04:16:21 <tuanta> #startmeeting APAC meeting 2011-07-16
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04:16:30 <tuanta> #meetingname APAC
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04:16:36 <tuanta> #topic Ambassador Pinging
04:16:43 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:16:43 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:16:59 <tuanta> #chair bckurera mether
04:16:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: bckurera mether tuanta
04:17:00 <bckurera> .fasinfo bckurera
04:17:00 <zodbot> bckurera: User: bckurera, Name: Buddhika Kurera, email: bckurera@gmail.com, Creation: 2010-05-03, IRC Nick: bckurera, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, GPG key ID: , Status: active
04:17:04 <zodbot> bckurera: Unapproved Groups: magazine marketing web
04:17:08 <zodbot> bckurera: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_fedora cla_done freemedia ambassadors
04:17:46 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-07-16#Agenda
04:17:55 <tuanta> thanks, bckurera
04:18:03 <tuanta> #topic News from FAmSCo
04:18:13 <KageSenshi> \o
04:18:14 <tuanta> any updates, mether?
04:18:17 <bckurera> Is there any news?
04:18:21 <tuanta> hi KageSenshi
04:18:26 <tuanta> great to see you :)
04:18:28 <bckurera> hey welcome KageSenshi, u r not late
04:18:35 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar
04:18:35 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com>
04:18:50 <mether> tuanta, none for now
04:18:59 <tuanta> thanks, mether
04:19:02 <tuanta> should we next?
04:19:13 <bckurera> yes lets move
04:19:15 <tuanta> #topic Report current Status of upcoming events - Fedora Events
04:19:37 <tuanta> bckurera, your turn, please
04:19:40 <bckurera> yup we are heading for the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011
04:19:44 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011
04:19:47 <bckurera> FAD SL
04:19:58 <bckurera> this will be held on August 3rd week
04:20:08 <bckurera> we have a tentative date as 26th Friday
04:20:26 <bckurera> most of the time it will be 4 -5 hour event
04:20:42 <bckurera> the main objective is to engage new contributors from Sri Lanka
04:20:42 <tuanta> do you think how many people will attend?
04:20:56 <tuanta> cool, bckurera
04:21:13 <bckurera> we are planning for 150 +
04:21:18 <bckurera> but not more than 180
04:21:29 <tuanta> great,
04:21:35 <tuanta> almost of them are students?
04:21:56 <bckurera> yes students
04:22:11 <bckurera> we are planning to invite some contributors as well
04:22:20 <bckurera> we need to motivate the students
04:22:43 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
04:23:02 <bckurera> we are thinking of starting a sri lanka ML
04:23:04 <tuanta> I see, your schedule is just in the morning.
04:23:07 <bckurera> still ideas
04:23:22 <bckurera> then we can keep close connections with them
04:23:37 <KageSenshi> \o
04:23:37 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar
04:23:38 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com>
04:23:50 <tuanta> #chair izhar
04:23:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: bckurera izhar mether tuanta
04:24:02 <bckurera> thats it, we are planning now and some tasks are being devided into ppl
04:24:17 <bckurera> I am trying to get all the FAms' help to organize the event
04:24:34 <bckurera> anyway after the new CLA there is only 3 FAms from Sri Lanka
04:24:38 <bckurera> later it was 7
04:25:19 <mether> bckurera, was it a problem with the cla or were they just not active?
04:25:19 <bckurera> We hope that we can fix the event with in the next week
04:25:31 <tuanta> just not active, I think
04:25:37 <bckurera> I dont think there is a problem with CLA
04:26:01 <tuanta> I prefer the new CLA
04:26:02 <bckurera> may be there are busy with their own work, still I m not sure :)
04:26:09 <mether> ok
04:26:12 <bckurera> new CLA is clearer
04:26:16 <KageSenshi> :)
04:26:23 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
04:26:33 <mether> overall we seem to have lost a lot of ambassadors who were not active
04:26:34 <bckurera> How about malaysia FAD KageSenshi?
04:26:47 <KageSenshi> will be happening on 10th september :)
04:26:52 <tuanta> +1 mether
04:27:12 <bckurera> Some FAms are active locally, but they didnt accept the CLA
04:27:18 <bckurera> i donno why?
04:27:25 <KageSenshi> i'm currently building a registration infra for it .. once thats done i'll be spamming around :D
04:27:47 <bckurera> great is there a date propossed for the event?
04:27:49 <KageSenshi> not many ppl have FAS :)
04:28:08 <KageSenshi> Babyface, u mean FAD KL? .. 10th september
04:28:11 <KageSenshi> eh
04:28:14 <KageSenshi> bckurera,
04:28:16 <mether> KageSenshi, registration infrastructure - details?
04:28:24 <bckurera> thanks KageSenshi
04:29:02 <bckurera> we are thinking of FAD SL not as a big event
04:29:05 <KageSenshi> mether, a plone site, for ppl to submit sessions, vote for session, and for registering
04:29:18 <bckurera> but we use this as an exposure to Fedora
04:29:29 <bckurera> later we can go for a huge event, after this one
04:29:38 <KageSenshi> most of the features already there in plone, i just need to create some custom content types for that :)
04:29:47 <mether> KageSenshi, we are planning to use a drupal module for that in FUDCon.  where are going to host it?
04:30:07 <KageSenshi> for mine, we alredy have fedora.foss.org.my
04:30:12 <bckurera> I thikn we all can use the FUDcon event site soon it is on air?
04:30:13 <KageSenshi> its hosted in my own company server
04:30:28 <bckurera> so no need of wasting time to design a brad new one :)
04:30:39 <tuanta> +1 mether. I also prefer Drupal
04:30:57 <KageSenshi> bckurera, its more of familiarity :P .. i'm a plone dev afterall :P
04:31:14 <tuanta> I see, KageSenshi
04:31:25 <tuanta> it's not important
04:31:35 <bckurera> no KaheSenshi, mether have a system, it is already developed. so we can reuse them
04:31:40 <bckurera> am I right mether?
04:32:02 <mether> bckurera, its alright if KageSenshi wants to use what he is developing.  we havent managed to host it yet anyway
04:32:09 <tuanta> mether, can you share that module to us?
04:32:13 <bckurera> anyway its totally upto you KageSenshi just my idea :)
04:32:17 <KageSenshi> :)
04:32:35 <KageSenshi> yep .. plus, choice is good :P
04:32:35 <bckurera> so any more on events?
04:32:40 <mether> tuanta, you got to ask tuxdna for the details.  I dont think he is here now
04:33:19 <tuanta> I also would like to organize a FAD in Hanoi on about August or September
04:33:30 <tuanta> thanks mether. later is ok
04:33:49 <bckurera> we also can promote the FUDcon Pune right
04:33:53 <mether> tuanta, yeah
04:34:02 <tuanta> #action mether ask tuxdna for Drupal module for FAD/FUDcon registration
04:34:06 <bckurera> Then the participant will think in big scale on Fedora
04:34:09 <bckurera> I mean the newies
04:34:37 <mether> tuanta, its more for voting of talks.  not registration although we could use it for registration too I suppose
04:34:51 <tuanta> great, mether
04:35:01 <tuanta> I prefer barcamp-style for FAD
04:35:06 <bckurera> again there are many free solutions like
04:35:11 <bckurera> virtual conference
04:35:18 <bckurera> they have all the facilities
04:35:23 <KageSenshi> google hangout ? :P
04:35:50 <tuanta> I trust only freedom solutions, not just free-beer :)
04:35:58 <KageSenshi> haha
04:36:09 <bckurera> ok then shall we move FAms
04:37:33 <tuanta> so, should we move on now?
04:37:46 <bckurera> +1
04:37:52 <tuanta> #topic APAC plans
04:38:15 <tuanta> there are some sub topics here
04:38:25 <bckurera> yes shall we discuss them generally
04:38:35 <bckurera> rather going into one by one
04:38:41 <tuanta> I will start the last first :)
04:38:56 <bckurera> floor is your tuanta
04:38:58 <tuanta> I have received XO battery :)
04:39:26 <bckurera> ok then problem is over right :)
04:39:34 <bckurera> it is nice to hear anyway
04:39:55 <tuanta> it's really cool. I can bring it around the room :)
04:40:06 <bckurera> ok then is there any sub topic to be discussed further
04:40:23 <bckurera> if no we can keep moving
04:40:35 <tuanta> have you heard anything about reimbursement for Fedora dinners?
04:40:56 <bckurera> I saw some in ML
04:41:02 <tuanta> I have opened ticket for a few weeks then wait, wait
04:41:06 <bckurera> but not that remember
04:41:11 <tuanta> no response
04:41:20 <bckurera> I have to finish another 2 events
04:41:24 <bckurera> release parties :)
04:41:42 <bckurera> i think it gets some time to resolve
04:41:53 <bckurera> did you share the reports tuanta?
04:42:39 <tuanta> sure
04:42:44 <bckurera> seems we have no anyother thing to discuss
04:42:47 <bckurera> can we move then?
04:42:54 <KageSenshi> +1
04:43:07 <bckurera> #topic Fedora Thank You Letter
04:43:17 <tuanta> #link http://vn.fedoracommunity.org/2011/06/08/fedora-15-release-party-series-in-vietnam-first-in-hanoi/
04:43:25 <bckurera> I didnt get any letter
04:43:30 <bckurera> did anyone get?
04:43:40 <KageSenshi> what letter?
04:43:48 <bckurera> tuanta hanoi is the capital?
04:44:14 <bckurera> I think the letter is aout the stickers
04:44:18 <tuanta> I don't mind this :)
04:44:24 <bckurera> saying thanks for the contribution
04:44:30 <tuanta> yes, bckurera
04:44:44 <tuanta> Hanoi is capital, in the northern
04:44:47 <bckurera> I remember Dramsey asked to send him postal addresses
04:44:48 <tuanta> Hue is in the middle
04:44:55 <bckurera> so that he will inform this to the relevant ppl
04:44:58 <tuanta> then HCMC is in th southern of Vietnam
04:45:17 <bckurera> and they will send out a letterm saying thanks for your contribution :)
04:45:26 <bckurera> So no one got the letter yet :)
04:45:30 <bckurera> what about mether?
04:45:57 <bckurera> you are covering the whole country tuanta :)
04:46:12 <tuanta> yes, that's my main idea.
04:46:20 <bckurera> great i love it
04:46:24 <bckurera> ok next topic?
04:46:28 <mether> bckurera, there has been a release event in blr but none in pune.  I haven't had the time to organize one and busy with other events
04:46:51 <bckurera> I think FUDcon will server enough for Pune :)
04:47:48 <bckurera> #info Nobody get the Fedora Thank you letter.
04:47:53 <bckurera> ok will move then
04:47:59 <KageSenshi> XD
04:48:02 <bckurera> hello FranciscoD welcome
04:48:27 <bckurera> #topic Red Hat Exams for Ambassadors
04:48:37 <bckurera> Dramsey's topic we can skip this
04:48:41 <FranciscoD> good morning bckurera
04:48:51 <bckurera> #chair FranciscoD
04:48:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bckurera izhar mether tuanta
04:49:03 <bckurera> hello good morning you are not too much late :)
04:49:14 <tuanta> hi FranciscoD
04:49:16 <FranciscoD> I sure hope so
04:49:18 <bckurera> shall we go to the next topic
04:49:18 <FranciscoD> hello tuanta
04:49:24 <FranciscoD> yes please proceed
04:49:35 <bckurera> #topic Fedora APAC Magazine
04:49:40 <bckurera> my topic
04:49:54 <bckurera> I have forwarded this request to the board, FAmSCO
04:50:01 <bckurera> still i m waiting for an answer
04:50:10 <bckurera> anyway We need to select one name.
04:50:20 <bckurera> That should be done asap
04:50:39 <tuanta> it should be "Fedora APAC Magazine"
04:50:49 <tuanta> that's the best name
04:50:53 <tuanta> I think so
04:50:56 <bckurera> What you all think
04:51:01 <bckurera> Voice of APAC :)
04:51:23 <FranciscoD> what are the rules here?
04:51:27 <FranciscoD> can we use "Fedora"?
04:51:30 <FranciscoD> etc ?
04:51:42 <bckurera> LATMA has their own and its LATMA Magazine
04:51:47 <bckurera> yup we can use Fedora
04:52:01 <bckurera> that is why I asked the permission from the board
04:52:13 <KageSenshi> anybody have a dictionary txt file? .. egrep -i "a.*p.*a.*c" from it :P
04:52:14 <bckurera> This is all about Fedora and its activities with in APAC
04:52:17 <bckurera> thats all
04:52:26 <FranciscoD> yeah, I remember reading all of this on the ML iirc
04:52:42 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: lol
04:52:53 <bckurera> personally I think Tutorial Fedora is not matching :)
04:53:02 <bckurera> so we have two names to select
04:53:31 <bckurera> What I was thinking is to have a discussion on ML and select one
04:53:45 <bckurera> then we can get others ideas and select the best
04:53:47 <KageSenshi> yep ml is good
04:53:49 <tuanta> a range voting should be better
04:54:05 <bckurera> tuanta range votig seems impossible
04:54:11 <tuanta> why?
04:54:17 <bckurera> I asked it from the FAmSCo but no reply
04:54:32 <bckurera> you guys know a place where I can get the help
04:54:50 <KageSenshi> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/apace
04:54:51 <KageSenshi> XD
04:55:14 <tuanta> mether, of course :)
04:55:14 <bckurera> ohh i forgot I should have asked it from Infra team
04:56:01 <bckurera> #action Contact Infra team about the rang voting arangement for APAC magazine, bckurera
04:56:06 <bckurera> ok then will see
04:56:14 <bckurera> any other ideas or next topic?
04:56:48 <bckurera> #topic FUDcon APAC Committee
04:57:10 <bckurera> Hope this topic is no longer needed as we are heading to FUDcon Pune
04:57:16 <FranciscoD> hehe
04:57:18 <bckurera> They are doing good
04:57:38 <bckurera> next topic??
04:57:50 <KageSenshi> next :)
04:57:52 <bckurera> #topic Online event for Fedora 15 in China. Need help for Media Distribution and Fedora swag
04:58:11 <bckurera> who own this topic?
04:58:12 <tuanta> KageSenshi, your turn, please
04:58:20 <bckurera> tuanta?
04:58:23 <tuanta> any more updates?
04:58:25 <KageSenshi> tuanta, err huh ?
04:59:11 <bckurera> if not we can keep moving :) its already 0500 UTC :)
04:59:47 <bckurera> next topic??
05:00:17 <KageSenshi> next :)
05:00:34 <bckurera> #topic LCA 2012
05:00:44 <bckurera> we miss asmartgoat I think
05:00:51 <tuanta> yes
05:01:03 <tuanta> we should move
05:01:09 <bckurera> nice
05:01:15 <tuanta> #topic APAC special meeting - Wednesday
05:01:27 <bckurera> pls move
05:01:33 <tuanta> do you think it's worth to organize?
05:01:50 <tuanta> I see there are not many people attend
05:02:04 <bckurera> yup I see it is worth
05:02:12 <bckurera> but having two meeting is a headache
05:02:17 <tuanta> we should have a doodle vote on the mailing list to check the right time
05:02:28 <bckurera> that is why I asked to have it once a month
05:02:36 <bckurera> so we can discuss share our experience
05:02:36 <KageSenshi> yep .. 2 meetings is confusing .. plus, the wednesday meeting imo, is a bit too frequent
05:02:41 <tuanta> maybe, one on Saturday is enough
05:02:51 <tuanta> +1 KageSenshi
05:02:57 <bckurera> I like saturday one
05:03:09 <FranciscoD> +1
05:03:11 <bckurera> But we can have 1 meeting per month about FAD and Other events
05:03:15 <tuanta> #idea APAC special meeting on Wednesday should be removed
05:03:39 <tuanta> that should be a good idea
05:03:44 <bckurera> #idea anyway it is better to have a meeting on APAC event once a month basis
05:03:45 <tuanta> pelase mark it, bckurera
05:03:56 <bckurera> sure will do :)
05:04:05 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
05:04:15 <FranciscoD> we can always call more meetings if required :)
05:04:16 <bckurera> tuanta moce then?
05:04:44 <bckurera> move*
05:05:10 <bckurera> #topic Open Floor
05:05:11 <tuanta> ok
05:06:03 <bckurera> #info FUDcon planning meeting will be held on Fridays, 0100 UTC on #FUDcon-planing irc, freenode
05:06:06 * KageSenshi went to teach python to a number of school teachers 2 weeks ago .. will be doing it again on 30th july .. XD
05:06:20 <FranciscoD> awesome :D
05:06:25 <bckurera> interested FAm can join
05:06:26 <tuanta> +1 KageSenshi
05:06:38 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: did you use any material? Slides etc, or was it hands on?
05:06:39 <bckurera> we had a nice and the first meeting yesterday and discussed lot of things
05:06:51 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, materials are mainly free stuff online
05:06:57 <FranciscoD> nice :)
05:07:05 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, the workshop is fully hands-on :)
05:07:12 <bckurera> KageSenshi I need your help, i m trying to teach Phyton too
05:07:12 <FranciscoD> mether suchakra and I are to discuss the booklet in 5-10 minutes
05:07:23 <bckurera> where?
05:07:28 <FranciscoD> (after this meeting actually)
05:07:36 <FranciscoD> bckurera: in here, need meetbot :P
05:07:38 <KageSenshi> start by simple print , input, then escalate slowly to cover loops, conditionals
05:07:43 <bckurera> I have another thing to discuss
05:07:49 <tuanta> KageSenshi, where should we start with python programming?
05:07:53 <bckurera> mether this is about the FUDcon
05:07:55 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: byte of py style?
05:07:57 <tuanta> I would like to train our programmers
05:08:04 <KageSenshi> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers
05:08:20 <bckurera> as its having APAC and the only FUDcon we are having we should allow APAC FAm to experience it
05:08:24 <bckurera> am I right?
05:08:24 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, frankly speaking, i'm mainly winging it .. went with the flow
05:08:26 <KageSenshi> XD
05:08:27 <tuanta> thanks, KageSenshi
05:08:38 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: lol, hope it works nicely for you
05:08:44 <bckurera> therefore it is good if we can allocate more funds on APAC FAm
05:08:44 <FranciscoD> bckurera: yes
05:08:45 <KageSenshi> yeah works quite nicely :)
05:08:58 <FranciscoD> bckurera: so more and more APAC FAms should take up talks/sessions
05:08:58 <KageSenshi> at the end of the day, they got a simple calculator app
05:08:59 <KageSenshi> :D
05:16:45 <tuanta> zodbot is back :)
05:16:46 <bckurera> ok then we will finish this
05:16:46 <FranciscoD> bckurera: would you do this please? attach the 5 minutes zodbot ran out to the ticket?
05:17:01 <bckurera> will fisnish this first
05:17:10 <FranciscoD> bckurera: please do :)
05:17:15 <tuanta> ok, that's all today?
05:17:20 <bckurera> yes I have copy
05:17:26 <bckurera> thanks again for your time
05:17:29 <bckurera> 3
05:17:31 <bckurera> 2
05:17:32 <bckurera> 1
05:17:35 <bckurera> 0.5
05:17:35 <tuanta> bckurera, please help us to updae the wiki, send to mailing list, etc.
05:17:49 <bckurera> ok sure i ll update them
05:17:54 <bckurera> #endmeeting