04:00:46 #startmeeting 04:00:46 Meeting started Sat Aug 27 04:00:46 2011 UTC. The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:00:46 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:01:14 #meetingname APAC FAD/FUDcon special meeting 04:01:14 The meeting name has been set to 'apac_fad/fudcon_special_meeting' 04:01:28 #chair dramsey tuanta 04:01:28 Current chairs: bckurera dramsey tuanta 04:01:44 .fas asmartgoat 04:01:45 LMartinez: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' 04:01:55 .fas bckurera 04:01:55 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 04:01:55 .fas dramsey 04:01:55 .fas Aks 04:01:59 .fasinfo 04:02:03 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:02:07 aks: vivekl 'Vivek Lakshmanan' - uniquejainakshay 'Akshay A Jain' - jakshay 'Akshay Jain' - fuel 'Makarand Prashant Panchakshari' - dl9sj3559 'Anil Sharma' - hiransr 'Hiran Sampath Rajapaksha' - xhaksx 'Juan Eduardo Barba Olivet' - suneetaks 'Suneet (3 more messages) 04:02:08 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-08-27#Agenda 04:02:11 Kalpurush: (fasinfo ) -- Return information on a Fedora Account System username. 04:02:15 thanks dramsey 04:02:38 .fas kalpurush 04:02:38 Kalpurush: kalpurush 'Moniruzzaman Monir' 04:03:02 Woah, aks isn't going to play well with zodbot. Maybe it'll accept your real name, I'll find out later. 04:03:10 :P 04:03:22 hi then lets start 04:03:33 ok, lets start 04:03:39 first I like to know what are the countries here 04:03:48 can you please indicate your country 04:04:00 so that we have a nice understanding 04:04:06 Australia 04:04:06 bckurera - Sri Lanka 04:04:08 aks: hi, I'm from Nepal 04:04:09 * Kalpurush from Bangladesh 04:04:10 My name is David, from Tokyo, Japan and I use Fedora 15 from a DVD. 04:04:16 * tuanta_ Vietnam 04:04:31 .fas tuanta 04:04:32 tuanta_: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:04:42 great 04:04:44 then 04:04:52 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:05:08 Changing computer :) 04:05:11 anyone got any news? 04:05:16 .fas FranciscoD 04:05:16 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 04:05:29 FranciscoD - India 04:05:46 oh, news? I don't think anything other than the FUDCon 04:05:54 seems no 04:05:57 ok then 04:06:05 I read about a session Shakti had taken I think 04:06:13 but that was also on the Ambassadors list 04:06:23 #topic News from APAC 04:06:51 In this topic we discuss about news from APAC, news about events may be any other 04:07:07 I'll start with LCA, because I need to leave soon 04:07:14 Is that ok? 04:07:18 ok great 04:07:39 Does anyone have interest in attending LCA? 04:07:55 #link http://linux.conf.au/ 04:08:15 I am but not possible due to high airfare and charges :) 04:08:16 #undo 04:08:16 Removing item from minutes: 04:08:57 Unfortunantly the Open Day has been cancelled for various reasons 04:09:32 so I do not believe funding will be a possiblity, because Fedora won't get much out of it. 04:09:56 yup sure 04:10:12 Although I will have Live CD's and other media to people who ask, I'll get myself a shirt. 04:10:46 you need any media, swags 04:11:05 possibly 04:11:15 There is an opertunity for a tutorial session 04:11:34 please do forward your request if there is any 04:11:44 LMartinez, may be make a #info, #idea or #action and inquire with azneita as well as kaio, I remember the LCA FAD was quite successful. 04:11:58 thats a good idea 04:12:15 #Idea hold an post-LCA FAD 04:12:18 further can you please give use the wiki address 04:12:29 +1 LMartinez 04:12:32 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2012 04:12:36 +1 LMartinez 04:12:42 I remember last time there was a FAD with LCA 04:12:44 I haven't touched that page in a while 04:12:52 It was during the time we had the possiblity of an openday 04:13:28 The general plan will probably a FAD 04:13:34 FAD in FrOScon reported by Christoph is nice too 04:13:34 ok you mean this time as there is no openday FAD is not possible? 04:13:48 tuanta read it today 04:13:58 dramsey what you think, LCA FAD? 04:14:01 The openday allows us to show fedora to everyone, the FAD is more closed of 04:14:04 off* 04:14:24 but since they are not going to be doing an openday, a fad seems less probable and feasable. 04:14:55 understood LMartinez 04:15:36 +1 bckurera. 04:16:04 But if we were to do a FAD, one in a library would be successful 04:16:06 LCA FAD will be a great. I see great karma there. 04:16:15 +1 04:16:47 ok great 04:16:58 +1 LMartinez, we should make ti happen 04:17:00 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2012 04:17:00 s/ti/it 04:17:04 yeah 04:17:14 +1 LMartinez 04:17:33 I'm thinking of putting forward a proposal for an australian fudcon for late next year 04:17:36 LMartinez : can you find the feasibility of hosting a FAD then? 04:17:56 LMartinez : good idea 04:17:59 I don't see a large attendance of more than 3 at a FAD in ballarat 04:18:08 +1 LMartinez, we will surely support you 04:18:50 thanks 04:19:15 LMartinez : finish news? 04:19:29 bckurera: Also we are planning for SFD in Nepal 04:19:51 yup please go aks 04:20:05 I'm all done, the floor is yours aks 04:20:27 bckurera: this year we have a plan to celebrate SFD in 4+ towns in Nepal (earlier we were doing a single central event) 04:20:28 #info aks planning for SFD in Nepal 04:21:09 bckurera: we have local teams, and FOSS Nepal would be coordinating all the efforts (I'm also an exec member of the community) 04:21:26 greetings all Fedora APAC 04:21:35 great, aks you need any media swags 04:21:36 Hi, harish 04:21:37 hi harish. 04:21:38 finally managed to get my saturday time back 04:21:41 hi harish great to see 04:21:50 Hi Harish. 04:21:51 bckurera: yes, possibly if we can get some 04:22:01 (it is presidential elections day here in singapore and i'm therefore home) 04:22:18 dramsey, bckurera LMartinez Kalpurush hi! 04:22:42 bckurera: also I'm planning for some talk/session on Fedora at 2 of the SFD venues 04:22:48 so where are we on the agenda? 04:23:38 hello mether 04:23:51 ok any other news? 04:23:52 mether: hello 04:24:09 can I speak now? 04:24:10 I got some updates from Philippines 04:24:21 they are celebrating Linux 20 years events 04:24:27 harish please do 04:24:31 ok 04:24:34 some updates 04:24:47 #info Philippines FAms at the Linux 20 events 04:25:08 a) I am supporting FAD KL, FAD Beijing over the next two months 04:25:14 b) I will be attending FUDcon Pune 04:25:39 hi Harish 04:25:55 c) I am working the with SFD in Singapore team as well with a Fedora DVD distibution and a talk about community. 04:26:41 any other news? 04:26:50 i'd like to know how many of you from outside India will be attending FUDcon Pune? 04:27:05 eof from me. 04:27:13 bckurera will be there 04:27:38 .fas harish 04:27:38 harish: charish '' - harishsk 'Harish Kumar S.K' - harishpillay 'Harish Pillay' 04:27:51 .fas harishpillay 04:27:51 harish: harishpillay 'Harish Pillay' 04:27:51 #info harish supporting FAD KL, FAD Beijing over the next two months 04:28:08 #info harish is working the with SFD in Singapore team as well with a Fedora DVD distibution and a talk about community. 04:28:20 #chair harish 04:28:20 Current chairs: bckurera dramsey harish tuanta 04:28:28 I am getting visa to attend Milan 04:28:37 tuanta +1 04:28:38 that community talk is going to be the same in FAD KL as well. Have not figure out for BJ yet. 04:28:45 share the experience with us please 04:29:10 sure, bckurera 04:29:27 can we move to the next topic then? 04:29:35 the agenda says FAD in Hanoi is Sep 17th. That's not quite right, tuanta? 04:29:39 Somebody put me on chair :( 04:29:46 it's so crazy that traveling to Milan is cheaper than to Pune (from here) 04:29:52 ohh sorry 04:29:53 #chair Kalpurush 04:29:53 Current chairs: Kalpurush bckurera dramsey harish tuanta 04:29:56 I will need to change the date 04:30:15 tuanta, i'd like to support you as welll in Hanoi 04:30:21 Sept 17th is SFD; 04:30:28 #chair aks FranciscoD 04:30:28 Current chairs: FranciscoD Kalpurush aks bckurera dramsey harish tuanta 04:30:35 I am planning to make a FAD after several weeks 04:30:41 bckurera: thanks 04:30:47 #chair mether 04:30:47 Current chairs: FranciscoD Kalpurush aks bckurera dramsey harish mether tuanta 04:30:49 tuanta, FAD Beijing is Oct 15 04:31:00 but now, I will plan it after I am back from Milan 04:31:04 so you'd have to plan it around that. 04:31:10 tuanta, ok 04:31:18 great idea,harish 04:31:21 mether, when is FUDcon Pune? 04:31:28 #chair LMartinez 04:31:28 Current chairs: FranciscoD Kalpurush LMartinez aks bckurera dramsey harish mether tuanta 04:31:35 #idea Plan FAD Hanoi around Oct 15th 04:31:41 november 4,5 6 04:31:53 i'd like to time it with some Red Hat event there - not that I know what is being planned currently. 04:32:26 #link http://www.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/FUDCon:India_2011 04:33:48 ok then next topic? 04:34:05 #topic upcoming FADs 04:34:21 #topic FAD in Philippines 04:34:38 I think we miss FAms from Philippines today 04:34:57 #topic FAD in Kuala Lumpur 04:35:07 KageSenshi ? 04:35:20 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:KualaLumpur_2011 04:35:21 \ 04:35:23 \o 04:35:30 * FranciscoD_ jumps in from his newly setup f16 alpha vm :D 04:35:38 #chair KageSenshi 04:35:38 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush LMartinez aks bckurera dramsey harish mether tuanta 04:35:43 Alright, I have to go now. Bye 04:35:46 .fas izhar 04:35:46 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 04:35:54 Thank you, LMartinez 04:35:59 LMartinez: bye, thanks 04:36:03 thanks for being LMartinz 04:36:17 thanks for coming asmartgoat :) 04:36:19 #link http://fedora.foss.org.my/events/fadkl092011/ 04:36:28 KageSenshi please do continue 04:36:33 we got 6 submitted sessions 04:36:39 and .. wait checking number of registrant 04:36:59 +1 KageSenshi 04:37:05 +1 04:37:25 and 39 registrants :D 04:37:31 KageSenshi: great 04:37:38 * harish i've to step away in about 10-15 minutes to go vote. 04:37:41 event coming pretty soon, 2 weeks more 04:37:47 +1 KageSenshi 04:38:20 can we move? 04:38:20 thats it i guess to report :) 04:38:25 yep next 04:38:40 #topic FAD in Hanoi 04:39:01 my turn! 04:39:02 anyone from China 04:39:13 there is no idea up to SFD Hanoi 2011 04:39:15 please do tuanta 04:39:33 sorry not China, Vietnam 04:39:35 I will plan it around 15th Oct, after I am back from Milan 04:39:49 :) 04:40:17 +1 Tuan - tuana 04:40:26 s/tuana/taunta 04:40:41 I am in the most active FOSS group in Vietnam now 04:40:59 great work tuanta wish you all the best 04:41:02 everything could be truth 04:41:02 +1 Fantastic to hear, Tuan - tuanta 04:41:24 tuanta, +1 04:41:40 +1 tuanta 04:41:48 +1 tuanta 04:41:58 next topic 40 mins gone :) 04:42:07 I will have update on Hanoi FAD as soon as I have more plan 04:42:12 next, please 04:42:28 #topic FAD in China 04:42:31 any updates 04:42:44 no Chinese here today? 04:42:51 i guess so 04:42:55 only update to FAD China is that I am planning on attending. 04:42:56 so, there is no update, I think 04:43:06 #topic 2011 - India, Pune 04:43:10 you, harish? 04:43:15 yes 04:43:18 good luck! 04:43:29 great 04:43:46 i think it is important to see support at FADs across the region from the Community Arch team as much as possible 04:43:57 as we build up the base in APAC 04:44:11 true harish 04:44:31 naturally, i gotta be choosy about which ones I go to and I try to leverage the usual Red Hat marketing activities and 04:44:44 get to these places on a shared budget 04:45:00 so that I can make sure that commarch budget is used as much as possible by the community 04:45:23 +1 harish 04:45:29 as per the numbers we use 14% of it yet 04:45:38 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_report_2011-07 04:45:58 i know. 04:46:07 +1 Harish 04:46:15 we still have 6 month left of the FY. 04:46:21 +1 harish 04:46:28 +1 harish 04:46:29 6 months? 04:46:40 yes, bckurera 04:46:49 RH FY is 1 Mar to End Feb 04:47:04 Forgot we are in August :) 04:47:04 Sep 1 is Q3 for RH 04:47:31 ok, i've gotta leave to go vote in the presidential elections. 04:47:39 have a good meeting and i will see you later. 04:47:48 more FADs across the region means more FUDcons as well :) 04:47:59 thanks harish 04:48:10 anyway more ideas on this topic? 04:48:31 Thank you, Harish and we deeply appreciate your time and continued support. ;) 04:48:47 +1 dramsey 04:48:49 indeed dramsey +1 04:48:58 next topic? 04:49:03 yes, next 04:49:06 bckurera: yes please 04:49:14 #topic F16 planning ideas 04:49:28 #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-ambassadors-tasks.html 04:49:52 we have to plan accordingly keeping the schedule in our minds 04:50:00 any ideas pls? 04:51:09 I see start/end dates in that page are not consistency :) 04:51:10 There should be a call for SWAG coming soon, so think what you need. 04:51:28 question, after which point at that table the cds/dvds are done ? 04:51:29 XD 04:51:30 Do we need a system to track them dramsey 04:51:47 bckurera: a system to track would be god 04:51:52 bckurera: s/god/good/ 04:51:55 Provide numbers to Kaio / Gbraad / mether to help support us, bckurera 04:52:00 aye 04:52:07 yup we can track it country wise 04:52:11 KageSenshi, good question 04:52:14 I'd also suggest all ambassadors test the release 04:52:18 via vms 04:52:38 using it actually helps to see what great improvements and features the release has 04:52:40 yup I m sure all FAm are doing that 04:52:44 i think the availability of cds/dvds can largely affect planning :) 04:52:45 I would guess early September No. 4 - 7 04:52:57 @f16release 04:53:14 FranciscoD, sounds like a winning #idea 04:53:20 thanks fedbot 04:53:39 please do FranciscoD 04:53:41 so cool, FranciscoD :) 04:53:48 @f16release 04:53:51 i'll wait for beta before upgrading to f16 :) 04:53:59 FranciscoD, dramsey: I'm waiting for proper migration to SystemD/SystemCtl and Gnome .2 04:54:31 it's fine in F15. aks 04:55:05 so please plan your events and let us know the numbers 04:55:12 media , swags in advance 04:55:12 tuanta: not all the init.d/ scripts are properly/fully migrated to use SystemD/ctl in F15 04:55:34 bckurera, sounds like a #info, #idea, or #action 04:55:54 I heard FAmSCo will discuss on F16 budget next week or may be today :) 04:56:01 dramsey +1 04:56:06 something need to be done ourself, I see 04:56:23 #action Please plan F16 events and forward numbers of media and swags 04:56:29 needinfo, when will media be ready for f16 .. doing f16 release party without f16 freemedia is awkward XD 04:56:41 hahaha 04:56:43 :D 04:56:48 I'm guessing FUDCon India will have a release party too :P 04:56:48 KageSenshi you are right 04:57:03 KageSenshi: true 04:57:09 FranciscoD you can do IT :) 04:57:19 +1 04:57:43 we have some countries representation 04:57:49 so you all can plan locally 04:57:52 bckurera: we will do it :P 04:57:53 and ask support 04:58:01 bckurera: sure 04:58:04 yes we will do ir 04:58:16 I m thinking of creating a wiki page 04:58:21 bckurera, our next FAD meeting is 09 SEP, right? How about a rough guesstimate of numbers for F16 by then? Should help Harish and others get things for us. What do you think everyone? 04:58:26 bckurera: +1 04:58:34 WHoops, 10 SEP 04:58:38 to track request so all can edit and update it 04:58:55 dramsey good idea :) 04:59:05 +1 bckurera on the wiki page, too 04:59:16 then will set a deadline 04:59:50 if not final release, rc release works too :) 04:59:51 #action create a wiki page to track APAC needs (media and swags) 05:00:11 If people have requests by 03 SEP, at our biweekly APAC, then cool. Just think their needs to help FAmSCo. That is it from me. 05:00:35 ok then sep 03 05:00:51 bckurera: ok 05:00:54 hi 05:00:57 dramsey♆ hi 05:01:03 my guesstimate for a release party 30-40 .. guesstimate for the whole release cycle, for me, 100 :) 05:01:04 kaio: hi 05:01:05 #info Rough estimate on F16 media and swags on Sep 03rd, APAC bi weekly 05:01:09 hi kaio 05:01:15 #chair kaio 05:01:15 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush LMartinez aks bckurera dramsey harish kaio mether tuanta 05:01:16 just back from Singaporean/Malaysian food 05:01:45 I ll craete the wiki so that you all can update 05:01:48 Hainan Chicken Rice + Combination Fried Rice Noodle. 05:01:58 kaio, was that food in singapore/malaysia or was that in .au ? 05:02:04 I ll put the link on ML 05:02:06 Hi Kaio 05:02:34 shall we go to open session then :) 05:02:42 kaio any updates? 05:03:07 dramsey tuanta? 05:03:22 kaio, we are going to try and have media / swag needs for F16 by 03 SEP and/or 10 SEP to help FAmSCo's needs. 05:03:32 Nothing else from me. 05:03:45 dramsey 03rd Sep is good I think 05:03:47 I have not much expectation on media and swag. Havent got time to get some new fedorans here 05:03:58 +1 bckurera 05:04:00 I mean for ANZ 05:04:10 action item already set :) 05:04:15 for china they seems to product media themselves 05:04:27 and stickers also 05:04:36 yup even they produced locally good to have number with us 05:04:48 so easy to track way 05:05:04 what you all think? 05:05:05 okay I should let them make a record on that for tracking 05:05:20 have a wiki pg for keeping all APAC production 05:05:29 kaio what about Thaiwan community? 05:05:47 yes kaio I ll create wiki page soon 05:05:51 taiwan community is 2 persons only 05:05:59 they have been converted into fam 05:06:17 I heard they ll waiting to promote F16 as F15 is not good to step out 05:06:27 they went to the first conference earlier this month, but not much people shown interest about fedora 05:06:48 seems an update 05:06:49 anyways they have made some stickers and shared the counter with Gnome TW 05:06:56 shall I add it as an #info 05:07:07 Did the Fedora Stickers (20,000) for all four regions (5,000 per region) get started? 05:07:26 yes they are customizing the F16 for Chinese community 05:07:26 Good news Kaio. 05:07:41 #info TW FAms went to the first conference earlier this month, but not much people shown interest about fedora 05:08:12 "first conference" < what conference? 05:08:17 COSCUP 05:08:30 #undo 05:08:30 Removing item from minutes: 05:08:31 the largest annual conference in TW 05:08:46 oh 05:08:47 cool 05:08:52 #info TW FAms went to the first conference (COSCUP) earlier this month, but not much people shown interest about fedora 05:09:05 ok any ideas or open floor 05:09:10 whats the distro/os demographic there? 05:10:11 cool 05:10:19 shall we move then? 05:10:52 bckurera: ok 05:11:05 #topic Open Floor 05:11:11 any ideas pls 05:11:56 I would like to find out - Did the Fedora Stickers (20,000) for all four regions (5,000 per region) get started? I think that some of the APAC Fedora Ambassadors indicated their interest and provide a number of requested items. 05:12:10 That is all from me. Do you think that should be a #info, #idea, or #action? 05:12:16 dramsey♆ who is in charge for this? 05:12:30 Good question - kaio. 05:13:04 I was at the North American Meeting Fedora meeting and the thought to have 5,000 for their region was discussed and the pricing for 20,000 for all four regions was found out later. 05:13:30 I "believe" that the 20,000 Fedora Stickers quantity was "approved" From there, I have no other information. 05:13:36 dramsey can you dig this and find out? 05:14:10 Good question, I think this is a FAmSCo consideration. 05:14:35 need to talk to harish now 05:14:36 There was discussion of the need for quantity and we asked at our APAC meetings. 05:14:37 kaio is there a FAmSCo meeting today? 05:14:41 yes 05:14:46 +1 Kaio, sounds like a winner. 05:14:54 hi, guys. 05:15:02 Hi rbergeron 05:15:09 rbergeron: hello 05:15:10 rbergeron hello 05:15:13 harish is the main contact from RH fund now 05:15:22 thanks for coming rbergeron :) 05:15:36 oh btw .. i saw the fudcon india funding approval meeting (got a notification in xchat whenever my name is mentioned) .,, 05:15:36 sorry i'm late 05:15:37 [22:10] #agreed to fund ticket 212 for $440 in travel, plus a hotel room 05:15:58 the stickers are purchased btw, we'll be having someone bring them in person to fudcon in india for distribution 05:16:05 probably jsmith 05:16:13 rbergeron: great :) 05:16:29 awesome :D 05:16:33 rbergeron thanks again 05:16:52 excellent 05:17:06 #info the stickers are purchased btw, we'll be having someone bring them in person to fudcon in india for distribution probably jsmith 05:17:31 we have 1.15 hours meeting 05:17:40 with info action lot of ideas :) 05:17:46 what else we have? 05:18:01 Thank you, rbergeron, I appreciate your information update. May you have a great Fedora evening. :) 05:18:19 :D 05:18:33 Thank you all for coming to our meeting. 05:18:44 are we at the finishing 05:18:47 yes 05:18:53 bckurera and tuanta, thank you for keeping this FAD APAC rolling. See you all on either 03 SEP or 10 SEP 05:19:06 Thanks for all who participated 05:19:28 +1 05:19:31 +1 05:19:49 shall we finish then? 05:19:57 yes 05:20:05 thanks again for being there 05:20:11 * KageSenshi wont be in 10th sept meeting, for obvious reason 05:20:32 Next APAC FAD meeting on 10th September and chaied by Tuanta 05:20:42 hope to see you all and thanks for being here 05:20:51 5 05:20:54 4 05:20:56 3 05:20:58 2 05:21:02 1 05:21:06 * KageSenshi waves 05:21:08 we are done :) 05:21:09 05 05:21:13 0 05:21:17 #endmeeting