico_laptop> not Fedora DVD beta rc1
05:16:01 <epico_laptop> s/not/not, /
05:16:44 <fenrus02> is there a bugid associated with that problem?  has it been flagged as a blocker?
05:16:46 <tagoh> well, depends. if anaconda just doesn't use cjkuni fonts at all, yes, it should goes into anaconda. otherwise comps maybe.
05:17:21 <epico_laptop> ok. I see.
05:17:50 <epico_laptop> . bug 734301
05:17:52 <zodbot> epico_laptop: Bug 734301 zh_TW] zh_TW does not install the fonts listed on fonts list - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734301
05:18:07 <epico_laptop> no flags.
05:18:26 <tagoh> so what fonts currently used for Chinese?
05:18:45 <epico_laptop> wqy-zenhei-fonts for SC, cjkuni-uming-fonts for TC.
05:18:55 <epico_laptop> also cjkuni-ukai-fonts for TC.
05:19:33 <tagoh> but not in DVD iso??
05:19:37 <epico_laptop> yes.
05:19:41 <epico_laptop> not in DVD
05:20:24 <fenrus02> you may want to mark that it Blocks: 	F16Beta
05:20:56 <tagoh> confused a bit. are you saying it's installed through the network then?
05:21:42 <epico_laptop> as default installation is not using network. So no fonts for zh_TW.
05:21:52 <epico_laptop> wqy-zenhei-fonts for zh_CN, cjkuni-uming-fonts for zh_TW.
05:22:32 <epico_laptop> fenrus02: thanks.
05:22:52 <tagoh> hmm, okay. let me try later anyway.
05:23:17 * epico_laptop will open bug for comps.
05:24:06 <tagoh> good to check comps if it has "default" or "mandatory"
05:25:00 <epico_laptop> <packagereq type="default">cjkuni-ukai-fonts</packagereq>
05:25:11 <tagoh> epico_laptop: btw which media did you try?
05:25:57 <epico_laptop> http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16-Beta.RC1/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-16-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
05:26:36 <tagoh> thanks
05:27:26 <tagoh> okay, anything else?
05:30:31 <pravin_s> hi
05:30:42 <pravin_s> tagoh: release lohit fonts under OFL yesterday :)
05:31:10 <tagoh> please concentrate to fix bugs as much as possible to make f16 better. as I pointed out the above, we have a lot of bugs. would be nice to see fixes anyway.
05:31:13 <pravin_s> also resolved some liberation bugs
05:31:35 <pravin_s> tagoh: yes sure, liberation has most of the hinting related bugs open
05:31:36 <tagoh> pravin_s: yep, saw the announcement. thanks for improving them!
05:31:49 <pravin_s> need to see it once more deep for hinting
05:32:19 <tagoh> guess we will see that in updates?
05:32:26 <pravin_s> yes
05:32:31 <tagoh> cool
05:33:03 <tagoh> okay, better move on
05:33:12 <tagoh> #topic Input Methods
05:33:24 <tagoh> any updates to share?
05:34:08 <anish_> i have build ibus-indic table
05:34:12 <anish_> for bugs
05:34:18 <tagoh> cool
05:34:30 <paragan> Caribou is updated to 0.3.92. Hope this release will not be a buggy like previous one.
05:34:41 <anish_> bug #683826 and #683743
05:34:48 <tagoh> aha
05:34:48 <pravin_s> thanks anish_ for it
05:35:06 <anish_> pravin_s, thanks
05:36:15 <dueno> ibus-m17n with correct Indic IME symbols has been pushed to testing
05:36:56 <tagoh> cool
05:38:27 <pravin_s> dueno: great
05:38:51 <tagoh> did we get any conclusion on the symbol issues for ibus-indic-table and ibus-chewing btw?
05:41:32 <tagoh> nope?
05:41:55 <tagoh> .bug 727019
05:41:58 <zodbot> tagoh: Bug 727019 ibus compose file needs a symbol tag for gnome-shell - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727019
05:42:08 <tagoh> .bug 727018
05:42:10 <zodbot> tagoh: Bug 727018 ibus compose file needs a symbol tag for gnome-shell - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727018
05:43:23 <pravin_s> tagoh: yes, we will do that change
05:43:57 <pravin_s> tagoh: by next week will complete it
05:44:05 <tagoh> okay. please update bz if have any question or need further discussion.
05:44:14 <tagoh> pravin_s: okay. thanks
05:44:47 <tagoh> anything else for IM?
05:46:33 <alam> tagoh: have a question regarding xkeyboard and ibus
05:46:43 <tagoh> sure
05:47:23 <alam> if a keyboard map added from xkeyboard it appears in ibus pref, but should it appear in systemsetting->Region and Language- > Layouts?
05:47:39 <alam> or visa-versa
05:48:47 <tagoh> I suppose gnome has separate config for the keyboard layout. and IIRC ibus is pulling from X display so far. that's why it appears in ibus-setup but not in gnomecc.
05:48:59 <alam> ok
05:49:38 <alam> thanks
05:49:42 <tagoh> np
05:50:07 <tagoh> okay, let's move on
05:50:18 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:50:43 <tagoh> any updates or news on fonts and rendering?
05:51:26 <pravin_s> will build lohit next week with OFL in fedora
05:51:30 <pravin_s> that is from me
05:51:36 <tagoh> okay, thanks
05:52:59 <tagoh> anything else?
05:53:36 <tagoh> or anything we are missing in the agenda?
05:54:50 <tagoh> if nope, let's close the meeting shortly
05:56:51 <tagoh> okay, thanks everyone for the meeting. looking forward to see you all at the fedora test day for ibus features :)
05:57:02 <tagoh> #endmeeting