20:03:34 <cwickert> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors meeting 20:03:34 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 15 20:03:34 2011 UTC. The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:03:34 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:03:52 <cwickert> welcome everybody to this EMEA ambassadors meeting 20:04:02 <cwickert> lets start with the cole call 20:04:05 <cwickert> #topic roll call 20:04:11 <cwickert> .fas cwickert 20:04:14 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com> 20:04:39 <sesivany> .fas eischmann 20:04:41 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com> 20:04:42 <cwickert> Please say your name so we know you are there and who you are 20:04:49 <jsmith> .fas jsmith 20:04:50 <zodbot> jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' <jsmith.fedora@gmail.com> - mikejsmith11 'Mike J. Smith ' <mikejsmith11@gmail.com> 20:04:54 <cwickert> :) 20:04:57 * jsmith is lurking, as usual 20:05:01 <ardian> .fas ardian 20:05:01 <zodbot> ardian: ardian 'Ardian Haxha' <ardian.haxha@gmail.com> - gunma 'Mardian Gunawan' <gunawanmardian@gmail.com> - guardian 'Stephan Kürpick' <guard@gmx.net> - rmsc 'Renato Caldas' <seventhguardian@gmail.com> - dansguardian 'Dansguardian' <dansguardian@linuxmail.org> 20:05:07 <cwickert> hahaha 20:05:09 <Southern_Gentlem> .fas jbwillia 20:05:10 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@yahoo.com> 20:05:15 <gentt> .fas gentt 20:05:18 <zodbot> gentt: gent 'Gent Thaçi' <gentthaqi@gmail.com> 20:05:26 <gentt> hello everyone 20:05:52 <fedora_richie> richievj11<richie11@fedoraproject.org> 20:05:58 <fedora_richie> hello everyone 20:06:15 <cwickert> ok, nice to see so many people around 20:06:23 <arthurbuliva> .fas arthurbuliva Arthur Buliva 20:06:24 <zodbot> arthurbuliva: 'arthurbuliva Arthur Buliva' Not Found! 20:06:29 <cwickert> and nice to see new ambassadors like fedora_richie 20:06:38 <fedora_richie> thanks :) 20:06:51 <cwickert> ok, lets get started 20:07:11 <cwickert> as usuall, please follow the meeting protocol 20:07:16 <cwickert> you can read it at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol 20:07:37 <cwickert> basically it is just to make sure that we don't talk at the same time and things get too chaotic 20:08:04 <cwickert> the agenda for todays meeting is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2011-06-15 20:08:22 <cwickert> #topic Announcements 20:08:31 <cwickert> ok, any announcements anybody? 20:08:39 <cwickert> I have one :) 20:08:51 <cwickert> We will have a FAD at FrOSCon 20:09:02 <cwickert> for those who don't know what a FAD is 20:09:14 <cwickert> it is the little brother/sister of a FUDCon 20:09:29 <cwickert> FAD means Fedora Activity Day 20:09:39 <cwickert> one day of talks and workshops 20:09:45 <cwickert> hosted at FrOSCon 20:09:56 <cwickert> I will get back to that when we talk about events 20:10:00 <cwickert> anything else? 20:10:51 <cwickert> ok. nothing 20:11:17 <cwickert> #topic Ambassadors Schedule 20:11:34 <cwickert> ypi can find the ambassadors schedule at http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-ambassadors-tasks.html 20:11:42 <cwickert> lets see where we are 20:12:04 <cwickert> basically there is nothing to do, so we can be lazy :) 20:12:21 <cwickert> #topic Events 20:12:48 <cwickert> events are listed at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#EMEA-FY12Q1 20:13:39 <cwickert> oh, we are already at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY12_Q2_.28June_2011_-_August_2011.29_3 20:13:45 <giallu> cwickert, I run a release party last Saturday, I'm writing the report now 20:14:11 <cwickert> thanks giallu 20:14:26 <cwickert> does anybody know something about Barcamp Benin? 20:14:34 <cwickert> I never heard of that one before 20:14:48 <cwickert> and I don't recall an event report 20:15:22 <cwickert> sesivany: you have an event in July. everything settled? 20:15:37 <sesivany> pretty much 20:15:56 <arthurbuliva> ! 20:16:02 <sesivany> it will be mainly an academic event, for university teachers and students 20:16:08 <cwickert> sesivany: did you already file a ticket for media? 20:16:15 <cwickert> if not. please do asap 20:16:26 <sesivany> we'll have a talk on Fedora and promote it. 20:16:36 <sesivany> yes, I did. 20:16:48 <cwickert> ok 20:16:49 <sesivany> a few weeks ago 20:16:57 <cwickert> I will make sure you get them 20:17:03 <sesivany> thanks 20:17:07 <cwickert> arthurbuliva first, then some words about media 20:17:11 <cwickert> arthurbuliva: your turn 20:17:31 <arthurbuliva> thanks 20:17:52 <arthurbuliva> Am in the process of organizing FAD in Nairobi 20:18:35 <gentt> arthurbuliva: you should get in touch with User:Frankiemangoa 20:18:40 <gentt> He is plannign the same 20:18:41 <arthurbuliva> A fellow ambassador and I are involved. A few issues to iron out in regard to numbers (of media to request, attendees to expect etc) 20:18:52 <arthurbuliva> Yes, we are planning it together 20:19:19 <arthurbuliva> Thats the event update I wanted to bring to light 20:19:20 <arthurbuliva> eof 20:19:24 <cwickert> thanks 20:19:58 <cwickert> I'd like to remind people of FrOSCon 20:20:00 <cwickert> see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrOSCon_2011 20:20:15 <cwickert> we got our booth and the devroom confirmed 20:20:25 <cwickert> devroom only Sunday 20:20:34 <cwickert> this is when I want to do the FAD 20:20:49 <cwickert> I just sent out a mail about this to ambassadors listr 20:21:09 <cwickert> ok, anything more on events or should we continue with release events? 20:21:16 <k0Do> cwickert: can you say something about the FAD, any ideas already what will be done there? 20:21:55 <cwickert> I want something that is not only interesting for Fedora contributors but also vor visitors of FrOSCon 20:22:15 <cwickert> this means we will have talks and workshops 20:22:28 <cwickert> and later the day we also have some more internal things 20:22:45 <cwickert> like speaking about swag and ambassadors buisness 20:23:25 <cwickert> talks will cover topics like "RPM packaging", "Home server with Fedora", "Create you own Fedora remix" and so on 20:23:31 <dmaphy> .fas dmaphy 20:23:34 <zodbot> dmaphy: dmaphy 'Dominic Hopf' <dmaphy@gmail.com> 20:23:38 <k0Do> so everybody is welcome to do a little talk? 20:23:50 <dmaphy> sorry, was on phone 20:23:54 <cwickert> so things that are somehow related to Fedora but not necessarily only for Fedorians 20:24:14 <cwickert> k0Do: sure, you can add it to the wiki later and then we will decide 20:24:19 <cwickert> what do you have in mind? 20:24:25 <Southern_Gentlem> introduction to cli tools might go over well 20:24:37 <t2hot> .fas t2hot 20:24:38 <zodbot> t2hot: twohot 'Onyeibo Oku' <twohotis@gmail.com> 20:24:43 <k0Do> no idea till now, but I can think about something 20:24:48 <t2hot> sorry I'm late 20:25:35 <cwickert> k0Do: ok, there are also a lot of developers at FrOSCon, so you can do something really hacky ;) 20:25:42 <cwickert> no problem t2hot 20:25:55 <cwickert> anything more on FrOSCpon or on events? 20:26:19 <gnokii> cwickert: u can do that but u should count on visitors from outside then 20:27:08 <cwickert> gnokii: well, I do not count on Fedora contributors because otherwise we only have 10 people in the room 20:27:33 <cwickert> I nearly forgot that gnokii will be at FrOSCon, too and will give two workshops about inkscape 20:27:49 <cwickert> but we are not allowed to join because it is "inkscape for kids" 20:27:53 <gnokii> yeah the rest I will do booth stuff ;) 20:28:03 <cwickert> ok then, lets move on 20:28:18 <cwickert> #topic F15 release events 20:28:36 <cwickert> you can find the list of release events planned for EMEA at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_release_events#EMEA 20:29:04 <cwickert> ardian, gentt: I am afraid we will not have media in time for your event next week 20:29:24 <cwickert> I can try to get you some lightscribed ones 20:29:32 <cwickert> but no pressed media yet, sorry 20:29:44 <ardian> cwickert: umm 20:29:59 <gentt> :( 20:30:08 <cwickert> I am sorry, I cannot change it 20:30:14 <cwickert> shipping will take to long 20:30:25 <cwickert> at least in Cosovo 20:30:31 <gentt> * Kosovo 20:30:45 <cwickert> sorry 20:30:57 <cwickert> isn't "Cosovo" the english name? 20:31:14 <ardian> cwickert: ok 20:31:18 <cwickert> no, it's not 20:31:24 <gentt> cwickert: no 20:31:38 <gnokii> no its also Kosovo 20:31:40 <gentt> Kosova is how we call it, the international name is "Kosovo" 20:31:40 <cwickert> ardian, gentt: I will try my best. Anything more you need? did you receive budget? 20:31:57 <ardian> not yet nothing 20:32:02 <gentt> cwickert: no, should we postphone our event? 20:32:09 <cwickert> your decision 20:32:16 <cwickert> I can wire you some money 20:32:22 <gentt> your opinion? 20:32:31 <cwickert> did you already advertise it a lot? 20:32:58 <gentt> cwickert: hmm 20:33:03 <ardian> Yea since 1 month or more 20:33:10 <gentt> around 2 20:33:15 <cwickert> then you should not delay it 20:33:20 <gentt> facebook event, a couple tweets 20:33:33 <cwickert> I will wire you some money and send media tomorrow 20:33:42 <cwickert> but the media are only lightscribed then 20:33:54 <cwickert> this is all I can do 20:33:55 <ardian> okay 20:34:10 <ardian> We never got media 20:34:15 <cwickert> ok then, lets figure out the details with the money after the meeting 20:34:23 <gentt> cwickert: one more thing 20:34:36 <cwickert> ardian: in the past you did not request them correctly ;) 20:34:42 <cwickert> look into the old ticket 20:34:48 <cwickert> gentt: go ahead 20:34:57 <gentt> cwickert: don't send the whatever however media with normal shipping, with I mean non-private companies because it takes more than 1 week to arrive 20:35:10 <cwickert> but what? 20:35:12 <gentt> because of customs through Serbia, as our realtion is bad 20:35:18 <gentt> cwickert: possibly ups?! 20:35:19 <cwickert> fair point 20:35:30 <gentt> *relation 20:35:31 <cwickert> very expensice 20:35:40 <cwickert> *expensive* 20:36:16 <gentt> cwickert: ok we can try, send it as you planned 20:36:22 <cwickert> anyway, the three of us can figure this out after the meeting, ok? 20:36:24 <gentt> we can use the media later if they don't arrive 20:36:28 <gentt> cwickert: sure 20:36:30 <cwickert> ok 20:36:38 <cwickert> anything more on release events? 20:36:53 <cwickert> #topic F15 Media production 20:37:02 <cwickert> ok, we had some technical problems 20:37:24 <cwickert> and we decided that we need something that is not dual layer 20:37:28 <cwickert> just to be save 20:37:44 * t2hot ....huh? 20:37:58 <cwickert> this is the first time we do it and we still need something in case it doesn't work 20:38:17 <cwickert> t2hot: it turned out that there were problems with the installation dvd 20:38:18 <t2hot> ? 20:38:27 <cwickert> t2hot: go ahead 20:39:01 <t2hot> well seems you're already into the answers ... should have been more patient. I was wondering how that affects costs 20:39:12 <t2hot> eof 20:39:23 <cwickert> we will have 500 media instead of 6000 20:39:26 <cwickert> erm 20:39:28 <cwickert> :) 20:39:29 <cwickert> 5000 20:39:34 <cwickert> sorry 20:39:59 <t2hot> the distribution? 20:40:28 <cwickert> 3000 Multi Desktop Spin, 1000 Installation DVD 64 and 1000 Installation DVD 32 bit 20:40:57 <cwickert> so the install dvds are meant as backup in case the livemedia don't work for people 20:41:12 * t2hot ... hmmm 20:41:27 <cwickert> t2hot: ? 20:41:53 <t2hot> no problem cwickert ... might have to adjust my ticket 20:42:01 <cwickert> ok 20:42:08 <cwickert> media should be ready next week and then shipping begins 20:42:14 <cwickert> kital will do the shipping for me 20:42:27 <cwickert> because I am moving twice within the next 3 months 20:42:37 <cwickert> and he also has a credit card now 20:43:03 * t2hot ...ah, finally 20:43:12 <cwickert> yes, finally 20:43:50 <cwickert> #info please file more tickets for primary media distribution in your community. we don't have enough people who volunteer 20:44:17 <cwickert> #info if you have old F14 media, please update the inventory at https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/wiki/Inventory 20:44:37 <cwickert> #info kital now has a credit card and can reimburse people 20:44:49 <cwickert> ok, anything I forgot? 20:45:14 <cwickert> #info media shipping will start next week. sorry for the delay, but there were some problems 20:45:40 <cwickert> ok, lets look at the action items from previous meetings 20:45:47 <cwickert> #topic Action items from previous meetings 20:46:21 <cwickert> t2hot: what was the latest version of the release party poster? 20:46:43 <cwickert> DONE - cwickert to write a mail about FrOSCon to the ambassadors list 20:46:49 <cwickert> just happened before this meeting 20:47:03 <cwickert> NOT DONE - cwickert to bring the idea of common event pages up on the wiki 20:47:03 * t2hot looks ... searching my mails 20:47:09 <cwickert> #action cwickert to bring the idea of common event pages up on the wiki 20:48:13 <t2hot> ! 20:48:39 <cwickert> t2hot: speak 20:48:53 <t2hot> about the release party poster 20:48:58 <t2hot> http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/Release_15_version_2a.png 20:49:15 <t2hot> http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/Release_15_version_2a-300dpi.png 20:49:24 <cwickert> #info latest version of the F15 release party poster is at http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/Release_15_version_2a.png and http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/Release_15_version_2a-300dpi.png 20:49:32 <t2hot> http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/Release_15_version_2a.svg 20:49:54 <cwickert> #info svg available at http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/Release_15_version_2a.svg 20:49:58 <t2hot> well the last one is for design-team guys ... who want to do further tweaking 20:50:11 <cwickert> ok, thanks a lot 20:50:23 <t2hot> but that's essentially the position for now AFAIK 20:50:24 <cwickert> so these were all action items 20:50:41 <cwickert> #topic Open Floor 20:50:55 <cwickert> ok, anything you want to talk about but we didn't yet cover? 20:52:17 * cwickert will close the meeting in 5 minutes if there are no questions 20:52:21 <fedora_richie> I wrote to Linux foundation, Oreilly and other Foss event organisers, appreciating their work and requesting them to notify and help me with a time slot for fedora 20:52:37 <fedora_richie> if they have any events nearby, they all responded positively 20:54:05 <fedora_richie> I am looking forward for some help in writing "beats" I could not connect all the pieces of information, I am looking for somone to walk me through it. I wish i could work hard and deliver the next "beat" on time 20:54:29 <cwickert> fedora_richie: great 20:54:47 <gnokii> cwickert: depending when my workshops are scheduled I offer u a talk "free ur slides" its inkscape and u can join ;) 20:54:59 <cwickert> fedora_richie: if you have an event, please let us know by addint it to the wiki 20:55:29 <fedora_richie> Wanted to ask for views on having all our Cast "videos of demo" on our servers somewhere, ready to do a pod cast 20:55:41 <cwickert> gnokii: you can add it to the wiki once I have made the table 20:56:01 <gnokii> ok, I have the wiki page opened the whole time 20:56:15 <cwickert> gnokii: one at a time please, meeting protocoll 20:56:39 <cwickert> fedora_richie: I am sorry, I cannot help you with beats because I am not in the docs team 20:56:58 <cwickert> does anybody know somebody from the docs team to help fedora_richie? 20:57:11 <fedora_richie> Thanks, I will still try my best 20:57:26 <fedora_richie> Ducking down, thats from me, all 20:57:26 * t2hot wonders what 'beats' are? 20:57:38 <cwickert> fedora_richie: If I find somebody I will guide to you 20:57:42 <fedora_richie> thanks 20:57:44 <fedora_richie> thanks 20:57:58 <cwickert> t2hot: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats 20:58:11 <cwickert> gnokii: now it's your turn 20:58:34 <cwickert> gnokii: yes I will add the table right after this meeting, ok? 20:58:44 <cwickert> don't be so impatient ;) 20:59:03 <gnokii> sorry 20:59:18 <cwickert> no problem 20:59:20 <cwickert> ok, that's all 20:59:31 * cwickert will close the meeting in 5 minutes.... 21:00:23 <jsmith> ! 21:01:12 <cwickert> jsmith: go ahead 21:02:33 <jsmith> One thing I'd like the EMEA Ambassadors to think about is the timing of FUDCon EMEA 21:02:48 <jsmith> I've heard from a couple of people that they'd like to move FUDCon EMEA to another part of the year 21:03:10 <jsmith> So for 2012, please let me know if you'd like me to shuffle around the various FUDCons 21:03:23 <cwickert> hold on 21:03:43 <cwickert> peope would like to move the fudcon to what time? 21:04:41 <cwickert> #info currently FUDCon Milan is scheduled for September 30th - October 2nd 21:04:55 <cwickert> #info please let us know if this date works for you 21:05:00 * t2hot doesn't have much to say on this topic 21:05:31 <cwickert> jsmith: you want to shuffle what exactly? 21:05:39 <cwickert> *all* fudcons? 21:05:47 <jsmith> Well, the plan is to have one FUDCon per quarter 21:06:03 <jsmith> That's obviously not happening this year (three FUDCons in four months) 21:06:26 <jsmith> For next year, if you'd rather have FUDCon EMEA in a different quarter, we might be able to swap something 21:06:42 <jsmith> Otherwise, we'll leave FUDCon EMEA in the September/October time frame 21:06:48 <jsmith> Just something to think about 21:06:59 <cwickert> what quarter is missing? 21:07:14 <jsmith> Right now, we have FUDCon NA in Winter (December/January) 21:07:14 <cwickert> or what quarter has two fudcons? 21:07:24 <jsmith> FUDCon LATAM was in May 21:07:33 <jsmith> FUDCon EMEA is September/October 21:07:41 <jsmith> And FUDCon APAC is November/December 21:08:02 <cwickert> this means that FUDCon EMEA should have been earlier? 21:08:23 <jsmith> No, I'm not saying that 21:08:26 <cwickert> I guess this is something that needs to be coordinated on a higher level 21:08:38 <jsmith> If anything, FUDCon APAC should have been earlier, but we didn't have confirmation on the budget 21:09:05 <jsmith> I'm just looking for feedback -- if ambassadors are comfortable with FUDCon EMEA in September/October, we'll leave it there 21:09:08 <cwickert> I thin for this year it's too late to change anything 21:09:44 <cwickert> jsmith: can you bring this up on the releavant mailing lists? 21:10:00 <cwickert> I mean, there is a lot of groups to be asked 21:10:14 <cwickert> and a lot of people 21:10:28 <cwickert> of people like the current dates, that's fine IMHO 21:10:43 <jsmith> I agree... 21:10:45 <cwickert> I mean, there is not much use in making a FUDCOn when all people are busy 21:10:54 <jsmith> This would be for 2012, not changing anything for 2011 21:11:10 * jsmith has nothing further for the meeting 21:11:11 <cwickert> ok, please ask for feedback on the mailing lists 21:11:16 <cwickert> ok jsmith? 21:11:26 <jsmith> I will 21:11:35 <cwickert> personally speaking: I will come to FUDCon whereever and whenever it is :) 21:11:59 <cwickert> #action jsmith to ask for feedback about the preferred timed for FUDCons 21:12:07 <cwickert> ok folks, I think this is all 21:12:27 * cwickert waits 3 more minutes 21:12:56 <cwickert> gnokii: the wiki is broken atm 21:13:30 <gnokii> guru mediation :D 21:13:48 <nirik> sorry, planned outage... 21:13:56 <nirik> should be back shortly 21:14:15 <cwickert> nirik: thanks for letting us know 21:14:23 <cwickert> #endmeeting