20:02:22 <cwickert> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors meeting
20:02:22 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 10 20:02:22 2011 UTC.  The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:02:35 <cwickert> dmaphy: yes, me
20:02:46 <gnokii> me too :D
20:02:52 <nest_os> and me
20:03:41 <dmaphy> nice :)
20:04:08 <cwickert> I just pinged the others, lets wait 3 more minutes
20:05:50 <cwickert> dumdidum
20:05:59 <cwickert> cassmodiah: ping, meeting
20:06:09 * gnokii brings a beer for cwickert, nest_os and dmaphy
20:07:32 <biertie> hi
20:07:38 <biertie> just home :-)
20:07:46 <dmaphy> thanks :)
20:08:00 <cwickert> ok, lets start
20:08:07 <biertie> for coming home? ;-) but ok, lets start indeed
20:08:24 <cwickert> #topic roll call
20:08:32 <cwickert> .fas cwickert
20:08:33 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com>
20:08:35 <nest_os> .fas n3st0c
20:08:38 <zodbot> nest_os: n3st0c 'Nestos Theophrastou' <nestos.th@gmail.com>
20:08:41 <dmaphy> .fas dmaphy
20:08:42 <zodbot> dmaphy: dmaphy 'Dominic Hopf' <dmaphy@gmail.com>
20:08:48 <ib54003> .fas ib54003
20:08:48 <zodbot> ib54003: ib54003 'Benedikt Schäfer' <benedikt@schaefer-flieden.de>
20:09:03 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
20:09:04 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
20:09:25 <biertie> .fas biertie
20:09:27 <zodbot> biertie: biertie 'Bert Desmet' <bert@devnox.be>
20:10:04 <cwickert> thanks everybody for coming
20:10:12 <cwickert> lets make this a quick meeting
20:10:33 <cwickert> the agenda for today can be found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2011-08-10
20:10:50 <cwickert> please follow the meeting protocol, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol
20:11:08 <cwickert> but as we are only a few people today, we don't need to take it so damn serious
20:11:24 <cwickert> #topic Announcements
20:11:28 <cwickert> any annuncements?
20:12:09 <cwickert> ok. none
20:12:25 <cwickert> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:12:35 <cwickert> #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:12:40 <rbergeron> :D
20:13:04 <cwickert> hi liknus
20:13:22 <cwickert> we can already start thinking about media and swag production
20:13:44 <cwickert> although according to the schedule this is to start at August 25th
20:14:10 <cwickert> I think we should first get feedback from kital about the current media distribution
20:14:15 <cwickert> and about the finances
20:14:36 <cwickert> as you might know he has a credit card now, so he is the one to pay everything :)
20:14:55 <cwickert> and as you also might know, Max left Red Hat
20:15:12 <cwickert> so we can and need to start managing our budget ourselves
20:15:16 <rbergeron> woohoo ;)
20:15:32 <biertie> what is the woohoo there? I will miss Max for sure :)
20:15:40 <cwickert> rbergeron: I guess this was on the budget, not on the fact that Max is gone ;)
20:15:51 <rbergeron> I already miss Max. But I'm happy to see you guys being able to manage your own budget. ;)
20:16:12 <cwickert> rbergeron: we'll just ask you to give us more money ;)
20:16:18 <rbergeron> LOL
20:16:22 <cwickert> anyway...
20:16:24 <biertie> cwickert: +1
20:16:55 <cwickert> #action cwickert to ask kital about the distribution of media: how many has already been shipped, how many is reserved etc
20:17:06 <cwickert> IHMO we should do *less* media
20:17:12 <cwickert> because 5000 was really a lot
20:17:13 <rbergeron> If you guys do need help with things, though, I'm happy to help out. I don't know if kital's CC can support the costs of media, so if we think we're going to need to do a PO again, we should get started now so that whoever is taking care of it that is new to dealing with a PO can have time to get it all figured out.
20:17:35 <cwickert> and I am not sure we can distribute so many media
20:17:45 <cwickert> rbergeron: yes, for the big things like media we need a PO
20:18:04 <rbergeron> cwickert: might be helpful to think about what events there are - I know you guys have fosdem in early 2012, does that wind up chewing through a lot of media?
20:18:28 <cwickert> rbergeron: this is something we need to figure out
20:18:40 <cwickert> for fosdem I'd say media are not *that* important
20:19:02 <cwickert> there are a lot of geeks, they want bleeding edge and the media are already too old for them
20:19:14 <cwickert> everybody here in europe has fast internet
20:19:16 <rbergeron> okay. well, let me know if you need help from the PO angle, and I'll make sure that someone in commarch can get it on through in a timely way.
20:19:21 <biertie> still, we give out quite a lot of swag at fosdem I think
20:19:27 <ib54003> cwickert:no
20:19:29 <biertie> didn't we gave 600cd's last year?
20:19:40 * rbergeron lives to serve!
20:19:40 <cwickert> so we really should consider doing less media and spend the money on other swag
20:20:01 <cwickert> biertie: that was because we gave a lot to other ambassadors for their events IIRC
20:20:07 <biertie> but that's seriously a plus one
20:20:17 <cwickert> ib54003: everybody except you :P
20:20:50 <cwickert> I really would like to see more swag and new swag
20:21:02 <cwickert> but it depends on the budget and on our ideas
20:21:25 <cwickert> I got a nice mini-usb key from opensuse on Sunday at the desktop summit
20:21:30 <cwickert> really nice
20:21:46 <cwickert> and we can always upload new versions to a usb key
20:21:49 <gnokii> with KDE or GNOME? :D
20:21:58 <cwickert> gnome 3
20:22:07 <cwickert> but I put Fedora Xfce on it :D
20:22:20 <cwickert> but don't tell OpenSUSE :)
20:22:23 <cwickert> hi t2hot
20:22:26 <gnokii> me didnt they give none :D
20:22:28 <t2hot> .fas t2hot
20:22:28 <zodbot> t2hot: twohot 'Onyeibo Oku' <twohotis@gmail.com>
20:22:42 <t2hot> hi cwickert
20:22:47 <cwickert> ok, more on schedule atm?
20:23:10 <cwickert> we can discuss swag later, lets first finish the agenda
20:23:32 <cwickert> #topic Events
20:23:42 <cwickert> we have froscon coming up next weekend
20:23:56 <cwickert> I mean 20-21st
20:24:06 <cwickert> dmaphy: you still need a hotel room?
20:24:16 <dmaphy> i guess so, yes
20:24:23 <dmaphy> please reserve it for me
20:24:25 <cwickert> dmaphy: ok, consider it done
20:24:33 <cwickert> you can share it with eht16
20:24:47 <dmaphy> ok, cool :)
20:25:29 <cwickert> #info please join us at FrOSCon, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrOSCon_2011
20:26:05 <cwickert> and we have Software Freedom Days coming up, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SoftwareFreedomDay
20:26:13 <cwickert> dmaphy: anything on this?
20:26:27 <cwickert> #action: dmaphy to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SoftwareFreedomDay for 2011
20:26:31 <cwickert> :P
20:26:40 <dmaphy> hum, yes
20:26:57 <dmaphy> there will be one local event in hamburg, germany
20:27:49 <dmaphy> wait..
20:28:14 <dmaphy> there already is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SFD_Hamburg_2011
20:28:18 <cwickert> #undo
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20:28:53 <dmaphy> i'll move the previous one to something like SFD_Hamburg_2010 to be consistent
20:29:06 <dmaphy> is there another listing for Software freedom day events?
20:29:36 <cwickert> I think we should have one landing page
20:29:43 <cwickert> because we don't have a complete listing
20:29:49 <cwickert> dmaphy: can you do this?
20:30:29 <dmaphy> i'd create another page as a landing page then with the name you wrote
20:30:55 <dmaphy> would that be ok for you?
20:31:15 <dmaphy> we could use this as a listing for any sfd event which may happens as well
20:31:27 <cwickert> create a new SFD_Hamburg_2010 page and copy the content over there, then make SoftwareFreedomDay  the landing page
20:31:53 <dmaphy> yep, will do :)
20:32:15 <cwickert> #action dmaphy to make https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SoftwareFreedomDay the central landing page for SFD and move the current content to SFD_Hamburg_2010
20:33:11 <cwickert> ok, more on events?
20:33:35 <cwickert> for reference here is the list https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#EMEA-FY12Q2
20:33:53 <cwickert> #info if you have an event, please add it to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#EMEA-FY12Q2 and create a wiki page
20:34:21 <cwickert> t2hot: you are in Nairobi, right?
20:34:29 <t2hot> Naa
20:34:31 <t2hot> Nigeria
20:34:50 <cwickert> sorry
20:34:57 <cwickert> did the media arrive?
20:35:00 <cwickert> and the shirts?
20:35:15 <t2hot> Sure, thanks a lot
20:35:20 <cwickert> ok, cool
20:35:47 <t2hot> I'll be sending Tosin his bit within the week
20:35:50 <gnokii> t2hot: make a picture and blog about ;)
20:36:28 <cwickert> anything more on events?
20:36:58 * t2hot wonders what gnokii wants him to blog about ... but certainly there's gonna be a blog on an upcoming events soon
20:37:56 <cwickert> t2hot: gnokii wants something like http://www.christoph-wickert.de/blog/2011/03/15/finally/
20:38:27 <cwickert> #topic Action items from previous meetings
20:39:06 * cwickert looks at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-07-13/fedora-meeting.2011-07-13-20.01.html
20:39:25 <cwickert> t2hot, gnokii: what is the status of the "join Fedora" pages rework?
20:39:45 <t2hot> gnokii first
20:39:51 <t2hot> :)
20:40:35 <t2hot> Ok, me then
20:40:43 <gnokii> cwickert: so it looks the ambassadors dont like cute kids, the others want them, t2hot had a nice idea so when he has done his f16 work we can work on this
20:41:08 <t2hot> ah, better
20:41:16 <cwickert> gnokii: I don't think it matters what the ambassadors like
20:41:39 <cwickert> the packagers are to decide on packaging, so the design-team is to decide on design
20:41:54 <gnokii> wow
20:42:00 <cwickert> ?
20:42:31 <gnokii> ok, then we stay with cute kids ans finish it
20:42:37 <cwickert> IHMO each group should do what they know best.
20:43:13 <cwickert> #info rework of the "Join Fedora" pages is in progress, t2hot, gnokii and vinzv will keep us updated
20:43:50 <cwickert> does andbody know the status of "vinzv to tell the design team to no only make flyers for letter but also A4 format"?
20:44:07 <cwickert> I mean, I know he told them, but I am not sure there are A4 flyers yet
20:44:32 <gnokii> cwickert: yes there was a short discussion on it, u keep it in mind and make for the europeans A4
20:44:41 <gnokii> -u + I
20:44:59 <cwickert> #action: gnokii to follow-up on A4 format flyers
20:45:02 <cwickert> thanks gnokii
20:45:33 <cwickert> ok, now for http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-07-27/fedora-meeting.2011-07-27-20.02.html
20:45:40 <cwickert> sesivany to add LinuxALt to the events page in the wiki
20:45:54 <cwickert> I think this has been done
20:45:56 * cwickert looks
20:47:22 <cwickert> it's in the list
20:47:29 <cwickert> however I cannot find a wiki page
20:48:33 <cwickert> #action cwickert to ask sesivany about the LinuxALT wiki page
20:48:42 <cwickert> #topic Open Floor
20:48:49 <biertie> !
20:49:00 <cwickert> biertie: yes please
20:49:19 <biertie> I have an idea to do something in belgium (probably next year) in the summer for fedora
20:49:24 <biertie> not a fudcon, not a fad
20:49:37 <cwickert> but?
20:49:37 <biertie> but more for users of all kind (pro users, and new users)
20:49:51 <gnokii> FUDCamp :D
20:50:04 <biertie> but it's still an idea, so I'm not sure about how everything will be in the end
20:50:10 <biertie> just wanted to let you guys know
20:50:22 <cwickert> ok, thanks
20:50:30 <cwickert> please do it, no matter what :D
20:50:39 <cwickert> biertie: how many media do you have?
20:51:06 <biertie> atm none, I'm not going to any events either (except fudcon)
20:51:14 <biertie> and if I need media, I can ask vincent
20:51:21 <biertie> not sure if his package is already delivered though
20:51:38 <cwickert> #info If you received media shipments for further distribution, please add them to the inventory at https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/wiki/Inventory so people know whom to contact
20:52:01 <cwickert> biertie: didn't you get media from kital?
20:52:36 <cwickert> I am a little unhappy because kital told me that most media are gone already, however nobody really knows *where* they are
20:52:58 <biertie> for Fedora 14 yes, not 15. but I'm ok, I don't live that far from vincent if I need some, or someone else needs media
20:54:06 <cwickert> ok
20:55:18 <cwickert> ok, anything for open floor?
20:55:23 <cwickert> are you all happy?
20:56:07 <biertie> cwickert: I'm always happy :-)
20:56:26 <biertie> please not the smiley
20:56:40 <t2hot> :)
20:56:42 * jsmith-mobile is mostly happy
20:56:42 <biertie> note the
20:57:08 <rbergeron> lol
20:57:40 <cwickert> ok, if nothing comes up I will close the meeting at 21:00 UTC
20:57:52 <dmaphy> searching for a roommate at fudcon, anyone there hasn't one yet, please let me know ;)
20:58:41 <biertie> dmaphy: sure :)
20:59:39 * rbergeron notes the go/no-go is taking over here imminently ;)
21:00:02 <cwickert> #endmeeting