13:22:26 <igorps> #startmeeting famsco
13:22:26 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Sep 10 13:22:26 2011 UTC.  The chair is igorps. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:22:41 <igorps> #chair gbraad kaio yn1v
13:22:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: gbraad igorps kaio yn1v
13:22:56 <kaio> .fas kaio
13:23:00 <zodbot> kaio: kaio 'Caius Chance (かいお)' <me@kaio.net>
13:23:07 <igorps> .fas igorps
13:23:07 <zodbot> igorps: igor 'Igor Pires Soares' <igor@projetofedora.org>
13:23:17 <gbraad> .fas gbraad
13:23:18 <zodbot> gbraad: gbraad 'Gerard Braad (吉拉德)' <fedora@gbraad.nl>
13:23:47 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
13:23:48 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <neville@taygon.com>
13:23:57 <igorps> Here is our agenda:
13:24:06 <igorps> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda
13:24:44 <igorps> gbraad, any news about the Chinese domain?
13:24:52 <gbraad> no
13:25:27 <igorps> we need to ping infra and the board about that
13:25:47 <gbraad> kaio? did you find the old ticket?
13:26:11 <kaio> no
13:26:53 * kaio reckon ping has to be in daily/bi-daily basis to boost the progress
13:27:22 <igorps> Maybe you guys should file it again
13:27:24 <kaio> I remembered the conversation was only done in mailing list
13:28:10 <kaio> and context was sort of dead a few times and be forgotten
13:28:10 <igorps> So opening a new ticket won't hurt
13:28:35 <kaio> igorps♆ at famsco trac?
13:28:39 <kaio> or anywhere else?
13:28:42 <kaio> infra trac?
13:29:04 <gbraad> infra
13:29:13 <gbraad> trying to locate the ticket now
13:29:55 <igorps> yep, famsco can't handle this, we need help from the infra guys
13:30:50 <gbraad> igorps: the idea I have is still to involve famsco in the process
13:31:26 <kaio> no ticket found
13:31:29 <igorps> gbraad, for sure we can help, but we are not able to do it all
13:31:36 <kaio> create one then
13:31:51 <igorps> kaio: +1
13:32:13 <gbraad> igorps: involve as part of the process itself in general
13:33:10 <igorps> when creating the ticket please mention that this was already discussed by famsco
13:34:19 <igorps> any action points?
13:34:21 <kaio> search my mailbox and got many record about that
13:34:33 <gbraad> I do the same
13:34:36 <kaio> but not easy to merge that into a desc
13:34:40 <kaio> of the new ticket
13:34:51 <gbraad> https://fedorahosted.org/board/ticket/75
13:35:05 <kaio> gbraad♆ thx
13:35:29 <gbraad> not allowed to see it anymore
13:35:33 <igorps> can't see it :)
13:35:34 <gbraad> I have mentioned this before...
13:35:45 <kaio> board readable only?
13:35:52 <kaio> oh..
13:36:40 <igorps> I suggest to create a new ticket and add a link to the old one
13:36:44 <gbraad> the last record I have is: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2010-September/009198.html
13:36:47 <gbraad> http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/
13:37:02 <gbraad> kaio, can you create a new ticket?
13:37:07 <kaio> where
13:37:25 <kaio> board?
13:37:29 <gbraad> yes
13:37:38 * kaio does now
13:38:35 <igorps> #topic Chinese subdomain
13:38:55 <igorps> #action kaio will file a new ticket on board track
13:39:22 <yn1v> Probably will be good idea to leave a copy of the link for the new ticket on the agenda ... or some where else that is of easy access
13:39:25 <gbraad> kaio, would be good to specify to have this approved before the OSW FAD we have.
13:39:47 <yn1v> yes, dead lines boost progress
13:40:52 <igorps> can we move to the next topic?
13:42:23 <gbraad> ok
13:42:33 <kaio> #link https://fedorahosted.org/board/ticket/113
13:42:44 <igorps> Thanks, kaio
13:42:47 <kaio> np
13:43:32 <igorps> #topic New mentor for LATAM
13:44:05 <igorps> This was something we were discussing last meeting before my connection drops
13:44:40 <igorps> from the logs I saw that yn1v suggested one more name
13:44:56 <yn1v> no
13:45:16 <igorps> yn1v, haven't you consider Matias?
13:46:00 <yn1v> I don't remember proposing anyone else.  Which Matias ?
13:46:01 <igorps> Luiz Bazan from Panama is also willing to become a mentor
13:46:24 <gbraad> we have discussed one option, but did not vote due to dropped connection
13:47:47 * igorps searches for the log
13:49:51 <yn1v> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-03/fedora-meeting.2011-09-03-13.13.log.html
13:50:34 <igorps> sorry, that was Manuel
13:51:09 <igorps> not Matias
13:51:55 <igorps> yn1v, I'm not sure what your point was since my connection dropped
13:52:02 <yn1v> Manuel was the ambassador that created the situation
13:52:33 <igorps> Thanks, for clarifying it
13:53:18 <igorps> so let's consider Nushio and Luis
13:53:22 <yn1v> I went to fama trac to see Manuel status as ambassador... it is an open ticket pending of approval, since it was set back to mentoring
13:54:20 <igorps> yn1v, do you think that Nushio could help on this and further cases as a mentor?
13:54:40 <yn1v> I am very found of Nushio, he is great.
13:54:57 <igorps> I think that this would be helpful considering the position for Mexico
13:55:33 <igorps> I'll give a +1 for him, considering this whole context
13:55:48 <yn1v> But regarding the mentoring process, the idea is: do we need more people? Do we have request that have been not followed ?
13:56:49 <igorps> IMHO the issue here is less about the numbers and more about the quality of the mentoring we can provide
13:57:38 <gbraad> igorps: +1
13:58:10 <igorps> considering all the regional and cultural aspects and the population of the country
13:58:45 <yn1v> well, that of the cultural aspects may be worth.
13:58:48 <yn1v> +1
13:59:06 <igorps> gbraad, kaio ?
13:59:20 <kaio> +1
13:59:38 <gbraad> i already gave the +1
13:59:47 <gbraad> I knew the context if igorps's statement
13:59:59 <kaio> as long as this wont impact the current status
14:00:14 <igorps> #agreed Nushio approved as a new mentor for LATAM
14:00:17 <kaio> trust you guys
14:01:04 <igorps> I just would like to state that Luis will make a good mentor in the near future
14:01:19 <igorps> well, moving on
14:01:26 <yn1v> Yes, he has shown a lot of energy
14:02:12 <igorps> yn1v, any updates from your topics?
14:03:13 <yn1v> I spend about two hours looking the data from survey, trying to find something interesting making crossing of variable and found nothing worth of publishing
14:04:40 <yn1v> I don't have any other topic
14:05:13 <igorps> yn1v, let's not forget about these results
14:05:29 <igorps> I think they will be really important on next elections
14:05:55 <igorps> now to the tickets
14:06:09 <igorps> #topic Tickets
14:06:55 <igorps> we have a couple tickets from cwickert that need some attention
14:07:08 <igorps> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/212
14:07:17 <igorps> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/213
14:09:34 <igorps> I'm not sure about the amount for 213
14:09:50 <igorps> 212 is pretty clear to me
14:10:33 <gbraad> #213 is topic also suitable to China
14:12:14 <igorps> About 212 I just would like to know if we have enough money for everything
14:12:51 <igorps> and Joerg will probably be the one to make the transfer
14:14:14 <yn1v> #212 is a long ticket. I think that most of that has been approved separately and what is left to do is take action. jsimon is closest... probably we should ask him to try to reimburse and close it
14:14:36 <igorps> yn1v, +1
14:14:37 <gbraad> yn1v: +1
14:15:01 <igorps> I will add a comment there and add liknus and harish on cc
14:15:19 <yn1v> Not sure what action do we need to take on #213? Blessing ??
14:15:56 <gbraad> yn1v: is a discussion topic
14:16:16 <igorps> #Ticket 212 approved. igorps will update the ticket and add appropriated CCs
14:16:48 <igorps> about t-shirts we also have:
14:16:53 <igorps> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/206
14:16:54 <yn1v> I like the general idea. I see some blockers, like moving money from Africa.
14:18:12 <igorps> need to check if paypal is an option
14:18:50 <igorps> yn1v, could you add a comment in order to check the appropriated conditions?
14:19:06 <yn1v> Okey !
14:19:18 <igorps> yn1v, thanks!
14:19:18 <yn1v> move to #206
14:20:16 <igorps> Well, nothing much to add to that one
14:20:55 <igorps> only that the deadline was last week
14:21:03 <igorps> and we need to take a decision
14:22:00 <gbraad> no problem here. but what about the deadline?
14:22:43 <igorps> we still have time, if we get the money transferred by next week
14:23:19 <igorps> Is this ok to everyone?
14:23:22 <gbraad> decision?
14:24:26 <yn1v> I can make the transfer... the only thing is that we have to make a small compensation for some taxes.
14:25:01 <igorps> yn1v, from what I remember it is about 7,5%
14:25:50 <igorps> yn1v, I will coordinate this with leandro and send you an email
14:26:50 <yn1v> It seems that we are making bigger subsidy on polos for brazil, but I am okey it.
14:27:07 <yn1v> kaio? gbraad?
14:27:35 <igorps> yn1v, this is also for the F16 timeframe
14:27:52 <gbraad> ok for me
14:27:55 <yn1v> all the better :)
14:28:42 <igorps> #action Ticket 206 approved. igorps will coordinate with leandro and yn1v.
14:28:59 <yn1v> who's leandro?
14:29:36 <igorps> yn1v, the local ambassador who filed the ticket, being the swag wrangler
14:29:39 <gbraad> > lcavalcanti.almeida ?
14:29:51 <igorps> exactly
14:30:07 <yn1v> thanks
14:30:34 <igorps> anything else, guys?
14:30:56 <yn1v> sometimes in my head names and nicks falls apart :/
14:31:01 <gbraad> no tickets from APAC to my knowledge
14:31:11 <igorps> yn1v, np :)
14:31:34 <gbraad> yn1v: you are merely human... more than understandable ;-)
14:31:47 <igorps> Thanks for today's meeting, folks!
14:32:20 <igorps> I will send the meeting minutes to the ml later today
14:32:29 <igorps> #endmeeting