05:02:21 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
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05:02:25 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:02:32 <tagoh> #topic agenda and roll call
05:02:45 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2011-08-25
05:03:02 <tagoh> okay, shall we have i18n meeting
05:03:05 <tagoh> who else here today?
05:03:10 <dueno> hi
05:03:14 <an|sh> hi
05:04:16 <pravins> hi
05:04:25 <juhp> hi
05:04:31 <paragan> hi
05:05:13 <fujiwarat> hi
05:05:20 <tagoh> okay, let's get started
05:05:26 <tagoh> #topic F16
05:06:25 <tagoh> as you know alpha has been released, upcoming schedule is docsbeat freeze for beta at 9/6
05:07:34 <epico_laptop> hi
05:07:46 <tagoh> we have only ibus related things on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat so far, please update if there are anything else.
05:08:04 <juhp> dueno, thanks for adding text for ibus-gucharmap
05:08:15 <dueno> welcome
05:08:57 <juhp> fujiwarat, anything you could add - I am happy to help to polish - just a bullet point would be great
05:09:03 <pravins> tagoh: i have build Urdu fonts for Fedora yesterday
05:09:06 <juhp> a few
05:09:25 <juhp> a few bullet points, I meant
05:09:50 <tagoh> pravins: any new or important notes to be worth adding it to relnotes?
05:09:51 <pravins> Now we have Nastaleeq script font in Fedora, we should highlight this thing
05:10:00 <juhp> pravins, sure
05:10:05 <fujiwarat> OK, I will update the rel-notes in this week.
05:10:12 <juhp> tagoh: anything for im-chooser?
05:10:16 <tagoh> pravins: aha. please update with it :)
05:10:24 <juhp> can't think of anything else right now
05:10:27 <pravins> tagoh: yes, sure :)
05:10:55 <juhp> fujiwarat, thanks
05:11:26 <tagoh> juhp: integrated UI for XFCE is available in f16 though dunno if it's worth adding it there.
05:13:23 <tagoh> anyway, we still have a few time to discuss this so feel free to add anything as needed
05:13:59 <tagoh> fujiwarat: do you want to share any updates for GnomeInputIntegration feature?
05:14:56 <fujiwarat> I'm updating the patch on upstream bugzilla:
05:15:08 <fujiwarat> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641531
05:15:09 <tagoh> just FYI, our test days schedule has also been slipped. current schedule is, l10n desktop at 8/30, l10/i18n installation at 8/31 and i18n desktop at 9/1. please see test days wiki for more details.
05:15:55 <fujiwarat> Currently the bug was assigned in the blocker for GNOME UI freeze.
05:16:54 <tagoh> aha
05:18:26 <juhp> fujiwarat, nice
05:19:09 <fujiwarat> I think ibus is ready for the testing.
05:19:56 <juhp> fujiwarat, ibus-gnome3 seems pretty slow somehow or is it just me?
05:20:09 <tagoh> fujiwarat: thanks for updating. the discussion is quite long so can't follow up on it quickly though, what tasks remaining do you have to accomplish?
05:20:27 <tagoh> juhp: it's known issue and bug is filed in bz already.
05:21:37 <fujiwarat> Ah, mainly there are the coding style on upstream; e.g. foo-item to fooItem.
05:21:47 <juhp> ah
05:22:48 <tagoh> fujiwarat: okay
05:24:28 <pravins> tagoh: updated.
05:24:36 <tagoh> pravins: thanks!
05:24:49 <tagoh> cool
05:25:03 <fujiwarat> juhp: I think you mean the Control + Space. ibus-daemon always connect to the panel icon to get xkb with $DISPLAY.
05:26:08 <tagoh> okay, anything else you want to share on f16 so far?
05:26:40 <fujiwarat> Probably I think the performance is addressed in f17. I'd think it might be a risk to change the design in this stage.
05:28:53 <tagoh> maybe good to analyze where the bottleneck comes from.
05:30:10 <tagoh> this issue would be better fixing in f16 as much as possible because it's not trivial and quite affects the usability really.
05:31:05 <tagoh> for the worst case, we may need to consider not to install ibus-gnome3 by default.
05:31:40 <juhp> fujiwarat, yes
05:32:15 <juhp> so is it better to make ibus-gnome3 optional?
05:32:21 <juhp> for f16?
05:32:33 <juhp> tagoh: yes
05:32:47 <tagoh> we could try to enable it in beta and obtain some feedbacks if it's acceptable for people or not.
05:32:49 <juhp> hmm
05:32:51 <juhp> sure
05:33:45 <tagoh> okay, anything else?
05:34:12 <fujiwarat> hmm.., i didn't think it's a big problem :(.
05:34:27 <fujiwarat> ok
05:35:12 <tagoh> let's move on
05:35:22 <tagoh> #topic Input Methods
05:35:47 <tagoh> any updates on IM to share?
05:37:17 <pravins> tagoh: i will add new package tamil-typing-booster as well in i18n beat
05:37:34 <tagoh> pravins: yes, please.
05:37:35 <pravins> need to update comps as well for it
05:38:16 <juhp> pravins, I added some placeholder text already...
05:38:34 <tagoh> pravins: will it be installed by default for Tamil?
05:39:09 <tagoh> good to have more words to explain it :)
05:39:09 <pravins> tagoh: i think no it is not tested yet much. so optional will be good
05:39:22 <tagoh> pravins: I see
05:39:55 <pravins> juhp: oops, i missed that
05:40:34 <pravins> juhp: will add couple of line to it
05:40:42 <tagoh> okay, anything else?
05:41:01 <dueno> maybe I'll add something about eekboard 1.0 in the beat, which is now activated through ibus
05:41:19 <tagoh> dueno: nice
05:41:32 <juhp> pravins, but please edit
05:41:36 <juhp> thanks
05:43:18 <epico_laptop> add wqy-microhei-font changes for anaconda?
05:44:58 <tagoh> epico_laptop: maybe yes. we could polish it later if it's too much
05:45:11 <epico_laptop> ok. add it now.
05:45:48 <tagoh> okay, better move on
05:45:56 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:46:11 <tagoh> any updates?
05:47:05 <pravins> tagoh: Lohit telugu upstream release is still pending, thats it
05:47:25 <tagoh> aha
05:48:45 <tagoh> epico_laptop: how about font config tool?
05:50:02 <epico_laptop> re-designed new UI, http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonttools/fonttools-2.glade
05:50:14 <epico_laptop> to resemble ibus-setup UI.
05:50:49 <tagoh> aha
05:52:31 <epico_laptop> simpler UI.
05:53:31 <tagoh> no source code available in public space yet? :)
05:53:41 <epico_laptop> CC jni
05:54:27 <jni> tagoh, yeah, i have not create the public space yet
05:54:45 <tagoh> jni: okay
05:55:11 <jni> tagoh, i will create it soon
05:55:27 <tagoh> jni: cool
05:55:36 <jni> tagoh, thanks
05:56:02 <tagoh> anything else on fonts and rendering to share?
05:56:50 <tagoh> or any concerns and topics we've missed in the agenda?
05:59:47 <tagoh> okay, better finish the meeting here then.
05:59:54 <tagoh> thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:00:01 <juhp> thanks
06:00:02 <tagoh> #endmeeting